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benignuman -“There are no women soldiers in Nahal HaChareidi or Hesder units.”
Tell me also that there are No women on their bases and in their boot camp.
“Please don’t slander the fine soldiers of those units who are risking their lives to protect Yidden.”
Please don’t slander the fine Jews of Klal Yisroel spending their lives learning Torah instead of going to the IDF!
I must give you a dubious award. There are a lot of Zionists that post here, but you are by far the most brainwashed of all the MO/Mizrachi posters here!
benignuman -“I am not “trusting” any Rabbis. I understand the reasons behind the opinion that most Chareidim should serve in the IDF. I don’t understand the reasons behind the opinion that Chareidim should not serve in the IDF.”
I am “trusting” the Gedolim. I also understand the reasons behind the opinion that Chareidim should Not serve in the IDF. I don’t understand the reasons behind the opinion that Chareidim should serve in the IDF.
147 -“That this is an absolute Pesack & requirement, and no-one including these 2 estranged brothers, has any right whatsoever to overrule this correct Pesack.”
This has nothing to do with Satmar nowadays. Why don’t you read ALL my posts?
mdd -“Quite frankly, I am tired of writing the same thing again and again.
And quite frankly, I am tired of reading your same Naarishkeit again & again!
“Da’as Yoichid, it clear from the Gemorah and Rishonim and Achronim that if the Goyim have a fair and reasonable ta’anah on the conduct of the Yidden it is Chillul HaShem.”
So what’s the analogy? Do you consider Not going to the army a Taanah that is fair and reasonable? I don’t and even the guy who started the Medina didn’t (Ben -Gurion). If you say he isn’t around anymore and we the Zionists don’t like his agreements -I’ll say fine – go start your own Medina somewhere like Uganda and only allow Charedim in your Medina that will follow your rules and any rule you decide to make whether it’s a whim or not.
benignuman -“There is a difference between Emunas Chachomim and treating Gedolim as infallible (what do you do when there is machlokes?). Emunas Chachomim means trusting the mesorah and trusting that the Chachomim are acting out of the best of intentions. It does not mean blind faith in what they say. They are not Neviim.”
So why do you trust these MO Rabbis when they say join the Israeli army?!?!?
benignuman -“First of all, the situation today is different then it was in the previous generation. The IDF is willing to have glatt kosher units keeping high standards of halacha. There is no longer an official objective to secularize the members of the IDF.”
You’re right – it’s different – it’s worse.
Btw, they never had an “official” objective to Shmad. Do you even know why people go OTD?
Did you ever hear of Purim? What was the big Aveira in those days – Achashveirosh had a Glatt Kosher party?
“If you don’t understand the reasons behind the ruling then it is dangerous and foolish to apply it to different circumstances.
I am willing to listen, learn and understand.”
This last line I don’t believe for a second. And I do know at least one reason, forget about the women singing which would be enough Not to go, do you even know why they have women soldiers?
I’ll tell you; it’s not because they are Amazon women and are better soldiers, (even though some guy just wrote an article that they are – which I don’t believe), it’s because they are good for morale and I’ll leave it at that.
yytz -“A person approving of toeivah marriage in secular law is misguided, and certainly they should learn this Gemara and its commentaries, but are they transgressing? They’re just an individual with an opinion, which has no effect on the government.”
They are trangressing. It’s called Messiyah L’dey Aveira.
And why do you think this doesn’t effect our politicians/Gov.?
You don’t think the “Frum” guy from the East Side wouldn’t have brought the Toeiva agenda to a vote if he knew his constituents would have him recalled?
Most Jews in America, even the Frum ones, want to be PC. PC is fine as long as it isn’t against Torah. This topic isn’t the time to be PC.
And why don’t you look up the news about Russia that I mentioned above? I’m amazed. You can have a big Goyishe country as Russia and still most of them believe in doing the right thing, at least when it comes to Toeiva.
zahavasdad -“So how do you reconcile that Rav Kanivesky said one should vote in THIS election.”
I wouldn’t even answer you because you’re a Mechutziv; but being not e/o who reads YWN knows Torah, I will. Your posts are like from s/o who became Frum yesterday.
To e/o else – We have real arguments about things in Judaism from real Gedolim and Hashem considers them both as right. Elu V’elu Divrey etc…
mercury -“by the way do you have advice for pregnancy induced sciatica?”
