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  • in reply to: Using an Image of A Rabbi for Shmira #1576975

    icemelter
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    Wow Avi K I’m surprised your comment went through. I don’t even get close to that and my comments get deleted lol.

    Besides yitzyk brings up a good point regarding if it keeps you from sinning. When Yosef hatzaddik was in the midst of a great nisayon, it says he saw an image of his father which stopped him from proceeding. So obviously these things have an affect on us. The only thing is by Yosef it was an image that he saw probably ruach hakodesh or even if it is an image in the mind which is more likely for regular people. But again how can והיו עיניך only apply suddenly to a generation that has pictures, how would it apply to the past thousands of generations that didn’t? Maybe עיניך isn’t literal and can mean the image in your mind? I mean if it’s a Rabbi that you never seen and there are no pictures of them, you would have to imagine how he looked like anyway right? Rashi, Moshe Rabbeinu etc. Maybe it doesn’t even mean how they physically looked but of their essence?

    Also when it comes to pictures it’s one thing to have a picture on the wall to remind you but to start carrying around and take it out every time you are in a situation that you need to daven for, it can become a little tricky.

    in reply to: Ym”s? #1576858

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    @-29 when I reposted I did not “rehash” anything so nothing was missing it wasn’t just a feeling that something was missing. I think your confusing the previous post with the latest post which had no links. Besides if I give you sources and links I’m not sure what you gain by censoring the truth unless you are owned by one of their websites and are scared of them which is what seems to be the case. Good job feeding into their agenda. When there are problems there is a need to point things out, you allow worse comments to go through which half of them aren’t even true and are only brought upon by hate. But when someone actually points out negative truths with sources to back it up you censor them. Interesting. -29 you seem to be very biased and also trying to frame people to look bad by putting in you false “edit” comments in green or any other color. Way to go does it make you feel big about yourself? Nice.

    There was no link, I took out some hateful comments so that I wouldn’t have to delete the whole post. The “negative truths” are not what are being edited, the accompanying hateful commentary that accompany them are not postable. Feel free to stick to objectivity if you would like your posts posted. Otherwise continue ignoring all the warnings you continue to get and they will just be deleted. (I used orange because it definitely makes me feel bigger than green) – 29

    @coffeeaddict- yes but not only, there are other rabbis that they use that term about (BMG past and present generation) and others, ch”v and it is shocking how casually they say it and with such a belief that they feel they are doing a mitzvah by saying that about litvish gedoilim. But it seems ywn agrees with them is anyone missing something here? Why would I mention this if it didn’t bother me? Is this accepted by anyone besides that group to say such horrific things about big Rabbonim? Especially when you orrwch to the world about how much you “accept” everyone? Ywn if your think this causes strife I suggest you look elsewhere to compare. And if it doesn’t bother you how people talk about tzaddikim then we have a different issue.

    in reply to: Using an Image of A Rabbi for Shmira #1576915

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    Laskern- yes but pictures are pretty modern and not everyone had paintings of everyone back in the day. Do you think that pasuk refers to pictures in modern times and skipped all other generations?

    in reply to: Ym”s? #1576623

    icemelter
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    @It’s time- uh I guess? I mean that’s pretty bad but whatever. I mean I would think you shouldn’t say it on gedoilim it seems counterintuitive. Also my post was put out in full not sure what was edited about it? Why write edit but post the original post in full as if I said something wrong lol

    There was a section that was edited out that served no purpose other than to rehash things I already deleted in the other posts. And you are right, it was so not relevant to that post that you don’t even know it’s missing. – 29

    in reply to: Ym”s? #1576565

    icemelter
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    @avi- no I wasn’t referring to you. As far as the ym”s of gedoilim, I was referring to a certain group who casually says it regarding a few litvishe gedoilim but I cannot mention them since the post will not go through. Also within that same group, there was a “rabbi” who wrote a negative piece on Rav Shteinman zt”l, and referenced those terms such as old or mind not clear ch”v.

