April 15, 2019 1:50 pm at 1:50 pm #1714865
Did YWN cave to pressure and remove the news item about unrest in Lakewood over last night’s cancelled event? If so, what did the “geichazi’s” threaten you with that scared you to the point of self-censorship?April 15, 2019 2:29 pm at 2:29 pm #1715023Neville ChaimBerlinParticipant
Wouldn’t be surprising. They look out for their people over on the home page. It’s much more partisan than the great CR melting pot.April 15, 2019 2:47 pm at 2:47 pm #1715026
CHAOS IN LAKEWOOD: Hundreds of Yeshiva Bochrim Protest After Kosher Bain Hazmanim Event Canceled; Heavy Police Response, Arrest Made.
What was supposed to be a pleasant evening of Kosher entertainment for hundreds of Yeshiva Bochrim in Lakewood has turned into night of absolute chaos Sunday night.
The event was going to give the Bochrim currently on Bain Hazmanim a night of entertainment, including live music and singing by Isaac Honig and Beri Weber, along with a Siyum and speeches by several local Mechanichim.
But instead, the event was canceled at the last minute after a small group of people persuaded the Roshei Yeshiva that this event – for Bochrim only – must be stopped at all cost.
The organizer was threatened into canceling, and was shown a “Kol Koreh” that was to be published with his name, banning the event.
The organizers caved, and the event was canceled. Of course, they promise to repay him the nearly $30,000 he lost.
Hundreds of Bochrim were angry as they had already purchased tickets, and decided to make Kumzits/protest at the homes of those who had the event banned
Dozens upon dozens of police officers were mobilized for crowd control, and officers from nearby Jackson, Brick, Manchester and Toms River were requested. K9 unites were on scene.
As of this posting there has been a confirmed arrest. 3 boys were treated after being pepper sprayed.
What could of been a beautiful, calm event for those boys that needed it, turned into a colossal Chillul Hashem.
Sources tell YWN that the same people that had a Kol Koreh issued telling people to boycott and not advertise on recently constructed billboards in Lakewood — without ever caling the proprietor who invested hundreds of thousands of dollars on them — are the same individuals behind this latest ban.
theres the full text. lets see if the CR lets it through…April 15, 2019 2:47 pm at 2:47 pm #1715016
What happens in Lakewood, stays in Lakewod, kal v’chomor from Vegas.April 15, 2019 2:47 pm at 2:47 pm #1715013rationalParticipant
cave in to pressureApril 15, 2019 5:08 pm at 5:08 pm #1715080April 15, 2019 5:08 pm at 5:08 pm #1715106bk613Participant
I do believe that caved to pressure and in my opinion that is cowerdly.April 15, 2019 5:08 pm at 5:08 pm #1715125Doing my bestParticipant
Probably Same mafia that shut concert attacked ywnApril 15, 2019 7:23 pm at 7:23 pm #1715165avreimiParticipant
No one caved in. YWN simply listened to the park of the Rabbonim Shlita who said this terrible event should be cancelled for the good of Klal Yisroel. Who can have any quarrel with that? Surely the Rabbonim Shlita would also have liked to relax a little after a long and taxing zman but they are always first to consider he benefit if Klal Yisroel, B”H. We are so lucky to have such leaders Shlita.April 15, 2019 11:02 pm at 11:02 pm #1715218ZionGateParticipant
Terrible event? Good of Klal Yisrael?April 15, 2019 11:04 pm at 11:04 pm #1715219GadolhadorahParticipant
“Instead, the event was canceled at the last minute after a small group of people persuaded the Roshei Yeshiva that this event – for Bochrim only – must be stopped at all cost….”
This implies that the event might was cancelled because it was for “Bhochrim Only” . So did the rabbonim who were ready to issue the kol koreh want it to be open for girls as well?? I very much doubt it, even if there had been separate seating. So what was their real objection?April 15, 2019 11:05 pm at 11:05 pm #1715233
“YWN simply listened to the park of the Rabbonim Shlita who said this terrible event should be cancelled for the good of Klal Yisroel”
How sweet of you to answer for YWN! Since you are so knowledgeable, please explain what was so terrible about this event. Also, what does listening to the “park” (whatever that is) of the Rabbonim, Shlita, have to do with censoring the story?April 15, 2019 11:05 pm at 11:05 pm #1715234👑RebYidd23Participant
What park spoke to YWN?April 15, 2019 11:09 pm at 11:09 pm #1715263
Avrumi was obviously being sarcastic. Shlita.April 16, 2019 1:33 am at 1:33 am #1715281HabochurParticipant
No reason they removed the article. I thought at least one news outlet will side with the bochurim but I was wrong even ywn caved in on this topic and removed it. What has the world come toApril 16, 2019 10:46 am at 10:46 am #1715305MoysheleParticipant
I am assuming that Avreimi’s auto spell changed the word “psak” to “park”.
