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  • in reply to: Question re: Ben Sorer U Moreh #664733

    wolf

    yes your logic is impeccable

    so go argue with the Daas Zekainim MiBaalei HaTosfos

    in reply to: Question re: Ben Sorer U Moreh #664731

    Rabbi Avigdor Miller, tzl states that anyone, like Paroh, can have his bechirah taken away by HaKodesh Barchu in certain inyonim. How that relates to Acher, ben Dosai and others, I don’t know.

    in reply to: Question re: Ben Sorer U Moreh #664730

    Wolf you need to understand how to answer the Kasha between bechira and Daas Hashem.

    Rambam gives the classic teretz

    in reply to: Question re: Ben Sorer U Moreh #664729

    If the Ben Sorer Umoreh is killed because of the act of murder that he will commit, why is his death penalty through stoning, if the Torah states that one who murders is put to death by Sayif – the sword? Daas Zekainim MiBaalei HaTosfos answers, since the pasuk states that the Ben Sorer Umoreh is “Einenu Shomei’a B’Kol Aviv U’BKol Imo. “He does not listen to the voice of his parents” – that is considered as if he was Mikallel Aviv V’Imo – he cursed his parents. The Torah states that one who curses his parents is Chayiv Skilah – death by stoning.

    in reply to: Question re: Ben Sorer U Moreh #664725

    Thanks mybat

    (and everyone else)

    in reply to: Inspiring Quotes #1084710

    3. pave the way to or for, to prepare for and facilitate the entrance of; lead up to: His analysis of the college market paved the way for their entry into textbook publishing.

    in reply to: Question re: Ben Sorer U Moreh #664717

    he will be a vadai killer, so we give him the sekila now.

    The only problem with that is that we don’t give skilah for murder (or theft either)

    but we do give it for chillul Shabbos and I believe Rav Pinchus mentioned this (though I don’t believe the Gemorrah in Sanhedrin does)

    in reply to: Labels – How Do You See Yourself? How Do Others See You? #662593

    I could care less

    So there is room for caring less, implying that you do care to some degree. 😉

    in reply to: Question re: Ben Sorer U Moreh #664715

    Jothar, If your interpretation is correct, it sounds exactly like what Joseph was suggesting in his last post. It would take me ten minutes to read it, but I’ll accept your summary. That’s not what the Gemorrah seems to say in Sanhedrin, but I would never presume to disagree with Rav Pinchus, tz’l, Chas v Shalom.

    in reply to: Question re: Ben Sorer U Moreh #664714

    SJ

    That makes a lot of sense.

    According to the Sages, it never happened and never will. There is one Amora (Tanna maybe?) who states not only did it happen but he saw it and sat on the grave of the BSuM

    in reply to: Question re: Ben Sorer U Moreh #664710

    What I am postulating is that, per the Gur Aryeh’s understanding, the reason that the Torah poskin’s skilah, is because the Torah is taking into account the BSuM’s future behavior and punishing him for that future behavior now.

    I like postulation, but I may have mentioned before, the Gemorrah in Sanhedrin, (7th Perek?, a few blatt, I don’t recall which) makes it clear that it is not a punishment.

    In case I didn’t mention it, it is not a punishment.

    In case I didn’t mention it it here, please see every one of my preceding six posts.

    the Gur Aryeh is fascinating though. I’d love to know more about it.

    in reply to: Question re: Ben Sorer U Moreh #664708

    Joseph, your understanding could be correct (though it needs a lot more explanation of what he meant, as on the surface it contradicts all the principles found in Sanhedrin), but that has nothing to do with the kasha I presented.

    Again: …the Bais Din takes nothing into account here except whether or not the child fits the criteria to be poskined a BSuM. His din is already established specifically in the Torah. The Bais Din is taking nothing into account except whether or not the criteria for BSuM have been met. They are not deciding a punishment.

    Why did the Torah poskin skilah? Again THIS IS NOT A PUNISHMENT for future sins.

    It is a PREVENTION of future sins.

    in reply to: Question re: Ben Sorer U Moreh #664706

    Joseph, fine, but the Bais Din takes nothing into account here except whether or not the child fits the criteria to be poskined a BSuM. His din is already established specifically in the Torah.

    Why did the Torah poskin skilah? Again THIS IS NOT A PUNISHMENT for future sins.

    in reply to: Question re: Ben Sorer U Moreh #664704

    Specifically, the role of the human court system is to save wrongdoers from the punishment that they will obtain at the hands of Heaven. If it will further that goal, a human court can take a person’s future into account. (Gur Aryeh)

    The Bais Din cannot punish for sins a person will likely commit. They can take that into account in deciding whether or not to punish a person, in order to benefit the whole of the community. For example, there is a case in the Gemorrah where Bais Din cut off a thiefs hand because thievery was rampant then. This is not nogayah to the question here. The sentence of the BSuM is given in the Torah. Regardless of this side issue it is clear from the Gemorrah that this case is NOT A PUNISHMENT.