    I actually tried posting excerpts of the article along with links to prove the validation of my post, but it was not approved by the mods. So you’ll just have to do your own research.

    edited 

    in reply to: Ym”s? #1576466

    icemelter
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    Some say Ym”s about gedolim. Which is pretty sad. Also some say that certain gedolim were too old and their mind wasn’t working well. Also sad.

    in reply to: The world is in a state of Geula- and don’t misunderstand us! #1576335

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    Bitul-“That is very disrespectful and I’m surprised that CR mods allowed such impudence to be publicized. The Coffee Room should not be allowed to be used as a way of advocating an Anti-Chabad agenda.”

    Look who’s talking about disrespectful after bashing every litvish gadol he can in previous topics posted. You cry about the CR as a place for advocating anti chabad? I think the mods enforce the comments even more than they  should.

    Edited – I don’t know how many times we need to edit your vitriol before you understand that it will not be posted. You will not change their website by complaining about it here, perhaps for your own well being you should stop reading it. -29

    in reply to: Shuls in Boca Raton or Hollywood, FL #1574320

    icemelter
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    Nusach plus name of the shul=hashkafa.
    At least sometimes

    in reply to: Why isn't Mashiach here yet? #1563486

    icemelter
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    shlucha-you still didnt answer any of the questions. You also made some strong hints with your previous posts.

    in reply to: Why isn't Mashiach here yet? #1563436

    icemelter
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    It probably wont be such a shock since if we see whoever Moshiach is fighting a physical war and leading us we will probably know who it is and be able to point out”zehu Moshiach”! But ya it would definitely be exciting ; )

    in reply to: Why isn't Mashiach here yet? #1563357

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    shlucha-“It was quite a shock to the family when he was anointed let alone the country’s reaction when he became king. I guess that’s why it took him so long to establish his kingship. If there was such a shock factor when it came to just the ancestor of moshiach, imagine how it’ll be by moshiach himself. ”

    -You mean when the Rebbe gets anointed? And this is why its taking so long because it is such a shock factor? I dont think you couldve been any clearer here. Also where in Daniel does it say that Moshiach will be dead? Theres a difference between concealed or not living.

    Anyway can you just stop forcing this on everyone?

    in reply to: Why isn't Mashiach here yet? #1563359

    icemelter
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    btw shlucha did you ever read this?

    In fact, the Rebbe constantly made clear that he is not Mashiach. In his monumental biography of the Rebbe, Joseph Telushkin devotes a chapter to this question, and writes:

    In 1965, Rabbi Avraham Parizh, an elder Chasid who had been with the movement from the time of the Fifth Rebbe, printed letters stating: “With great joy, we can inform you that King Messiah, for whom we have waited so many years, is already among us. He is the holy Lubavitcher Rebbe, Rabbi Menachem Mendel Schneerson, the King Messiah. His address is 770 Eastern Parkway, Brooklyn, New York. He does not need us to choose him since God has chosen him.” Rabbi Parizh printed up many of these letters and started handing them out in Israel. According to one account, Parizh also distributed these letters by dropping them out of a helicopter.

    When the Rebbe learned of the letter, he instructed his secretariat to immediately dispatch a telegram to Parizh, dated June 24, 1965: “We were shocked by the letter [you wrote and handed out] and ask that you immediately cease distributing it. Gather and send to the secretariat all copies of the letter, every last one, and please confirm immediately that you have fulfilled this instruction.” Chasidim tell how Parizh spent several weeks scrounging around the streets of Tel Aviv looking for every such sheet he could find…

    In 1991, Rabbi Aharon Dov Halprin, the editor of Chabad’s Israeli magazine, Kfar Chabad, wanted to print an article explaining why the Rebbe was worthy of being considered the presumed Messiah. When the Rebbe learned of this he responded sharply, “If you, God forbid, [plan to write] anything even remotely similar, it is preferable that you shut down the periodical completely.”

    In an urgent audience to which the Rebbe summoned Chabad activist Rabbi Tuvia Peles, the Rebbe rebuked those who were making Messianic claims about him, saying, “They are taking a knife to my heart” and “they are tearing off parts of me.”

    … Some months later, and shortly before the Rebbe’s stroke, the Alaska-based shliach, Rabbi Yosef Greenberg (author of Y’mei Bereishit), brought a letter to be given to the Rebbe in which he referred to him as “King Messiah”. Later that same day, Rabbi Groner told Greenberg that the Rebbe had looked at the letter, thrown it down in frustration, and then wrote on it, “Tell him that when the Moshiach comes, I will give him the letter.”

