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hu bacha- you forgot to mention goggles. What will mask and gloves help without the newly advised goggles?
“lechoyra better to buy a book at least you will save 5 cents for returning it late”
-well ya save 5 cents but spend a lot more on something you will likely read once if it even turns out to be interesting enough to do so. Its a shame you just cant clean books as you can a cd or any other media type.
Or as ive mentioned just go for the books which are brand new/new condition, which is impossible currently since all you can do is order and pickup so no way to choose.
They do update books and get new copies but unfortunately not often enough and they absolutely love to save as much as they can by keeping a worn out filthy book in circulation as long as they can.
“No Budget” what can you do.
You can check Craigslist or kghshuls group as well as fivetownsshuls groups. People always giving things away there.
Not gonna respond anymore tried twice I must have said something wrong according to mods. Was well thought out. Oh
Well we all controlled
Ya you got me. What a clever detective!
If not from China how about North Korea or more likely Iran which has nothing to and get enjoyment from seeing the world burn? These are countries that the U.S has prepared for.
Noyb” No one is looking to start World War 3, especially in the current climate.”
World War 3? An EMP Strike which would totally burn out the whole grid and all devices which would make that country totally defenseless and done for. There wouldnt even be enough communication to let submarines know that there was an EMP in order to strike back which in the meantime gives the striking country an opportunity to take them out. It would be devastating.
Well being used to stay at home might be easier to control the situation/people since there would be a tendency for riots and chaos in the streets.
Trump issued an executive order a year ago to prepare for an EMP strike and seems the news has resurfaced recently.
Yes would be a dumb move on China but then again you are dealing with a government who doesnt care about killing their own people as shown with this pandemic, and who might do anything to be the Empire of the world. Last I checked the world owes a lot of money to China especially the U.S., not the other way around.
@Coffee Addict-“Just like giuliani came after dinkins I wouldn’t be surprised if a exceptionally good right wing mayor will come after deblasio”
-I think Curtis Sliwa of the Guardian Angels and Radio Host is running for Mayor
no Yserbius, just alot of information to cover. What proof do you want about bill gates being evil? The fact that he is so involved and excited about pandemics, smiling and nervously laughing anytime he brings up the fact that people die or someone brings it up in the interview, talking about depopulation of the world/via vaccines, pushing for chips to be installed in the population as to control the masses by easily accessing their medical information on person, should I go on or are those enough qualities of a good person?
ubiquitin-“These are bacteria that were already in your respiratory tract they doidnt pose ham on the first go around, why would exhaling them and re-inhaling the cause harm the second time?”
-theres a difference when something is inside the body and once its expelled out it changes. Theres also a reason why things leave the body. I’ll clear it up for you since you are so ignorant. Theres a reason for going to the bathroom. I would not advise putting that stuff back into your system. But hey be my guest tell us how it worked out for you. If you really believe the stuff you say then there is not much more need to explain since you just aren’t capable of understanding basic medical logic.
Anyway keep inhaling your own carbon dioxide seems to be doing wonders for you. Your replies are so ridiculous it just isnt worth answering anymore. Look up common sense.
ubiquitin-“Carbon dioxide doesn’t stick to your mask. and any bacteria is bacteria youve already exhaled”
-Thanks for clarifying that doc, but yes you are inhaling carbon dioxide since its in a confined space between your nose and mask. Oh the bacteria you already exhaled? Then what a great idea to inhale it back into your system genius. How about when you clean your runny nose or cough up mucus into a tissue just rub it back into your nose and mouth great idea. After all you it came out of your own system whats the harm in putting it back in?
“no never heard of that. Ar you suggesting using “fresh air” to treat those with sepsis?”
-oh thats right because thats what we were trying to treat with fresh air my mistake
“hospitals are currently well stocked.”
-Oh so before it was ineffective to wear a mask since there was a shortage but now that hospitals are well stocked its effective once again. Sheep will be Sheep. This is the type of gullible that makes it easy for them to brainwash and control the masses. You would have to be pretty unsmart in order to not see through this propaganda. Its too obvious.
