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  • #2106712
    Moish26
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    The moderators will probably not let this through but I want to be morer a point I feel strongly and that is that anyone that sees Yeshiva world news website for a week Can tell this is no Jewish website yes they keep it clean but it’s not positive news it’s mostly not even Jewish news and even the Jewish news is dramatized and played around with to make it look enticing to click on and for a real Yeshiva website non Jewish news especially ones that aren’t important shouldn’t be posted but it is most of the news is about world and politics and other garbage and is also put out in a way to lure u in and get u fired up at it/about it and when it comes to a lot of the news it’s either garbage or even if it’s Jewish news there’s usually uncalled for drama or even lashon hara and even if it wouldn’t be lashon hara by using loopholes to save u (and themselves)from the issur it’s still not haskhaficlly ok to probably most yidden to watch/read constantly things that are technically lashon hara just some loophole in halcha would classify it as not ussor (if the loopholes they use on ywn are even Halachiclly valid) and all the posts can make a lot of sinas Chinam also on ceirtan Jews on the way ywn portrays the news so in conclusion i feel that ywn definitely does not deserve the title yeshivish/Yeshiva world news and might even be misleading by being classified as Jewish in sense of their content and chaval for the yid that runs this platform to lose money but I think this website takes away people from Hashem instead of bring them closer it bring them farther from Him and therefore people should leave this website pls forgive for any typos. (If this even gets posted in the end) the moderates will probably not let this go through

    #2106783
    ☕️coffee addict
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    If you don’t like the news go somewhere else orstart your own website

    Maybe call it Real Yeshiva News

    We are in a democracy you know

    #2106790
    besalel
    Participant

    Moish26, I don’t disagree with your sentiment, but your syntax plays very well into the hands of YAFED.

    #2106791
    Chaylev Halyah
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    REAL yeshiva ppl, are NOT on the internet!
    GET OFF!

    #2106805
    yaakov doe
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    Moish, you raise some valid points but your long diatribe is difficult to read because you don’t know about paragraphs.

    #2106801
    ujm
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    OP/Moish26: You are absolutely correct.

    CA: Judaism isn’t a democracy.

    Of course, there’s worse out there. Another major “frum” competitor to this site is far far worse.

    Even Mishpacha and AMI would not be found in a Torah true home, given the horrible hashkafos they transmit. Even the “old” weeklies of Yated and Hamodia are problematic.

    #2106832
    Reb Eliezer
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    We do the best we can as the alternative is worst and there is a need for it. I sprinkle it with words of Torah.

    #2106850
    Menachem Shmei
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    No frum Yid NEEDS to know the news at all. None of the news is really vital for survival. This platform is made for Yidden like us who have a hard time overcoming our temptation to see the news.

    Unfortunately, if they would only have very Jewish and frum stuff, many of us would still be tempted to look at the non-Jewish news platforms to know what’s happening in the world. Therefore, they have worldly news as well (albeit in a kosher fashion) to help us overcome this temptation.

    A person on the caliber of OP should definitly not be using this news site, and probably shouldn’t be using the internet at all. It will not harm you whatsoever to stay in Yeshiva/Kolel/Shul and spend your time learning Torah without checking out the news – frum or worldly.

    A big shoutout and thank you to REB ELIEZER שליט”א for all your help and dedication to making the CR a holier and more Torah’dike place for all of us!

    #2106853
    Balabus
    Participant

    I agree with most of what you said reb Moish
    And what I would say to you is that,
    The internet is filled with alot of garbage.
    That’s why there are organizations that are specifically
    Trying to keep people away from it.

    My suggestion to you is to stay off the Wold wide web.

    There is so much garbage out there.
    Hatzlacha

    #2106857
    Reb Eliezer
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    It says לעושה גדולות נפלאות לבדו כי לעולם חסדו, Hashem does great wonders on His own, which is His eternal favor. Why on His own? I heard pshat with a mashel, where someone dug a hole at night outside on the street which obviously is dangerous being a bor bereshus harabim. The workers came at night and fixed it. When one woke up, did not know about the danger. Similarly, sometimes we don’t even know the miracles Hashem does to us. The YWN publicizes it to be able to thank Hashem Yisbarach. This might be the purpose of YWN.

    #2106895
    Moish26
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    To all those saying I should stay off the internet chasdei HASHEM my phone is filtered and all those who don’t have filters should definitely consider getting one still I am working to try to convince myself to get a flip phone alts not wasting time but BH I don’t have bad things on this phone so I’m not sure what the problem is with filtered internet and even though someone can log on to places like these with filtered internet it’s still a choice wether to come here or not to all those saying that my point is correct just the Yetzer hara convinces them to come here i say: “duh” that’s totally the Metzius and I agree to some degree it’s obviously better than a non Jewish website to some degree to someone saying that Judaism is a democracy that’s comeplete garbage really the point of my thread is to make people that are in denial about this website like those saying Judaism is a democracy etc. realize the truth and those who know the truth consciously, to be morer their concise. to All those saying I’m not a good writer and I should learn how to write a paragraph or whatever I don’t care and I don’t plan on being a writer and frankly am not insulted as it’s not my tafkid to be a writer and to Reb Eliezer if someone says Torah on YouTube it’s basically similar to saying Torah on this website it’s not really changing that much and doesn’t make it right as to ur point that ywn publicizes that we can thank HKBH that would be true if they would say positive news or at least News WITH SOME KIND OF POSITIVE TWIST but NO they don’t and this new site definitely doesn’t make someone thank Hashem again to all those personally attacking me about what I’m doing on the internet and my writing skills this is not about me personally per say it’s about the Metzius of this fact that I started the thread with and helping people underStand/warm up to the truth by realizing that it’s been in front of their nose the whole time

    I’m sorry for making all u dizzy reading this Shkoach

    #2106902
    Reb Eliezer
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    balabous, we did very well before you were on the World Wide Web.

