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@somejew
A] disagree with all of your answers but will look at SH’A 157 again.
B] your answer is not addressing the question —
the question is re the immediate p/n resulting from inaction of the IDF [!] …. not about the situation WITH IDF’s ACTIONyou attempt to prove the lack of p/n in EY from the fact that no people run away in the present … you totally ignore the fallacy of this proof …
the reason they do not run away is a result of the IDF’s activities … the question was re p/n WHEN THE IDF is INACTIVE …
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you are straw manning my words — I never advocated for mass aliah to EY … I advocate for an honest open minded FACT BASED normative halachik analysis of the situation
without being pre-obligated and biased to zionist ideology , nor to antizionist ideology
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firstly – this entire discussion IS ABOUT the potential dismantlement of the medina and the IDF
secondly – there IS NO SERIOUS ATTEMPT AT ALL on your behalf to provide exact details of a replacement government
thirdly – you totally ignore the plain fact that ‘evil parties’ are right now , as we debate , threatening lives …..
and you totally ignore the main issue … not whether there SHOULD be the option to leave ….
rather the main issue is whether there WILL BE the option to leave ….
what SHOULD BE is totally irrelevant ….
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so -the question again :
What is your reasonable practical plan how ‘running away’ is going to preclude the p/n resulting from the IDF being inactive ….you are talking about millions ‘running away’ … all ages ….sucklings and grandmothers …. healthy people and sick people ….
…. wheelchairs and stretchers … double buggies and pregnant mothers ….What is your reasonable practical plan where this ‘running away’ is going towards … towards which country ….
you have not furnished any reasonable practical details …What is your reasonable practical timetable re how long this ‘running away’ of millions is going to take …
and what reasonable and practical safeguards do you have for the safety of those millions while the ‘running away’ is going on …..
C] you seem to pretend to make a uturn now , while plausibly still secretly maintaining that rav chaim is a zuken mamre
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D] I still maintain that in the past these were your claims . But you are not obligated to maintain them in the present .
so — for the present : can you clarify your position ?
Given that hatsala responds with hilul shabat to address even avoidable and previously self created emergencies …. do you agree that jews should respond with hilul shevu’a to address avoidable and previously self created emergencies ?
I have no more time now — but will bln continue
in case you forgot, I’m still waiting for your full response
just to keep us on track, I am waiting for you to finish and respond to the following unanswered questions:
E] I don’t understand your question. Do you know what “haluche” is? Currently there is much psak haluche vis a vis the zionists, which a zionist kofer would transgress. The avnei nezer DOES say that one is (of course!) obligated to keep the Talmudic teaching we call the “Shulosh Sevios”, despite them not having been generally established (in his time) psak haluche. It would certainly , according to any koshe Jew and certainly the Avnei Nezer, an aveira to not keep ANY letter of the Torah including the “shulosh shevios”
F] Sounds like you are conceding the point. You earlier wrote ” the steipler clearly writes that the mere existence of the medina is not against the shavu’ot”. Now you seem to admit that STEIPLER DID NOT WRITE THAT. Is it true that you were wrong?
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YOU have ignored the following:
>> you have never owned up to point that halacha everywhere is not decided by what would , could or should have been — only by what is …
>I have no idea what you are talking about or asking
G] Have you conceded that what you wrote here is nonsense?>> you have never owned up to the fact that avnei nezer clearly writes that haskamat ha’umot will negate the shavu’ot
>I’ve never been asked this. where does the Avnei Nezer say this? (please quote exact line, as some of his tshivas are very long)
H] Have you conceded that AVNEI NEZER DID NOT WRITE THAT. Is it true that you were wrong?Once I have your full response, I will happily give my feedback.
Have not forgotten about you …
How could I …
You are the only one from whom I get such terrific compliments …
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.@yankel-berel
i don’t compliment reshoyimmaharl diskin says that those who are dan lekaf chov are not harming the people they are dan
they harm themselves ….
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.let me remind you of the “dan lkaf chov” words of yours that got you here:
This seems like an established pattern
A] somejew posts something extreme and objectionable
B] other posters reply and disagree
C] somejew replies and calls them priests , fools , idolaters etc
D] the other posters respond in kind and somejew receives the same vitriol back in his own face
E] somejew gets offended and disappears
F] after a while , somejew gets over it and starts afresh
G] back to A again ….