“Recommendations change all the time, as new data/information becomes avilable. That is a good thing not bad . While masks dont do much to prevent you from getting sick (though helps a bit) they do prevent you from infecting others which you can do even if asymptomatic.”
-masks are nothing new they have been around long enough for there to be enough research on them. Fauci himself said that most masks do nothing as the viruses go right through them and are worthless. But now suddenly they are effective enough to receive a $1000 fine for not wearing them. uh ok.
“Ask all your questions. Its ok to be uncertain in these scary times. but get reasonable answers that make sense . We are here for you it will be ok.”
-Thanks doc. Would you be so kind as to appear on TV interviews and Youtube in order to reassure everyone else as well? Wouldnt want to be selfish.
Oh and don’t forget to be the first one in line once Billy declares chips to be planted into your body to track your medical history.
Ubiquitin”And nonsense (eg wearing a mask makes you sick by “activating” the virus. What? How?)”
Very simple. You breathe in h20. You exhale co2. When you have your mask on all day as they “recommend”, you are breathing in your own carbon dioxide and any other bacteria that is piling up inside your mask. It’s one thing to wear a mask for short period of times. It’s another to wear one while excercising, jogging, or even just walking around all day.
Besides she isn’t the only doctor who brought this up.
Did you forget about the old fashioned remedy of just good old air when you are sick to freshen yourself up and kill germs? What happened to opening up the window every now and then or taking a walk for some fresh air? How do you do that when you are wearing your muzzle all day long? Isn’t that a bit counterintuitive? Yes muzzle. Look at how people look right now following orders all muzzled up. The “superiors” love this. Yet they themselves who declare all to wear a mask are too elite to wear one themselves. It’s only for the controlled common folk.
What happened to Fauci’s “do not wear masks! You are depleting the supply for the medical staff. Masks are only for those who are sick. If you aren’t sick DO NOT wear a mask it will not prevent you from getting sick it will not do anything”
Strange how we went from that to suddenly getting $1000 fines or subject to arrest if we don’t wear a mask. But keep being a sheep. Along with everyone else that’s why we are at this point.
Millhouse, there are worse videos on YouTube which are total lies, conspiracies and other dangerous content which have not been removed. Interesting that this caught their attention.
Ubiquitin”Waaait so they’re not behind it? I thought you said the organizers of the event were behind the outbreak?”
They never dreamed it would play out as bad as they hoped. They also never dreamed they would be able to control the masses so easily withing 1 or 2 months taking all their liberties away without so much as a protest. This has set a course which is dangerous for everyone. Anytime they will want to control the masses it will be accepted since it’s happened before. Btw your friend Billy gates has been talking about forced vaccinations and chips inserted into your hand to be scanned for vaccines and your medical history. Will you comply with that too? Or is that also a conspiracy.
Millhouse”Right, maybe this will explain it. All the predictions you are bringing up were NOT predicting anything as severe as what has happened. They were all referring to the normal kind of pandemic that happens regularly, which is often (Ibut not always) a coronavirus, and often (but not always) from China”
Not true. Check Event 201 for yourself on YouTube it’s all recorded on video. They predicted even worse. They spoke about shutting down the internet as to reduce panic upon people. They never dreamed that it would ACTUALLY play out as bad as this. They hoped it would be worse though.
working for who? nomesorah, did you run out of aluminum foil for your hat?
yeserbius-“So neither of us can say what it indicates, we can only report what the experts are saying.”
ya but you dont need to be an expert to see the break in the pattern that this time they handled it much different and tried hiding it from the world aside from letting it spread to other countries.
*Dr. Judy Mikovits
You think Fauci and Birx are to be trusted? Look up Dr. Judy Minkovitz who had worked under Fauci. She has exposed him for who he really is and exposed that there is an agenda to this whole lockdown and mishandling of the situation. And just as proof to the fact that they dont want you to see this, the social networks and youtube are censoring the videos from being searched or even shared!
