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    CDC AND PHARMACEUTICAL COMPANIES ARE LYING THAT MEASLES KILLS 1:1,000.
    From CDC’s own website:
    β€œIn the decade before 1963 when a vaccine became available, nearly all children got measles by the time they were 15 years of age. It is estimated 3 to 4 million people in the United States were infected each year. Also each year, among reported cases, an estimated 400 to 500 people died,”
    If 3-4 MILLION got measles and 1:1,000 die then 3,000-4,000 should have died. But CDC estimates
    that 400-500 died – about 10x LESS then CDC and Pharmaceutical companies LIE about.

    Folks, when I proved that CDC and Pharmaceutical companies LIE, all the ProVaxxers went into a frenzy!
    Only DoingMyBest admitted that CDC and Merck LIED but said it didn’t matter(!). I guess we should just
    trust known liars when they tell us that vaccines are safe.

    Health wrote insults and gibberish: “Your reading comprehension is so Poor! Did you even finish High School? Go back and look at the CDC Website again. When the CDC Wrote 1 out of a thousand die – that’s from the 80’s till Now!” Can anyone explain this???
    Ubiquitin tried to spin that maybe Measles wasn’t listed as a cause of Death but Pneumonia or Encephalitis.
    But that is wrong because of 1912 LAW requiring all doctors to report all cases of measles to national agency.

    Daas Yochid & Millhouse try to spin that there really were 4,000 deaths from Measles but only 1,000 were reported based on the fact that CDC wrote that most measles cases were not reported. I WILL REFUTE THIS;

    Per CDC Website, in 1912 there was a LAW that all doctors & hospitals must report all cases of Measles. The reason most Measles cases were NOT reported is because Measles is Mostly HARMLESS and mothers did not even have to take the children to the doctor. That is why MOST measles cases were not reported.
    But if a child DIED that would have to be reported to Medical Authorities so there were
    1,000 deaths per 3-4 MILLION cases of Measles – NOT 3,000 – 4,000 deaths as CDC and MERCK LIED!!!

    Look how ProVaxers try to COVER UP when CDC and Pharmaceutical Companies LIE!!!!!!!!

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    Daasyochid: 2cents: Wants proof that vaccines cause encephalitis and encephalitis causes autism
    Doomsday:
    1. Mayo Clinic: β€œEncephalitis (en-sef-uh-LIE-tis) is inflammation of the brain. There are several causes, but the most common is viral infection.”
    Some vaccines contain LIVE viruses. Other Vaccines contain known neurotoxins including mercury & aluminum. Children get multiple vaccines at once so they are getting both LIVE viruses & neurotoxins at once!

    Do you honestly believe that this even vaguely resembles a proof?

    Folks, I gave FOUR Facts as evidence vaccines can cause autism and you need to read ALL FOUR to see my point. Daasyochid is being silly. Here are my Four Facts:

    1. Mayo Clinic: β€œEncephalitis (en-sef-uh-LIE-tis) is inflammation of the brain. There are several causes, but the most common is viral infection.”
    Some vaccines contain LIVE viruses. Other Vaccines contain known neurotoxins including mercury & aluminum. Children get multiple vaccines at once so they are getting both LIVE viruses & neurotoxins at once!
    2. Brain Inflamation a hallmark of autism, John Hopkins Analysis shows.
    3. Encephalitis and AUTISM are listed as adverse events on vaccine inserts. Also SIDS. These inserts are not shown to parents as required by law so all doctors are committing malpractice upon advise of CDC.
    4. Vaccine Court has paid out Millions to children who got encephalitis following vaccination.
    These compensated children who got encephalitis have Autism!
    5. Vaccine Court’s name is National Vaccine Injury Compensation – proof that vaccines cause injury!

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    Sorry 2scents – it was DoingMyBest who admitted that CDC and Merck lie that measles cause 1:1,000 deaths,
    and then said what does it matter – not you.

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    DoingMyBest:
    HRSA .GOV ON VACCINE INJURIES: β€œHow many petitions have been awarded compensation?
    According to the CDC, from 2006 to 2016 over 3.1 billion doses of covered vaccines were distributed in the U.S. For petitions filed in this time period, 5,564 petitions were adjudicated by the Court, and of those 3,773 were compensated. THIS MEANS FOR EVERY 1 MILLION DOSES OF VACCINE THAT WERE DISTRIBUTED, 1 INDIVIDUAL WAS COMPENSATED.”
    So, let’s calculate. We now have a 0.07 chance of dying if we don’t vaccinate and a .00001 chance of vaccine injury if we vaccinate.

