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    Folks, Dihydrogen Monoxide , is just another name for Water.

    Brains of Non-Autistic Children and Non-Alzheimers Elderly DON”T have high level
    of aluminum – which probably came from VACCINES that are pushed on everyone
    but ESPECIALLY Pregnant women, Babies and little children and ELDERLY (Flu Vaccines)

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    Provaxxers – you did not comment that high level of aluminum were found
    in the brains of Autistic Children.
    High level of Aluminum also found in the brains of Alzheimer people.

    We also have another NEW disease “early-onset” Alzheimers.
    And the increase in Alzheimers and the invention of “early-onset” Alzheimers
    just happens to occur at the same time FLU Shots containing both Aluminum and Mercury
    are being PUSHED on everyone. But it’s just a “coincidence”

    Just like the Autism Epidemic following Quadrupling Vaccines is a “coincidence”

    Just like Autism developing after Vaccination is a “coincidence”

    Just like 90% of SIDS occurring within hours-days of vaccination is a “coincidence”

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    Mrs. Plony: If the Pro contingent is still Pro and the Anti contingent is still Anti after all this, then is anybody’s argument that compelling?

    If people would realize that the Pro Vaccine argument is “not that compelling”
    Then there is hope to save humanity!

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    And Pharmaceutical company is making BILLIONS off Ritalin and Adderall for ADHD.

    The Pharmaceutical makes Billions on Vaccines – and Trillions on all the Meds it sells
    to CHRONICALLY SICK CHILDREN!

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    ADHD is probably a mild form of autism – main cause is vaccines.
    ADHD was also extremely rare – until 1990 when CDC quadrupled the vaccines!

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    Health: Anyways the Vaxxing sites, like Science Based Medicine, write there is really Not an increase in Autism from 1990-2010. Look it up – to find out why!

    Health, your ProVax Sites are lying to you – trying to hide the Truth of the Vaccine Autism Epidemic
    from you.
    Science Based Medicine is talking about WORLD WIDE Autism Rate – and since every country has
    a different definition of Autism, and some countries don’t track it well – the study is Invalid.

    Here is the Autism Rate Per the HOLY CDC – VACCINE PUSHER:
    1970: 1:10,000
    1995 1:1,000 – notice the HUGE Increase after CDC began increasing vaccine Schedule
    1999: 1: 500
    2000: 1:150
    2006: 1:110
    2008 1:88
    2014: 1:68
    2018: 1:59

    This 600% Increase CANNOT be genetic. It MUST be environmental!

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    Ubiquitin: You should also thank the inventors and developers of vaccines Like The Tiferes Yisroel did see 2 lines from the bottom of Boaz http://hebrewbooks.org/pdfpager.aspx?req=37946&st=&pgnum=347
    where he refers to Jenner as a β€œchasid” who saved thousands of lives and will certainly be repaid in Olam Habbah .

    I do THANK Jenner.
    Vaccines saved lives. Medicine saved lives.
    But Medicine can also Kill and Injure.
    So can Vaccines – if you give TOO MANY, TOO SOON – which is what happened when the
    CDC QUADRUPLED the number of Vaccines given, vaccinate PREGNANT Women and Newborns –
    Then Vaccines INJURE and KILL.

    Lets return back to the SAFE Vaccine Schedule of FOUR Vaccines instead of 70+
    Children were not dying in the 1960s and 1970s. And Autism was 1:10,000.
    And there was hardly any ADHD, Learning Disabilities, SIDS, Child Diabetes, Child Cancer, Epilepsy…

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    Ubiquitin: do y u think EVERY intellectually disabled person fits neatly into Trisomy 21, Fragile X, Prader willi etc?

    If there are normal facial features, it is probably NOT genetic retardation. There are other causes of retardation besides genetic including: prenatal exposure to alcohol, drugs or other toxins,birth trauma (oxygen deprivation) lead poisoning, mercury poisoning, malnutrition, encephalopathy, brain injury, etc.