    An even more definitive statement of the Rebbe on this same issue occurred at around the same time. An Israeli journalist, Sarah Davidowitz of the Kol Ha’ir newspaper, approached the Rebbe and said, “We appreciate you very much, we want to see you in Israel; you said soon you will be in Israel, so when will you come?” The Rebbe responded: “That depends on the Moshiach, not on me.” The journalist persisted, “You are the Moshiach!,” to which the Rebbe responded: “I am not”.

    Ok Ok now lets hear all the excuses twisting it all to your liking.

    in reply to: Why isn't Mashiach here yet? #1563368

    icemelter
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    Also doesnt it say (in Rash”i) something about being concealed 45 years? That doesnt fit with the last generation of galus from 20 years ago does it?

    in reply to: Kosher fur #1559300

    icemelter
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    Yitzchokm-anyway thats not the same thing. Just because a farm might graft fruits doesnt mean you cant buy regular fruit from them if you dont want to support grafting.
    The topic I brought up was actually buying fur, not buying a separate product from a fur company.

    in reply to: Reformed Are Jews? #1559238

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    Shimen”yes, plenyt can trace to avrohom, yitzchok etc including my family
    alsp one can trace to to holy gedolim who are know like rashi,
    mabe you cant”

    -pshh what a chashuve yid, surely you are expecting us all to bow down to you? You mention the 3 weeks but seem to know nothing about it.

    in reply to: Kosher fur #1559023

    icemelter
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    @Gamanit
    -Is it problematic to use fur for ones own pleasure and benefit especially since the animals are killed solely for that purpose? I mean how many people eat mink or wolf meat or almost all furry animals which arent cows?

    Yitzchokm”There are many fruits that are grafted from other fruits which is also against torah law. Do you have a problem supporting those Farms?”
    -If its a problem then yes.

    in reply to: Kosher fur #1558624

    icemelter
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    weather too hot for this topic?

    in reply to: Kosher food at Disney World Resort #1558563

    icemelter
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    Gadol-” My golf-club also didn’t allow yidden on the course until the late 1960s. Does that mean I should spit on the first tee every time I play?”

    -Not a bad idea

    in reply to: Kosher food at Disney World Resort #1558508

    icemelter
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    Walt Disney was a notorious anti Semite and also psychopath it turned out.

    in reply to: Beard #1558233

    icemelter
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    There is a famous Teshuva by the Chasam Sofer on the topic. Very in depth.

    in reply to: Reformed Are Jews? #1556280

    icemelter
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    Joseph-probably better not to know

    in reply to: Reformed Are Jews? #1556130

    icemelter
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    zahava- again those stats are outside of ethnic neighborhoods. If you go to each individual polish,russian,spanish,black,white,asian,italian,greek, etc. neighborhoods, im sure youll find the stats to be even lower.

    in reply to: Reformed Are Jews? #1556063

    icemelter
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    Midwest- most Hispanics marry within their own, most blacks marry within their own, most Indians marry within their own, most Asians marry within their own, whites marry whites, Russians marry Russians and many others. The reason is they are attracted to their type because there is much more in common than outside their circles. Usually mixed marriages can have extra conflict due to different cultures.
    Of course there are many exceptions. Especially since most become Americanized, but the issue isn’t whether they speak English or identify with being American. Even after all that many still feel a closeness to their culture and appreciate those values. Going out with all cultures doesn’t count obviously when they date they don’t care what the background is. If they marry they might not care either, but usually they care more.
    And just because you know of cases where chinese women marry white guys, it does not mean that the majority is like that. Actually quite the contrary. If you go into specific ethnic areas you will see majority stay within their own culture. And that is what the majority is, not the scattered exceptions to that.
    All I’m saying is aside for religion, it is more natural for people to marry within their own culture at least the majority. So why should it be any different when it comes to reform or secular Jews who actually believe that the aim should be to marry non Jews?

    in reply to: Reformed Are Jews? #1556030

    icemelter
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    I said mostly


    icemelter
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    Midwest-I think you completely did not get the post.

    in reply to: Reformed Are Jews? #1555430

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    huju-” Some of the attitudes of antagonism toward non-observant on display here are not promoting Yiddishkeit among the non-observant and are in fact destructive, not to mention breaches of many mitzvos. ”

    -I hope you understand that there is a difference between being non-observant and that of proactively and intentionally going against Judaism and Torah and believing that is the correct way. You are aware theres a difference right?