Luckily for you we have a topic already in the CR called “Sciatica”.
Go to that topic. Do you know how to find a topic here?
I posted extensively there.
SB -“also, if my legs are feeling warm when I touch them… what does that mean?”
Forget about everything else, just go to the 3 different Doctors.
yytz -“I’m not in favor of toeiva marriage. But personally I could care less whether my friends and family are. We have 613 mitzvos and Chazal were very detailed in explaining the kinds of middos we should strive for. But nowhere is there a mitzvah or virtue in having the correct political opinion, or convincing others that they’re wrong and we’re right!”
It is – if you can influence them and the political opinion is against the Torah, like here. Ever hear of Tocheiach Es Amesecha?
“It is, however, extremely important to be humble, treat others with kindness, and judge one another favorably. Yet when people are convinced their political opinion is correct, they become very arrogant, are rude to others, and vociferously denounce others who dare to have a different opinion. This is not the Torah way.”
Yes, this is the best way to give Mussar, but sometimes when s/o else is doing something wrong you have to scream even if noone is listening. Why? Because this is called making a Machoh! There are many reasons why people have to make Machohs about things, which I won’t get into now. People screaming about Toeiva are making Machohs!
truthsharer – Naarish. It’s irrevelant who started. The Medina’s existance is based on Charedim Not going to the army!
SB – Like I said, your symptoms look like IBS. If your brother has blood from his digestive system he also needs to see a Gastro.
“What do you think I have? Cancer?”
I’m not the type of practitioner that believes in guessing. I use all available means to come to a diagnosis. Go to a Gastro, tell me his results and then I’ll tell you what I think, whether I agree or not.
ZD -“I guess Rav Kanivesky isnt really a Charedi Rav”
You make the most outlandish false comments and try to attribute them to others!
GAW – This Shaila is Not Nogieah here because on the other side many just follow their father also, like R’ Chaim -the Steipler’s son. Also, there is enough on either side that aren’t related.
anon1m0us – You’re wrong. Most Americans believe in G-d. I think the % was like 85 -90. So they feel guilty that they are meek and don’t stand up to the Militant Toeivaniks and let their politicians vote for their agenda.
By outlawing polygamy -they are able to lie to themselves that they are moral people, even though they allow Toeivaniks and abortions.
mdd -“Da’as Yochid, in times of the Chazon Ish and even later, it was not a Chilul HaShem because the frei and the Mizrachi Israelis did not mind giving money to the Yeshivos.”
This I don’t believe for a second! Why wouldn’t they mind? It’s like saying Americans 20 years ago didn’t mind paying taxes.
Noone wants to pay taxes, ever, they just have to.
Years ago, the Israelis just probably weren’t as vocal about it as they are now, but they never wanted to support Torah learning on a wide scale.
Ferd -“Ossur according to one posek, the Satmar Rov…..and “Health”.”
Just because you’re drunk (Shikur Ferd) doesn’t mean you can lie!
Only one?!?! Let’s see. The original Satmar Rebbe zt’l. The next one zt’l. And the two nowadays. All the Poiskim in Satmar communities.
The Brisker Rov zt’l and all his children – most of them Gedolim.
All the Rabbonim from the Eidah Charedis, from previous generations and now.
And the list goes on and on and on….
So please, let’s be honest.
SB – It doesn’t matter whether you have Health insurance or Not, you need to go to a Gastro. Your mother can pay for it. Like I said previously your symptoms sound like IBS, but you claim there is blood. If there is blood you need to be worked up by a Gastro.
Blood can be from many different causes, not just ulcers, some serious.
benignuman -“Show me a public statement (i.e. one that can be confirmed) by any Torah outsider praising the Chareidi refusal to serve in the IDF, and I will rethink whether or not it is a Chillul Hashem.”
You mean since you have no belief in our Gedolim -you need s/o who you consider a Godol to make such a statement before you believe it. IMHO, this is a Chillul Hashem. Our Gedolim said it’s Ossur to go to the Israeli army. This is from Gedolim from the previous generation. Even if I didn’t personally understand the reason, it’s a Kiddush Hashem to listen to them.
