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‘Rabbi’of Berlin, SAYS;
this whole story is a fairy tale and , regardless whether a rebbetzin told the tale or that she mentioned Rav Kanievsky’s name (who did not comment upon the lenght of the coma,btw), it is a story for the gullible. Hakodush boruch hu does not make miracles to please “nam
YOU dont know that for a fact and ADAMANTLY claiming that its a fairlytale is CERTAINLY not your right to say, MR. Berlin! The interesting point here as that the other posters are just challenging THIS part of the story, yet YOU deny the whole thing WITHOUT even giving credit to the fact that lack of JEALOUSY saved this girl from deteriorating (as Rav Chaim pointed out) YOU ARE A KOIFER, my friend!
THNIK BIG hit the target. The point of the story was not impressive to anyone here who had a problem with the length of the coma(sadly). Instead of being in awe about the basic facts, you constantly harp on, the side issue.
Very well said!
Have you ever attended an evening where a famous speaker adressed the public?
MOST of the time you will not hear him telling a story while including the ‘name, rank and seriel number’ of the subjects involved. That doesnt mean the story aint true!
Furthermore, if Rebetzin Miller mentioned that name of Hagoan Rav Chaim KANIEVSKY IN CONNECTION TO THIS STORY, you can be sure it happened. But then again, ‘ONCE a NON BELIEVER, Always a NON BELIEVER’!July 31, 2008 1:23 pm at 1:23 pm in reply to: Out Of The Mailbag: (Flatbush Kiddush: Tznius & Drinking Out Of Control) #1142544
Now are you…..
So ‘Kol Kevudah……’ DOESNT apply in the figurative sense at all,,??? A woman’s middos are not relevant to this AT ALL? It ONLY means that a woman should not spend too much time outdoors????
Verify that please…..
Please do a ‘simple internet search’ on how long a corpse can remain buried before it deteriorates. I doubt you will be able to establish that the RIGHTEOUS dont decompose . However thats what WE believe.
I dont think you have a problem with THIS particular story. Had the coma lasted 35 years and HAD been recorded, you would have doubted that the body remained in tact because a ‘simple google search ‘ wouldnt have confirmed it.
It says ‘Vohavto is HaGer’ 6 times!
Its also a fact that for 10 generation, ITS FORBIDDEN TO remind someone that he was once a Gentile.
On the other hand, apparantly when one decides to convert, its an obligation to PURSUADE HIM NOT TO. Can someone please elaborate on the contradictions?July 31, 2008 4:50 am at 4:50 am in reply to: Out Of The Mailbag: (Flatbush Kiddush: Tznius & Drinking Out Of Control) #1142541
‘when a person comes up to bais din shel mayla, all the excuses fade. this is one of them – no one ever died of dressing modest, and women have no reason to be outside all day anyway; kol kevudah bas melech penima……
TOTAL RUBBISH! Its a fact that the only three people who will not be exscused are:
1.Someone who was oiver on ‘Hamalbin Pnei Chaveiro Birabim
2.One who used a nickname while referring to a fellow Jew
I dont remember the third one , but the point is that with every other transgression, one will be able to compromise and negotiate his Din Vichesbon in exchange for Mitzvohs that he did!
I heard this at a shiur once given by Rav Avraham Twersky I think it was.
The Big one,
Maybe I overreacted but can you please bring a Mikor ? I dont think ‘Kol Kevudah Bas Melech Penima’refers to the literal aspect. I think it can also apply to a woman’s midos vs. the outside…if I am not mistaken
ACTUALLY, I know recall she said the story happened somewhere in Austria.
‘I’m not denying that God has the power to make it happen,,,,,,,
How admirable of you! But now that we both agree that G-d rules the world, he obviously didnt want this story to be publicized in the Guinness Book of records, and frankly, thats why you havent heard of it!
So YOUR still calling it an Urban Legend while a reputable Rebetzin confirms it!
Sorry pal, I think i’ll go along with Rabbi Herman’s grandaughter!
I REPEAT or rather follow up;
If G-d wants something to happen which exceeds the natural, IT WILL HAPPEN . The fact that you dont know about it, doesnt make it untrue!July 30, 2008 7:20 pm at 7:20 pm in reply to: Out Of The Mailbag: (Flatbush Kiddush: Tznius & Drinking Out Of Control) #1142539
That can very well be! I’m sure you are better informed in these details than I am.