Another documentary “out of shadows” was released on youtube which exposes Hollywood’s propagandous brainwashing and exposure of corrupt political figures, has been made impossible to share or locate since youtube is aggressively trying to hide this video. Its gotten millions of views and counting and youtube will not even label it as trending in order to hide it. What does that tell you? This has even been discussed on WABC radio shows so not such a conspiracy anymore. Its freedom of speech being taken away and the propagandeous agenda being spread by the such powerful social medias who control and influence people as they wish.
Hospitals are stubbornly not treating the patients with certain drugs such as hydroxychloroquine and zinc, and Remdesivir which have been proven to be effective. Not only that, the media propaganda tried to pin Trump by putting out that some person died from taking Trumps advice when the real story was that his wife killed him intentionally by giving him fish tank cleaner tablets under false pretense!
Its been revealed also that Hospitals are getting $13,000 for a covid-19 patient but $32,000 if put on a ventilator which isnt required for all patients but are put on it regardless even if it kills them which it is! They wont even try the recommended treatments of pills which Trump has begged them to try!
There is a lot of evil going on especially when it comes to medical which even in regular times they harm patients intentionally through malpractice since they will make more money. After all what good is a healthy patient if on the other hand unnecessary surgeries will rake in more cash?
Gates, Fauci and crew have an agenda to control the masses and finally it is working for them by scaring people into voluntarily giving up their rights out of such fear. The fact that social media sites and youtube (all invented and owned by leftist liberals) have become so brazen as to censor freedom of speech and to only push their agenda and propaganda is a very scary move. The fact that governments have tested out how much control they can have over people and with more ease than they could have ever imagined is frightening as well since it has set a precedent for any future plans they have in store.
Its not the language its the content.
“China dropped the ball on handling the initial outbreak. They tried to cover it up and are covering up their incompetence. ”
-And they felt a need to kill of their own doctors and civilians? How wasnt that the case with previous viruses SARS, MERS etc.
What mishandling did they have in this case aside from not warning the world, covering it up, letting everyone out of Wuhan free to travel and spread it to the globe, lying, killing, closing off civilian communications and so on, all as a result of trying to cover up something that could have been much less damaging if they hadnt covered it up. So basically the effect of the cause of this embarrassment became the cause of the effect.
Almost all these viruses come out of China over the years whether lab created or not, and they never reacted in the manner that they have with this one which indicates something. They expelled journalists and do not allow any health organizations near the labs.
Yserbius- Nazi propaganda? That’s hilarious. First of all many proud Jewish radio hosts have come out against fauci and burks so I doubt they follow nazi propaganda. It doesn’t take a lot of research to see how evil of a past these 2 have.
The rest of what you say makes no sense so I won’t even entertain you with a reply.
Ubiquitin what’s your point? Your neighbor warned you of something that is existent already. How do you compare that to a bunch of “elitists” warning you word for word of what will happen especially a month before it happens!
Nomesorah- I’m not sure what can be done since most people aren’t aware or care enough about what happens behind the scenes. Also it’s not easy to stop such powerful people. The whole system is corrupt from medical and so on. They are taking advantage of this virus in order to see how much and how far they can control the masses. So far they have been able to do it with fairly little resistance if any at all. They use fear tactics which makes it easier since people voluntarily do not want to leave the house and will do pretty much anything the media and government tell them to do “for their own safety” even if it means losing their business forever.
The problem is that this has shown them it can so easily be achieved that in the future they can lockdown the masses whenever they deem fit. And I didn’t make this up you can listen to local radio shows with very reputable hosts who have been talking about this issue. The fact that people have been so easy to control shapes up what will happen in the future.
Remember how ridiculous”curfew” sounded during snowstorms in NYC? That they threatened to arrest anyone on the road? Noone took that seriously it was unheard of. But this changed everything. Now it’s been accepted by the masses and they will be able to lockdown and curfew for anything in the future.