Along comes Mr. benignuman and says it’s a Chillul Hashem not to go to the army. I personally don’t care what you believe and neither do the Gedolim and those that follow them, who said you shouldn’t go to the Israeli army. Why should anyone even try to convince you otherwise?
yichusdik -“For all those who continue to refer to Ben Gurion’s agreement with the Chazon Ish; let’s consider the implications. If you wish to go by the letter of the agreement at the time, it was an exemption from service – it didn’t include the more than $14,000 US per year that kollel learners are currently receiving from the government. So perhaps you are right, and the exemption should be extended. And perhaps the letter of the agreement should be respected, and the current subsidies eliminated. University students who receive similar stipends made their own arrangements.”
You never fail to disappoint me with your twisting of the truth!
You make it sound as the Kollel guys are getting paid for Not going to the army. Nothing could be further from the truth. Most of the money they get from the Israeli gov. is welfare money. Any Israeli can get this money. And if the Israelis don’t like the Charedim taking welfare, let them exempt the Charedim from going to the army, even if they aren’t in Kollel, so they could go out to work!
Leyzer -“There is a very obvious, simple difference which you appear to have missed. Your Chareidi cousins did not willingly/intentionally put themselves into harm’s way, whereas your Tzahal cousins did. The consequences are irrelevant. What we are discussing here is who makes the intentional decision to contribute to the country BiMesirus Nefesh Mamash and who doesn’t.”
Now the truth comes out. You definitely have an agenda, not just wanting to know “why”!
You don’t think Ben-Gurion realized this when he agreed to his agreement that Charedim wouldn’t have to serve in the army?!?!
How come you and all the other Zionists don’t appreciate that there wouldn’t Be a “State of Israel”, if it weren’t for the Charedim? They would have been wiped out by the arabs a long time ago.
It’s Ossur to vote in Israeli elections! Period. End of story.
anon1m0us -“I wonder why this is so? I am not looking at this from a Torah perspective. But for people who state the same gender marriage should be allowed because of love and freedom of choice, why would they prohibit polygamy?”
I don’t know why, but I can guess. The Goyim know they are rebelling against G-d and deep down their conscience is bothering them – so to alleviate their guilty feelings they outlaw polygamy instead of Toeiva.
As a side point, from todays news, Russia is poised to make some Anti- Gay law. Good for them and this shows Goyim can be convinced against this abomination. The Russian Gov. was pressured by the Greek-Orthodox religion.
hardatwork -“Just wanted to bring this post back…now, in the depth of winter, what works for you? I find that after a while, I get ‘immune’ to the classic lip balms like carmax and vaseline. Any suggestions?”
From my post above:
“Chapstix & Blistex are top two brands.”
yeshivish7 -I go to their web page often enough -I don’t need to have Chazaras Hashiur. They already posted this on the main page of YWN.
Because of you I read it 3 times.
SB – Come back in the end of the week and tell me what the Gastro said.
SB – Well go ahead and do it -No more excuses.
mercury -“i am not sure which medicine your refering to that you took while pregnant. my heartburn isnt unbearable its just uncomfortable. either way when i told my dr she said just drink milk (huh!?).”
Now this is an old wive’s tale. They used to say drink milk for heartburn because it’s soothing on the way down, but they found out that Milkfat actually causes more acid to be generated.
But it’s ok to drink a 8oz cup of skim milk even if you have heartburn. It’s funny lots a Docs when they specialize, like Ob, all of a sudden they forget everything they learned in Med school. The mantra of Ob’s is don’t take any medications and this is fine by me, but there is no reason a pt. should suffer because they won’t take any medication for their conditions, esp. if the risk is extremely small and the pt. wants to.
SB -“I know that I need to see someone not connected to my school, preferably in person to, however, I talk to someone on the phone once a week to check in, and my mom pays a fortune for that, I don’t really think having three social workers is a practical solution at this point- nor affordable.”
Listen young girl, first of all, you need to calm down and try to comprehend what I’m telling you. Tell your Mommy, she needs to pay for the things that I’m saying. From my knowledge, your problems aren’t here today and gone tomorrow. You obviously don’t need 3 therapists – I never said that.