However, I can proudly say that after my time, when I will be questioned on this issue, I will certainly feel very comfortable excusing myself with regard to this particular ‘transgression’ !
Oh and Mr. Musings,
If the Almighty decides that he wants someone to be in a coma for over 70 years, thats exactly whats gona happen;))))))) ‘Record Shmecord…..
I don’t believe the story and want to see proof.
Nothing personal, but I’ve read a lot of your comments and sad to say, there are alot of things ‘you dont believe’ and I’m sorry for you.
But for the record, I heard this story at a shiur recently given by a Rebetzin who happens to be the granddaughter of Reb YY Herman, the subject of the book ‘All for the Boss’,,,,,
Reliable enough???July 30, 2008 5:30 pm at 5:30 pm in reply to: Out Of The Mailbag: (Flatbush Kiddush: Tznius & Drinking Out Of Control) #1142536
Matisyohu28, are you sure its not MATISYAHU82AND GETTING SENILE,,,?????
Reread my post! I never implied that other Mitzvos are unimportant Chas Visholom, all I am saying is that when it comes to tznius where women are concerned, men tend to forget ‘LEFUM TZAARAH AGRA! The harder the mitzvah, the bigger the schar,,,So dont take us for granted please,
Oh and you say:
and women have no reason to be outside all day anyway,,,,,
SICK, Sick Sick!!!
For the record, I am out a lot, driving people to hospitals, visiting old age homes and
very often taking people who cant afford a txi to airports, ,,,,,,,
I wrote a post in response to your question and for some reason it didnt make it to the board,,,,,,
But on the subject of ‘questioning Rabonim’, are you aware that many Gedolim prohibit the use of the internet?? (due to tznius issues, which YOU CLEARLY want to improve,whichis obvious in all your comments on thissite)
Atleast ‘I’ am only seeking answers, YOU are too ‘holy’ to question them, yet in this case, TOTALLY contradicitng them,,,,,
Can you please elaborate on your double standard here?
Besides, the only reason these Takonos were made was becasue the Chinuch is apprantly distorted. My point was, that if everyone were taught to be happy with their lot , these restrictions would not be neccessary!
Your right on the money! I cant beleive this, lol!
I know how unpleasant it can be when your left without cleaning help and I really feel for you. But Honestly, May you never ever be plagued with anything worst in life!!!
She was 17 when the accident happend but since the day she was 12, she was never jealous of anyone.
Apparantly its brought down somewhere that one must give Kovod to a Rich man!
Thats exactly what the Gedolim DO, whether they adhere to the takonos or not. Rabonim WILL attend a wedding and keep a kesher with those even if they dont always stickto these rules, so I think my question is quite valid!
When was the last time you heard a RAV say he will not be misader kiddushin at a wedding unless he is assured by the baal simcha that everything will be within the bounderies of the takanos???July 29, 2008 4:18 pm at 4:18 pm in reply to: Out Of The Mailbag: (Flatbush Kiddush: Tznius & Drinking Out Of Control) #1142520
‘A Kasheh oif a Maaseh’
Get me a tznius barometer and I’ll try to be a specific as I can….lol!
I see your quite new to YW. I remember joing this site about over a year ago and it was simply unbearable. The insults and attacks were totally out of control.
What you read now is ‘gold’ compared to then. Lets just give everyone a ‘yoshar Koach’ for
improvement and lets hope it will continue to remain civil.July 29, 2008 4:40 am at 4:40 am in reply to: Out Of The Mailbag: (Flatbush Kiddush: Tznius & Drinking Out Of Control) #1142516
I dress Balabatish, trendy and fine and NOT frumpy!
Always adhering to the FULL tzinius code!
The Littigant DID tell the Rabonim that they were conteplating taking their parents. Apparantly they encouraged him to pursue it unless the parents refused to go which was the case.
I am aware of what happened as much as I possibly can be, it was a very very close friend.
