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Anyone have thoughts on Israeli hats vs. American hats? Kova or Bencraft in Borough Park? Hat Box??
@Our Torah – Keep strong and always continue growing, don’t stop no matter what anyone tells. At the same time, maintain your critical thinking and love of every Jew (even if they might not act in ways you wish they did). ??? ????!
It’s a service done on the side, somewhat of a part time job… just wanted to get a range and an idea of what people charge and pay. Thanks!
anyone have any more info/advice? range of pricing, etc.???
Monte Carlo in the Fairfax-Labrea has suits which have all already been checked for shatnez and have the kehillah label.
don’t know exactly…
what are options & range?
It’s a nice community…
I think that for davening it would be proper to take them out (however in your case of only wearing it at night it may be different). davening is compared to approaching a king and one would never wear retainers (if they were remoavable) when approaching a king so kal vechomer (even the more so) Hakadosh Baruch Hu. However, stam simple brachos may be different. If you eat with retainers then it would seem fine to keep them in (as long as words of bracha can be said correctly) – this is different from davening as it’s a “thank you” to Hashem as opposed to an official meeting/conversation. However, if you don’t eat with retainers then why not take it out for the bracha – you might as well + it wouldn’t be respectful to take them out for eating but not for blessing Hashem.
These are just some of my thoughts… for practical application of halacha, however, CONSULT YOUR RAV OR LOCAL POSEK to answer specific questions. Hatzlachah!
@beast: learn about the topic and discuss it with others in the area. make an educated disission and please don’t be influence by political motives. In my eyes it’s so silly for political issues to stop one from fulfilling a mitzvah d’oraiysa
@ShlomoZalmanMeir: There are infact gedolim that do where techeilles, however, not many of them. Keep in mind that there are many factors that are involved in a gadol’s decision. (economics, political, etc.) Something which is a safek, gedolim may not be so quick to jump on right away. There is a story Rav Shachter tells over that a Rav from Farakway went to go ask Rav Elyashiv about techeilles. Rav Elyashiv said that he holds like the printed version of the Beis Halevi’s letter (inside the Radzyner Rebbe’s sefer). Given that and given all of the scientifc proof for the murex trunculus he asked Rav Elyashiv what to do about this Techeilles. Supposedly Rav Elyashiv’s response was “That’s a good question, I need to think about it.”
@besalel: why are there no halachic tools available to assist poskim about this decision? There are many meforshim who write that scientific knowledge is indeed a reason to reinstitute a mitzvah, implying that we should wear the murex trunculus techeilles. Furthermore, why would kabbalistic beliefs overpower halacha, especially those on a d’oraiysa level!? Lastly, depending on how you learn the sugya halacha can indeed obligate us to wear it. Rav Shachter says that the whole shaiyla is “are you mechuyav to spend money on it.” It doesn’t hurt (says gemara in menachos) so why not wear it? There is such a high percentage of a chance that we could fulfill a mitzvah d’oraiysa!
@sam4321: if everyone agrees to wear it there won’t be any “lo sisgodidu” anymore. However, because not everyone wears it, that’s why most people that do wear it don’t wear it explicitly for everyone to see. It’s something that’s done more betzinah.
@YehudahTzvi: I have heard that there are those close to Rav Sheinberg who say that he does indeed wear it.
@Sam2: are you sure rav shachter said that? can you please directly me to that mekor?
@Sam4321: CORRECTION – i believe what you said, “According to the Bais Halevi one needs a postive mesora which we lost.” It depends what version you hold by of the letter – the printed version in the Radzyner Rebbe’s sefer or the oral tradition by the Soloveitchik family. Supposedly Rav Elyashiv was asked what version he holds by and the response was: “oral tradition doesn’t make sense.”
“And with the help God it has come to my hands to extract, from the blood of the cuttlefish which is] black as ink, the color tekhelet in a manner which nothing affects the color other than the blood of the hillazon; and the chemical additives are colorless and only work to extract the color from the blood” (Sifrei HaTekhelet, Ptil Tekhelet, p.168).
@ mms601: If chus v’shalom there were extenuating cirmustances and people weren’t able to keep shabbos for whatever reason for a long period of time. Does that mean that when the bad times ended they shouldn’t keep shabbos anymore? ?
@HaLeiVi – I got to the Yeshiva that my parents wanted me in. Not yeshivish, it’s modern orthodox. and thanks Itchesrulik, I totally agree.
