May 4, 2021 1:44 am at 1:44 am #1970715
@torahvaluesoverparty I meant that the Democrats failed to stop the audit.
@Health Apparently she was a temp that was there for a few days. She never gave any details to what she saw beyond what you’ve already wrote. She didn’t say what day it happened on, what time, the words that were spoken, how many times she saw it happen, or any details that could have lead to any legal action. All she said was what some of other Trump supporting poll watchers said: “There was shady stuff going on, pretty sure about that, but I can’t give specifics”. Literally thousands of people watching polling sites for the slightest wrong move, and the strongest witness testimonies all seem to be these vague statements like “We were told to leave the room so there may have been fraud then” or “There was voter intimidation but I don’t know who, how, where, or when”.May 4, 2021 12:36 pm at 12:36 pm #1970920
Yesr -“All she said was what some of other Trump supporting poll watchers said: “There was shady stuff going on, pretty sure about that, but I can’t give specifics”. Literally thousands of people watching polling sites for the slightest wrong move, and the strongest witness testimonies all seem to be these vague statements like “We were told to leave the room so there may have been fraud then” or “There was voter intimidation but I don’t know who, how, where, or when”.
When will you Stop the lying?!?
The poll watchers were put far away from observating the counting!
The DemonCrats are like that Nazi who said -“If you repeat a lie enough times, it becomes believable”.
“Apparently she was a temp that was there for a few days. She never gave any details to what she saw beyond what you’ve already wrote. She didn’t say what day it happened on, what time, the words that were spoken, how many times she saw it happen, or any details that could have lead to any legal action.”
It was at the beginning of her assignment.
They were given orders from their Supervisors!
This is called Corruption!
“The complaint, relying on affidavits from Jacob and others, alleges poll workers were instructed by election officials to not verify signatures on absentee ballots and process them regardless of their validity.”
Do you see in this statement “and others”?!?
Do you only rely on the Fake News to get all your information?!?May 4, 2021 12:43 pm at 12:43 pm #1970930
Just pointing out, this audit in Arizona is not about who won the 2020 elections. As per Arizona State Law, it is unlawful to conduct a recount at this point. From a legal standpoint, there is nothing new to see.May 6, 2021 12:18 pm at 12:18 pm #1971515
@Health Right now, what we’re arguing is whether or not a statement given by an individual alleging fraud has any truthiness if they refuse to name names, places, or times under oath. Myself (and pretty much every lawyer on the planet) says no. You say otherwise. Let’s move on.
You are continuing to ignore the specific cases and rebuttals I brought down in favor of this NewsMax non-story about a woman alleging fraud. Nu?May 6, 2021 2:50 pm at 2:50 pm #1971575
Yesr -“Right now, what we’re arguing is whether or not a statement given by an individual alleging fraud has any truthiness if they refuse to name names, places, or times under oath. ”
She didn’t give names because she didn’t know them. Because she was a Temp.
Again the place was in the TCF Center.
The time was at the beginning of the Counting there.
She was a long time employee of the Detroit Government.
She stuck her neck out being a Whistleblower!
I guess in this Commy Country, that they Only believe Whistleblowers against Conservatives!
When it came to the Whistleblower against the Bidens from his Former Business Partner –
The Government Sees No Evil, Hears No Evil, Speaks No Evil!
Do you Lib Leftists really think that if you repeat the same Lies over & over, that it will be Believed?!?
Again all these cases should have been brought up to SCOTUS right away.
But you Leftists are So Conniving, that you got the Fake News to present Chief J. Roberts as a Conservative.
He’s a real Big Liberal!
He stopped all the Election Cases, by not hearing them right away.
No real Justice would be Scared of the PC.
Unless he’s Really a Lib Leftist!May 6, 2021 3:20 pm at 3:20 pm #1971646
@Health I’m sorry, but for my and your own mental health I think I’m going to have to stop you here. You are not sounding like a reasonable person. You’re repeating half-truths while ignoring whole-truths. You’re not being calm and rational, you’re just using exclamation points everywhere and calling everyone who doesn’t agree with you 100% as “Liberal” or “Leftist”.