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the only way somejew is able to disprove the above post
is by supplying a point by point, fact and logic based answer , to each and every question
without running away ….
what somejew was doing till now , was plain …. running away …
it s high time somejew is accountable for the shenanigans he is posting
meanwhile you seem to be “too busy” to admit you are wrong. I’ve always been curious, does the erev rav realize they are the erev rav, or do you really think you are jewish? but please, don’t bother answering, i don’t want you to get distracted from answering the above long-delayed response to the above.
Seems that in somejew’s tanach it says “veameich kulam reshaim” instead of “veameich kulam tsadikim” …..
it seems that somejew has a different torah , different to the torah of klal yisrael ledoroteihem …
in somejew’s torah there seems no place for elu ve’elu …
in somejew’s torah , facts and logic don’t seem to matter
in somejew’s torah , there is no openness to arrive at a conclusion kedarka shel tora
in somejew’s torah every maskana is predetermined to be subservient to a rigid and narrow ideological straightjacket
no wonder that somejew ends up being megaleh panim batorah shelo kehalacha and in the process being mevazah gdolei olam ….
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humility …..
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.I have no idea why you keep attacking me, when I have said nothing controversial for a Torah honest Jew.
I answered all your long list of questions, and I am still waiting for you to admit you were wrong.Now you are introducing more nonsense questions that reflect both insincerity and ignorance, which I can also answer. But, let’s not lose track of finishing up your first list and your consistent mistakes and foolish claims.
I am waiting now more than two weeks for you to simply say “I was wrong”
Yankel Berel is correct:
This seems like an established pattern:
[A] somejew posts something extreme and objectionable.
[B] other posters reply and disagree.
[C] somejew replies and calls them priests , fools , idolaters etc.
[D] the other posters respond in kind and somejew receives the same vitriol back in his own face.
[E] somejew gets offended and disappears.
[F] After a while, somejew gets over it, and starts afresh.
[G] back to A again ….
lol.
according to somejew , his debaters are
A] fools
B] priests
C] reshaim
D] ignoramuseswhat does that say about somejew …..
about his humility …..
about his midot …..
Besides the point … legufo shel inyan … od chazon lamo’ed ….
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.@square_root
when did I “get offended and disappear”?I was clear in what I wrote.
@yankel-berel
why would the bad character of people who disagree with me have anything to with me, my humility status, or my midos?your response only proves my point …
.I’m still waiting for your response “kedarka shel tora”.
or have you hypocritically choosen to “disappear”?Of course, you are like other “religious zionist” fools and “catholic” fools who don’t care about Torah except to serve their idolatry.
I continue to doubt you will admit you are wrong, instead ignoring my above pointed questions.the undeserved epithets you routinely throw at your innocent debaters serve as additional proof to what I wrote ….
fools ….
zionist ….
catholic …..
dont care about torah ….
idolatry ….
response kedarka shel torah will come bln ….
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.the epithets i delivered are deserved. additionally,i don’t know who debating here is claiming to be innocent If you are indeed ignorant in a matter, don’t start arguing a random position of “sheriris liboi” and then get upset for being called out on that.
In any case, @yankel-berel, it’s now been over 20 days that you have delayed responding to my simple request to apologize for (or defend) your cruel words and baseless accusation.
I stand by my words with Torah and nothing else. When I am wrong, I admit it. That is why I am not a zionist priest like you.
Please stop avoiding the facts of our Holy Torah, do tshiva, and respond to the above questions honestly and maybe you will have a chance to get out of your mess.
lol.
somejew apparently is living in a bubble
saw just today yalkut shimoni ester perek 3 .
yachin rasha ve tsadiq yilbash is referring to haman preparing for mordechai and binyan bet hamikdash
proof that even an amaleki rasha like haman that principle applies
so why can that principle not apply to the medina ?
they work hard , prepare everything , to be taken over by a tsadiq , like mashiach ?
does yalkut shimoni count as a ‘fact of our holy torah’ ?
so mr priest who goes by the moniker of somejew
please do tshiva and give us your teshuva honestly , maybe you will have a chance to get out of your mess ….
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.You took the time to write, but have failed to answer the questions, instead scared away from facing Hashem Torah and instead chose another distraction. I”ll answer your new question here:
I don’t understand what the problem is you see in that chazal.
Everything Hashem does is for good, even the koyach He give reshoyim. Nonetheless, we Jews are obligated to resist aveiros and push away evil, all as per the dictates of the Torah.
The zionist state is as much a preparation for moshaich as the nazi camps, and many gedolim have pointed out that they are both activities of amulek one and the same. We Jews continue to pray for the quick speedy downfall of the “Evil Nazi Death Cult” called zionism, their political state called “Israel” and its antisemitic violent army called the “IDF”.