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    Health: In high school they teach the 3 laws of Mendel. (That’s Not Mendel the Mouse.)
    So things can change from generation to another

    Health, here is the list of all the PROVEN GENETIC Retardation:
    Down Syndrome, Fragile X, Rett Syndrome, Williams Syndrome, Angelman Syndrome, Prader Willi Syndrome, Patau Syndrome, Edwards Syndrome, Cohen Syndrome

    The Rate for Genetic Retardation is 1:10,000 except for Down Syndrome which is 1:1,000
    AND THIS RATE HAS NOT CHANGED!

    But Autism which is NOT proven to be Genetic (there is no blood test) has gone from
    1:10,000 to 1:50!
    Which is EVIDENCE that Autism is NOT Genetic!

    And this is not MY opinion but the opinion of real PhD SCIENTISTS!

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    Can you find out anywhere on the internet the autism rate of 100% unvaxxed children?

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    Health: Actually about 70% of Amish do Vaxx!
    From Vaxopedia:
    β€œThe idea that the Amish do not vaccinate their children is untrue,” says Dr. Kevin Strauss, MD, a pediatrician at the CSC.

    Health, your ProVax Propaganda site is LYING. Even CDC acknowledges that Amish have a
    LOW vaccination rate. The CDC made a study about it Amish and Low Vaccine Rate in 2017:
    Evaluation of low immunization coverage among the Amish population in rural Ohio.

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    Doomsday: β€œYou cannot provide ONE example of people accusing a product of harm & manufacturers deny where the manufacturers were right. NOT ONCE IN HISTORY!”

    Ubiquitin: What?
    My neighbor accuses his microwave of reading his thoughts

    Folks, see what a LIAR Ubiquitin is?
    Ubiquitin CHANGED my statement where I said there is not one example of LARGE GROUPS
    of people accusing a product of harm, the manufacturer lies and denies – and the people were right!

    But Ubiquitin TOOK OUT the words “LARGE GROUPS” in order to perpetuate a Lie!
    Shame on you, Ubiquitin! I guess when you are DESPERATE you have to resort to Lies!

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    RebYid – the reason I bring up NON-VERBAL Autism because in 1970 NON-VERBAL Autism
    was 1:10,000 and today it is 1:150.

    They keep CHANGING the definition of Autism – DELIBERATELY to keep everyone confused about what
    the real rate of autism is.

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    Ubiquitin, Klinefelters is not mentally retarded: Excerpt from Wikipedia:

    Intelligence is usually normal; however, reading difficulties and problems with speech are more common.

    So there is NO Genetic Retardation without abnormal facial features.
    Also, there are some common physical traits – Autism doesn’t have this.
    There is a genetic test – Autism doesn’t have this.

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    β€œAlso, what is the Autism Rate of children who are 100% Unvaccinated?”
    Ubiquitin: More than likely equal to the general population

    Got any data to back that up?

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    Ubiquitin: what an amazing time to live in that we appreciate a part of Hashem’s prmise of β€œKol Hamachla Asher samti Bimitzraim Lo Asim Alecha”

    What a TRAGIC Time to live in – SICKEST CHILDREN IN HISTORY – Government COERCION of Vaccines:
    1:6 children are Learning Disabled
    1:6 children are Allergic (can be Fatal!)
    1:7 couples are INFERTILE (Vaccine inserts say they don’t safety test for infertility)
    1:13 children have Asthma
    1:15 children have ADHD
    1:5 teens had episode of Mental illness
    1:8 children have IBS
    1:50 children have Autism (listed as Adverse Event on Vaccine Inserts)
    1:100 children have Epilepsy (seizures listed as Adverse Event on Vaccine Inserts)
    1:250 children have Tourettes Syndrome
    1:400 children have Diabetes
    1:775 babies DIE of SIDS (listed as Adverse Event on Vaccine Inserts)
    1:1,000 children have Celiac Disease
    1:5,560 children have CANCER (Vaccine Inserts say don’t safety test for Cancer)
    168 Deaths following vaccines reported to VAERS every year.
    ZERO deaths from Measles (in USA).

