The Peaceful Dismantlement of the State of “Israel”

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    aheimisherenglisher
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    @SQUARE_ROOT before Israel was made there were shuls, yeshivos ect.

    #2402583
    ujm
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    aheimisherenglisher: That’s true. And even after the Zionists violently seized control of the Holy Land, all the Torah, Yeshivas, Chesed, etc that came about, came despite the best efforts of the Zionists to stop it and impede it; certainly not because of them.

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    yankel berel
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    @somejew

    in every q of halacha, you must first establish what the metsiut is, afterwards research the halacha applicable to the established metsiut.

    If you see the metsiut only as black and white , you miss out .

    On all the shades of grey , which are a part of the metsiut.

    Which invalidates any psak halacha you arrive at.

    Then you sound like a chicken without a head , like katan for example.

    Simple.


    We are talking here about pikuach nefesh of millions of innocents , which inexplicably does not feature at all in your deliberations, which i find unforgivable.
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    #2402600
    yankel berel
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    @aheimisherenglisher

    before Israel was made there were shuls, yeshivos ect.


    is that a heter to destroy the ones built since ?
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    #2402815
    somejewiknow
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    @yankel-berel
    there is clearly no pikiach nefesh when it comes to breaking the shulosh shevias. see maharal and ramban and others. this is sort of the whole POINT of the shevios.

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    SQUARE_ROOT
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    According to Halachah, it is prohibited for a Jew to leave Eretz Yisrael,
    and there are only a few valid heterim, such as parnassah or marriage.

    If the State of Israel were “peacefully” dismantled, that would
    cause millions of Jews to leave Eretz Yisrael, which is a sin.

    David HaMelech compared leaving Eretz Yisrael to worshiping idols.

    Therefore, “peacefully” dismantling the State of Israel
    would cause 8 million Jews to SIN by leaving Eretz Yisrael,
    which is a SIN that is comparable to worshiping idols.

    If I remember correctly, Rashi’s commentary on Sefer Yechezkel
    teaches that Jews living outside of Eretz Yisrael is a Chillul HaShem.

    Therefore, “peacefully” dismantling the State of Israel

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