Moving on, please respond to the outstanding question, admit your mistakes and the Torah you distorted, and stop pushing zionist heresy.
Fanatical brainwashed anti-Zionists, like the Neturei Karta,
UJM, HaKatan, and SomeJewIKnow, never stop causing machlokes
and never stop causing Jews to fight each other and hate each other.G*D will certainly inflict devastating punishments on them,
in both Olam HaZeh and Olam HaBa.Because they do not know when to stop,
they will merit punishments that never end,
because of midah-keneged-midah.Their never ending machlokes will outweigh all of their good deeds,
and Gehinom is their destiny.And I don’t feel sorry for them, because they do not know when to stop,
somejew has zero bikush ha’emet
somejew approaches every question as a failed lawyer would
somejew shoots his arrow and then paints the circles around them
somejew is an eved nirtsah to the most extreme version of the shitah hakdosha and therefore lost his ability of coherent thought
somejew will not be zocheh to come to an emet based maskana until he frees his mind from the shackles of predetermined brainwash
somejew should accept the methods of the gadol and the tsadiq the hazon ish who never reached a maskana without
a rigorous process of learning with all his might , without bias , first like one side of the debate , bringing any possible proof
then exactly the same for the other side
and then with real yir’at shamayim comparing both and
only then deciding which one is more emet
that is the required method , kedarka shel torah , to arrive at a real torah conclusion
somejew’s repeated comments are a fitting antithesis to the hazon ish’s approach ….
instead of approaching these hamur pikuach nefesh questions like a failed lawyer
somejew should approach them like real torah judge , genuinely considering both sides …..
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.A] the pashtut in YD 157 is that barring shaat hashmad there are only 3 averot which are yehareig veal yaavor , all others p/n is doche them
meaning that p/n is doche the shavu’ot as they are not one of the three
you have not yet furnished an answer in any of your posts …
– A1] the language of SH’A YD is clear – only 3 averot are yehareig ve’al yaavor
– A2] ktsot hachoshen [think in CM 87 ] clearly says that hashmata of SH’A is proof that he disagrees
– A3] there is no proof nor logic offered that breaking the shavu’ot is somehow avoda zara
– A4] breaking the shavu’ot has no connection with shat shmad . shat shmad is a condition which aggravates the halacha of an issur which is done .
there is no shat shmad forcing someone to beak the shavu’ot . there is pikuach nefesh which is matir the shavu’ot [if applicable]
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.B] You claimed that the current situation in EY without an active IDF is not p/n , because the people can run away …
you have not brought any reasonable practical plan how ‘running away’ is going to preclude the p/n resulting from the IDF being inactive ….
– B1] your position is not only illogical to the extreme , it is disingenuous . you attempt to prove that since no one is running away now , that there is
no chashash p/n .the point was that WITHOUT IDF there is p/n . how does the lack of running away now , WITH THE IDF , prove anything re the situation without
the idf ? ?
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.C] Sure you insinuated that rav chaim is a zuken mamre – rav chaim clearly said in public that fallen IDF soldiers are begeder harugei lud
this appellation – zuken mamre – , was used by you so as to not accept rav chaims statement …
D] you repeatedly claim that we should ignore p/n issues in EY because everything and anything wrong in the entire middle east is the exclusive fault of the zionists … if only they would have not ‘invaded’ [using your crooked language] there would be no p/n ….
therefore we somehow should ignore this supposedly zionist manufactured p/n …
– D1 ] that’s not straw manning al all . this is an accurate description of your repeated comments on these pages
– D2 ] zionists never ‘invaded’ …. they immigrated ……. like the shevet halevi with his rabbanit …. .
if someone ‘invaded’ … it was the seven arab armies who invaded in ’48 with their militaries to push the jews into the sea …
and to surpass the mongol massacres [language from the SC general of the arab league] ….
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.even if the facts and your portrayal do align … even then …. you have not at all explained why this is relevant to the way we are obligated to respond …
does hatsala not respond with hilul shabat to address avoidable emergencies ?
does hatsala not respond with hilul shabat to address self created emergencies ?
you simply keep on skirting the real issues ….
– D2] you totally ignored this point . — is the source of the p/n relevant when deciding to be docheh issurei torah [non hamurot] ?
yes or no ?
if your answer is yes , why is that different to hatsalah being mechalel shabat to save someone who knowingly created his own p/n ?