    Some studies claim that nearly HALF of US Children have a chronic illness!
    THANK YOU, VACCINES! Such a “brochah” NOT!!!

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    Doomsday:β€œPercentage of young U.S. children who don’t receive any vaccines has quadrupled since 2001.”

    Ubiquiton: and has the autism rate changed?

    No, because only 1.3% of children are unvaccinated so they don’t effect the autism rate.

    But children are vaccinated with ALL these vaccines BY FORCE!
    If parents would be FREE to CHOOSE they would do much fewer vaccines and at older ages.
    That’s why Government – which takes MILLIONS $$$ from Pharmaceutical Co must use COERCION!

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    Meno, you cannot deny that in the SIX examples I gave of large groups of people accusing a product of causing harm, Manufacturers Deny, in the end the PEOPLE were right is TRUE!

    You cannot provide ONE example of people accusing a product of harm & manufacturers deny where the manufacturers were right. NOT ONCE IN HISTORY!

    So you resort to name-calling because that’s all you can do.
    Sad!

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    Most parents who Vax – don’t research vaccines – but “trust” their doctor and “the establishment”.
    Of those who DO research vaccines – most don’t vaccinate!

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    Ubiquitin, name me one GENETIC RETARDATION with normal facial features.

    Also, what is the Autism Rate of children who are 100% Unvaccinated?

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    Health:
    From Vaxopedia:
    From the Amish Clinic in Pa.
    β€œStrauss also sees plenty of Amish children showing symptoms of autism.
    β€œAutism isn’t a diagnosis – it’s a description of behavior. We see autistic behaviors along with seizure disorders or mental retardation or a genetic disorder, where the autism is part of a more complicated clinical spectrum. Fragile X syndrome and Rett Syndrome is also common among the clinic’s patients.”

    Health, Per Vaxopedia, many of the Amish Children with Autistic symptoms have a KNOWN Genetic Disorder such as Fragile X and Rett Syndrome.
    It’s like saying Amish Down Syndrome Children have autistic symptoms.

    Virtually all Amish Children who have IDIOPATHIC (no known cause) Autism WERE VACCINATED!
    But since Amish have a Very Low Vaccination Rate – they have very little Autism.

    Health, what is the AUTISM RATE of children who are 100% Unvaccinated?

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    Reb Yid – can you give ONE EXAMPLE of large groups of people claiming a product caused injury,
    manufacturer denied – and the people were wrong?

    I gave Six Examples.
    Can you give me ONE?

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    Why are so many vaccines 70+ necessary?
    Were massive amount of American Children dying in the 1960s & 1970s when only 4 vaccines were given?
    Were massive amount of American Children dying in the 1940s & 1950s when only 1 vaccine was given?

    After the QUADRUPLING of the Vaccine Schedule in 1990 (AFTER Vaccines Makers can’t be sued for
    causing death/injury) Autism has gone from 1:10,000 to 1:50 (and keeps getting higher), we have
    ADHD, Learning Disabilities, Speech Delays, Allergies, Asthma, DIabetes, Child Cancers, Epilepsy,
    Child Arthritis, Childhood Mental illness, etc.

    ProVaxxers – why can’t we go back to the SANER vaccine schedule of 1960? or 1980?
    When AMERICAN CHILDREN WERE HEALTHY! And Not Learning Disabled and/or Chronic illness!

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    And Most Anti-Vaxxers are COLLEGE EDUCATED and RICH – and RESEARCHED Vaccines.

    The children who are the Most Vaxxed are Poor and Uneducated.

    Maybe those Smart, Educated, Rich People who actually took the time to research vaccines
    might be right? Do you think?

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    Percentage of young U.S. children who don’t receive any vaccines has quadrupled since 2001.

    More parents are doing RESEARCH and not just blindly OBEYING ORDERS like a sheep!

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    ProVaxxers, What is the Autism Rate of Children who are 100% Unvaccinated?