    Doomsday: Per CDC, 30,000 injuries and deaths reported to VAERS per year.
    According to a Report by the Department of Health and Human Services:
    Electronic support for public health vaccine event reporting system (it’s on the internet)
    “FEWER THEN 1% OF VACCINE ADVERSE EVENTS ARE REPORTED” pg 6
    Dr. Susan Humphries stated that she (a medical doctor) never even heard of VAERS and there were
    no posters in hospitals informing doctors about VAERS!
    So if 30,000 injuries are reported and per the GOVERNMENT fewer then 1% are reported then there are
    really 3,000,000 injuries after vaccination! There are 168 DEATHS reported to VAERS. but since fewer then 1% are reported that would be 16,800 deaths following vaccination.
    3.1 Billion divided by 10 = 310 Million vaccines per year divided by 3 Million (injuries) = 1:103 vaccine injured
    310 Million divided by 16,800 (deaths) = 1:18,452 vaccine deaths
    Before measles vaccines there weren’t that many deaths from all measles, polio, small pox etc. combined!
    And these diseases didn’t cause millions of chronic conditions.
    EXPLAIN AGAIN HOW VACCINES ARE SAFE???

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    2cents: Wants proof that vaccines cause encephalitis and encephalitis causes autism

    Doomsday:
    1. Mayo Clinic: “Encephalitis (en-sef-uh-LIE-tis) is inflammation of the brain. There are several causes, but the most common is viral infection.”
    Some vaccines contain LIVE viruses. Other Vaccines contain known neurotoxins including mercury & aluminum. Children get multiple vaccines at once so they are getting both LIVE viruses & neurotoxins at once!
    2. Brain Inflamation a hallmark of autism, John Hopkins Analysis shows.
    3. Encephalitis and AUTISM are listed as adverse events on vaccine inserts. Also SIDS. These inserts are not shown to parents as required by law so all doctors are committing malpractice upon advise of CDC.
    4. Vaccine Court has paid out Millions to children who got encephalitis following vaccination.
    These compensated children who got encephalitis have Autism!
    5. Vaccine Court’s name is National Vaccine Injury Compensation – proof that vaccines cause injury!

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    DaasYochid: So an estimated 500 people died among the reported cases, not among the total estimated 3 to 4 million.

    Doomsday: Nice Try. CDC and Merck LIED! CAUSE OF DEATH must be written on ALL Death Certificates.
    So if 4,000 people died from Measles, all those deaths would be recorded on the Death Certificates
    i.e. ALL Measles Deaths were reported.
    So at most 500 people died from measles out 3-4 MILLION. And the reason most measles cases are unreported is because measles was considered SO HARMLESS that most mothers didn’t even take child to the doctor – children recovered just fine with bedrest and fluids.

    Folks, do you see how PROVAXERS LIE to cover up for CDC and Vaccine Makers???
    DoingMyBest admitted that CDC and Merck LIED but then asked Why does DMB have to prove that
    CDC and Merck didn’t lie to win the debate? The debate isn’t about whether CDC lies but about vaccines!
    Ummm if CDC and Merck LIE to the public, how can we trust them when they say vaccines are safe???
    Health claims my reading comprehension is poor – I scored in top 1% is USA for reading comprehension
    on my GRE after getting my Masters Degree.

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    CDC AND PHARMACEUTICAL COMPANIES ARE LYING THAT MEASLES KILLS 1:1,000.
    From CDC’s own website:
    β€œIn the decade before 1963 when a vaccine became available, nearly all children got measles by the time they were 15 years of age. It is estimated 3 to 4 million people in the United States were infected each year. Also each year, among reported cases, an estimated 400 to 500 people died,”
    If 3-4 MILLION got measles and 1:1,000 die then 3,000-4,000 should have died. But CDC estimates
    that 400-500 died – about 10x less then CDC and Pharmaceutical companies LIE about.

    DID YOU SEE THAT 2SCENTS SAID THAT SHE DOESN’T HAVE TO PROVE THAT CDC DOESN’T LIE???
    BUT WE SHOULD TRUST CDC AND BLINDLY OBEY!!!