Yserbius- Im not understanding your moshul since noone is denying/disputing the cause of illness (for the most part). The dispute is whether it came from a lab or not. And again “bioweapon conspiracy”, not such a conspiracy since countries do work on bioweapons . Difficult to believe China would release this to the world intentionally especially without a way to stop it (although its possible), but rather more likely it slipped out of a lab or was injected into animals and then sold to markets.
Im not asking anyone to take my opinions without evidence. All I said is that it is too early for “evidence” to surface but America and likely other nations are looking into the matter. Im also not saying it is for sure from a lab, im saying it likely is based on the nature of this virus and China’s attempts at hiding it from the world and misleading everyone with intentional misinformation. Not to mention the killing of Chinas doctors who tried warning the world.
nomesorah-Im not saying we need to do anything. If the world finds out this was created in a lab then they will obviously make them face the consequences. You are all forgetting the original header here, “Event 201”, led by Bill Gates and crew who have been speaking for years about depopulation, depopulation through vaccines, prepared this event 1month before it broke out in China highlighting almost everything that played out to this point, and all the other shady things they have been working on behind the scenes all the years.
Not to mention Fauci’s warning in 2017 about a pandemic in Trump’s term, Gates warning in 2015 and so on. Bill gates, Jeff Bezos, Fauci, license-less Birks and many more evils of this world more than anyone knows. Just look up some of the past things these bunch were involved in especially stopping scientists who were close to finding cures for certain diseases and shutting them down.
yserbius- Give it some time and the evidence will arrive. Let me ask you this. Is it not suspicious how this affects mostly elderly, attacks specific organs, contagious as wildfire etc.? Is it not suspicious how China tried hiding it from the world until they no longer could? Is it not suspicious how every Chinese doctor/scientist who tried warning the world and spoke up suddenly either disappeared, got sick and died from the disease, or went missing? What other virus/disease was as contagious as this one? What other virus attacks so many organs and causes such damage!
It is difficult to obtain hard evidence so early in the game and especially since this is nothing new for China to meddle with. The biolabs are close to the wetmarkets what a coincidence, and so many interesting viruses coming out of China all the years SARS, MERS, etc.
Whats likely is that either this was accidentally released, or was injected into bats or whatever other animals and then sold to these live markets to make extra cash for whoever was able to sell it. They cared not of the consequences.
Didnt China say in the beginning that this virus isnt contagious between animals to humans or humans to humans? Still not suspicious enough? Who came up with the idea that hiding information about this virus from the world would help?
Ubiquitin you either think you are funny or your intelligence level is just lower than we all assumed. There have been talks about this being lab made from day one. Interesting why China tried covering it up from the world and killed all the doctors who tried to warn everyone until it got out of hand. It’s also interesting how it targets specific age groups. I think your tin foil hat is blocking your already thick skull from information. Maybe take it off for a few minutes?
Ubiquitin, I think you need to get your head out of that bubble you are living in and accept the fact the world is a darker place than you’d like it to be.
Yserbius”There still hasn’t been one lab confirming that the virus is man made.”
So still a conspiracy? Even after the secretary of state said it’s most likely the case evidently?
Millhouse “Who’s “we”, paleface?”
You have at least one mirror in the house don’t you?
ubiquitin-“no not strange. Pandemics are not that rare. you say “but not on this scale” true, but he didnt predict the scale”
-scale or not, its funny how there were so many “warnings” before Trump took office and during, while before then we never heard of such a word as pandemic. Definitely not under Obama. And btw the mock pandemic meeting aka “Event 201” which conveniently took place a month or 2 before news from China broke out, coincidentally dealt with a pandemic on this scale or even greater which they hoped for. Oh what a hero Bill Gates is now pretending how he would like to save people lives while nervously laughing each time he hears or says the word pandemic or death to his delight. Same person who spoke about depopulation for years via pandemic and vaccines. You can try to act as smart as you want, but many things have been occurring and being handled in a way that raises one’s eyebrow. Do some research, maybe you’ll learn something.