    ” The Lubavitchers have a lot to teach us about strengthening Yiddishkeit and the practice of Torah Judaism.”
    -uhh…right

    -your trying to teach us mussar as if lubavitchers support reform. I think even they know where to draw the line, do you? Or are you saying that by supporting reform we are “strengthening our Yiddishkeit and Torah Judaism”? Youve left me a little confused here.

    Its also funny how it is such an issue with Yidden who believe in assimilation. Aside from the Torah law, it is not even a compatibility religion wise, belief wise, custom wise,heritage wise, upbringing, culture, food and all other natural differences of growing up differently. Even with non-jews you see that usually they marry within their culture. This is very logical since differences cause issues and usually people have an appreciation and pride to their own values.

    in reply to: Reformed Are Jews? #1554900

    icemelter
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    Midwest-““They’re not even Jewish” business is something that’s fairly new, and only seems to have gained popularity with the current “us vs them” mentality that’s crept into our speech in the last 2-3 decades.”

    -the not even jewish business is not a concept, its a matter of fact. If the mother isnt jewish the children are not jewish as we go by the maternal side. So if a Yid ch”v married a non jewish woman, unfortunately those kids are not jewish no matter how jewish they might feel, unless they convert. This is a serious issue and has plagued us throughout the generations. This is why there is an extensive verification of family lineage before one gets married in order to verify they are in fact Jewish by all technicalities.

    As far as the us vs them I usually dont hear anyone in the orthodox circles bring up and compare themselves to reform. Its usually just not even relevant and especially nowadays where reform is dwindling down. Secularism and reform mentality is alive and strong, but it doesnt seem as though so many NEW reform synagogues and “schools” are being built in order to further the movement. I could be wrong though.

    Also I understand that those with reform background, family, and traditions take this matter personally and might get offended. I hope noone here gets offended, but if you are searching for truth then you have to understand that sometimes what you were brought up with no matter how dear it is to you, may have been wrong and has to be changed. According to Torah, we do NOT evolve the laws,and Orthodoxy is not just the right way, it is the ONLY way. It is precisely the fact that we cling to Torah and its values unchanged, that keeps us alive and is the reason we are still here. The slightest change and the only direction is to sink lower .


    icemelter
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    gitmeshige-“Now that I mentioned all of that what has the ” left” and MO done to promote any of the above?”
    -You do understand that there are several levels in Modern Orthodox right? Those who call themselves “modern orthodox liberal” or “Open orthodoxy” are pretty much flawed in their understanding of what “Orthodox” means.There is no such thing as being orthodox but on the other hand doing whatever you want and lowering Torah standards to your liking.
    On the other hand their are many erliche Yidden who just dont fit into any category and dress casual (as in not black and white), and maybe dont wear a black hat on Shabbos so people will view them as “modern” or “modern orthodox”. That does not mean their values are modern at all. Its funny there’s a new term called MO Machmir. But this term is very good way to describe Yidden who fit into this category as I described. They are basically “MO” but “machmir” meaning they are machmir on Torah values and are actually orthodox in their ways. Its basically a lighter version of litvish/yeshivish style (to some extent) just without the label.

    in reply to: Baltimores chassidish community is growing by leaps and bounds!!!! #1554805

    icemelter
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    Akuperma-“Baltimore is cheap (homes in good, safe, frum neighborhoods for under $150K).”

    -theres such a thing as safe neighborhoods in Baltimore? What neighborhood would you compare it to in NYC?


    icemelter
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    so are all communities becoming majority chassidish including the most litvish area lakewood?

    in reply to: ywn account #1553725

    icemelter
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    Daas-“Someone might want to delete an account if they regret many of their posts, and especially if some people know who he really is.”

    He?…..or she?…..

    in reply to: Reformed Are Jews? #1553462

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    Midwest-“How can we possibly appeal to the non-frum to join us if we keep calling them “goyim” and other choice words?”
    -When did anyone call them goyim? Noone here is calling a non-frum jew a goy. Unfortunately, there are jews who wish they were goyim and believe that that is what they should strive for. They live their lives very distant from Judaism and intermarry.

