Rabbi Dror Aryeh, a Rosh Mesivta in Sderot Yeshiva, said that talmidim at his yeshivah are considering filing a petition to the Supreme Court demanding equality between combat units, with Dati Leumi talmidim receiving strictly gender-segregated units like the Chareidi Chashmonaim Brigade.
The IDF also promised gender-segregated units to Dati Leumi talmidim, but the promise has not been fulfilled, and a “mixed-service agenda” seeped into the battlefield during the recent war in Gaza.
In an interview with Kan Moreshet, Rabbi Aryeh referred to the remarks he made at an emergency conference of Dati Leumi Rabbanim in the wake of the IDF’s intention to advance a pilot program to integrate women into the front-line combat units of the Armored Corps’s tank crews
In his remarks, he said that the implementation of the army’s gender separation regulations was violated during the war, creating situations in which male and female soldiers stayed in close quarters with no gender segregation, contrary to existing directives.
Rabbi Aryeh also addressed proposals for separate combat units, saying that talmidim at Sderot Yeshiva are considering filing a petition to the Supreme Court in the name of equality. “The demand is, ‘What is given to Chashmonaim should be given to us too,” he said.
He clarified that this is a cry stemming from a sense of responsibility and not an attempt to dismantle the army.
He emphasized that the lack of gender separation is not only a halachic issue but a professional one as well. “They take the victims of this agenda and insert them into the combat units, and it also harms the kedushah of the machaneh.” He added that the entry of women into combat units is effectively discriminating against soldiers who are makpid on halacha.
He concluded his remarks by stating that the main demand is a principled one, noting, “We are a Jewish army,” and emphasized the need for Siyata Dishmaya and preserving the kedushah of the machaneh as an inseparable part of the IDF’s ability to meet security challenges.
(YWN Israel Desk—Jerusalem)
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This is what happens when you put your faith and trust in people that despise Torah and mitzvos, you end up disappointed and rejected over and over again. You think they want to comply with religious demands? Maybe if all these students and yeshiva’s went on strike and said screw it we’re not serving until you meet our demands, instead of risking souls and just hoping for the best to happen
The chilonim are disappearing the DL are seeing the light you gotta love it
The foolish Dati Leumi crowd is very nieve. They are simple people like many sfardim who believe what the fat cat pork eating army leftist elite along with their evil Supreme Court. The Chareidim are a lot shrewder. Our leaders like the old Satmar rebbe realized how these tziyonim want to destroy Judaism.
The same IDF that reneged on their promises to the Dati Leumi soldiers did the same to the Chareidi soldiers, only more slowly and less blatantly. Even that is only because they know that the Dati Leumi will keep sending their kids to be cannon fodder ברוחניות ובגשמיות, no matter how much the IDF mistreats them ברוחניות ובגשמיות [despite their being the best and most loyal soldiers by all accounts.]
Why would they settle for less than what the Torah requires to begin with? Maybe it’s time to stop making fun of the rabbis on the other side who have been warning about this stuff since the state was founded. It’s time to stop risking holy neshamos
Flatbush YID. They are NOT foolish. Neither are the sfardim. They are yidden like you (hopefuly your a yid)
If they can get the army to let them keep a kosher life. Then maybe I believe that moshiach is coming. I don’t think it will happen, and if it does it won’t last. But if they can do it. I start believing moshiach gonna come.
so this shows that charedi soldiers are getting the right accommodations contrary to some claims. Also, note that the problem happened only during the war, not in peacetime. It may be easier for IDF to offer accommodations to charedi soldiers who are presumably not very trained and provide less value than some of DL who might be involved in important mission. At some point, the mission is more important than the accommodations. Ask Yael.
re: Flatbush yid
Good job. You managed to insult two outstanding and G-d fearing communities of Jews, Sfardim and Dati Leumi. Both active in settling and building up Eretz Yisrael in preparation for the final Geula. I suggest you remain in Flatbush, because if you come to E”Y you’ll be vomited out.
Don’t be surprised if the bagatz outlaws all gender separation.
Any DL people who join an army run by pork eaters and worse is foolish. Do you go into a church and expect kosher chulent or kigel. NO
After the DL crowd was evicted from their homes in gush katif they all should have moved to meah shearim and joined the Chareidim in the fight against the Israeli atheistic pork eaters. But they didn’t. They kept sending their kids to an army full of gays,girls and trans. Is that a smart thing to do.
Ysam you are correct. The same courts that insisted no seperate mechitzahs
For Yom Kippur services caused the Oct 7 massacre.
Chaim boruch
As long as you allow public chillul shabbos and Sodom parades the building is in vain. The land of Israel is vomiting out all non Chareidim as they allow the Torah to be stepped on. Did any DL rabbis protest chillul shabbos. They are nebech brainwashed tinok shenishba who can wave an Israeli flag when their government right wing in fact kicked them out like stray dogs from their homes. They went like sheep to the slaughter. They gave up their guns like mommas boys and left their beautiful big homes. Had they not been so brainwashed by the secular Zionist leaders they would come out with a thousand of their members with guns. The israelivl government would have backed off as they would lose hundreds of soldiers. But they went like lemmelech.