You do need to find a good therapist in the city you are now. Forget the one from school and forget the one on the phone. You also need to go to a Psychiatrist in your city for medication therapy. You also need to go to a Gastro Doctor and let him/her decide if you need a workup which would probably include a colonoscopy and/or an endoscopy.
“I just saw a doctor- I thought I was going to see the same doctor as last time, but it turned out to be someone else… she gave me a prescription for fish oil, and basically ignored my symptoms and said she couldn’t do anything about it (which unfortunately as a result of my emotional problems happens way to often), it wasn’t covered by my insurance (obviously) and since I don’t have enough money for it, I didn’t get the fish oil. I feel like it is much cheaper”
Don’t worry about the fish oil -it’s not important. Probably one of those Russian Docs that they have in Israel.
All you have to do is concentrate on the things I just told you.
Perhaps s/o from the seminary can help you, like a teacher.
If you want you can have a teacher post here in this topic to me and I’ll try to answer any questions they might have.
SB -“I can’t really cancel my appointment.”
When you are there ask him/her for a referral to a Gastro and get an appt. right away. Tell the Doctor you want to see one (Gastro) today!
“I do see a therapist, but she is an intern, and to close to my program in terms of involvement for me to gain much benefit from it.”
You need to see a Psychologist that is Not involved with the School. I shouldn’t have to tell you something you already know!
“I am already on anti-anxiety medications, been on them for almost ten years…”
Again you need to see a Psychiatrist to update or change your medications. You’re beginning to make me sound like a broken record.
“Also, these symptoms started three weeks ago, IBS needs it to go on for six months.”
Congrats! I didn’t know you got your medical license. Let the Med Prof., like me, worry about making diagnoses and how it falls under the criteria. You start worrying how to take care of yourself. You can get the help you need, but you have to put in the effort.
JM -“This was directly addressed in my 3rd attempt. Who should we be vocal to? The goyim? It is the job of a yid to educate a goy? Since when? It has always been our duty to separate ourselves form them and their mores, and for good reason. Additionally, there is no way you can claim statistically that if every frum jew voted against, then the STATE ELECTION would have turned out differently.
Please provide me with a proof of such a chiuv to go out and educate the goyim. Also please provide a proof that a yid can get punished due to the actions of a goy.
I dont believe that either exist”
You totally missed my point. I Did Not say go out and educate Goyim, but if you can have power over them -why not stop their Toeiva? And as far as elected officials are concerned, do you really think that the guy running the NY assembly, a “Frum” Jew who’s pro- Toeiva agenda, was really put their by Goyim?!?!
Get your head out of the sand.
“For the past few months it has been bothering me tremendously when I see that frum people and even “Rabbis” blame major catastrophes on same gender unions.”
I’m actually amazed that you wasted months broiling that Frum Jews had the “Chutzpah” to call out Toeivaniks with regarding Sandy.
“Let’s just blame the “others” and make ourselves feel good and righteous.”
Why don’t you practice what you preach? You had nothing else to do all these months but simmer about this? You have nothing that YOU have to work on – that you have to call us out about our beliefs?
superstar -“What I don’t understand is what the school did wrong by not accepting his kids. Every school is entitled to pick and choose which families and what type of students they allow in. And there is a good reason for many schools not to want his family disrupting their school. (No matter if his kids are great or not!) Where I live schools all the time decide not to allow kids in. Or if they do not believe the family if frum enough for the school.”
They can be picky here because there are other Jewish schools to go to. In Belgium, they can only go to public school if the parents don’t want or can’t Home school.
Techina -“Rabbi Shach zt”l stood up when his uniformed IDF grandsons entered his yeshiva, yes the war is on two fronts, so man up and defend them both!”
Let me be nice because of your ignorance about Charedim. Even though R’ Schach zt’l’s grandkids were Zionists, he didn’t hold of that way of life. His son became that way against his father’s wishes. What he held was that the Charedim should learn full time and Not go to the army. Ask anybody who was his Talmid. So to reiterate, one front is fought by the Zionists, whether Chilonim or MO. The other front is fought by the Charedim with them learning full time and Not going to the army!
benignuman -“Health and Kanoi,
However, the Chareidim (other than those in Nachal Hacharedi) are not risking their lives. They have only the upside without the downside. People avoid army service, not because they don’t value protecting Jews, but because they are afraid of death and serious injury.