    Why can’t you answer this question?

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    More evidence Vaccines cause Autism:

    Autopsies reveal autistic brains are full of ….(drum roll)…..ALUMINUM!
    And Anti-Vaxxers have said that Aluminum is one of the causes of Autism.
    Aluminum is also linked to – ALZHEIMERS

    Still want to inject your kids full of aluminum & other toxins starting from BEFORE BIRTH, AT BIRTH, Babies and children???

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    How many times have LARGE GROUPS of People accused a PRODUCT of causing harm
    and the MANUFACTURERS DENIED it?
    And who was ALWAYS RIGHT? The People claiming PRODUCT CAUSED HARM! ALWAYS!

    Cigarettes
    Lead Paint
    DDT
    Thalidomide
    Viox
    Acid Rain

    ProVaxxers, you really think that Vaccines is the EXCEPTION to the Rule?
    Rule: When Large Groups of People claim product is harmful, Manufacturers Deny, in the end
    the People claiming Product is Harmful are proven right – although it can take many years!

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    Cystic Fibrosis does not cause mental retardation.

    Scientists HAVE found the gene for Cystic Fibrosis which is identified by gene test.
    In 20 years of Research, Scientists cannot diagnosis Autism by gene test!

    NOBODY is claiming that their child’s Cystic Fibrosis was caused by Vaccines or other environment factor.
    Tens of thousands of parents with VIDEO say their 100% normal child regressed into autism after Vaxxed

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    The data shows that Autism spikes after increases in the Vaccine schedule!
    And that Pattern is observable in four different periods, in four different countries!

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    Provaxxers, what is the autism rate of children who are 100% unvaccinated?

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    Why Autism isn’t Primarily Genetic but must be Envirnomental:

    Here is a list of Genetic Retardation: Down Syndrome, Fragile X, Rett Syndrome, Williams Syndrome, Angelman Syndrome, Prader Willi Syndrome, Patau Syndrome, Edwards Syndrome, Cohen Syndrome

    ALL Genetic Retardation the children have ABNORMAL FACIAL FEATURES.
    Autism – NORMAL Face

    All Genetic Retardation can be diagnosed by a Gene Test:
    Autism – NOT. By Diagnosed by behavior. In 20 years of research, scientists can’t find specific gene

    ALL Genetic Retardation can be diagnosed at birth.
    Autism – NOT. Child at Birth 100% Normal

    ALL Genetic Retardation – developmentally delayed from birth:
    Autism – NOT. Develops Normally then REGRESSES after vaccination

    Genetic Retardation about 1:10,000 except for Down Syndrome 1:1,000
    Autism USED to be 1:10,000. Then CDC QUADRUPLED VACCINES and Autism is now 1:50

    The Rate for GENETIC Retardation has stayed the same. Has NOT gone from 1:10,000 to 1:50.
    Because it is IMPOSSIBLE for GENES to change so drastically in 50 years!
    But Autism HAS gone from 1:10,000 (genetic autism) to 1:50 (Vaccine Injured Autism)

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    Thirty two pages. And still going strong. You really think you’re going to convince each other?

    I think both sides are writing to convince “people on the fence” who might be following the debate.

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    Doomsday -β€œGenetics ALONE causes 1:10,000 to be Autistic”

    Health: Says who? That was in 1970, not today!

    Doomsday: β€œVaccines + Genetics Cause 1:50 to be Autistic.”

    Health: Says Who? You? Prove that.
    _______________________________________________________________________________

    Because GENES /People do not change so dramatically in 50 years!
    It is Scientifically IMPOSSIBLE for Autism to go from 1:10,000 in 1970 to 1:50 today
    if Autism was Solely Genetics!
    There HAS to be something in the ENVIRONMENT that is causing the Autism Epidemic

    Lung Cancer used to be extremely rare – until SMOKING became widespread.
    SMOKING caused the Lung Cancer Epidemic – although the Tobacco Industry LIED and DENIED
    for DECADES – hiring SCIENTISTS to conduct FAKE STUDIES to deny the smoking-lung cancer link.