Please take things down a notch or ten and stick to facts. Then maybe we can talk.May 6, 2021 6:15 pm at 6:15 pm #1971670
Yesr -“You’re repeating half-truths while ignoring whole-truths”
Do you really think that I want to debate the 2020 election, with you?
No, I don’t.
All I want is to point out how the DemonCrats stole the election!
You call my posts half-truths – Why because it doesn’t jive ve the PC?!?
The facts are Trump won the 2020 Election.
Biden got between 40 – 60 million, but Trump got between 70 – 80 Million votes!May 7, 2021 8:56 am at 8:56 am #1971774ParticipantParticipant
wow health where’d you get those numbers from?May 7, 2021 11:04 am at 11:04 am #1971793
Just accept whatever Health says as fact. It is not worth asking for real sources.May 7, 2021 12:02 pm at 12:02 pm #1971840
@Health Then don’t debate! If you don’t want to accept my word and the value of my sources, then look up the sources yourself. Start by ignoring fake news like Russia Today, NewsMax, OAN, and DonaldJTrump dotcom. See what media from opposing sides have to say (i.e. FoxNews and CNN). If you read a story that was written when the event was still ongoing (i.e. “A polling judge is going to court over the fraud she saw”) find a follow up story to see what happened with it (“Polling judge who alleges fraud could not give a single concrete example and demonstrated a lack of knowledge of how polling works”). An easy way to research is to look at the bottom of a Wikipedia page and read the sources. There’s a few dozen pertaining to the fraud allegations on the page “2020 United States Presidential Elections” alone.
Good luck!May 7, 2021 12:56 pm at 12:56 pm #1971861
Oh Jackk, Participant -“wow health where’d you get those numbers from?”
From the site called NewsMax & from the evangelical websites.
They don’t believe the Fake News Media, like you 2 do!
we will no longer be approving your posts sourcing evangelical websites and we hope you will reconsider viewing them as sourcesMay 7, 2021 1:37 pm at 1:37 pm #1971868☕️coffee addictParticipant
Who says newsmax and oan are reporting fake news?
That might answer your problemMay 7, 2021 1:37 pm at 1:37 pm #1971867
Yesr -“See what media from opposing sides have to say (i.e. FoxNews and CNN).”
I wouldn’t go to Fake News Media sites – it’s called a waste of Time!
Fox news used to be Conservative, but now they’re more PC.
Btw, CNN lost half their Viewership once Trump wasn’t President anymore.
No wonder the DemonCrats only want to let in this Country everyone w/o any screening.
The more Dumb people you let in – the easier it is to Fool them!
Trump OTOH, wanted screening to make sure we get quality immigrants!
The DemonCrats screamed Discrimination!
That’s their go-to Word to Con e/o!
The problem is that they are the Real Racists, because they are saying that there aren’t any quality people that aren’t White!May 7, 2021 3:00 pm at 3:00 pm #1971874
To get back to the original question – if it wasn’t obvious before, it’s becoming even more obvious now that this is not an audit. It’s a hunt for even the flimsiest thread of evidence to hang a predetermined conclusion. What are democrats afraid of? Maybe they dislike confirmation bias nothingburgers — they have no calories, no fat, no nutritional value, but they taste disgusting and jam up the system with endless debate over nothingness. So called auditors are determined to find something. Will it be evidence? Doesn’t matter. Whatever they find, OAN and Newsmax will run with it, and a sizeable chunk of the country will believe it. The claims here by Torahvalues and Health, no doubt the echo of an echo chamber, that this is an openminded inquiry is too disingenuous for words.
So called auditors are looking for bamboo to prove that the ballots came from Asia.
The justice department has expressed concerns that the audit may violate federal law because safeguards are not being adequately safeguarded.
How ironic would it be if the so called auditors claimed to find the fraud they were desperately looking for, but in so doing they destroyed the evidence so no one could verify their findings. That would provide a satisfactory conclusion to the 2020 election. On the other hand, maybe that’s the whole point.