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.E] No , you did not admit to the clear words of avnei nezer
you did not admit that someone transgressing the oaths did not transgress a halacha
– E1] am not sure whether you yourself understand what you wrote ….
the question was – does avnei nezer write those words …. that the shavu’ot are not lehalacha …. yes or no
do you have enough of bikush emet to agree to this simple fact ….. ? ?
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.F] Steipler clearly limits the halachik illegality of the medina to its ESTABLISHMENT .
this is in the letter re the obligation to vote
you have never admitted to this , although this is the clear meaning of his words
– F1] ‘the steipler clearly writes that the mere existence of the medina is not against the shavu’ot’
thats what I wrote before
now I write that —- ‘Steipler clearly limits the halachik illegality of the medina to its ESTABLISHMENT’
Is there a contradiction between those two statements … ??
where is your bikush ha’emet ? ?
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.G] somejew should answer the following:
somejew never owned up to point that halacha everywhere is not decided by what would , could or should have been — only by what is …
this is extremely simple — whenever the p/n question comes up , somejew’s automatic response is —- its the fault of the zionists ….
if they would not ….. than there would be no p/n ….
can somejew , once and for all admit , that this type of reasoning is NEVER used in any other halachik deliberation re p/n …. ? ? ?
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H] somejew has never owned up to the fact that avnei nezer clearly writes that haskamat ha’umot will negate the shavu’otI do not have avnei nezer handy now .
he definitely says it at the end of his tshuvot in YD . I saw it with my own eyes .
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.somejew apparently is living in a bubble
he claims that the medina has to be destroyed because it was made by reshaim ….
when confronted by rambam in hakdama to mishnayot where rambam writes that the rbsh’o organises a rasha to build a palace
in order that it should come to use for a tsadiq much later ….
because … yachin rasha ve tsadiq yilbash
somejew answered that rambam is not talking about a rasha like the tsiyonim
so ….
saw yalkut shimoni ester perek 3 .
yachin rasha ve tsadiq yilbash is referring to hamans house built by haman preparing for mordechai and binyan bet hamikdash
proof that even an amaleki rasha like haman that principle applies
so why can that principle not apply to the medina ?
they work hard , prepare everything , to be taken over by a tsadiq , like mashiach ?
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.@yankel-berel
> somejew should approach them like real torah judge , genuinely considering both sides …..no, I don’t need to do this. this is NOT the chazon ish’s approach when there is clear teachings/psak from previous gedolim and there is no “two sides”. If there is another side, one that has not already been considered and answered by those gedolim, please let me know. So far, @yankel-berel, you haven’t presented to me anything that is not already answered by people YOU admit are greater than you. As far as I can see, you do not have “another side” available, just foolishness.
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just to keep us on track, I am waiting for you to finish and respond to the following unanswered questions:
G] I still have no idea what you are even attempting to talk about or ask here. What is your question?
H] I’ll wait for you to check the Avnei Nezer. It’s available on Hebrew Books for free. Where does the Avnei Nezer say what you claim?
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> he claims that the medina has to be destroyed because it was made by reshaim ….
I never claimed this.> somejew answered that rambam is not talking about a rasha like the tsiyonim
I never answered this> so why can that principle not apply to the medina ?
> they work hard , prepare everything , to be taken over by a tsadiq , like mashiach ?In theory, I don’t have a problem with this. There are specific points in chazal about biyas moshiach that strongly push against what you are implying, but that is a new conversation we haven’t touched here in CR.
The earlier answer I gave to the above points did NOT talk about anything needing be destroyed nor did I mention the Rambam. What I wrote was:
Everything Hashem does is for good, even the koyach He give reshoyim. Nonetheless, we Jews are obligated to resist aveiros and push away evil, all as per the dictates of the Torah.
The zionist state is as much a preparation for moshaich as the nazi camps, and many gedolim have pointed out that they are both activities of amulek one and the same. We Jews continue to pray for the quick speedy downfall of the “Evil Nazi Death Cult” called zionism, their political state called “Israel” and its antisemitic violent army called the “IDF”.
somejew is to be thanked for his honesty , at least in this particular instance ….
somejew bepeh malei , agreed that he is NOT looking at both sides … this in a matter of clear pikuach nefesh [!!!]
somejew agreed that he is not approaching this pikuach nefesh matter as a torah judge
rather as an exercise of disfiguration of his braincells in a futile attempt to rationalize his preconceived adherence to the most extreme version of the satmar shitah
meaning that somejew decided , before [!!] his examination of original torah sources [!!] that his version of the shavu’ot is docheh pikuach nefesh
and only after the fact …. is searching hazal for justification for his fanatical position.
in other words … somejew is prepared for the mass slaughter chvsh , of others [not his own immediate family …] without examination of torah sources
kedarkah shel torah , as practised in all other issues of torah psak , during all previous generations ….
this should serve as the ultimate disqualification of somejew of being worthy of any contribution on any subject relating to the jews of EY …
and as a timely reminder of the power of dei’ot kedumot to corrupt normal thinking ….