    It was the Smoker vs NON smoker Study that PROVED that smoking causes lung cancer.
    That is why the Pharmaceutical Company will NEVER do a Vaxxed vs Unvaxxed Study!

    Provaxxers, What is the Autism Rate of children who are 100% Unvaxxed?

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    Health: “Maybe Autism in Unvaxxed Kids is 1 in 59?!?”

    No. Autism is VERY Rare in 100% Unvaxxed Kids. About 1:10,000.
    It is the VAXXED kids that are 1:50 Autistic!

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    Ok Health.

    Genetics ALONE causes 1:10,000 to be Autistic

    Vaccines + Genetics Cause 1:50 to be Autistic.

    Right?

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    2Cents “Are you arguing that other vaccines and not MMR vaccine cause autism, only because the data shows that MMR does not cause autism,”

    The DATA does NOT show that MMR does not cause Autism. The Vaccines Don’t Cause Autism Studies are ALL FRAUDS – and I PROVED they are Frauds. Here is ONE Example:

    2Cents: There was an increase, (become or make greater in size, amount, intensity, or degree.) in autism. In the same time, vaccines were not given at all, in this same period of time there was an increase in autism.
    Below is the exact quote. (of course, you omitted it, or maybe it was by error and unintentional)
    β€œRESULTS:
    The MMR vaccination rate in the city of Yokohama declined significantly in the birth cohorts of years 1988 through 1992, and not a single vaccination was administered in 1993 or thereafter. In contrast, cumulative incidence of ASD up to age seven increased significantly in the birth cohorts of years 1988 through 1996 and most notably rose dramatically beginning with the birth cohort of 1993.”

    The Study LIED when it said “NOT A SINGLE VACCINATION WAS ADMINSTERED in 1993 and thereafter”
    What the study meant was not a single MMR vaccination was administered.
    But omitting the word MMR was INTENTIONAL because ALL Fraudulent Studies denying the connection between Vaccines and Autism do the same thing! Like calling children who did not
    receive ONE vaccine “unvaccinated” when they WERE vaccinated. That is DELIBERATE FRAUD to
    MISLEAD the public that the study was vaxxed vs unvaxxed when it was vaxxed vs. vaxxed.

    More Fraud: In the summary of the study it says that Autism rate went UP after MMR was removed.
    But no where in the summary does it say that the MMR was REPLACED with THREE SEPARATE VACCINES. Here is a quote from the Body of the Study where this IMPORTANT fact was HIDDEN:

    “The [MMR] program was terminated in April 1993. Subsequently, only MONOVELENT [single] vaccines were administered…measles and rubella vaccinations were each specified for children between 12 and 90 months…the mumps vaccination was voluntary..It was also stipulated that an interval of at least four weeks separate administration of vaccination.”

    So the RESULTS of the study proclaim – AFTER MMR was stopped – Autism went up.
    What the RESULTS of the study OMITS – is that the MMR was replaced with THREE OTHER Vaccines – and THAT is why Autism went. So NO PROOF that MMR does not cause Autism. FAKE STUDY!

    2Cents – are you going to admit that the “MMR Doesn’t Cause Autism Study” YOU Cited is FRAUDULENT? β€œNo effect of MMR withdrawal on the incidence of autism: a total population study”

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    Here is MORE Proof 2Cents Lied when denying she was NOT referring to kids who are 100% Unvaxxed:

    Doomsday:β€œSiblings of children with autism who are 100% UNVAXXED do NOT have autism!”

    2Cents: If write it four times, and use exclamation points, some might take it as fact. If however you review the data, then what you wrote is incorrect.
    I have posted many sources of data that clearly demonstrate otherwise

    2Cents (after not being able to come up with ANY studies showing 100% Unvaccinated kids
    have Autism): I was not referring to 100% unvaxxed

    2Cents how can you DENY that you were NOT referring to kids who are 100% Unvaxxinated when you wrote that what I claimed (that kids who are 100% Unvaxxinated don’t have autism)
    is INCORRECT!!!

