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@CTL how can you say with certainty Biden wins in Nov 24? 538 has Trump and Biden at a tie right now. Nat silver isn�t exactly a conservative. I am not saying Trump will win nor do I want him to win but we simply don�t know. He may win.
Rabbi A Miller Z”L use to say stay married and continue (Of course not fighting but continue together he would quip.) He had very harsh words to say about divorce just because you can’t get along. Now I don’t know what he would say about mental illness or CVS any top of abuse. And nothing is a cardinal rule. From the tone of your question though, it sounds like it isn’t extreme to the point of abuse. Rabbi A Miller ZL is the torah way.
By the way most of our holocaust grandparents were not that compatible and many fought. But they knew you need to tough it out and hold it together.
@shimon I still don�t see why Orlando is vidas zenus. It�s kosher family fun like anything else. If you mean because it�s a hang out, then ein ldavar sof. Many Cholom hamoed trips are that too . Many simchas or kiddishim have hang outs. There are bigger averous.
@shimon, who says Orlando is a place of zenus? There are houses with private pools and amusement parks just like six flags here in the greater Nyc. It isn�t even a beach town.
AviraDeArah,
I have news for you. European jewery was the same way. My hungarain grandmother had shortsleeves and went to Public school too. My grandfather went to work at like 14 and barely knew how to read gemara. yet they were super erhlich despite being “MO” although they davened in an oberlender shul.Furthermore, 75 years ago there were plenty of yeshivas in the NYC area. And yes plenty chashuvim went to yitzchok elchanon.
I don’t know about Josephus, I mean we do know that the jews didn’t listen to chazal much during Josephus time nebach either. (look at the baryanim and all the others, then corrupt Kohen gadol etc.) But thats history. pre war Europe and the USA nobody aside for chasidim really had a thing to ask “das torah” every move. This is a new thing.
PS I don’t suggest that all this change is bad. its beautiful to be better jews. But don’t make it sound like MO is some kind of reform movement. They aren’t open orthdoxy CVS.
75 years ago in the USA, almost every orthodox jew was really MO. Women didn’t cover their hair unless in shul, they wore short sleeves everybody hate cholov stam, nobody learned in kolel, everybody went to college and work, all had secular names, mixed seating by simchas (aguda convention use to have mixed seating) no shtreimels or beards etc. The world moved more to the right as the years passed. The MO believes if it was frum enough for 75 years ago its Ok now too.
Side note, the idea that a rav is someone who i ask anything more than halchaha aka das torah is also a new phenomenon that started roughly with R chaim ozer Z’l. The idea of das torah in litfisha circles is new. It used to be that you just worried about halchaha. (The chasam sofer and hungarain jewry had more since it was kehila based.)
To the naysayers who say the two can�t mix; I see that in desperate situations this works just fine. I know older singles , divorced and sick singles who once they knew they couldn�t be choseey the all went for litvush and chasdiish and figured out their differences. If we wanted we can get it done. It�s a matter of mindset