    “This thread is unspeakably offensive to baalei teshuva who are being told that their Reform, Conservative or unaffiliated parents aren’t Jewish.”
    -I dont think anyone can say for sure who is Jewish and who isnt. Noone can really trace their ancestors dating back to Avraham, Yitzchak and Yaakov Avinu. The only thing is that since reform and maybe conservative bring in non jews and have non halachic conversions, things get a little complicated.

    in reply to: Reformed Are Jews? #1553427

    icemelter
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    What a funny title. My original title was “Jews?”. But for some reason someone felt the need to ask Yoda from star wars for a new title name.

    in reply to: Reformed Are Jews? #1553408

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    CTRebbe-“Of course there is a lot that we can do! Step one is to not post ridicoulos discussion such as these for all the world to see.”
    -there are much worse and more sensitive articles posted everywhere so really this doesnt affect much. Besides you are contributing to it with your own thoughts so what does that say.

    ” If you have ever spoken to non-frum Jews (i suspect many commenters here have not) you will hear a major fallacy circulated that frum Jews do not consider them Jewish.”
    -Even if that were to be true, the real issue isnt what the frummies consider them its what they consider themselves. Most of these Jews in name only want the farthest thing to do with their own Judaism which they are embarrassed and ashamed of.

    “For all those in this coffee room that say “kol yisrael arievim…” only applies to frum Jews, would you also say”
    -So you still havent answered the issue brought up by that. How can we be responsible for actions of “Jews” who hate that fact and loathe their own religion?
    And you have exclaimed your first step of not posting such articles, but what is the second step which is hopefully a more productive solution?

    in reply to: Reformed Are Jews? #1553380

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    Akuperma-“Furthermore, due to the American custom of women adopting the husband’s surname, it means that the people with “Jewish” names are the least likely to be Jewish. ”
    -I get what your saying by not to assume someone with a (very) Jewish name to automatically be jewish but why would they be the least likely to be jewish? Many Jews also have Jewish last names.
    I guess your speaking of women in particular since most likely a jewish non orthodox woman would marry a non jew resulting in a non jewish last name, while it isnt likely that she would marry a Jew therefore the woman who did marry a Jew and isnt Jewish, inherited the Jewish last name. But that system isnt fool proof and might only work for one generation since who knows if some of the children might marry Jewish.

    “Among Eastern European Jews, the movement towards assimilation began only in the late 19th century, so it is easier to trace. ”
    -Are you saying there was no chance of any assimilation before that time?

    ” Asking what to do about assimilation today makes no more sense that asking what to do about the holocaust — it’s done, it’s over, its history, and we need to live with the consequences.”
    -Not exactly since this is a different generation and this isnt exactly something that is “over with” it is something that is “ongoing”. The source of it is historic yes, but the result is playing out in the present times in which we live in and it must be stopped since it is the biggest threat to the Jewish people. The problem is there might not be a natural way of stopping this problem.

    But again the question is does Areivim apply in this case in regards to all the “Yidden” on the totally wrong path? Other than the chilul Hashem and confusion they cause are we responsible or held accountable for their actions since they are Yidden as well? When you look at the Eirev rav that left Mitzrayim with Bnei Yisrael, most of the problems that we suffered were a result of their actions. Is this the same case?

    in reply to: Reformed Are Jews? #1553378

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    TGI-“Concluding, I don’t believe they have a future, I don’t believe they are or want to be part of what Judaism has to offer. ”
    -Its interesting though how they have lasted for so long and how far back they go. They do have a lot of money within their communities I guess thats the only thing keeping them up since I’m pretty sure its not their Torah values.

    ” Many students told me that religion is something nice to believe in and something to study as an academia, but they don’t believe in the Torah or in a G-D. ”
    -Its interesting when people say Judaism and Jewish works are nice to study as academia but they dont believe in the religion, when all the Jewish works by great Rabbis are based on pure belief from generation to generation. So how can they believe someones work which is based on belief but also not believe in it? Probably they never thought of it that way.

    in reply to: Reformed Are Jews? #1553036

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    Akuperma”A fairly high percentage of non-Orthodox Jews are actually goyim with Jewish ancestors”
    -really there’s no way you can be certain of that or even assume. Technically you can say the same about frum Jews who might not have been Jewish a few generations ago. There’s no way to know for sure. Aside from displaying the 3 characteristics that define a Yid, you are very limited as to how far back you can trace any Jewish connection.

