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ujm”Okay. The original vote split Palestine into a Jewish state and an Arab state, with Jerusalem being an international zone. In that case, Israel only has permission to control the original Jewish zone and not the Jerusalem zone or the Arab zone.

-ya but Israel won it n a DEFENSIVE war. They didnt go out and try to conquer it. If they gained control in a war they didnt start, why give it back?

Avira Calf and winning not one but 3 large scale wars is very different. The Golden Calf due to thinking Moshe Rabbeinu was gone was a test. What exactly is a nisayon about winning 3 unwinnable wars, in 3 different time periods? What do you suggest that they just be like” Ok guys that was a good run, thanks for the sport, this is a test so we decided to hand back the country to the Ottomans/British or whoever”?

After the fact and bottom line, is it better that we have Israel right now or worse? Aside for what Zionists plans were in the beginning we are now in a time where there is also an Orthodox influence there. So what is the verdict?

Stop with the insults everyone, its one thing to use the coffee room as training to improve your arguments or to practice conveying your points clearly and effectively. But there is no need to do so with insults and definitely not with personal insults. It doesnt make your point any clearer and in fact it just digresses from the topic and becomes a contest of who can insult the other more and with more “cleverness”. Try to refrain from this type of speech/writing. Its childish and less respectable not to mention hurtful to others, yes even if they dont know you and you dont know them.

what would be the difference who controls it? They all have issue with Israel. And maybe not obliterate but cause significant damage that they wouldnt keep attacking. But I guess it would only work if Israel could recapture the land which practically speaking wont be possible anymore.

lebanon was mostly guerilla warfare with Hezbollah. And Gaza isnt officially a country its just a territory so there is no comparison. But if they were a country, there would be a different war style engagement.

So back to the question, if Palestinians had an official state and kept fighting Israel, would Israel be able to just destroy them after the first rocket launch or attack on Israel? Since they would be an official country and then any attack would be considered war?

nomesorah, Actually i was talking of the common Jew to have this attitude of not shrinking away when seeing a swastika, which is an instinct that rightfully so happens to us, but we can change it. As far as ADL and all, they are hypocrites and only lash out when convenient to them and usually for crying wolf type of events. It makes us look weak. As far as the NBA player who shared the video, ya it was wrong and he tried being tough standing up to everyone, but really the video was unwatchable by many and making it a bigger deal made sure that now everyone was going to watch it. Also if its sold on Amzaon then they are the ones who should have been attacked and they refused to remove it anyway. Penalizing the player and making him pay a fee makes us look whiny, weak and playing in to the same anti Jewish tropes that these low lives spew to begin with.

Aleaysask, that’s not the discussion here. Of course there are so many who observe. I’m not trying to look at those who do not. I just feel that as a nation we would be stronger if these basic laws were a little more strict. Not advocating for laws to be implemented In ones home. As it stands most areas do not operate public transportation on Shabbos so the idea isn’t that out of reach. I mean Muslim countries have much worse laws. But they respect their beliefs by implementing them. Only Jews need to be different? I’m just putting out the idea that it would be much more respectful to ourselves to have basic Shabbos and especially kashrus laws. Why can’t there be a law that no chazir can be sold or seafood and basar vechalav? If many have accepted that busses don’t operate on Shabbos and neither do flights, then why would this be such an issue?

DaMoshe-thats exactly what i was saying

“You guys can argue all you want but everyone knows that the IDF changed the perception of the world vis a vis the “weak Jew”. And that does not negate the fact that Hashem runs the world. ”

Yabia, thats the IDF, nobody is looking at a Jew in Brooklyn and thinking IDF. Lets be honest.

My point is maybe we can change that by stopping our weak physical mentality that a Jew needs to just sit all day until they are a wheezing hunchback from deficient sunlight and physical fitness, instead of eating right and getting some exercise done in order to keep healthy and strong.

Im not suggesting that anyone abandon Yeshiva for the Gym Chas VeShalom, rather I’m suggesting that we incorporate some physical exercise to keep healthy and strong and also maybe to know how to stand up for ourselves mentally and physically. Enough of being easy targets.

aluperma-“Do you some basis, other than zionist and Nazi propaganda, to believe that Jews are wimps?”