“wait a minute…. you were one of the first I heard to say it was man- made. so if in fact it turns out to be man-made this PROVES you had a hand in it.
There is no other possible explanation. you are clearly behind all of this”
-There is a difference between “warning” (hinting) about a pandemic before something happens and speculating or investigating an occurrence “AFTER” it happened.
Millhouse-” Pandemics are nothing unusual. It would be extraordinary to go eight years without one. Therefore it was not at all remarkable for Dr Fauci to predict that there would be at least one during Trump’s administration.”
-So…where were all the warnings, precautions, mock pandemic preparedness, meetings and gatherings, accusations and reactions during obamas term or leading up to it?
ubiquitin- ya but not on this scale, those were more like outbreaks than pandemics. What reason would there be to believe there would ever be a pandemic? There hasnt been one since the spanish flu and even then it wasnt worldwide. If this was made in a lab then obviously that changes everything and makes the scenario of a pandemic more likely to happen.. But just a naturally occurring pandemic suddenly? What reason to think it should happen?
If in fact this was lab-made, many of those who “warned” us even years in advance surely had a hand in this.
Yserbius”There still hasn’t been one lab confirming that the virus is man made.”
-There is an investigation going on now regarding if this in fact came from chinese lab. Whether it was unleashed intentionally or not is a different story.
Also to add on to the list of warnings from bill gates and the like, Dr Fauci stated in Jan 2017 that during Trump’s administration there would be a pandemic. STRANGE.
“RW: Why are you afraid of others knowing what you do?
Unless you’re doing illegal or inapp6 stuff.”
Ok Joseph the next time you go use the bathroom just leave the door open. Also the next time you are having a conversation with someone record it and share it with everyone you know. Also when you are changing record yourself and share with everyone online. Is that “innapropriate” and “illegal” enough for you to rather keep those things private?
Most predictable comeback, i thought you were smarter than that.
Ubiquitin- this is a big misconception. The problem is that even if you don’t use anything, Facebook will create a profile on you to keep as long as you are listed in someone’s phone contacts who has Facebook, Google and all apps will record you as long as someone with a smartphone calls you, (aside for the government surveillance regardless of what phone you have), and even paid emails will still share your informa5. You pay internet bills and utility bills noone is giving you that for free. And once you have paid services or even a library card all your info gets sold and will appear in public records on the web. Including name, age, date of birth, address history and current, and probably much more if you pay for the info. It’s so unsettling especially since most people have to use email and do have many apps or even social media.
Whether you want to or not the world changed. Used to be fax and mail now it is all done online and by email. Just becaue the world changed and forces us to use these as necessity isn’t fair that we must compromise all our personal information for renewed methods of communication.
All the tin foil hatters are on point for today. In fact they probably underestimate how much data is mined on us. You know it’s legitimate when respected tech websites even point this out and create many articles on this issue. They know you more than you remember. Every step you take, every time you use Google maps, they know where you were, where you went, when you went, everything!
They even record you through your devices without knowing.
Joseph, thats the first reason that yidden might think of. But just because Hashem knows everything about us doesn’t mean people want others to know as well. Are you comfortable with anyone knowing every step you take throughout the day or every conversation you have?
yserbius”That was one Chinese official and other Chinese officials called him quote crazy unquote.”
-Crazy or not it was serious enough for Trump to have to call it the chinese virus to be clear that it came out of china. He was asked many times about that and that was his answer.
ubiquitin-” There is a reason why the CDC had a pandemic office that Trumop got rid of since it hadnt been used.”
-Theres also a reason why Bill Gates “conveniently” stepped down from Microsoft.
“question for you though ? why would they film this event and release it cant thaey use their powers to shut down the internet? or at least suppress the evidence if they can shut down the world economy why cant they shut down a video?”