    Why skilah?

    in reply to: Question re: Ben Sorer U Moreh #664703

    unique punishment assigned for the entire LIFE of cold-blooded murder that would have been

    Thank you Dovid but I believe it doesn’t answer the question.

    According to my understanding of the Gemorrah in Sanhendrin, and I’m pretty sure this is the pashut pshat, he is NOT BEING PUNISHED, the Bais Din, both m’ailah and m’ata does not punish for future sins! This is clear, i.e. Yishmael.

    It is is clear that this misah is a chesed to PREVENT him from carrying out these potential sins. That is the key to the kasha.

    in reply to: General Shmooze 2 #680686

    NEWARK, Del. – A Delaware first-grader, 6 years old, who wanted to eat lunch at school with his favorite camping utensil, a combination of folding fork, knife and spoon, now faces 45 days in the district’s alternative school for troublemakers.

    The folding knife is banned as a dangerous instrument under the Christina School District’s zero-tolerance policy in the student code of conduct, and officials said they have to act regardless of his age or what he planned to do with the instrument.

    Zachary is being homeschooled for now.

    Zachary was ordered to spend 45 days at the Douglass School, an alternative school for children who violate the district’s code of conduct. Students there participate in behavior modification programs and receive counseling.

    Schooley, a former Christina school board member: “If it were my child, I would do everything not to send my child there.”

    in reply to: Modern Orthodox Judaism #663486

    joseph

    Can you perhaps post a FEW relevant quotes from those articles, that capture the essence?

    I don’t know about anyone else but I don’t have the time to read your post.

    in reply to: Chinese Cookies #662158

    Not anymore. They only have advice or “wise” sayings. They don’t want to get sued.

    in reply to: Drinking On SImchas Torah #661935

    Im makpid on straight burbon.

    Anyone else?

    yes i dont drink it either

    in reply to: The Laboratory II – Try Your HTML & ASCII Art Experiments Here #1053966

    Moderators are allowed to make up rules.

    in reply to: The Laboratory II – Try Your HTML & ASCII Art Experiments Here #1053961

    EXCELLENT plonis

    in reply to: Silence Is Golden #661381

    I use facetious and sarcastic in a similar way.

    To say something you hold clearly isn’t true, maybe even the opposite, often exaggerated, in a manner that you intend it to be clear that you mean the opposite or something different.

    Like if you see someone having trouble lifting a light load and you say: “You must be Mr. Universe.” That to me would be sarcastic.

    Facetious to me would be something similar but without implied negative tones perhaps.

    Two words I guess I use loosely perhaps incorrectly, but most people would probably understand my meaning quite well

    in reply to: Silence Is Golden #661378

    I looked it up also wolf but the definition didn’t seem quite right to me. How would you define it, in other words how do you personally use the word

    in reply to: Silence Is Golden #661376

    I dont really know exactly. To my mind it is kind of like sarcastic but with milder overtones.

    in reply to: Silence Is Golden #661374

    I know. I was thinking you might very well be right. I wasn’t being facetious

    in reply to: Silence Is Golden #661372

    wolf

    I recently saw someone (an adult with a beard and black hat) texting (b’li safek), and not answering, during Kaddish. Could be an emergency I suppose.

    in reply to: Silence Is Golden #661367

    The origin of the term “duct tape” is the subject of some disagreement.

    One view[17] is that it was called “duck tape” by WWII soldiers either because it resembled strips of cotton duck or because the waterproof quality of the tape contributed to the name, by analogy to the water-shedding quality of a duck’s plumage. Under this view, soldiers returning home from the war found uses for duck tape around the house, where tents were forgotten and ductwork needed sealing, not ammunition cases. Other proponents of this view point to older references to non-adhesive cotton duck tape used in Venetian blinds, suggesting that the name was carried over to the adhesive product. The Oxford English Dictionary says that perhaps “duct tape” was originally “duck tape”. This view is summarized most notably in a New York Times article by etymologist William Safire in March 2003. Safire cites use of the term “cotton duck tape” in a 1945 advertisement for surplus government property.[18] The Oxford English Dictionary gives a 1902 quotation for “100,000 yards of cotton duck tape” being used to protect the cables of the Brooklyn Bridge.[19] Thus a fabric duck tape was available to which an adhesive could have been added.