If you still believe there was fraud, nothing in the world will convince you otherwise. Democrats and normal republicans do not need to keep humoring you because it will never end.May 7, 2021 3:31 pm at 3:31 pm #1971877
I meant to write in my previous comment that ballots weren’t being adequately safeguarded.
Whether safeguards should be safeguarded is a very different issue.May 7, 2021 6:50 pm at 6:50 pm #1971879
se2015 – How many SN’S on YWN do you have?
Are you like me that only has one?
“It’s a hunt for even the flimsiest thread of evidence to hang a predetermined conclusion.
The claims here by Torahvalues and Health, no doubt the echo of an echo chamber, that this is an open minded inquiry is too disingenuous for words.”
I couldn’t care less if Arizona finds anything or not!
Ya’See I watched M. Lindel’s documentary a long time ago.
I believe the experts that this Election was Stolen!
All the Lying Libs can come up with to counter the Documentary – is Lindel’s is a Nut, it’s a Conspiracy theory, etc.
The problem with that was he was just the MC.
They never watched the Documentary, so they don’t even know that.
If you want to argue against 3 experts – you have to bring other experts saying the opposite!
But the DemonCrats already know that whatever they say – The DemonCrat Sheep will Believe!
All the DemonCrat Leaders had to do is Discredit Mike Lindel or anyone else that had the Guts to Stand Up against the PC!May 7, 2021 7:22 pm at 7:22 pm #1971897
Lindel is an elections expert? Where was he in 2000, 04, and 16? Or, what was his theories on any of the waves that turned Congress red or blue?
The real question is, why does this matter? The game is over and everyone left the ballpark. What is there to fight over?May 8, 2021 11:06 pm at 11:06 pm #1972018
Se2015, you’ve put together a nice word salad, which happens to lack a trace of sensibility. This whole narrative about democrats being concerned about “security” and “privacy” is unmitigated *enter-word-that-moderators-would-remove-of-your-choice-here*.
“Will it be evidence? Doesn’t matter. Whatever they find, OAN and Newsmax will run with it, and a sizeable chunk of the country will believe it. The claims here by Torahvalues and Health, no doubt the echo of an echo chamber,”-some more overblown airy nonsense, when the results are released, the facts can and will be debated, there is nothing wrong with that. If for example, “20,000 ballots lacked watermarks”, then yes there will need to be an answer for that. This is literally the most transparent audit in the history of audits, the concern of them “finding then destroying the evidence” so nobody can verify, is some more gaslighting plain stupidity, nobody is suggesting in such a case that they be granted any credibility. As I’ve said, lfi derach hatevah, democrats should be giddy with excitement, waiting breathlessly for the republicans to fall flat on their face, not doing everything possible to derail the audit. Yes, they are currently continuing to defy the state legislature-issued subpoena, holding back some routers…May 9, 2021 5:21 am at 5:21 am #1972046
This recount is costing a lot of money. And the only thing it could lead to, is a bunch of legislation that will waste more money. But, why does it matter to you? The whole debate is over. By hook or by crook, Biden is President. Embrace the future. Not the past.May 9, 2021 10:19 am at 10:19 am #1972119
N0mesorah “This recount is costing a lot of money. And the only thing it could lead to, is a bunch of legislation that will waste more money”-sorry, but I don’t buy that. “By hook or by crook, Biden is President. Embrace the future. Not the past.” Yes that is true, but as elections are the foundation of democracy, i think we deserve to know if the election was legit. Going foward, for future elections, it’s crucial that everyone trusts the process….May 9, 2021 3:24 pm at 3:24 pm #1972182
1. They had to pass legislation to come up with public funding for the audit. Arizona is one of the few states where even democrats are somewhat budget conscious. It’s Arizona!
2. It is illegal to audit a part election, if the result will not overturn the election. This audit is being done to assess the need for stricter voting laws. Which is a big money waster.
