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Yserbius- Im not understanding your moshul since noone is denying/disputing the cause of illness (for the most part). The dispute is whether it came from a lab or not. And again “bioweapon conspiracy”, not such a conspiracy since countries do work on bioweapons . Difficult to believe China would release this to the world intentionally especially without a way to stop it (although its possible), but rather more likely it slipped out of a lab or was injected into animals and then sold to markets.

Im not asking anyone to take my opinions without evidence. All I said is that it is too early for “evidence” to surface but America and likely other nations are looking into the matter. Im also not saying it is for sure from a lab, im saying it likely is based on the nature of this virus and China’s attempts at hiding it from the world and misleading everyone with intentional misinformation. Not to mention the killing of Chinas doctors who tried warning the world.

nomesorah-Im not saying we need to do anything. If the world finds out this was created in a lab then they will obviously make them face the consequences. You are all forgetting the original header here, “Event 201”, led by Bill Gates and crew who have been speaking for years about depopulation, depopulation through vaccines, prepared this event 1month before it broke out in China highlighting almost everything that played out to this point, and all the other shady things they have been working on behind the scenes all the years.

Not to mention Fauci’s warning in 2017 about a pandemic in Trump’s term, Gates warning in 2015 and so on. Bill gates, Jeff Bezos, Fauci, license-less Birks and many more evils of this world more than anyone knows. Just look up some of the past things these bunch were involved in especially stopping scientists who were close to finding cures for certain diseases and shutting them down.

Ubiquitin you either think you are funny or your intelligence level is just lower than we all assumed. There have been talks about this being lab made from day one. Interesting why China tried covering it up from the world and killed all the doctors who tried to warn everyone until it got out of hand. It’s also interesting how it targets specific age groups. I think your tin foil hat is blocking your already thick skull from information. Maybe take it off for a few minutes?

Yserbius”There still hasn’t been one lab confirming that the virus is man made.”

So still a conspiracy? Even after the secretary of state said it’s most likely the case evidently?

ubiquitin-“no not strange. Pandemics are not that rare. you say “but not on this scale” true, but he didnt predict the scale”

-scale or not, its funny how there were so many “warnings” before Trump took office and during, while before then we never heard of such a word as pandemic. Definitely not under Obama. And btw the mock pandemic meeting aka “Event 201” which conveniently took place a month or 2 before news from China broke out, coincidentally dealt with a pandemic on this scale or even greater which they hoped for. Oh what a hero Bill Gates is now pretending how he would like to save people lives while nervously laughing each time he hears or says the word pandemic or death to his delight. Same person who spoke about depopulation for years via pandemic and vaccines. You can try to act as smart as you want, but many things have been occurring and being handled in a way that raises one’s eyebrow. Do some research, maybe you’ll learn something.

“wait a minute…. you were one of the first I heard to say it was man- made. so if in fact it turns out to be man-made this PROVES you had a hand in it.
There is no other possible explanation. you are clearly behind all of this”

-There is a difference between “warning” (hinting) about a pandemic before something happens and speculating or investigating an occurrence “AFTER” it happened.

ubiquitin- ya but not on this scale, those were more like outbreaks than pandemics. What reason would there be to believe there would ever be a pandemic? There hasnt been one since the spanish flu and even then it wasnt worldwide. If this was made in a lab then obviously that changes everything and makes the scenario of a pandemic more likely to happen.. But just a naturally occurring pandemic suddenly? What reason to think it should happen?

If in fact this was lab-made, many of those who “warned” us even years in advance surely had a hand in this.

“RW: Why are you afraid of others knowing what you do?

Unless you’re doing illegal or inapp6 stuff.”

Ok Joseph the next time you go use the bathroom just leave the door open. Also the next time you are having a conversation with someone record it and share it with everyone you know. Also when you are changing record yourself and share with everyone online. Is that “innapropriate” and “illegal” enough for you to rather keep those things private?

Most predictable comeback, i thought you were smarter than that.

Joseph, thats the first reason that yidden might think of. But just because Hashem knows everything about us doesn’t mean people want others to know as well. Are you comfortable with anyone knowing every step you take throughout the day or every conversation you have?

so how did they “know” about the “next pandemic”

Gadol and yakov. I can understand the disblief. I know that the world is made up of tzaddikim and it’s hard to accept that these things can happen.
You want sources? Check event 201 on YouTube you will see the whole recorded meeting that took place in October 2019. See their “predictions” which played out so well by these “prophets”. Check out bill gates on depopulation. Check out bill gates Ted talk in 2005 on the next pandemic. See his nervous laugh when he talks about people dying and about past epidemics such as ebola.
Read up on it. Read people’s comments.

Again I said I’m not a conspiracy theorist. What a coincidence however that they had this meeting on how unprepared the world is for the next pandemic and boom, less than 2 months later it unleashed.

And many have said it’s a conspiracy theory that this came out of a lab. Many are starting to see that it’s not such a conspiracy. Even china themselves have tried to pin this on the US army “bringing the virus into china”. How do you “bring” a virus if its not contained in some vile?

And to shut down the world economy and do more damage in 1 week than all the years of a broken economy? To shut people down in their homes and make them tear each other apart like savages over toilet paper?

Noone coming out to calm the people about how America has an abundance of supplies or the fact that many who got the virus also recovered. No, the only numbers they show are the ones who contracted it as to leave an impression that it ended there.
Di Blasio admitted that with more testing we will confirm more cases. “Nothing to panic, it’s a fact since testing will confirm that people have it doesn’t mean they didnt have it already”. But suddenly he uses the escalating cases to frighten everyone that we can only compare the situation to the great depression and that we must lockdown.