    ” There are also shailohs since many hold that their marriages were valid, but their divorces weren’t, and children of remarriages are mamzerim.”

    – again can’t that be the case with anyone? Who knows what happened down the line?

    What’s regarding the conservative Jews? Are they just Yidden that went off the derech so to speak or a consequence of the haskala movement? Is being conservative better than reform or is it essentially the same thing as both are digressions of the correct path?

    “A fairly high percentage of non-Orthodox Jews are actually goyim with Jewish ancestors.”

    -Are you putting non frum Jews in the same category as reform? Reform is an actual belief and accept non Jews while being traditional does not mean you believe in the reform ways most likely they believe in the orthodox way of doing things except they aren’t observant.

    in reply to: Reformed Are Jews? #1552952

    icemelter
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    @mods-just to put it out there, my title was simply “Jews?”
    Not reformed are Jews? Not sure why it was changed but whatever no big deal I guess.

    Rebyid-“Maybe if we start realizing that Republicans and Democrats both do not represent Torah values, political differences won’t matter as much.”

    – it’s not about the political affiliation it’s what they stand for and their general principles.

    Areivim only counts for frum Jews? So where do you draw the line between a severe OTD or just a simple Jew who doesn’t know much but maybe keeps a tiny percent of the religion?
    Probably we should daven for them, and when I say them I’m not just talking about reform Jews, that was not my original title, I mean anyone who is Jewish and seemingly not connected at all. For example many actors and actresses who are jews by name only in which almost 100% of the cases marry goyim which is such a shame. You can’t really blame them that is the world they are in and it makes no difference to them whether it’s a yid or not, but it’s painful to know that it’s the case and there is just not much that can be done about it but weep and daven. That goes for the majority of non frum Jews in America (mainly) and in the world as well. They see no benefit or difference in marrying a Yid or in fact would rather not marry a yid since they are usually ashamed of their Judaism. To be honest it seems that there’s a better chance of Jews being at least traditional outside of the USA rather than those who reside here.

    When we say that if klal yisrael would keep 2 shabbosim then Moshiach would come, or anything else that is connected with klal yisrael as a whole, teshuva etc. are we only counting the 15-20% who are frum? Because any other scenario than that is just not realistic at all.

    in reply to: Is it muttar to block illegal driveways? #1552966

    icemelter
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    Isn’t it illegal to block your own driveway as well? Seems pretty ridiculous I think you need to get a permit to park on the street blocking your own legal driveway. Makes somewhat sense if you aren’t using your driveway why do you have one, but on the other hand it doesn’t make sense I mean what is it if you don’t park in your driveway then that mean noone can use the spot including yourself? Why not there’s no parking regardless of if someone is in the driveway or not so why is it an issue? I think traffic cops can time let you for it. I’m not sure if they only ticket if it’s pointed out or automatically if they see a car blocking a driveway.

    in reply to: Reformed Are Jews? #1552963

    icemelter
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    @1-ya but don’t we also say kol yisrael yesh lahem chelek? Also can a yid be a rasha? In their core essence?

    in reply to: Illegal fireworks #1552609

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    Joseph-“Laws are meant to be broken. Do you never cross the street when the light is red?”
    -Thats kind of a grey area though.

    in reply to: The world is in a state of Geula- and don’t misunderstand us! #1552533

    icemelter
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    coffeeaddict- “Just wondering, have you ever been to a frabengen and heard that (I have never been to one so I don’t know”

    -Yes, coffeeaddict, and yes to the rest of your questions. Exactly, you havent been around them enough so thats why you dont know and buy into their propaganda of how everyone is out to get them. I dont blame you though. I wish this werent the case, but yes, I do know this personally and have been close enough to experience all of that. I think most people who are aware of this know exactly what I am talking about.