    #2106910
    Menachem Shmei
    Participant

    @Moish26:
    To quote you: “if ur so shtark in bmg and bmg is great what are u doing on yeshiva world news??!!”
    כל הפוסל במומו פוסל

    #2106919
    Reb Eliezer
    Participant

    Menachem, thank you for your nice words. According to the Binah Leitim, who translates איזהו גבור השמח בחלקו, who is a real hero who enjoys his lot, by sharing his wealth and knowledge as our purpose in life to share. it says אם למדת תורה הרבה, if you learned much Torah אל תחזיק טובה לעצמך don’t feel good about it כי לכך נוצרך as you well created for the purpose to pass it on to others. Maybe this is the meaning in what it says הלומד תורה שלא לשמה one who learns Torah for his own purpose מוטב לו שלא נברא it would have been better not being created as he is not fulfilling the purpose of his creation.

    #2106925
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    CA, if you don’t like what moish26 wrote, start your own thread. Or site.

    #2106929
    Reb Eliezer
    Participant

    Moish26, criticizing is easy. I happen to want to know about gedolim passing on which might wake us up to do teshuva. They are quoting verbatim the AP news which a person here can decide to read or not to read.

    #2106944
    ☕️coffee addict
    Participant

    To ujm,

    Who was talking about yiddishkeit, he’s complaining about a website, so don’t use it

    Participant,

    I’m perfectly fine with what moish wrote , I’m just suggesting that he can go somewhere else if he doesn’t like the website, no one is forcing him to visit the site

    #2106964
    besalel
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    moish26: even if your tafkid was not to be a writer, there is value in being able to express yourself in the written word. not everyone is a Shakespeare or need be one, but everyone should be able to deliver his thoughts in writing. the fact that you do not value literacy is an indictment of the education you received (not something you should personally take as an insult).

    #2106965
    Moish26
    Participant

    @menachem shmei I don’t go to bmg and the reason i said that comment was my way of expressing what I said in this thread but instead of expressing it in a healthy good way like in this thread I expressed it in those words becuase I felt upset that it’s being normalized to be on ywn to a point that a g Bochur is on it so I don’t think col haposel applied there because like explained above I was expressing my upsetness at the normalazition of ywn @ca it’s not about me it’s about the klal and what I feel about ywn and how they are perceived by the klal and are effecting the klal @reb elizer I don’t understand both of ur comments but if I interpreted it correctly Ur saying what does a shnuchitz like me have being morer the klal and I agree with u it’s just that I feel very strongly that people seem to be not understanding my above points either by being In denial or by going on like they don’t exist and I feel like I have to say this

    #2106968
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    ok that makes sense

    #2106971
    ujm
    Participant

    CA: By us Yidden, every aspect of life and daily activity must be viewed through the prism of Torah Judaism. Even a discussion of tying our shoelaces or taking a shower or what/when we speak must be viewed through how we are obligated to do so according to the Torah.

    #2107022
    DovidBT
    Participant

    moish26: Why do you hate punctuation?

    #2107025
    ☕️coffee addict
    Participant

    “CA: By us Yidden, every aspect of life and daily activity must be viewed through the prism of Torah Judaism. Even a discussion of tying our shoelaces or taking a shower or what/when we speak must be viewed through how we are obligated to do so according to the Torah.“

    Joe,

    You’re reading too much into this, if that’s what he’s trying to do then he should ask a shaylah to his Rav not to the CR even if it has such esteemed members as Reb eliezer

    #2107051
    Menachem Shmei
    Participant

    moish26: I hear your explanation, I apologize if I quoted you out of context.

    I can’t understand why you insist on writing in a way that is so hard to understand. I am not advocating for learning grammar and limudei chol (after all, I went to a Lubavitcher cheder so I never studied English formally), yet the simple rules of punctuation and paragraphs can be learned from seforim as well.

    I’ll give you a very short & general shiur:

    When you finish a point and move on to the next point (sentence) place a period (dot). That makes it clear to the readers that they must pause before moving on.

    When you move on to write something which is ממש a separate ענין, make a new paragraph (like a new סעיף). This can be done by pressing Enter (right side of the keyboard).

    Examples:
    After “I don’t go to bmg” put a period.
    After addressing each individual poster, you can put a period and new paragraph (בסגנון אחר: Before addressing “@ca” and “@Reb Eliezer” – press the enter key).

    It does not take much effort to follow these simple rules, and it will make it a lot easier for those whom you are trying to influence to understand your intent.

    I hope this was of help. הצלחה רבה

    #2107067
    shnayzin123
    Participant

    That has got to have been the longest sentence ever.

    But some validity…

    #2107081
    Naftush-2
    Participant

    Maybe he’s showing his frum credentials by punctuating Gemara-style….

    #2107178
    Reb Eliezer
    Participant

    A period at an end of sentence is breather. In the gemora we can brake it down to phrases by recognizing expressions through the idioms of the gemora.

    #2107181
    akuperma
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    It really should be “Frum world news” but “frum” has multiple meanings and is not understandable to anyone outside the “frum” community. As the “yeshiva” is probably the defining institution of all frum Jews, the name is fine.

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