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when did i ever mention the beis hamikdash in this conversation? There were like 3000 years of life before the beis hamikdash
@Neville ChaimBerlin “the premise you’re basing all of this on is that the Jews should naturally have dark skin”
Well, as far as I can assume the middle eastern climate was always pretty hot, and was harder to get out of the sun back then and people were mostly outside, travelling, bathing, laundry, anything you can think of. So naturally sun makes people pretty dark.
Btw you mention most egyptians and moroccans are not dark? That is absolutely wrong most ARE dark. Even the ones who are light skin usually do not look ashkenaz. Their facial features are different. Also even though not all ashkenaz have light hair and green eyes, pretty much all sephardim do not.
I really dont get how people here cant tell apart an ashkenaz or sephardi based on looks I mean its usually pretty obvious. Not saying anyone is better than the other we jut have different features.
@Joseph-“Frankly, most people couldn’t tell whether a Yid is of German Ashkenazic extraction or of Syrian Sephardic extraction, if both are wearing the same black Borsalino and suit”.
-Uhh rightt…also you do know syrian are not the only sephardi group so not quite sure why you keep bringing up the same exception to the rule.
@Joseph-“And when Moshiach comes they’ll be another cleansing with 80% again being wiped out. The seforim say this”.
-Really? What seforim say 80%? Isnt there also a concept of teshuva? 80% sounds real high. There are also opinions that say the war will not involve Yidden.
Also if there are “millions” more ashkenaz than sephardim, is there a reason for that? I thought sephardim always had pretty big families as well, there were a lot of countries sephardim came from as well as ashkenazim.
@ubiquitin- Trump isnt easliy manipulated as you may think. He has the final say no matter what his daughter thinks. How long did it take him to denounce david duke or any other anti semitic tweets or the likes? Much longer than it should have. When he decides on something he does it.
“I’m not sure why it is so big”
– Because he will be breaking with U.S tradition of not recognizing Jerusalem as Israels capitol for many years, it is a VERY historic move.
“In fact he very well might mention that East Jerusalem will one day belong to the Palestinians”
-How will he announce that if he is recognizing Jerusalem as Israels “UNDIVIDED” capitol?
And regarding status quo, Muslim world said this is a red line so either way it is a big move.
Joseph- Donald also said he only trusts his money counted by “little short guys with yarmulkes”
I mean, I guess you can take it as a compliment?
sorry for typos via phone
Is it also a possibility that there are just more ashkenaz than sephardim in America and the world in general? Therefore greater numbers or looks as if the majority of these things come from ashkenaz?
@mdd you mean the reform inclination? If your reason will help change the pattern then it might be worth hearing.
Guys I know that not every ashkenaz looks like the Aryan race. Whatever it may be, the bottom line is you can pretty easily tell who is sephardim and who is ashkenaz based on how they look. Repeatedly giving examples of exceptions to the fact proves nothing.
Besides why were/are ashkenaz more inclined to reform, intermarriage, sheitels(even though some Gedolei ashkenaz were opposed to) assimilation. I know it can happen on sephardim side as well but they always boast how they were always at least traditional and kept to marrying only Yidden. Do they have a point and if so what is the reason that it is that way?
I guess you’re right Joseph. Ashkenaz are usually not pale white with lighter hair color or different eye color. And sephardim usually not dark skin with dark hair and brown eye color. When you look at it that way then ya you got a good point there buddy. There are no significant difference in skin color or features. After all light pale skin is the same as dark brown skin and blue green eyes are the same as brown eyes. Also light color hair is the same as jetblack. Thanks for sharing your genius with the world.December 5, 2017 6:29 pm at 6:29 pm in reply to: Where can Antartican Jews escape if there is an emergency? #1420584
To an underground igloo
At the hat store?
@joseph you keep giving me examples as if they prove against my point. That’s like saying not all fruits are round a banana is curved or a starfruit has a weird shape. We know there are exceptions I’m talking about the general picture here. Besides your example is pretty weak since polish and Russian are generally pale white with light skin tone and blue/green eyes and are both ashkenaz so I don’t see how that proves anything.
How did ashkenaz come about to have totally different features is it climate? Genes? How did the genes come about if Jews originated in Iraq and around that area? Egypt was pretty hot too.
And why the inclination to reform and assimilation intermarriage? Are sephardim stronger in Yiddishkeit naturally? Even the “less frum” who are “traditional”.
We basically invented sheitels as well which even back in Europe many gedoilim we’re opposed to. Sephardim always wore a head covering and mostly till this day unless they copy ashkenaz traditions.
Ashkenaz is not only Germany medinos ashkenaz refers to area around as well. Besides whatever the reason is I’m talking about the pale skin not just eye color. Was Yosef hatzaddik born fair skin?
Does intermarriage have to do with these Gene’s nowadays?
Why is it also that reform and intermarriage come mostly from ashkenaz. Why is there an inclination to that? It’s embarrassing.December 5, 2017 8:52 am at 8:52 am in reply to: What about American Jews? Where can we escape to in case of emergency? #1418655
Is there a source for that?December 5, 2017 8:46 am at 8:46 am in reply to: Can you change the way people pronounce your last name? #1418653
Never heard anyone call it tar-shay. Maybe they weren’t even reffering to target
Why can’t post???