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.are you okay?
I’ll happily look at any Torah source and view any sugya from all those kosher “sides”. What I won’t do is create, chalila, a side that doesn’t have a source from a major authority.
regarding the sugya at hand, as I said before: there are no “two sides”. If there is another side, one that has not already been considered and answered by those gedolim, please let me know.
a debate with someone who IN ADVANCE excludes one side is an obvious exercise in fulility.
you are not acting as a judge , as you should …
you act as a lawyer …. for a failed cause
you are hopeless …
as long as you operate in this way , there is no hope for you to reach the emet
nor do you have any chance to convince any one of your totally of the mark shtuyot
even when they are dressed up as a torah shitah
sorry about that
but these are the plain facts
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you wrote:
> a debate with someone who IN ADVANCE excludes one side is an obvious exercise in fulility.what is the “one side” I am excluding in Torah? I asked you for ANY sources I might have missed.
what in the world are you even talking about?
Do you mean to call any rambling idea “a side” that I have to consider, or do you agree that we Jews must ONLY consider the Torah that we have passed down from Sinai as per our mesorah?
just to keep us on track, I am waiting for you to finish and respond to the following unanswered questions:
G] I still have no idea what you are even attempting to talk about or ask here. What is your question?
H] I’ll wait for you to check the Avnei Nezer. It’s available on Hebrew Books for free. Where does the Avnei Nezer say what you claim?
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i suppose you will just continue your like a true zionist/shatnik/reformer/notzri and avoid admitting you are wrong and you will continue believing concocted nonsense not in our Torah
you are playing games — nothing more
you have been playing games right from when you started to post …
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you don’t start from where one is meant to start
your starting point is that ‘sweet cohen’ is right ….
you come with hanachot kedumot …
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you are not open to any tsad which is not like your hanachot kedumot
that’s why discussion with you is futile
the correct way and the correct starting point is the torah and hazal without any preordained positions
no previous shitot
not like the zionist side
and not like the antizionist side …
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.start to examine all issues without fear or favor
and let the chips fall wherever they fall …
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.any fair minded person doing the above, will conclude that your writings border on plain lunacy
it is that simple
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.you’re beginning to sound more and more like @rescue every day!
We learn Torah as taught and understand and accepted across generation, within the framework given by Hashem at Sinai.
Regardless, this is not even the point you are missing. I have asked you multiple times to provide me any “torah and hazal” that does not align with anything I have written, and of course with the caveat that those pesikim and mamarim must be understood as taught by accepted torah authorities.
But, you, @yankel-berel the kofer, have nothing to argue with when I ask you to provide a valid source for your “other side”.
In contrast, I have readily supported everything I write with mekoros when requested (or admit I’m wrong when I am wrong).
I take great offense at being compared to rescue
All I say is ; continuation .
Continuation of the same approach.
We should approach all contemporary issues the exact same way as other issues were approached across all previous generations …
taught and accepted across generation, within the framework given by the RBSHO at Sinai.
Kedarkah shel torah.
As used in any other issue, like …
Opening a fridge on shabbat .
No hanachot kedumot , mutar or assur …
We start to learn the relevant sugya , with rishonim ,aharonim and poskim with an open mind , correspond with the greatest living talmidie hahamim
apply time honored ways of reasoning with bikush ha’emet
daven for syata dishmaya
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and only then [!] form an opinion
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you and the other kannaim like ujm, pure yiddishkeit , katan , philosopher etc.
have never gone down that road …
hence the diminished value of their contributions and opinions
As long as you refuse to consider approaching this issue the exact same way the poskim did re any other issue , this conversation seems fruitless
your arguments are not REASONS for your opinions …
they are EXCUSES for your opinions ….
vedo’k harbeh ki zeh amuk me’od …..
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Some jew I know and yankel berel your both saying the same things. Lol
Your both saying to learn the Torah like they tought at har sinia…..maybe yankel berel is just giving more perspective….