-They are proud of the video so that they can say told you so. If noone finds out that they knew about it why hide it? That in it of itself would be suspicious to suddenly remove it all. If you knew what they spoke about in the meeting, youd know that internet shutdown was proposed during pandemic in order to “avoid panic”, if that makes any sense at all.
Why is it so hard to believe that the virus was made in a lab? More and more evidence is coming up that its not such a conspiracy anymore. Many countries have bio warfare labs. The question is more was it released intentionally or not. Just because it may have been created in a lab doesnt mean it was intentionally released. It most likely escaped which is why China tried to hide this from the world until December when it got out of control. Interesting how all the chinese doctors who tried warning about this conveniently got sick and died or disappeared. Why would China hide this from the world. Even Trump publicly said he was disappointed that President Xi didnt share info earlier. He was more than disappointed it was more of an accusation via hint.
so how did they “know” about the “next pandemic”
Yserbius “Not one laboratory has stated that they believe the virus to be man made.”
Ya except for china blaming the US saying the army brought the virus into Wuhan. So that’s one country who thinks it could have been man made. Which is why trump is calling it The Chinese virus to make it clear of the origin. He could have called it the china virus but that’s a different topic.
Gadol and yakov. I can understand the disblief. I know that the world is made up of tzaddikim and it’s hard to accept that these things can happen.
You want sources? Check event 201 on YouTube you will see the whole recorded meeting that took place in October 2019. See their “predictions” which played out so well by these “prophets”. Check out bill gates on depopulation. Check out bill gates Ted talk in 2005 on the next pandemic. See his nervous laugh when he talks about people dying and about past epidemics such as ebola.
Read up on it. Read people’s comments.
Again I said I’m not a conspiracy theorist. What a coincidence however that they had this meeting on how unprepared the world is for the next pandemic and boom, less than 2 months later it unleashed.
And many have said it’s a conspiracy theory that this came out of a lab. Many are starting to see that it’s not such a conspiracy. Even china themselves have tried to pin this on the US army “bringing the virus into china”. How do you “bring” a virus if its not contained in some vile?
And to shut down the world economy and do more damage in 1 week than all the years of a broken economy? To shut people down in their homes and make them tear each other apart like savages over toilet paper?
Noone coming out to calm the people about how America has an abundance of supplies or the fact that many who got the virus also recovered. No, the only numbers they show are the ones who contracted it as to leave an impression that it ended there.
Di Blasio admitted that with more testing we will confirm more cases. “Nothing to panic, it’s a fact since testing will confirm that people have it doesn’t mean they didnt have it already”. But suddenly he uses the escalating cases to frighten everyone that we can only compare the situation to the great depression and that we must lockdown.
Interesting way to de-escalate all the panic which the media and “leaders” have been doing a great job at. Again I never said there isn’t a virus. Swine flu existed as well.
Most will either cleverly hide or give vague information on their products, but even the ones that do advertise grown in USA who’s to say you can trust it?
Cbdistllery which is much cheaper than the others and considered to be effective advertises as made in USA and lab tested for potency and purity.
But again how can you believe any of these companies?
I know Charlotte’s Web is considered trusted but you can check YouTube reviews for all 3 I’ve mentioned and seems they all have good reviews,which again can be biased so who knows.
Question is if Charlotte’s Web is charging more just becaue they know they have a good name and are trusted. As it is cbd oil is highly overpriced. Of course if it’s effective it is worth it but it still is overpriced currently.
Charlotte’s Web 500 mg goes for 74.99 while Cbdistllery 500 goes for 30. Spruce is also 74.99 but for 750 mg.
Aside for those there are a few other high caliber companies in the same category and level, with similar price range plus or minus.
These 3 happen to appear on many top lists. But again so many companies to choose from even those that are considered premium product.