    The other view is that “duct tape” is the original term, since there are many documented uses of that term which pre-date all documented uses of the term “duck tape” for the adhesive-backed product, and that there is no written evidence supporting the WWII story.[20] Some proponents of this view accept the idea that there was an earlier non-adhesive “duck tape”, but claim that people have just confused the similar pronunciation of two similar but unrelated products through the process of elision, and that the rest of the “duck” etymology is folklore or fabrication. This view was summarized most notably in a Boston Globe article by etymologist Jan Freeman, also in March 2003.[21]

    In any case, whether it is an error or a preservation of the original usage, the term “duck tape” is sometimes used for the product today.[22] Duck Tape is also a brand name for this product in some countries.

    –wikipedia–

    in reply to: Mods? Mods? #1107700

    And let’s give a big Welcome to HIE!

    in reply to: Mods? Mods? #1107671

    I’m sorry mepal, et, al.

    I really have to leave right now.

    in reply to: Mods? Mods? #1107670

    I’m back. Post away!

    in reply to: Mods? Mods? #1107666

    Since you like warnings, I have to leave right now for about 15 minutes

    in reply to: Mods? Mods? #1107664

    I’m leaving in about half an hour. If 26 isn’t back by then, Good Luck

    in reply to: Mods? Mods? #1107662

    26 hasn’t been around much lately. Now you know what it’s like when 26 isn’t here.

    in reply to: The Laboratory II – Try Your HTML & ASCII Art Experiments Here #1053939

    plonis

    like this:

    <X>yourtexthere</X>

    substitute the small letter “a” for the X

    in reply to: A Humorous Item #1173672

    Very funny!

    in reply to: Kapparos: Chickens, Fish, or Money? #661119

    This thread has been interesting but has begun to mature past it’s prime. I think everyone has had a chance to post his view, (many times over)

    CLOSED

    in reply to: Mods? Mods? #1107606

    You mean the Moderator 80 imposter. We’re still comparing DNA samples. By the way why haven’t you submitted yours yet?

    in reply to: Mods? Mods? #1107603

    You should know that 26 was instrumental in tracking down the mky impostor, and it was 26 who was responsible for putting a stop to it.

    in reply to: The Laboratory II – Try Your HTML & ASCII Art Experiments Here #1053912

    Good question. However if you google it you will see about 20, 000 other people who also use that word, so maybe we will see it the the next edition of Miriam Webstar.

    in reply to: The Laboratory II – Try Your HTML & ASCII Art Experiments Here #1053908

    To put squeak’s post in context: I had asked him what kind of jest, then I edited out that question because I didn’t understand what I meant. Meanwhile he seems to have understood the question and answerwed it.

    in reply to: The Laboratory II – Try Your HTML & ASCII Art Experiments Here #1053906

    I copied and pasted, so although I am clearly jesting in general, I don’t know enough about Dorset that I would be able to jest about it in particular.

    in reply to: Random Questions #1081455

    Squeak have you inferred or are you implying that I am a female?

    in reply to: Beef sauce #662142

    Steak sauce, either A1 or Heinz 57. Also Worcestershire sauce, but make sure there is no fish in it.

    in reply to: The Laboratory II – Try Your HTML & ASCII Art Experiments Here #1053898

    whats a backtick

    Lyme disease is a disease carried by hard back ticks which usually live on deer. Although it is not common in Dorset one or two cases are reported each year. It is not serious if caught early and can quickly and successfully be treated with antibiotics.

    in reply to: The Laboratory II – Try Your HTML & ASCII Art Experiments Here #1053895

    Don’t back ticks carry Lyme Disease?

    in reply to: The Laboratory II – Try Your HTML & ASCII Art Experiments Here #1053890

    Good Question. I had the same problem.

    in reply to: Oichel Nefesh on Yom Tov #898013

    I don’t recall exactly when and where (or was it “where oh where”) I learned that squeak, but I found this just now:

    [6]

    from this website

    http://www.shemayisrael.com/parsha/ostroff/archives/shabbos5_23.htm

    in reply to: Oichel Nefesh on Yom Tov #898010

    You can squeeze your hair directly into a towel (solid to solid) just like you can squeeze a lemon directly onto fish. You can’t squeeze your hair so the water goes onto the floor (but even this is only d’Rabbonon because you don’t want the water and it is not being collected)

    in reply to: Post Here – So We Know You’re In The CR #905983

    Shabbos is coming

    in reply to: Random Questions #1081435

    ATTENTION

    I just got back from a long coffee-break. It seems an intruder took over my control period for a half-hour or so. There was very little evidence left, but the security team is going over the area as I write. We will find the intruder. Right now however, all that the techs have found is a small amount of some green debris. Possibly some kind of cabbage.

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