-well the world usually views us as that which is why you see so many physical attacks on Jews as an easy target with no consequence since at most they will run away or shout. Im not blaming anyone I’m just wondering why we are taught to be that way

“It’s a lot easier to shift blame than to fix oneself ”
-you are right coffee addict, just like Dave Chapelle said on his SNL anti Jew rant, “I know Jews have been through a lot, but please, dont try to blame black Americans for what has happened to you”.

What should we fix? The low lives in Hollywood or those who conduct other bad things in which we dont involve ourselves in? Besides, should Jews be apologetic for being successful? Are they forcing anyone to work for them?

Sam you dont seem to understand the world we are living in. The media, social media, and political agendas of the left have managed to push their views on most of the world influencing them with leftist and liberal views. Michelle Obama is female, black, and an Obama. They will have an opportunity to make history with these categories and people buy into that, aside for the fact that so many love the Obamas. It can be very dangerous to Republicans and make it almost impossible to win especially for Trump.

I mean less barbaric as a whole. When you look at some of the punishments invented by Rome and others its spine chilling

Common saychel “One person junk is another person’s treasure”

-that is true and I believe in that as well but now we are going into more of a recycling or reuse of resources. But why is so much junk produced in the first place? People are consumers of everything and more and more useless litter is produced. Amazon is full of Sellers from China selling things that are low quality and made to stop working after a short period of time. The clutter we have in this world is beyond belief since its so much cheaper to make everything than it ever was.

If you read a few books about minimalism or watch some videos, it discusses how having only the things you need and about how it makes a person so much more productive, clear-minded and life so much better. Really when you think about it all the useless junk and clutter we collect just weighs us down. It increases our worrying about our possessions, many of which we wouldnt know are gone if we were to get rid of them. Has anyone looked into this concept or try it and notice a difference. Part of the problem nowadays is the marketing, consumer culture, and trying to keep up or outshine everyone else simply because the marketing companies told us it would.

Pirkei Avos tells us the one who is rich is the one satisfied/happy with their share. How do we apply this to our times? Also is it fair to say that if we choose to live a simple life (in terms of materialism) we are looked down upon by others as if we simply cant afford say a brand new lease, or the latest iphone, huge house etc.? Many will just dismiss your simple living or satisfactory materialism by saying you are just using it as an excuse because you are bitter. Its also brought up (Pirkei Avos?) that you should not dress to fancy due to haughtiness but on the other hand you need not dress in rags due to others poentially disrespecting you or looking down upon you since a person needs to have self respect and dignity. So maybe there is something to having to own certain things or dress a certain way (for others) in order to not be looked down upon?

alwaysask, i googled it and could not find that page. Maybe they brought it back but it was taken down for a while during the vaccine Blitzkreig. Also there is a link about upcoming vaccines and info which leads to the WHO but then says page not found. I dont see the 10-15 years it just says vaccine licensing can take 10 years or more. Regardless, if they took down the info even temporarily to deceive people that is corruption. And if they are going against their own policies that vaccines take over 10 years thats also corruption. And whos to say they wont alter their policies? If they can hide the information at will nothing can stop them from putting out whatever info suits their agenda. Also historyofvacccines is not the CDC

Reb eliezer, nobody learns from history that’s why it’s often repeated in different forms. Also because of history manipulation, people tend to not believe or even know the real history so there is no way they can learn to avoid it.

Participant, kiddush cup-how is stem easier to hold? Also many have a custom to hold the bottom of the cup, doesnt the stem make it more unstable to hold that way?

Esrog no pitom is pasul? Thats if it broke off after being taken off the tree.

Matza, Vilna Gaon held by 2 Matzah for Seder.

Megilla pretty much all fold as in “Igeres” and not a scroll. Artscroll covers have a picture of a Megillah as scroll, how come we dont use a megilla that way?

Tzitzis/Tallis no stripes? Where?

Matzah, is the Minhag for yetzias mitzrayim or earlier since they already would make Matzah even before leaving Mitzrayim.

Gold rings for lulav sounds pretty cool. Although on the Shekel they found in ISrael its portrayed on one side the Heichal and the other 4 Minim and it does look like a koshalach or some fancy holder binding it. Spehardim and some others tie the minim directly on to the lulav without a holder. Im wondering when that minhag arose if its depicted with a holder during Bayis Sheini.

How about the Pesach minhag to wear a kittle at the Seder?

None of those are minhagim they are just foods that go together. Also why would you need to flush twice on a public toilet unless it doesn’t flush well?