It is not the learning of Torah Jews that generates animosity, it is the fact that they do not put themselves in a position where they might have to make the ultimate sacrifice.”
Are you saying some sort of Chiddush here? Welcome to reality. When Ben-Gurion said the Frumme don’t have to go to the army – he understood that army guys risk their lives. So why did he do it? Because he knew if there would be a country without people learning Torah and Shomrey Torah & Mitzvos – the country wouldn’t make it past their first war. So fast forward 60 years, instead of the Zionists who go to the army, and their families, whether Frum or not, thanking the Charedim for their existence, they start whining.
Do you want some cheese with that Whine?
SB – I don’t know what you mean by “blood in your stools”? Are you talking about blood when you wipe or actually in your stool?
This is by far the most worrisome symptom. Since I can’t actually examine you, I can’t figure out what’s going on. Anyways, since there is a possibility of a serious diagnosis, because of the possibility of “blood in the stools”, I recommend you see a Gastro Doctor ASAP for a colonoscopy AND a endoscopy. They have to look at the almost the whole digestive system for a diagnosis. So if you’re Not going to a Stomach Doctor tomorrow -you better. If you’re going to a regular Doc, cancel your appt. and go to a Gastro. Anyways the other symptoms sound like IBS, which is treated by a Gastro and a psycholgist and a psychiatrist. Anyways, I feel it would be beneficial for you to see a psychologist for therapy (once or twice a week) and a psychiatrist for anti-anxiety medications, because you have a lot of stress, even if you don’t have IBS. Anyways, either way you have to see a Gastro because IBS is a diagnosis of exclusion.
JayMatt19 -“By blaming those who opt for their gender, we are basically saying “It isn’t my fault!” “There is nothing I need to change! I won’t change! I am perfect! IT WAS THEIR FAULT!!””
While I can’t speak for others, I can speak for myself. I’m one of those who are very vocal against Toeivaniks. My intrepretation of current events was never to diminish working on ourselves, but I think the avg. Frum person doesn’t realize what danger these Toeivaniks are to the Country and even to Frum people. I remember a day when there wasn’t such a thing as AIDS. And you probably remember a day when there wasn’t such a thing as Gay marriage.
Forget about the millions of lost lives due to Toeivaniks (AIDS), how could “Frum” Jews vote for politicians that believe in their agenda? Do you know that there are people who were Frum, but because of these Toeivaniks coming out of the closet and them being exposed to them and their teachings, which some State colleges require, that they have left Yiddishkeit?
So this isn’t just about how bad Goyim are and we are perfect, like you claim, which none of us ever said, but the fact that Frum Jews have Not been vocal enough against these people and have Not voted against these politicians who vote the Toeivah agenda, is what bothers me and many others!
mdd -“It is very crooked to accept and use only those aspects of the Medinah that are beneficial.”
So Ben-Gurion should never have accepted these terms. Obviously he did because he was more intelligent than the Chilonim and the MO/religious zionists nowadays. He actually knew what was really important for the survival of the Medina and that included the Frumme and their full-time learning.
Techina: “I cannot understand the concept of those engaged in Torah learning being disengaged from the world around them, quite the contrary the brave souls form Nahal Haredi, or volunteer in Zaka are closely connected to all of Klal Yisrael. The stigma of how does it look haunts so many haredi communities, breaking away from social expectations and doing the right thing is the action of the brave. Fear of breaking away with traditions which are in themselves only recent minhagim dominate the charedi rabbonim, who politically are busy using imagined slights against Gadolim to canvass opinion against the State as well as each other.”
What you don’t understand is that the Gedolim are basing their opinions on the Torah. It’s the MO community that has broken away from the Torah teachings from Time Immemorial. So it’s the Zionists, including the Frum ones, who have disengaged from the Jewish people, not the other way around. The Torah and the Jews are One!
“in Israel it is important for the morale of the state for all to show themselves willing to make a contribution.”
And the Frumme in Kollel are doing more than their fair share!
“Israel is a young new country and needs all hands on deck to make things work. I have been in Jerusalem when the call up was sent out for reservists, seen orthodox men take their seats on the army buses and charedi neighbours watch them go by, can you not understand the resentment and sense of insjustice people feel. The men I saw being called up had all been to yeshivas for some time, including my own sons.”