    Admit You LIED!

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    2Cents: “The focus has only been on the MMR, as that was the only vaccine for which an autism link was considered due to the fraudulent study from Wakefield. ”

    You mean you NEVER heard that THIMEROSAL is linked to Autism?
    And MMR NEVER Contained Thimerosal!
    You NEVER Heard that ALUMINUM is linked to Autism? And nearly ALL Vaccines have Aluminum!
    If you are really that ignorant, you should not be posting!

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    Doomsday: β€œSiblings of children with autism who are 100% UNVAXXED do NOT have autism!”
    2Cents:”I have posted many sources of data that clearly demonstrate otherwise, ”

    2Cents: Unlike you, I have no problem stating that I was not referring to 100% unvaxxed.

    LIAR!
    YES, YOU WERE Referring to children who 100% Unvaxxed.
    Because you were DISPUTING MY STATEMENT that children who are 100% Unvaxxed don’t have
    Autism (extremely rare).
    AND You claimed to have “MANY SOURCES OF DATA” to back up your Lie.

    But you could not come up with even ONE STUDY showing 100% Unvaccinated Children
    Autism.

    So you try to cover up your LIE with another LIE – that you were not referring to children
    who were 100% Unvaxxed – when You WERE referring to children who were 100% Unvaxxed!!!
    Because you disputing MY claim that 100% Unvaxxed Children don’t get Autism.

    SHAME ON YOU! You have ZERO Credibility.

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    Sorry. I meant I had mentioned websites that had STUDIES linking Vaccines to Autism (and other harm).
    I wrote this several times so I don’t know why you never heard that ALL Vaccines have been linked to Autism – Not just MMR.
    Google this to see the STUDIES – written by real PhD Scientists and Medical Doctors:
    1200 studies vaccine free ebook
    Dr. Millers 400 vaccine studies
    157 studies vaccines autism

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    doomsday -β€œI never said unvaxxed NEVER get Autism – I said it is VERY RARE, about 1:10,000.”

    Health: “Why would they get Autism – they weren’t Vaxxed?
    Where do you get that number from – Prove it?!?”

    I don’t know why they are autistic.
    The number is from Psychology Today (A PRO-VAX Magazine)
    “In 1970, only 1 child in 10,000 was diagnosed with autism. Today, according to the Centers for Disease Control, the number is 1 in 59.”

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    RedYid – I did not bring up preemies, you did.
    Preemies is not that relevant because while it does increase the risk of Autism
    IF the Preemies are Vaccinated – which the CDC insists there be no delayed Vaccination!

    But most Autistic Children are NOT preemies. They were healthy full term babies who were
    developing normally until they had a bad reaction after vaccination.

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    Folks, I have proven to you how ALL Vaccine Safety Studies ARE LYING! Here is another FAKE STUDY:

    RESULTS:
    A significant group difference emerged for overall immunization status (Fisher’s exact test = 62.70, p < .001). One or more immunizations in 59/98 younger sibs were delayed (47/98; 48%) or declined (12/98; 12.2%); immunizations were delayed in 16/98 probands (16.3%) and declined in only one. All controls were fully immunized, with only 6 (9.2%) delayed. Within the β€œyounger sibs” group, 25/98 received an autism spectrum disorder diagnosis; 7 of whom (28%) were fully immunized. The rates of autism spectrum disorder diagnosis did not differ between immunized and nonimmunized younger sib groups, although small sample size limits interpretability of this result.

    On Line 2 it writes about ONE or more vaccines being delayed or declined.
    And the Last Line it writes:
    “The rates of autism spectrum disorder diagnosis did not differ between immunized and nonimmunized younger sib groups”

    The LAST Line is lying that there is no difference in autism rate between “immunized and non-immunized”
    But ALL THE CHILDREN WERE IMMUNIZED! ALL THE CHILDREN WERE IMMUNIZED!
    The Fraudulent Researchers are LYING and calling children who skipped or delayed ONE VACCINE
    “Non-Immunized”

    How can you trust Vaccines when ALL the Vaccine Safety Studies are FRAUDULENT?????

