Be aware of stalkers/info stealers

I really don’t know what this hype is all about. Iv’e not really followed the other threads where I saw you’ve voiced (stated) your concerns entirely, but I couldn’t see anything amiss. I did not note one instance of one asking private info of another. Maybe you could point it out.

ZK, some posters ask questions (maybe a sidetrack of something that was mentioned, or maybe to “understand the question better”) and a little here, a little there, and info gets out.

Ex: “Poster” says they’re making a Simcha and are looking for information about a certain hall. Someone else answers and says they had a certain problem with a hall, and to be aware. A third person than asks for more details of the problem. While its not so private, it may be enough information to be figured out. Sometimes it’s harmless, other times c’v…

Another example: Someone mentions having a hard time with a relative/co-worker etc and they ask how to handle it. To “understand the question,” someone will ask for more examples.

Its always good to be aware. Jothar, congrats on your starting a CR shomrim.

Mods, can this thread get “sticky”ed?

*kapusta*

Jothar must not come frmo CH. Otherwise he would not have used Shmira and Shomrim in the same paragraph.

shkoyach Jothar for this thread, I’d like to join the CR shomrim.

For those that don’t understand the dangers, please read the following thread:

http://www.theyeshivaworld.com/coffeeroom/topic/where-do-you-come-in-in-ur-family

And as was correctly pointed out by mod72 in that thread and by yentingyenta above, its not just posters that can use this personal info but lurkers as well.

he can’t show you his badge because it has his name and serial number on it. It would be kinda hypocritical if he were to post that personal info here.

but seriously, it doesn’t take much scrutinizing to see personal info being pried out of unsuspecting people, or to see people splilling the beans on their own.

ZeesKite

Because Mommy Said So

I really don’t know what this hype is all about. Iv’e not really followed the other threads where I saw you’ve voiced (stated) your concerns entirely, but I couldn’t see anything amiss. I did not note one instance of one asking private info of another. Maybe you could point it out.

Zeeskite: We have already wondered whether you were a Joseph manifestation yourself. The mods didn’t thinks so, and I apologize if you aren’t.

But why do you insist on making us think so?

Oh theres a Coffee Room Shomrim now? good maybe they can keep on eye on the cr sikrikim

Because zeeskite is joseph

80,

LOL

Make that 2346b.

Since the mods seem to agree, I’d like to make a small suggestion. When a new member logs in, it says, Ocupation, interests, state etc. then it says “required”. In my innocence, I thought that indeed, they were “required”. So I filled in some of the info. I’m not sure how many posters got to see it, but after I realized that everyone has access to that info, I simply deleted it – which I thought wasn’t an option! So I suggest, mods, that you remove the word “required” or better yet everything.

Thank you, and Good Shabbos.

i agree with you observ

the mods have no control over that

I think I’m out of here….u are all right and you scared me!

Kapusta how does a thread get “Stick-yed?”

i fixed the profile

youll have to tell me exactly where that post is in order for me to do anything

Kapusta how does a thread get “Stick-yed?”

The mods can “sticky” a thread.

*kapusta*

Jothar, you wrote:

“I’ll let them decide when something is police-worthy.”

What does that mean?

It already is. And it’s being dealt with on a legal level. Think about it for a minute. If someone broke into your store in the dead of night, and secretly hung around there for ages doing all types of damage, stalking people, threatening people, blackmailing people etc, you would have them arrested too.

Jothar! You have to be putting us on.

Here is the danger in what you are doing by setting yourself up to be a look out, even though you are unsure of many things and have no power to do anything but run around saying the sky is falling:

If two people are talking and they seem to share a common location or know of a nice restaurant in the same area and one asks if they know where so and so pizza shop is, etc., YOU come running in with your badge and boots clopping on the floor and point and say you are stopping a crime in progress.

Well, what exactly is that crime? Also, you should realize you are merely guessing that someone is “mining” information rather than just talking. You are not a trained law enforcement investigator, as far as I know.

The danger of you “outting” someone “you think” is doing something wrong opens you and the rest of us up to a ton of Shmiras HaLoshon problems. AND, if you are wrong you have the problem of if the person leaves or changes their screen name, you can not ask them to be mochel you. That carries for eternity.

I would say if you suspect something, report it to the local internet crimes bureau and let them handle it because a suspicion is not the crime.

Frankly, your monotonous theme is in every one of your posts to the point I am suggestion you are the one with online communication issues.

Stop with the “shmiras halashon” scream. Enough of that already. We are dealing with a very sick demented mentally disturbed person who intimidates, stalks, harasses people, steals from people, and lots of other illegal behavior.

Health: i was actually found out because of a thread i started labeled “pharm”. one of my class mates recognized my style and txted me “are you so and so on the CR?”. the second time was actually from a different comment that i made on a thread about young couples getting divorced. a HS classmate went to a mutual friend of ours and asked her does this person sound like s/o in our class? and my friend (being the good friend that she is) asked me for conformation before spreading rumors. i don’t think the info was so specific to me and so identifying but i guess it was. even months later i can’t figure out how it gave me away. any ideas?

Yenta – Since it seems you were found out by friends – if it was me – I would be proud of what I posted and not the least bit embarrassed. I hold by everything I write and I know that I’m not perfect and sometimes I make mistakes, but so does e/o! But I try my best.

Jothar: You are scaring the wits out of me. What if they already saw some of your info, will they then…do any harm?

Jothar, why dont you calm down? You are causing ripples in the generally pleasant environment here and disturbing a pleasant flow of communication. And please dont say you are doing a righteous thing so you have permission to step on toes. Additionally, your ability to perceive what others mean, and, again, stepping on a few toes in the process, does not lend you to be one who can “accuse” with any trained level of accuracy. I dont want to harsh your gig, but try to blend and let those in charge handle the safety concerns. What would the point be of being a fireman with no training no fire engine no hose no ladder, but who runs around alarming people shouting, “there may be a fire over there…there may be a fire over there”? There are real fireman who are on the job. You can become one, too. But, until then….easy…