3. That is my whole point! Maybe Biden won fair and square. In that case, keep a close eye on what he is really doing as President. And if he pulled off a sham election when he was not even in Washington, then what chance is there for 24? And public trust is gone. This is the new way to win office. Care to join?May 9, 2021 3:28 pm at 3:28 pm #1972203
An example of what you are saying when the shoe is on the other foot.
Due to the new laws enacted by the republicans, democrats do not trust the process in the 43 states that the republican proposed at least 250 new election laws..
Therefore, if democrats lose – especially in republican states – like Florida and Georgia, the states must be ready to satisfy every accusation of stealing the elections.
The states should be ready for countless lawsuits and endless recounts.
A tiny unknown firm called ‘cyber sushi’ with no experience in auditing elections ,run by a democrat , will be hired to audit the process even after multiple recounts.
Democrats will hire crazy lawyers (who will be losing their law licenses and going to jail) go on national TV every day repeating claims that they heard. They are the Democrats “Strike Force” and they will be ready the night of the elections to announce that they are not conceding and the election was stolen.
The states should be ready for every crazy theory – from ballots shipped in from the far east to dead people voting.
No politician will be considered duly elected or legitimate until all the lawsuits have been resolved!!!!
This will be the new normal.
We might even gather outside the state capitols.
Just like you have been accommodated, we will demand to be accommodated.
America is anxiously awaiting.May 9, 2021 5:10 pm at 5:10 pm #1972257
Oh Jackk -“America is anxiously awaiting.”
Your whole post is nothing but a Threat!
We people in the US are Not going to stand by when others are turning this Country into a Banana State!
This doesn’t just mean Republicans, but there are many Democrats that believe in Democracy.
There are a lot of real Patriots in this Country, that don’t realize that the 2020 Election was Stolen!
Hopefully this Audit will awaken them.May 9, 2021 7:35 pm at 7:35 pm #1972290
We most definitely will stand by and do nothing. Watching real life on television without experiencing it, is the most quintessential American activity.May 10, 2021 12:32 am at 12:32 am #1972345May 10, 2021 12:33 am at 12:33 am #1972350
Jackk your post is vague and lacks any legitimate talking point. When the shoe is on the other foot, we can discuss and debate at that time. All I’ve been trying to say is that it’s awfully strange the way democrats are trying to derail the audit. Legal or not, warranted or not, if the democrats knew they won 100% fairly, I don’t think they would pass up an opportunity to see republicans look like fools.
N0mesorah I don’t know what your trying to say, if all you have to answer is that democrats there are “budget conscious”, then that is where we disagree, and there is no point debating further…May 10, 2021 8:50 am at 8:50 am #1972389
Yesr -“If literally every single news organization except two fringe ones are too “liberal” and “fake” for you,”
Golly gee – A few posts you listed 4.
“Russia Today, NewsMax, OAN, and DonaldJTrump.com”
Now it’s only 2 – which one is it?
Or you just lie to fit your Agenda/Post?!?
“maybe the issue isn’t the media but what you are choosing to believe”
Stop believing the Fake Media & trying to push it on e/o!?!May 10, 2021 9:20 am at 9:20 am #1972451
I take it you live in a blue state. That has been heavily blue for decades. And the Republican politicians that you are familiar with, are part of the moral majority etc. Other regions in the country are very different. Hello? We are discussing Arizona!May 10, 2021 12:52 pm at 12:52 pm #1972515
The legitimate talking point is that your point ,” Going forward, for future elections, it’s crucial that everyone trusts the process….” is invalid.
You think it sounds logical and ethical but it is not.
I have given you an example.
You have not responded because there is no response. You want things your way as long as you win.May 10, 2021 12:53 pm at 12:53 pm #1972537
The legislative battle in Arizona is over voting rights. If the Republican party actually splits, Arizona is a likely ground zero.May 10, 2021 2:39 pm at 2:39 pm #1972588
Jackk “You think it sounds logical and ethical but it is not.”-Your explanation of why my point is invalid is the example you gave? I don’t see the connection. Your saying there shouldn’t be an audit to address the concern of millions-because maybe one day the shoe will be on the other foot? I’ve said this before, if the show was on the other foot, and I was confident the election was legit, not only would I not oppose an audit, I’d welcome it. If the democrats hadnt pushed back so hard, the audit could have been done long before Biden was sworn in. Sorry, but I have no idea what your trying to say.