ANYWAYS, THANKS FOR EVERYONE’S ADVICE AND GUT YUNTIF!
Health – I found that comment to be very offensive. We all have our different opinions, so there’s no reasons to use “names”, especially to other frum yidden.
1) I don’t understand why you say the “tzionim” took it. What is that supposed to mean? We are all tzionim for we say 3 times a day (vesechezeyna eineyn beshuvcha letzion). Now, I understand that that means the Beis Hamikdash being rebuilt and Mashiach coming, but that has to start with the medinah. How do you explain the wars we miraculously won! The answer is Hashem! Hashem gave it to us. Had we merely “taken it” like you said, we would all be dead by now!
2) Part of the gift has been given, and if we all continue to serve Hashem to the best of our capabilities, the rest is on its way! This is “reishit smichat legeulateinu”!!!
3) How could you say such a thing? kefirah? We finally have a Jewish state! Look at all the yeshivos and bnei Torah funded by the government! kefirah? No, it’s not! You can’t expect everything to be perfect and run religiously, it’s a process. We can’t shut off doors because we’re not at the “perfect stage” yet. We need to work toward it.
I think it’s very important that we support Eretz Yisrael, and it’s status as a state right now. Especially, with what’s going on right now, the last thing we want is Anti-semites taking it over. Can you just imagine what would happen? No more yeshivas, no more kotel, etc. We need to support our fellow Jews as well as Eretz Yisrael. Whether you believe that it’s the beginning of the geulah is a personal choice. The fact that we have to support it isn’t an option. Am Yisrael Chai, and may the geulah come speedily in our days!
@Health: I respectfully fundamentally disagree with your position. I actually find your words to be somewhat offensive. If Hashem gives us control and sovereignty over the medinah, how could we not celebrate it? it’s almost like saying to Hashem “thanks for your most generous gift, but I don’t want it.” How could you say such a thing? If this isn’t the beginning of the geulah, then what is? Why be so negative? To bring a textual proof, just look what happened to Chizkiyahu… Hashem did something great for him, he didn’t thank Hashem properly (now a days Hallel – I agree, without a bracha), and then the geulah didn’t happen. We learn that had Chizkiyahu thanked Hashem properly, mashiach would’ve come! Our job is to live as frum yiddin, thank Hashem for what he has given us (how is the medinah any different), and support our fellow Jews!
@ItcheSrulik: the view is that it’s “silly” and “wrong. I know it’s a longer discussion than this forum allows for, but what made you make the switch?
@Josh31: not many black hats in the shul. the Rav also doesn’t wear one. Remember, this is a Modern Orthodox institution we’re talking about
@WolfishMusings: thanks for the suggestion, but it wouldn’t exactly do the trick. I think that would stand out even more
@HaLeiVi: thanks for the humor….
Please comment with suggestions of talking points. What are different reasons I should bring up. Anything else besides for what was listed above?
Wow, thanks for the advice! Goldenkint, can I ask you what Yarmulke your son used to wear, and what he wears now? Why originally did it bother you, but how were you able to see past it and let him make the switch? The main problem, however, is that there are many great Rabbanim and Talmudei Chachamim, especially in Eretz Yisrael who don’t wear a hat. So, how can I show that I should still be allowed to wear one?
@ popa_bar_abba: I was simply restating those words from others which have said them when I have mentioned the hat
Real-brisker: it appears silly because it’s exterior. also, for whatever reason it has a bad connotation. Anyone have any ideas for some “talking points”?
Second of all, I believe that the hat is more than merely association. It can help greatly with kavanah, connection, kavod Shabbos, etc. I want to have those feelings/experiences and I think the hat will help me with that. I know it sounds silly, but I really think it’s true.
Thanks for the help. We associate ourselves with the “modern orthodox” community. However, many people in our community aren’t actually “modern orthodox”. Back to the hat, Rav Soloveitchik ZT”L from YU as well as the current Rosh Yeshiva, Rav Schachter, both wore hats as well. I don’t think it’s that far fetched. Unfortunately, there is a negative connotation with the hat due to how some people who wear it act. I agree totally with those who wrote about “Kibud Av”. It is, after-all a D’oraiysa, so it should be valued tremendously. The question I’m asking everyone though, is how to discuss it in a respectful way. What points/pointers should I bring up? How should I initiate the conversation, etc. THANKS!