Proposed Solution to the Arab-Zionist Conflict: Non-Denominational State

@somejew
A] disagree with all of your answers but will look at SH’A 157 again

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B] your answer is not addressing the question —
the question is re the immediate p/n resulting from inaction of the IDF [!] …. not about the situation WITH IDF’s ACTION

you attempt to prove the lack of p/n in EY from the fact that no people run away in the present … you totally ignore the fallacy of this proof …

the reason they do not run away is a result of the IDF’s activities … the question was re p/n WHEN THE IDF is INACTIVE …

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you are straw manning my words — I never advocated for mass aliah to EY … I advocate for an honest open minded FACT BASED normative halachik analysis of the situation

without being pre-obligated and biased to zionist ideology , nor to antizionist ideology

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firstly – this entire discussion IS ABOUT the potential dismantlement of the medina and the IDF

secondly – there IS NO SERIOUS ATTEMPT AT ALL on your behalf to provide exact details of a replacement government

thirdly – you totally ignore the plain fact that ‘evil parties’ are right now , as we debate , threatening lives …..

and you totally ignore the main issue … not whether there SHOULD be the option to leave ….

rather the main issue is whether there WILL BE the option to leave ….

what SHOULD BE is totally irrelevant ….

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so -the question again :
What is your reasonable practical plan how ‘running away’ is going to preclude the p/n resulting from the IDF being inactive ….

you are talking about millions ‘running away’ … all ages ….sucklings and grandmothers …. healthy people and sick people ….
…. wheelchairs and stretchers … double buggies and pregnant mothers ….

What is your reasonable practical plan where this ‘running away’ is going towards … towards which country ….
you have not furnished any reasonable practical details …

What is your reasonable practical timetable re how long this ‘running away’ of millions is going to take …
and what reasonable and practical safeguards do you have for the safety of those millions while the ‘running away’ is going on ….

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C] you seem to pretend to make a uturn now , while plausibly still secretly maintaining that rav chaim is a zuken mamre

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D] I still maintain that in the past these were your claims . But you are not obligated to maintain them in the present .

so — for the present : can you clarify your position ?

Given that hatsala responds with hilul shabat to address even avoidable and previously self created emergencies …. do you agree that jews should respond with hilul shevu’a to address avoidable and previously self created emergencies ?

I have no more time now — but will bln continue