N0mesorah, your right, i’m not familiar with the specific democrats in Arizona, but I don’t think I need to to make my point.May 10, 2021 3:08 pm at 3:08 pm #1972604
Being budget conscious is a big deal in Arizona. Goldwater until McCain. It was never a conservative values state. And Trump really piled on McCain for no reason. He is like the Abraham Lincoln of Arizona. That Arizona is even mildly purple is absolutely shocking.
The main fight is over who can vote in the next election. The Upton faction of Arizona is probably not even half of the republicans. The Latinos just started voting in large numbers, and they are voting Democrat. That is the struggle over restricting voter rights.
Now a question for you. If Trump is so convinced that he won, why will he not pay for any optional recounts or audits?May 10, 2021 4:37 pm at 4:37 pm #1972640
It is quite simple.
I am saying that there shouldn’t be an audit to address the unfounded concerns of millions.
There definitely should not be a corrupt audit run by the GOP to address the unfounded concerns of millions.
The shoe is already on the other foot. The democrats are concerned that elections in republican run states that changed there laws after 2020 are disenfranchising millions of Americans and the results are invalid.
Just because YOU and MILLIONS “HAVE CONCERNS” that the election was not legit does not allow YOU or the MILLIONS to hire a inexperienced , unknown republican run cyber ninja firm to do an audit.
THE RECOUNTS WERE DONE. THE LAWSUITS WERE DONE.
The truth is you have been lied to incessantly by Trump, the GOP , and the Media.May 10, 2021 4:37 pm at 4:37 pm #1972641
Sen. Paul Boyer, a Republican who represents a suburb of Phoenix, told the publication that he initially supported and voted for the audit but that he regretted doing so after seeing how poorly it was being conducted.
“It makes us look like idiots,” Boyer said. “Looking back, I didn’t think it would be this ridiculous. It’s embarrassing to be a state senator at this point.”May 10, 2021 7:07 pm at 7:07 pm #1972696
These are not unfounded concerns. The leading republicans are just not sharing what their real concerns are. The fact is they were very spooked by what they saw in this part election. Even though they outperformed the polls in almost every race. McConnell and etc gave support to the recount idea, even though they are better of with Trump not in the white house. Yet, they did not allege that fraud occurred. The fight is about the future. Nobody is fighting over the past elections anymore. Guliani is fighting to stay out of prison. Trump is fighting to stay out of court. Fox news is fighting for eyeballs. Newsmax is fighting for the souls of evangelicals. And Lin Wood is fighting for the President he thinks is still in office.May 10, 2021 7:08 pm at 7:08 pm #1972697
@Health You only mentioned and quoted from two sources so that’s what I stuck with. Apparently, you consider sources such as Fox News, Jerusalem Post, and DailyWire too liberal and therefore completely untrustworthy. So I suggest you take a second look at your own opinions.May 10, 2021 7:26 pm at 7:26 pm #1972728
Jackk if you want to to discuss how the voting laws in gop states are “disenfranchising” voters, we absolutely most definitely can. You may as well start a new thread for that. As for “unfounded” concerns, allegations aside, a ridiculously high >80% voter turnout should be more than enough to warrant an audit. If you want to point out specific concerns with how the audit is being conducted, you can, because it is being done in a very transparent way, every step of the process being explained, and every step of the process being recorded. As for previous audits, all we’ve gotten is “an audit was conducted”, and we’re supposed to sit down and accept that. You don’t need to be any sort of “election expert” to run a ballot under a scanner, or to count them. But somehow, them having “no experience with election recounts” became a star talking point for you guys.May 11, 2021 7:32 pm at 7:32 pm #1973220
Have they found any bamboo in the ballots? Has forensics turned up any traces of soy sauce? If anyone finds a hummus stain, we’ll know sabra infiltrated the arizona department of state.