So i looked into Charlottes Web(by stanley brothers), Spruce and CBDistillery as I narrowed down the list. Anyone have experience with these brands? I know charlottes web and spruce are considered premium and trusted companies but are more expensive than cbdistillery which is also known to have positive effects.
Is this spreading everywhere?
Yes. Do anyone have experience with good brands? I know there are some top brands if you Google and they definitely aren’t cheap.
Syag-“exactly my point. Who ever said that that wasn’t the reason for the “no” in the first place. And why can’t someone look for the person who has the nature they are looking for without being accused of being petty, materialistic, money hungry and everything else you called her….”
Well it’s pretty easy to tell that it wasn’t the reason in the first place seeing how most girls first question is what do you do, and if they aren’t happy with the answer the conversation is over. So ya there isn’t even a chance to get to know the person. And let’s be real, if the guy is swimming in cash and shows up in a nice new car, suddenly it’s much easier to accept everything else.
Syag, not sure how you perceive things, but finding a person with the right “nature” doesn’t mean how much he makes and what lineage he has. And if you were really looking for someone with the right “nature”, your first question wouldn’t be, “so what do you do”?
” Whatever YOU and some of the bochur’s family and friends may think about his virtues are irrelevant. It is only HER standards that count, after she considers the views of all those she trusts.”
Well you know what Dorah- next time you complain about a bochir rejecting a girl especially based on how she looks, remember it’s HIS standards that count. What you think of that girl means nothing. Especially since she won’t suddenly change to become beautiful. But a guy on the other hand can become a millionaire the next day so if anything, most reasons that women have are so senseless because they base mostly on money to define the person. I’m sure even if the guy isn’t such a good guy but leaves a money trail everywhere he goes,”HER” standards will suddenly drop by a longshot so let’s not kid ourselves. Suddenly midos, and personality won’t matter so much. Everything is great!
And if you have any problem with a guy not being able to or wanting to force himself to marry somoen he isn’t attracted to, then I suggest you take a course to rewire your perception of how things work.
Dorah-“If a young woman decides a young man is not a good match for her, than she should stay with that decision. Whatever YOU and some of the bochur’s family and friends may think about his virtues are irrelevant. It is only HER standards that count, after she considers the views of all those she trusts.”
-noone is forcing anyone to get to know or marry someone who they don’t want that’s an obvious. What you don’t seem to get is that “HER” standards, are not really her standards. They are standards that were instilled into her mind by others and anything less than that will not work for her.
And on what bases is a “young woman” deciding that a young man is not a good match for her? Just becaue he doesn’t have a career doesn’t make him a bad guy. Again for those “powerful” women out there who have a career and don’t need a man then good for them. They look for a guy who makes even more than them and end up being his trophy wife which means what it sounds. Maybe they will regret later maybe not but yes, that’s their decision.
But many girls out there who don’t think that way, think that way nowadays becaue of what their surroundings make them perceive as ‘standards”. So yes when there are such good guys out there who for whatever reason didn’t yet land some career and work hard at a regular job or trade, and are being viewed as unqualified, then we have an issue.
What’s wrong if someone has a regular stable job. They aren’t worthy of getting married? They don’t deserve someone in their life? Who said they won’t get something better later in life or advance or get a better opportunity? And ehks to say the one with the career won’t lose it? And where do we factor in someone’s personality, caring, respectful, giving,considerate,patient, fun to be around, attentive and so on?
My point isnt that everyone should settle for what they don’t want. My point is that many are skipping over quality unique individuals becaue they “think” they will be settling since the false standards have been established.
And for the comment about love comes after. I never said love at first sight where did I write that? Obviously it comes after and you build towards it which strengthens my point about how many girls are taught that perfection should be strived for before you even get married, and that could not be further from reality. Your list of pre-qualifications and standards can be thrown out the window. Many who think they got perfect are deeply disappointed shortly after. And the other way around.
Syag-“I have seen guys present themselves as wonderful, straight, serious guys but they forgot that their facebook pages are public. They may think the girls said no out of pickiness, but that’s because they don’t have a clue that they are presenting a very unattractive side of themselves that doesn’t quite match their resume.”
