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To rescue
That’s your loss. I tried to be nice but you’re so full of anger nothing will get through.
To the group
Does anyone know what LA boy is talking about? Who said that he isn’t part of Klal Yisrael?
No it’s not my loss quaurty. It’s my gain. I don’t have time for hot air arguments based in la la land. So actually if I were to listen to your dumb whatever, I’d be wasting my time. But thanks so much for your “kindness”
Maybe one day when you look in the mirror and actually look at your actions clearly maybe then you’ll understand why someone might get slightly frustrated with your asinine way of talking.
It’s called rightous anger.
It’s called for especially with how twisted your logic is and how full of holes you are. It’s surprising you made it this far in life without falling smack on your faceTo rescue
I’d like to respond to your Zep comment. I was raised semi-frum. In my formative years all I cared about was sports and rock. In my early 30’s I realized that I wanted and needed Torah and now I learn about 7 hours a day. As for my Divrei Torah, I include references to sports, rock, TV movies whatever moves me. I disagree with the right-wing Rabbis who teach that everything secular is Treif. When I offered to send you my Divrei Torah it was with the idea that you’d understand how far away I am from what you’d like to believe I am, but apparently, you’re so full of hate that nothing can penetrate. Well, that’s your problem. As they say, ‘You can lead a horse to water, but you can’t make him drink.” One day Hashem will take you to task for not accepting my offer but by then it will be too late for you.
Here are the facts.
Drive around the streets of crown heights and see that so many boys and girls are OTD. Yet among shlichim in areas that have hardly a religious Jew their children turn out more inspired than the youth in crown heights. A plane that sits around and does not fly gets worn out. A Jew who sits back and does not increase his avodas Hashem,falls back. Children of out of town shlichim are busy helping their parents doing outreach. They get inspired.Querty it was a retoricL question. I don’t really care what you have to say at this point. You prob should stop answering to save face you keep exposing yourself as a fraud to your own upringing. Maybe when you admit reality exist. Like words have distinct meanings, common sense is real. You know like reality. Basic concepts. Maybe we can have a discussion until then just shove it. Ok?
I also don’t think proving to me how far away you are from whatever. I don’t care. And this isn’t hatred this is reaction by your own sick twisted behavior on how you treat people. Your an insufferable person. First you insult me, villify me call me names. Degrade me humiliate me all over having a normal oppion, and then you have the audacity to say “if you draw a horse to water you can’t make him drink”
Since when were you talking to me in a decent enough manner that I would want to listen to you. All you’ve done is degrade me over the pettiest thing. Please. The only person who needs to change his disgusting behaviour here is you. Please. Your a sick person honestly. Very sick and very sad. I almost feel bad for you. But no actually I don’tMods don’t post that last post. Let this guy live in his delusions. Post the second to last ones tho
Querty did I hear you say “if you draw a horse to water”
Right, so you can villify someone, make fun of someone humiliate them for having a critical thinking oppion, somehow that’s you “drawing a horse to water” the amount of insufferable delusion you live with. Wow. I wonder what mental gymnastics you have to jump through so you don’t have to face reality. Maybe tell us so we can learn how to live a full life without facing reality we really want to knowWhat are you”making me drink” not one word you said was decent, not one argument you brought to the table fallows logic. All you have is insults And Villificatjkn and you expect people to listen to you because?
You have nothing to bring to the table except insults and chAractor assisnations and you expect people to listen to you. Your insufferable and slightly cruel. It would be smart to stop exposing yourself thers nothing your saying that holds “water” so maybe when you have something decent to say. A part of the conversation you want to actually converse like a normal person then maybe someone will take you seriously until then you just seem like, the bottom of the barrel. I don’t have interest in any of your viewpoints as none of them refuted mine. So please stop being so stuck up to say you drew anyone to “water” you draw everyone to the swamp. Nobody is drinking from your swamp. SorryWell, that was alot of comebacks. But querty I think you got the point
To Flatbush Yid
I would agree with your assessment, but I would just question whether Chabad Kiruv really accomplishes anything. I do agree that when a couple goes out on Shlichis the entire family feels a joint sense of purpose and it tends to keep the kids on the Derech. Unfortunately, the Chabad derech leaves much to be desired. In your opinion is the OTD problem worse in CH than in other communities?
why is this part of their hashkafa different than the rest of their hashkafa the pount is they put to much emphasis on the rebbe so this is one of the problems that nemtzach from that
To ShtarkKeit
Your point is well taken and I’d like to elaborate. There are two ways to develop Dveikus to Hashem. The first is through Mitzvohs, e.g. preparing for Pesach etc. Lubavichers do that, as well or better, than mainstream Jews. The second is to work on improving oneself. This is the area where Chabad doesn’t rate, because there’s no concept of an all-seeing Eye in the sky who records everything. Instead, their focus is on doing those things which they think will make the Rebbe happy.
Querty….that’s a stretch
Querty believing there’s an “eye in the sky” doesn’t make you superior. Just means you have no internal moral compass and you need fear mongering to keep you in line that’s not a flex that just shows that your moral compass is so corrupted you need someone to tell you what to do or threaten punishment in order for you to do the right thing. That’s actually an inferior approach to life. Not that I agree with chabad but perhaps chassidus or their pivot from fear based thinking to more happiness based worship is more in line with overall peace of mind?
To rescue
I would think that you would totally endorse Chabad. According to their leading Rabbi, Manis Friedman, G-d no longer punishes sinners, so you would like that. On the other hand, all Lubavichers are required to accept that Schneersohn is Moshiach, and I don’t see you a someone who likes being told what to believe. One thing, “Where do you get this idea that I think I’m better than anyone?” I have many Rabbis and I defer to them at all times because they know far more than I do. Of course, they enjoy my Diveri Torah because, all modesty aside, I’m a talented writer. As for your comment, “That’s a stretch.” No, it isn’t. My son was at a shul several months ago. There were two Chabad OTD’s there, both now in Ivy League colleges. They recounted that when they were in Yeshiva their Rabbi would go around the classroom every day and ask each boy how he connected to the Rebbe the previous day. They are trained to deify Schneersohn. I know this because I see it. As I’ve stated I attend a Chabad shul during the week, and I see how the Rabbis brainwash their kids.
I hear what your saying querty, but I’m not sure what that has to do with I said.
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