What are the results of the great hunt for nonexistent watermarks on ballots that voted for Biden? A scheme so duplicitous, they somehow also removed the watermarks from the trump ballots so they could fit in.
I have to admit, I am having some doubts about the Texas, Florida and North Carolina presidential election results. I hope the republican legislatures in those states also conduct full audits to satisfy my personal sense of certitude that Biden won those states.
I know two people who committed election fraud in 2020. One lives in a blue state and voted in a swing state they left years ago. The other was not registered to vote, but attempted to vote to prove how easy it is to vote if you don’t have to show ID. Person A voted, Person B was unsuccessful. Both bigly into trump. Based on my personal knowledge, about 100% of election fraud was committed by trump supporters with a 50% success rate. I can sign an afterdavit to that effect. A noderized afterdavit. That is written proof that translates to millions, maybe tens of millions of votes that should have gone to Biden.
I think the Southern Poverty Law Center should be entrusted with the audit. Why not, an audit is not rocket science, expertise is elitist nonsense, they’re super transparent as far as saying stuff I like to hear, so why would in world would Texas, Florida and North Carolina object unless they were hiding something. Makes you wonder.May 11, 2021 11:45 pm at 11:45 pm #1973294
Se2015, one person is different than millions, I don’t have to explain that. But yes, if millions of democrats demanded an audit in those states, I’d welcome it.
N0mesorah, even if you’re 100% correct with Dems in AZ being concerned about budget…-that doesn’t explain why A)once the audit is already underway, they are STILL trying to derail it. And B) why democrats in other states, specifically currently Michigan, they are desperately trying to prevent an audit.May 12, 2021 1:22 am at 1:22 am #1973324
“But yes, if millions of democrats demanded an audit in those states, I’d welcome it.”
Sure you would. That fact that democrats don’t, and didn’t in 2016, is because for all their shortcomings, they don’t spin conspiracy theories that undermine the electoral process and then demand an “audit” to “restore” faith in the democratic process all the while further eroding faith in democracy. (And don’t say Russia hoax. every investigation confirmed Russian interference; the question that remained was whether the interference was solicited or merely welcomed). Truth is, the only ones getting hurt by this is the Republican Party. Democrats could care less about the results of the audit itself which is meaningless as far as 2020 goes, but are rather concerned that its supposed findings will be used as a pretext to limit voting rights. The inevitable “shocking” results of the audit and the airtime in the trump echo chamber will cause Republicans to lose faith in voting. It’s what happened in the Georgia runoff. If you keep lying that elections are rigged, your team will start believing you.May 13, 2021 3:59 pm at 3:59 pm #1974268
Hmm…data erased days before being handed over, passwords are “missing”…May 13, 2021 8:23 pm at 8:23 pm #1974346
TVOP -“Hmm…data erased days before being handed over, passwords are “missing”.”
You’re falling into the Trap laid by the ones who committed Insurection against Trump.
The whole thing that Trump lost is an Invention by the Far Leftists!
They made 2 impeachments against him based on their TDS Insanity!
They couldn’t let him win the 2020 election by hook or by crook.
The fact was Hillary had 3mil more than Trump, but Trump won the Electoral College.
If you look at the Stats – Trump was more popular in 2020, than 2016.
In 2016 – he won Pa., Mi, Wisconsin, Az, & Ga.
What changed, if not for changing some rules & a lot of Fraud?!?
They planned this Fraud for Two years.
The Republican legislators know that they shouldn’t have ever certified the Election for Biden!
But now they are ashamed with what they did & trying to save Face with their Constituents.