    But when you point out these bad characteristics you are labeled, a hater, a snag, a sonei lubavitch, chabad hater, misnaged, worthless litvak, and so on you get the point. Also take note that I did not attack, merely pointed out their faults. But you just cant win.

    in reply to: The world is in a state of Geula- and don’t misunderstand us! #1552522

    icemelter
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    coffee addict-“Really, what do you gain from knocking Lubavitchers?

    What’s all this “chabadniks” and “you guys””””””

    -Really what do lubavitchers gain from knocking Litvishers and Satmar and everyone else for that matter?
    Whats with all this “snags”, “misnagdim”, “yoilys”, whats with all these topics on if its ok and encouraged to laugh and mocks Litvaks as if its actually a debatable matter,
    non-stop articles on chabad sites portraying all non chabad Yidden in a bad way, only posting non chabad articles if it pertains to something negative-with such hateful comments that will make you puke (in case you thought the comments here were bad),
    “farbrengens” also known as bash fests filled with challenges of how many times you can mention the word misnagdim and say that they have nothing in their lives and that their Torah is worthless since they “dont have chassidus”, criticizing those “filthy Satmar Ungars” for trying to invest in real estate near the vicinity of crown heights and trying to “destroy” lubavitch, articles bashing Litvish Gedoilim from past to present, belittling the GR”A calling him by his first name, comparing the Chazon Ish Torah knowledge to that of a little chabad boy learning Tanya and saying they are on the same level of greatness, Saying Yimach Shemo on a Litvish Gadol who they cant get enough of berating, playing both the victim when its convenient but also attacking and ridiculing EVERYONE else who isnt like them (in the frum world), the list goes on and on should I continue? I mean seriously, “whats with all that”?

    in reply to: music ringtones during the 3 weeks?! #1552105

    icemelter
    Participant

    Oy ma haya lanu

    in reply to: The world is in a state of Geula- and don’t misunderstand us! #1552002

    icemelter
    Participant

    CS-“This one was about how the world is ready for the Geula – and all input is welcome, not just Chabad.”

    -with all due respect, those who read between the lines know that your main motive for opening this thread is to prove chabad to be correct. “Dont misunderstand us”, already you made it about yourself so you arent fooling anyone by playing the double sided card as is so often used whenever you guys bring up any topic. Like, “ya everyone chime in we respect everyones opinion even though (secretly) only the chabad opinion counts but ya lets hear it great”! ; (

    Closing statement from your opening post-“So that’s what we mean when we say the world is ready for the Geula or the world is in a state of Geula.”

    -uhh….ok? So do you want a medal for that? What other response were you looking for other than “oh ya you guys are right about everything including this one, good job guys you’re the best”!
    I mean, really now. Did you expect everyone to shout kiddush lubavitch! or the like?

    in reply to: Communities #1550954

    icemelter
    Participant

    “What year do you think this is, 1870?”

    -uh, no…it’s called renting a room in an apartment or more likely a basement in boro park. Yes it sounds about right.

    I know people who rent out a basement for $800 a month so a room is usually cheaper than that.

    in reply to: Is it muttar to block illegal driveways? #1550951

    icemelter
    Participant

    It’s an aveirah to break a traffic law? I’m not sure it’s an aveirah to not fully stop at a stop sign or to reverse through a one way street. Maybe only to save you from a fine but pretty sure it’s not an aveirah.

    Even the laws aren’t always enforced it depends on the circumstance and the officers mood.

    in reply to: Is it muttar to block illegal driveways? #1550782

    icemelter
    Participant

    Daas-“They have no more right to their illegal driveway than you have to the spot in front.”

    -youre right. I was thinking if it was a legal driveway, sometimes people block it if noone is inside. But even with illegal driveway youre still taking a chance of getting your car scratched if the owner doesnt see it as an illegal driveway.

    in reply to: Is it muttar to block illegal driveways? #1550765

    icemelter
    Participant

    yitz-“If someone’s there, I wouldn’t do it. I’m not sure it’s mutter to inconvenience someone that way. ”
    -Oh but its ok to inconvenience someone if they might want to pull IN to their driveway. Good to know.

    in reply to: Golus & Cultural assimilation. #1550501

    icemelter
    Participant

    Zahava-“I belive rashi was a wine dealer”
    – Rashi made and sold wine for parnassah. What does that have to do with conducting or attending wine tasting “events”? Keyword, event.

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