The only reason you resent this is because you don’t have a Frum upbringing, only a MO one. You don’t believe that Torah learning protects the Jews in Israel. But it does, probably even more so than the army. A guy once told me after a war, that during a war he was shot and got discharged. When he got out of the hospital he went straight to R’ Schach zt’l, while still in uniform. He told him his story and R’ Schach zt’l responded -“You think the war is fought on one front, it’s actually fought on two fronts -the front and the Bais Medrash!”
SB -“I am only getting up so late because of my stomach pain!”
I’m not going to charge because I’ll be Dan you L’caf Zecus that you’re for real and you need help. Tell me your symptoms and maybe I can help you. I got pain, but that’s it. On a scale of 1 -10, tell me a number with 1 being the least & 10 being the worst possible. Where is it located? Does it hurt all the time? If not, when? Describe it -gnawing, burning, sharp, dull, etc. Does it go from it’s location to the other places (radiation)? Anything make it better? Anything make it worse? Do you take a lot/any of aspirin or ibuprofen or Aleve (NSAIDS)? How often? Any alcohol?
Any Nausea and/or vomiting? Diarrhea or constpation or both? Any blood or coffee grounds in your vomit? Any blood or dark, tarry stools? Indigestion? Gas and/or bloating? Any reflux/heartburn?
What tests did the Doctor do, if any? What medication did he give you and what dose? Does it help the medication? A little bit, a lot, or not at all?
Disclaimer: This post is Not to imply that there is any medical relationship here, only to point out possible medical info, causes, etc., not to diagnose or practice medicine.
From an old topic here in the CR:
“Pac-Man
Joseph
Kesef Mishna brings the Gemora supporting the Rambam in Mesechtes Bava Kama 15:2 not to have a dog in your house.
and Rambam Hilchos Talmud Torah 6:14, and Hilchos Nizkei Mamon 5:9, Chazon Ish on Choshen Mishpat Likutim 18:9.”
purplicious -“health-
whered u get the stink bug from?”
I have lots in my house.
wanderingchana -“The first time I ever saw stink bugs was when we were visiting friends in another city, and when I discovered that I’d brought one home in a suitcase I was creeped out for days.”
I have a lot of these. But I learned to flush them whole, otherwise they smell. But the smell isn’t so bad, so I don’t know why they call them stink bugs.
OneOfMany -“Here’s one for unusual – when I was a little kid, if you asked me what I wanted to be when I grew up, I would have said, “forensic entomologist.””
And what did you actually become?
smartstar -“THANKS ALOT ANY GOOD gastroenterologist IN THE BROOKLYN ,MANHATTEN AREA THAT U KNOW OF THANKS AGAIN!”
Brejt, Henry MD
1353 45th Street
Brooklyn, NY 11219
(718) 435-0876
yeshivish7 -“I would say for most guys that is in the THIRTY range.”
Probably for girl, but a boy even longer. But we still have to get married at 18 -22 because it’s Halacha, mature or not.
In the Chassidish world this is the way it works. Do all parents know better than their kids? No, not always.
benignuman -“I am saying that it isn’t right that only the Chilonim and the Daati Leumi/Mizrachi/Hesder risk their lives in the IDF when the Chareidim get the same protection. The reason the Chareidim avoiding army service bothers so many other Israelis is that they feel that they and their children are risking their lives and the Chareidim are not.”
First of all, how many army guys are actually in harm’s way? More get hurt from inside terrorist attacks than fighting any enemy.
Second of all, Why isn’t it right? The Charedim are protecting them with their learning! Unless you believe in “Koach V’ozem Yodi Osseh Es Hacayil Hazeh”?
SB -“so I sometimes wake up later in the morning than other people would (like 11 am).
by constantly yelling at me why they need to leave me alone a bit more often and let me do my own thing”
I’m actually surprised that all they do is yell; getting up at that time, all the time, is cause for them to chuck you. Start conforming and they’ll stop yelling!
JustHavingFun -“Don’t listen to “Health”; stress can cause myriad troubles ranging from inflammation to sapping you of energy.”
I’ll give you sapping of energy, but Not inflammation. Which alternative medicine book did you pick this one up from?
SB -I doubt you have Gastritis. Gastritis is Not caused by stress that you’re describing.