As far as i know, the story I wrote about, I am almost 95 per cent sure that THIS WAS NO MISTAKE, frm whats being talked about, the parents were fully aware that they were deceiving
one of their children in the hope that it would never leak!July 28, 2008 5:14 pm at 5:14 pm in reply to: Out Of The Mailbag: (Flatbush Kiddush: Tznius & Drinking Out Of Control) #1142511
No one said tznius should be disregarded, dotn drei a kop! I just think the logic goes both ways. A man should busy himself on HIS side of the mechitzah and nothing will lead to hirhur!
Furthermore, if women would start dressing like Reb Arele’s Chassidim, imagine how many fo their husbands would start having roving eyes Chas Visholom.
Vchai bohem means you should ‘live with the mitzvos your doing and try to make it as pleasurable as possible.
You say:.those men who wear short pants usually their wives wear pants ,also shott ones and sleeveless so whats your …..
Please refer to comment nos. 119 ‘out pf the mailbag,July 27, 2008 7:09 am at 7:09 am in reply to: Out Of The Mailbag: (Flatbush Kiddush: Tznius & Drinking Out Of Control) #1142506
ATTENTION MY FELLOW B’NEI TORAH,
As a woman reading these letters and skimming through these comments , I cant resist but speak in our defense;
YES, tznius is very importand and it is the crown and glory of every Jew. However, did any of you men realize what a nisoyon this is for us? Do you know what it means to walk the streets in 90 degrees following the basic tzinius code, smeltering away in a sheitel(even if its a nice one), long sleeves etc? Stop hacking abnout the styles for heaven’s sakes.
The Torah says ‘Vchai Bohem’ we dont have to make our lives more difficult. Ofcourse a man cant fathom what its all about because they can comfortabley roll up their sleeves, walking around in short pants during vacation time is not the end of the world and their is no complete head covering which can give you terrible migraines in the heat.
Mi keamcho BNOS YISROEL??
Furthermore, what right do men have to inspect other women to the point where they realize there is a tznius problem?? Focus your attention on where its proper for you and try to understand that MOST FRUM WOMEN TRY THEIR BEST!!
As important as Tznius is, it is NOT one of the three Amudim, thousands of women dressed in the most modest manner didnt stop the Bais Hamikdosh from burning!!!
Why are people not critical about the lack of Ahavas Chinom? We are in the three weeks now, please lets concentrate on basic derech eretz.
There was an incident recently at a shtiebel which really shocked me.
A little boy ran out in the yard to play during ‘laining’ on Shabbos. Meanwhile , an elderly man noticed his seat was free and went to sit down. When the child came back and noticed that his seat was taken, he told the man that he was sitting in HIS seat. A minute later, the father of this little boy passed by and said’ Yes, reb yid, this is my boy’s seat, please find somewhere else to sit’
In my humble opinion, the lack of chinuch is a MAJOR issue people dont pay enough attention to. Lets put our priorities in order…July 25, 2008 6:10 am at 6:10 am in reply to: Shiduchim, Is giving perfect information always the best solution?? #620271
JOSEPH Iis right!
Its defintily not so clear that telling the truth is always obligatory!
Nothing beats that (besides my cooking ofcourse)July 24, 2008 9:18 pm at 9:18 pm in reply to: Shiduchim, Is giving perfect information always the best solution?? #620265
Your story is much appreciated.But I fail to see how its related to mine.
The point I wanted to make was that PERFECT is not always PERFECT.
I would love to inspire all the young people out there who might feel insecure because of any specific drawbacks they might have. There is someone out there for everyone , if only people would realize that 2 families with faults can be as compatable and as happy as those who perceive themselves as perfect!
they practice up to a point and when things interfere they do what they want! Jews dont choose according to convenience!
True, Catholics and other feel that their religion is superior. The question is to they VALUE their practices the way we do?
I truly feel that other denominations(besides may Muslims who’s sense of loyalty to their religion is similar to ours) pr
We are ‘Bayshonim, Rachmonim and Gomlei Chasodim, we are Maaminim Bnei Maaminim,
Which other nation in the world would endure what we have endured all these years and still remain true to their creator?
MI KEAMCHO YISROEL’July 8, 2008 4:09 pm at 4:09 pm in reply to: Out Of The Mailbag: (Cautionary Story About Hotels) #650060
What is the point of this article if the writer cant disclose the name of the hotel,
Is the point to warn us or to have people wrongly assume?