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    yankel> the late rebbi of habad never attended any yeshiva … even during his yeshiva years ….
    he probably learnt either by himself or under his father r levi
    so what I wrote was accurate : the only institutions he attended were universities …
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    I am confused – are these your words or you are quoting Talmidei Chachomim.

    The eplanation you gave sounds like something from chatgpt or from a seminary girl perusing resumes – “the only institution he attended …”. I presume he learned from his father. His youth was during WW1 and post that. R Soloveichik I believe also learned only with his father (after the mother discovered that his early chabad rebbe was not rigorous enough) and later with visits to R Chaim Ozer. R Eliezer learnt in the desert from only his father. Yitzhak learned from his father …

    And his university studies were while running away from tzoros in Eastern Europe in late 20s. He did not even study humanities, just some modern physics, calculus and mechanical engineering. how does this pasel someone?!

    again, if these are your own suggestions, that’s ok. I was afraid that some learnt people are saying this.

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    yankel berel
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    Am not ‘paseling’ anyone in a black and white manner because they never attended any institution besides universities

    am putting their later statements and policies into the context of their formative years

    the formative years are a very important factor into shaping their ultimate personality

    thats all .
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    I am not an expert on L Rebbe, but I know a little about math & engineering. I do not see much of academic influence on L Rebbe Torah, aside from occasional references to scientific facts. This is in contrast with R Soloveitchik, R Hirsh, Rambam who are able to use their knowledge of science within their Torah, and there is nothing wrong with that.

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    yankel berel
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    @AAQ

    ok

    at least we agree on the facts then , the only institutions he ever attended were universities ….

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    yankel> the only institutions he ever attended were universities

    As I don’t understand how this related to LR’s credentials in Torah, I’m forced to point out that
    bringing irrelevant info, hinting to some negativity, is not emes, it is pure genivah daas and lashon harah.

    R Eliezer b’ Shimon skipped most of the school and was hanging out in the desert. Yitzhak Avinu was hanging out
    with Avimelech and his general. These are all facts, but these would be ridiculous statements.

    To reddem yourself, maybe you can bring some of the LRs Torah and show how it connects to his university education (which is not a hesaron by itself, of course) and then show how it eads to some questionable conclusions.

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