I too have been left bitterly disappointed after similar situations in the past. But I have learned to believe in Emunas Chachomim.
The Rabbonim have a responsibility to Klal Yisroel as whole, now and for the future. And they therefore view the situation in a much bigger context.
I don’t have to understand “why”. But when I keep an open mind I always come to see that they have a much clearer and longsighted understanding than what I expected.April 16, 2019 10:48 am at 10:48 am #1715355lakewhutParticipant
They also stopped allowing comments on the Notre Dame fire. They also deleted a bunch.April 16, 2019 11:59 am at 11:59 am #1715475Jerusalem observerParticipant
There is a great difference between the Lakewood story and the Fench church story. The Lakewood story, aside of the despicable behavior of a very few bochurim towards the police, is solely an internal matter. The French church story enabled many thinking Yidden to express very bluntly what asher buchar buni really means. That leaves many people feeling very uncomfortable, including so it seems the censors of YWN.April 16, 2019 12:34 pm at 12:34 pm #1715523LerntminTayrahParticipant
Rav Aharon Kotler zt”l was famous for his kanaus. Rav Eya Svei zt”l kept up his mesoireh, and it is good to see the tzurva meirabanans of Lakewood today keeping the same mesoireh.
I disagree with it but I appreciate both sides.April 16, 2019 12:50 pm at 12:50 pm #1715543Neville ChaimBerlinParticipant
“They also stopped allowing comments on the Notre Dame fire. They also deleted a bunch.”
The comments were basically what an onlooker would consider Jewish Supremacism. Celebrating a national tragedy openly on mass media is a great way to make enemies.April 16, 2019 1:15 pm at 1:15 pm #1715548HeargodParticipant
What I want to know, is the reason that was given to get it cancled.
Why doesn’t ywn report that rather than take down the story.April 16, 2019 1:41 pm at 1:41 pm #1715545YossefDParticipant
tbh this is another example of the real shame…people using our holy and revered gedolim to further an agenda, become very prevalent now, in today’s day and age that here are those that are actually USING our rabbis to do what they wantApril 16, 2019 1:41 pm at 1:41 pm #1715554
Jerusalem, the church story was correct in being censored – many nonjews read this site and we don’t want to make a chillul hashem.
The lakewood story, on the other hand, should not have been censored. The tzibbor has to know what happens when extremists control a frum community and 30-year old immature avreichim ruin a night of hissorerrus that many were looking forward to just because they feel the need gto impose their frumkeit on others.April 16, 2019 3:10 pm at 3:10 pm #1715569motchah11Participant
I don’t see a chillul Hashem about the Notre Dame story. Perhaps in the comments, you mean?April 16, 2019 3:14 pm at 3:14 pm #1715592
There have been a number of comments from readers but no response from YWN. Are the mods going to explain why the article was pulled or have you all been threatened by the geichazis with “omerta or else”?April 16, 2019 4:34 pm at 4:34 pm #1715725american_yerushalmiParticipant
RockStar: you claim that YWN was worried about chilul Hashem surrounding the Paris fire in the eyes of the non-Jews who might read the article. I find this reasoning somewhat difficult to grasp. What about some articles against about whomever the powers that be at YWN consider “extremist” or “too-frum” or “un-zionist?” And then publishing often appallingly vile readers’ comments against the “extremists” — remarks that are sometimes seem better suited for a neo-Nazi website? Do the gentiles not read those articles and comments? When those non-Jews see how some frum Jews publicly talk/write about other frum Jews — isn’t this also a chilul Hashem?April 25, 2019 4:20 pm at 4:20 pm #1719435☢️ 🚭 ☣️ Rand0m3x 🧠🕴️🎲Participant
True. Let us say instead that it was to prevent people from antagonizing non-Jews.
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