I’m not too interested in getting into the root of your confusion. I have always and continue to claim that my only goal is the Torah.
This conversation quickly became about something else, rachmuneh latzlun, when you started talking about “another side” that is NOT in the Torah. Entertaining teachings or musings that are not in the Torah is certainly not “k’dracho shel toyreh”, rather it is an issur of baal tosif and other aveiros.
So, the door is still open for you to provide any Torah sources that I have not addressed. I don’t believe I have done anything in these conversations except point to Torah sources and point to published teaches of torah authorities that explain what those sources mean. I am not adding my personal opinions, chas v’shulem, or other biases.
You, however, haven’t admitted to lying about the Avnei Nezer, claiming he taught something that neither he nor anyone else of stature taught, all in support of your other antisemitic religion.
rushe, merisha.
Some jew I know…..so anything that’s not in the Torah is assur to talk about. So you control all your thinking and only think in line of what you are told …right that sounds very smart.
Relax real life has a caladascope of oppions and perspectives
You know what’s not in the Torah snow white, Harry Potter. There’s lots of things not in the Torah.
The Torah is not a control book it’s a book of principles morals and a guidebook for life.
It’s not sapposed to make you control everything and only let “certain perspectives, beliefs, feelings in” there’s still a calladascope of oppions, thoughts and things that are still allowed even despite it not being in the “Torah” you need to relax and stop trying to control everything including critical thinkingyou sorry @rescue, but I practice something called “Judaism”. I’m not so familiar with whatever crooked stupidity you are pushing today, nor am I interested in hearing about it.
Please respect my “safe space” here and stop threatening me with your antisemitic dog whistles. If you are looking for peers to vent your anger at Judaism, G-d, or His Torah, there are many “religious zionist” and “messianic” websites where evil people can gather and further kill themselves.“And he [Rabbi Shraga Feivel Mendlowitz] expressed amazement
that anyone who considered himself a good Jew could possibly
go seven days without thinking of some way in which he could
improve the lot of settlers in Eretz Yisrael or otherwise improve the Land.”SOURCE: Reb Shraga Feivel: the life and times of
Rabbi Shraga Feivel Mendlowitz, the architect of Torah in America
(chapter 25, page 322) by Yonoson Rosenblum for Artscroll / Mesorah,
year 2001 CE, based on Aharon Sorasky’s Shelucha DeRachmana,
ISBNs: 157819797X, 9781578197972, 1578197961, 9781578197965__________________________________________
PERSONAL COMMENT:If you read the quote shown above carefully,
you will understand that Rabbi Shraga Feivel Mendlowitz
(known as: “the premier architect of Torah in American history”)
wanted ALL JEWS to help the settlers in Eretz Yisrael,
even though most of those settlers were Secular ZIONISTS!!!“On Friday, November 29, 1947, the United Nations debated
the issue of partitioning the British Mandate for Palestine
into two countries, one Arab and on Jewish.Reb Shraga Feivel [Mendlowitz] prayed fervently for partition.
He had no radio in his house, but that Friday he borrowed one
and set it to the news, leaving it on for Shabbos.He waited with such tense anticipation to hear the outcome
of the U. N. [United Nations] vote that he did not come to shalosh seudos.When he heard the U. N.’s decision to establish a Jewish state,
he stood up and recited the blessing
HaTov VeHaMeitiv, Who is good and Who does good.Without losing sight of the anti-religious nature of the leaders
of the yishuv in Eretz Yisrael, he nevertheless saw the creation
of a Jewish state an act of Providence and as a cause for rejoicing.At the very least, there would now be one country in the world
whose gates would be open to the thousands of Holocaust survivors
still languishing in Displaced Persons Camps in Germany and Austria.”SOURCE: Reb Shraga Feivel: the life and times of
Rabbi Shraga Feivel Mendlowitz, the architect of Torah in America
(chapter 26, page 331) by Yonoson Rosenblum for Artscroll / Mesorah,
year 2001 CE, based on Aharon Sorasky’s Shelucha DeRachmana,
ISBNs: 157819797X, 9781578197972, 1578197961, 9781578197965@yankel-berel
did you die before doing tshiva?Somejewiknow
Before you read discern, listen, think about you jump to angry vitroel because you can’t handle anyone with critical thinking skills.
Do you know what cognitive dissonance is. It’s youSomejewiknow
Truth will find you no matter what safe space you look at.
“Antisemitic vitroel”
Wow what a nice way of saying you can’t handle anybody who speaks facts.
Cute keep running away from reality. It suits you.
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