Interesting way to de-escalate all the panic which the media and “leaders” have been doing a great job at. Again I never said there isn’t a virus. Swine flu existed as well.

Most will either cleverly hide or give vague information on their products, but even the ones that do advertise grown in USA who’s to say you can trust it?

Cbdistllery which is much cheaper than the others and considered to be effective advertises as made in USA and lab tested for potency and purity.
But again how can you believe any of these companies?
I know Charlotte’s Web is considered trusted but you can check YouTube reviews for all 3 I’ve mentioned and seems they all have good reviews,which again can be biased so who knows.

Question is if Charlotte’s Web is charging more just becaue they know they have a good name and are trusted. As it is cbd oil is highly overpriced. Of course if it’s effective it is worth it but it still is overpriced currently.
Charlotte’s Web 500 mg goes for 74.99 while Cbdistllery 500 goes for 30. Spruce is also 74.99 but for 750 mg.
Aside for those there are a few other high caliber companies in the same category and level, with similar price range plus or minus.

These 3 happen to appear on many top lists. But again so many companies to choose from even those that are considered premium product.

Still what a coincidence. Not saying it’s Moshe Rabbeinu, but could be symbolic

Btw how is it ok to still use plastic garbage bags? If they aren’t biodegradable then what’s this whole issue about?

Are paper bags all natural? Do they not contain any chemicals?

Meno-“A few months ago I went to a Home Depot in Connecticut and they didn’t give bags so I walked out juggling a miter saw and a few pieces of hardware.”

Meno did you also purchase a few LEDs while at it? ; )

Anyhow there is the loophole since it says they can’t offer non reusable bags. So basically they can still distribute free plastic bags just use a slightly thicker plastic which would qualify. I’m sure many department stores will do that.

For all the past business owners saying using paper bags worked great, just know that most businesses are upset at this change since paper weighs a lot and will cost them much more to order to the store. The fact that trader Joe’s uses paper is because they are an extreme liberal mentality as can be seen by the shoppers there. Extreme left wing save the whales type. So for their agenda it’s worth getting these paper bags to offer. But they don’t seem cheap they are pretty heavy paper. Doubt most businesses will want those. And besides even thought they have handles the handles rip with anything heavy inside and paper is more prone to tearing in general.

With plastic you can just double bag and it can carry a lot of weight. Bottom line is they can just use biodegradable plastic. But they don’t want to. They would rather cut down more trees and use paper. What sense?

Billywee
We used to also not have traffic lights why don’t we revert back to those times? Certain things were made in order to speed things up and make lives easier. Going backwards is simply going back to more difficult ways.

Btw what happened to save the trees?

@Just me- aside for speed limit and cameras at every corner, they are trying to put tolls on all bridges into and out of Manhattan and will likely get their way. And noone can do anything about it. New Yorkers aren’t stigmatized as rude and neurotic for no reason. This city does its best to make them that way.

And to all those saying you can carry a bag with you. Look, idk about you but most people don’t feel like carrying around a bag like a homeless everywhere just in case they need to visit the store to pick a few things up. And if they give biodegradable bags for meat, why not just switch to biodegradable rather than eliminating bags altogether?

And while we are at it let’s eliminate plastic bottles, soda cans plastic straws, and the like. Paper napkins also just being your own handkerchief to any restaurant or bagel store you visit. Why the need to go backwards? And since when is using paper from trees better for the environment suddenly? Weren’t we always trying to save paper/trees? Why don’t we eliminate cars and refrigerator me altogether it’ll be better for the environment. Horses actually help with fertilizing the soil. We should go back to that.

Meno and what about 100watts which are pretty common as well. Did you check those prices? Besides you don’t think $3 for a bulb is a lot when light bulbs are just basic necessities? Especially if they won’t really last you for 22 years…

Ya copying and pasting is best option. But in all honesty there have been much longer posts approved. Doesn’t matter now, what’s done is done.

Really mods? My post was so long? Surely it wasn’t as long as the latest post by random. There wasn’t much to moderate I didn’t say anything remotely negative. Was asking why as Jews we would have to rely on non Jewish healing since they have the knowledge for it? Asking why in Judaism we don’t have as much of that knowledge? Is this post also too long because my other post was pretty much the same. Surely not nearly as long as other posts in this topic by others. It’s annoying because you guys don’t care that people invest time and effort to write and with one click you make it disappear for no good reason. Then just have to rewrite the post. At least modify if you think something so bad was written which surely wasn’t the case here.

Yes we do care, we don’t make things disappear for no good reason, your post was about 1200 characters longer than the long one.

“Israel has more antisemitism than the US. If you think you need to leave, moving to Israel on that basis is less safe. I’d suggest Australia or Canada is where to move.”

-Joseph give me a break, thats such a foolish statement. First of all, Canada? Which is more anti semitic than other areas?
Yes Israel makes life for the frum difficult no doubt, but in event of antisemitism Israel would be the safest place. You really think the Israeli government would set up concentration camps? The fact is that antisemitism is being unleashed in the world and we have to know if this is our warning. It always starts small, from thugs and low lives. The problem gets worse when it catches on like wildfire and spreads away from just the thug population.

Random- so I wrote an interesting reply but wasn’t posted for whatever funny reason the mods have. Sorry don’t feel like retyping it all. Would have liked to see answers but you know, mods what can you do. There was nothing wrong with my reply so kind of disappointed that its lost thanks to mods.

Very long posts are hard to moderate and are more likely to not be approved. See https://www.theyeshivaworld.com/coffeeroom/topic/moderation-memos-posting-tips-and-important-links#post-612444