I don’t mean to be harsh and I don’t speak for myself I speak for many of my friends and good guys out there who don’t even get a chance becaue they don’t meet these flawed “standards” that have been set. Obviously people who deceive others shouldn’t expect. The ones who are real don’t even get a chance. That’s the issue.
People who are genuine deserve to find someone genuine of course. But the corrupt mindset that unfortunately nowadays most women have, the illogical and unrealistic demands ruin it for everyone including themselves.
The illusion that everything should be perfect before marriage it’s like what are they thinking? Do people really think if everything is “perfect” before the marriage then it’s a match made in heaven? I mean seriously there is no perfect and marriage is something that both sides work together to keep. The main thing is for the couple to love each other and actually want to stay together not to marry someone who will satisfy the requirements of their parents and shadchan and friends. Yes parents opinion is important and neccessary since they have experience and are on the sidelines can see clearer, but that’s not the issue.
The issue is the corrupted mindset of women nowadays and then they wonder why they are either divorced or over 30 and alone. These demands have to stop and someone has to educate women/girls (and guys) and remind them of the Torah way and what marriage is really about. Japs will be Japs. But good girls who get influenced by surrounding and result in a corrupted mindset is a shame and really everyone loses out. You are marrying the person who is unique and might be the best person for you. If you want to marry money go get a stack of cash and put a ring on it.
Mystikins_”I’d rather my daughter marry at 30 than end up with a man who insists she should settle for him instead of with the respectful husband she deserves.”
Your sick logic is part of the issue and it’s why your daughter likely will have to wait until 30 to get the “husband she deserves” according to your qualifications.
These girls are becoming too picky for their own good. Everything needs to be perfect before marriage they think and demand. And then when they are over 30 and it starts getting really late, they still don’t wake up.
The amount of attraction that they developed for money has gotten out of control. So many good guys who want to get married and simply aren’t “qualified” enough by the sick standards that have been set, just to have a woman. Then they get depressed and unbalanced being alone and not even allowed to be in a relationship without being married. So what choice do they have aside from just giving everything up? How long can one be trapped alone.
Yes the blame is on these new age minded woman and girls and all the ones who surround them such as sick minded parents and shadchanim and friends instilling into their mind ” strive for perfect” ” he has to be settled what do you want to live on the street? He needs to have a career not just a job!”.
Perfect? Nothing is perfect even after marriage! Which is why the divorce rates are going up since these corrupt minds expect things that are unrealistic and don’t understand it doesn’t work that way. There’s a reason why it was easier to get married back in the day and why people stayed together.
They didn’t file for a get/divorce anytime the husband got upset or said a wrong word to them or didn’t take out the garbage!
Yes there are some guys out there who aren’t serious. But today it is the girls who play games and simply have such demands and requirements that it seems they don’t mind being alone their whole life rather than ‘settling” for any less than a prince.
So many good guys out there who simply aren’t given a chance. These girls would be considered lucky to have them as a husband who would love and care for them more than they could imagine. Yet most go for money and many end up regretting it since they get treated like nothing and it’s too late once they have 3 kids and realize this wasn’t what they wanted.
What happened to a woman would rather settle than be alone? In the Talmud. It seems like that is so far from today’s reality. Besides who’s settling? They aren’t even giving a chance to good guys who by the way work and learn Torah as well! Since when did money become such a Torah principle! “He has to look good, have a full time career, full time yeshiva bachur, and do all the chores around the house including taking care of the kids”! What world are we living in. Nowadays women feel they don’t even need to cook for the house. It’s 2020 equal rights. How is it equal if the man still has to work full time plus do all of her work or not expect anything from her not even to make food! Sick corrupted minds.
Still what a coincidence. Not saying it’s Moshe Rabbeinu, but could be symbolic
Shawl,white beard, brown skin tone, tall…location. Over the river…what else