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    2cents: Other than yourself, there have been no claims that vaccines are linked to autism other than the MMR vaccine.

    WHAT A LIE!
    You mean you never heard that Autism is linked to Mercury and Aluminum???
    For the Record, MMR NEVER CONTAINED MERCURY (Thimerosal)!

    I have posted about websites linking Vaccines to Autism – and most are NOT about MMR!

    Folks, you see how ProVaxxers tell Lie after Lie?
    How can you trust Vaccines, when the people who defend them have to resort to Lies?

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    Here is PROOF That 2Cents LIES:

    Doomsday: β€œSiblings of children with autism who are 100% UNVAXXED do NOT have autism!”
    2Cents:”I have posted many sources of data that clearly demonstrate otherwise, ”

    When I challenged 2Cents to produce “many sources of Data” showing 100% Unvaccinated Children getting autism – 2Cents could not produce even ONE!!!

    All 2Cents could say is that there are studies that siblings of autism are more likely to get autism.
    But in all those sibling studies the siblings were VACCINATED!!!

    Conclusion: 2Cents LIED – there are NO studies showing that children who are 100% Unvaccinated get Autism!

    I am NOT denying that Unvaccinated Children can get Autism – but it is EXTREMELY RARE!!!
    That is why CDC and Vaccine Industry will NEVER EVER do a Vaxxed vs Unvaxxed Study!!!

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    Health:”The bottom line is, even if there is some danger in getting Vaxxed (which I highly doubt), the benefit of people to get vaccinations, far outweigh any possible adverse effects!”

    Health, doesn’t it both you just a teeny tiny bit when I prove to you that Pro Vax Websites
    LIE to the American People – saying there are studies comparing vaccinated to unvaccinated?
    And the studies they cite are NOT vaxxed vs unvaxxed like the Pro Vax Websites Lied!!!

    If the American Media is LYING to you about Vaccines – shouldn’t that concern you??????

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    ProVaxxers, Can you tell me:

    What is the Autism Rate of Children who are 100% Unvaccinated?

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    Health: “Even if you’re right, you gotta read my whole post that Proves – Autism in 100% UNVAXXED KIDS!!!”

    I never said unvaxxed NEVER get Autism – I said it is VERY RARE, about 1:10,000.

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    Health: “A study published in the February 2014 issue of Autism found that β€œthe rates of autism spectrum disorder diagnosis did not differ between immunized and nonimmunized younger sib groups.”

    Health, the ProVax Website you copy and pasted from is LYING!!!
    The study of February 2014 did NOT compare “immunized and nonimmunized”.
    It compared siblings of Autistic Children who were FULLY Immunized vs Siblings who skipped or delayed ONE or more vaccines. NO WHERE does it say the siblings were 100% Unvaccinated!!!
    Below is an Excerpt of the Study:

    RESULTS:
    A significant group difference emerged for overall immunization status (Fisher’s exact test = 62.70, p < .001). One or more immunizations in 59/98 younger sibs were delayed (47/98; 48%) or declined (12/98; 12.2%); immunizations were delayed in 16/98 probands (16.3%) and declined in only one. All controls were fully immunized, with only 6 (9.2%) delayed. Within the “younger sibs” group, 25/98 received an autism spectrum disorder diagnosis; 7 of whom (28%) were fully immunized. The rates of autism spectrum disorder diagnosis did not differ between immunized and nonimmunized younger sib groups, although small sample size limits interpretability of this result.

    The TWO studies in the LYING Pro-Vax Website were comparing
    VAXXED vs VAXXED not Vaxxed vs Unvaxxed!!!

    Health, are you going to admit that your PRO VAX Website LIED when it claimed there are studies comparing Vaxxed to Unvaxxed???

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