The same thing with those other States that Trump won in 2016.May 14, 2021 1:41 pm at 1:41 pm #1974494☕️coffee addictParticipant
“@Health and @coffee-addict If literally every single news organization except two fringe ones are too “liberal” and “fake” for you, maybe the issue isn’t the media but what you are choosing to believe“
Sorry for not checking in sooner
That’s like saying “if you only believe two “fringe scientists” that there’s no evolution there’s something wrong with you
Businesses work by following the Benjamins if the news organizations are paid not to report a certain way they won’t (that’s including Fox News who had cancelled shows for as much reason as msnbc not cancelling for the same reason)May 14, 2021 1:42 pm at 1:42 pm #1974512
@Health Extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence. And your claims are pretty extraordinary. And your evidence is pretty… let’s say… less than extraordinary.May 14, 2021 5:59 pm at 5:59 pm #1974549
Yesr – First of all, how many SN’S do you have?
Are you Ubiq also?
“Extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence. And your claims are pretty extraordinary. And your evidence is pretty… let’s say… less than extraordinary”
For get about extraordinary – what about plain old evidence?!?
There were plenty of Lawsuits in Federal & State courts, some had good answers why they didn’t go for the ones for Trump’s side. No jurisdiction to bring Suit, etc.
Others should have been accepted & they had Affidavits. So why were they not heard?
Also the SCOTUS let their Election cases run out of Time.
You Lib Leftists keep saying that there is no evidence.
There was plenty, but the Courts refused to deal with it.
This is what you see in Banana States, not what the US was Just a Few years ago!May 16, 2021 12:20 am at 12:20 am #1974679
@Health I have one screen name on this site, I think? Maybe I accidentally created another? I dunno.
Anyhoo, none of what you said is evidence. The lawsuits, as I mentioned, all just said vague statements that there may have been tampering, but no one can confirm. Not one shred of evidence strong enough to even be admissible to court has been proven.
@coffee-addict I believe those two fringe anti-evolution scientists not because they are the smartest or have the greatest reasoning, but because I have emunah in Hashem and His Torah. Are you saying that you believe NewsMax only because you have emunah in Trump?May 16, 2021 8:29 am at 8:29 am #1974698
Yesr -“Anyhoo, none of what you said is evidence. Not one shred of evidence strong enough to even be admissible to court has been proven.”
IDK what you are talking about.
This is calling evidence:
“A Detroit city worker who was assigned to the election has sworn in an affidavit that she and others were ordered to change mailing dates on ballots and observed supervisors “coaching” voters to cast ballots for Democrat Joe Biden.”
The Judge was too Scared to do his job!
Obviously you not familiar with the Rules of Evidence, but that doesn’t excuse your Lying!May 16, 2021 11:53 am at 11:53 am #1974823
@Health You’re just posting the same Jessy Jacob article that we’ve already discussed. Turns out, not only could she not identify a single specific example of voter intimidation, but she was also clueless about how the balloting system even worked and a lot of her claims were her not understanding what was happening.
That’s why I don’t trust the NewsMax version of this story. Their only mentions of Ms. Jacob was her initial accusations from December 2020. They never posted any followups, like her ignorance, or how she couldn’t state any specifics. They’re currently trying to bury the story by pretending that it never happened. Fortunately, a quick Google search brings up dozens of articles about her.May 16, 2021 2:34 pm at 2:34 pm #1974875
Yesr -“You’re just posting the same Jessy Jacob article that we’ve already discussed. Etc.”
And I answered that already. She was a Temp., so she didn’t know their names.
If the Judge had a Drop of Honesty, he would have ordered an Investigation to the Proper Authorities, (Justice Dept, FBI, etc.)
You don’t just dismiss the Case.
There was a serious Possible Federal Crime here!
But the Justice Dept in NY is busy looking for Crimes against Trump and his Lawyer.
They raided Guiliani apt & office, taking media devices.
There is No Smoking Gun that he or Trump committed any crime.
Sorry – TDS is Not a Crime.
But what Jacob’s claims is a Federal Crime.
Why aren’t they looking into it?!?
This is what happens in Banana Republics!May 19, 2021 12:39 pm at 12:39 pm #1975246
@Health The specific thing you mentioned about changing ballot dates was her not understanding how the system works and ignorance of what she was being asked to do. So again, extraordinary claims, extraordinary evidence. A claim that can’t even be admissible to court isn’t even ordinary evidence, it’s literally nothing.
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