     

    Please stop yelling.

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    2SCENTS: Regarding the 1:1000 for encephalitis i was quoting the Merck insert, just showing you that there is no admission of autism. Unlike you stated.

    Doomsday: Merck Vaccine Insert acknowledges that Vaccine can cause Encephalitis. Vaccine Court compensates children for getting encephalitis following vaccination. These children with encephalitis all have AUTISM. IF VACCINES CAN CAUSE ENCEPHALITIS, AND ENCEPHALITIS CAN CAUSE AUTISM, THAT MEANS THAT VACCINES CAN CAUSE AUTISM!
    If A can cause B and B can cause C, then A can cause C (high school logic/math)
    SO DO YOU ADMIT THAT VACCINES CAN CAUSE AUTISM?

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    2scents: Also, has there been any change in any of the supposed disorders you suppose were caused by thimerosal since its removal? the answer is no, so why still hold on to this?

    Doomsday: I will answer this AGAIN. After is was publicized that the amount of mercury in childhood vaccines exceeded the safety limit of the EPA, CDC said they would remove Thimerosal – BUT THEY DID NOT!
    1. Same time as all thimerosal containing vaccines were finished, CDC began recommending THIMEROSAL CONTAINING (25 mcg)! FLU SHOTS to Pregnant (!) Women and Babies/Children.
    2. Vaccines labeled “thimerosal free” can actually contain up to 1 mcg of Thimerosal. FDA doesn’t allow
    products labeled “gluten free” to contain “trace amounts” of gluten but LAWS WERE CHANGED FOR VACCINE INDUSTRY!
    3. Number of Vaccines were INCREASED – which also increased amount of other neurotoxins like aluminum.
    AND THAT IS WHY AUTISM DID NOT DECREASE AFTER THIMEROSAL WAS “REMOVED”. IT WAS NOT REMOVED IT WAS SHUFFLED AROUND (Flu Vaccines) and OTHER TOXINS LIKE ALUMINUM WERE INCREASED!

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    In 1977, Jonas Salk, the creator of the polio vaccine, testified before a Senate subcommittee that β€œall polio outbreaks since 1961 were caused by the oral polio vaccine.”

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    Winnie the Pooh: Ahh, nostalgia for the good old days when mothers buried their kids.

    Doomsday: 92.3% OF THE MORTALITY RATE DECLINE HAPPENED BETWEEN 1900 AND 1950,
    BEFORE MOST VACCINES AND ANTIBIOTICS EXISTED!
    It is a LIE that Vaccines and Antibiotics were responsible for the drop in disease that happened BEFORE VACCINES WERE INVENTED! Improvements in CLEAN WATER, Sanitation (toilets), Better Nutrition, Less Overcrowding are most likely reason for drop in mortality rate.

    This was admitted to by TOP DOCTORS and RESEARCHERS including:
    Dr. Edward Kass of Harvard, PRESIDENT OF INFECTIOUS DISEASES SOCIETY OF AMERICA in 1970 and the
    1977 McKinlay’s Study titled “The Questionable Contribution of Medical Measures to the Decline of Mortality in the United States in the Twentieth Century.”

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    Health: β€œAseptic meningitis may be caused by viruses, bacteria, fungi, parasites, drugs, systemic diseases, and miscellaneous other conditions.
    Doomsday:; You did not refute that what is called “Aseptic Meningitis” USED TO BE CALLED POLIO before
    the Polio Vaccine was introduced in 1954. YOU DID NOT REFUTE ANYTHING! You just listed possible causes
    of POLIO that is now RENAMED Aseptic Meningitis! And ONE of those possible causes of Aseptic Meningitis / Polio
    is vaccines – as it is listed as an ADVERSE EVENT of Polio Vaccines! And Dr. Salk INVENTOR OF POLIO VACCINE admitted that most cases of Polio in US is caused by the Polio Vaccine!

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    2SCENTS: Far lower than the 1 in 1000 encephalitis cases seen from the wild measles virus.
    THAT IS WRONG, PER THE CDC!
    From CDC Website: https://www.cdc.gov/measles/about/history.html
    “In the decade before 1963 when a vaccine became available, nearly all children got measles by the time they were 15 years of age. It is estimated 3 to 4 million people in the United States were infected each year. Also each year, among reported cases, an estimated 400 to 500 people died, 48,000 were hospitalized, and 1,000 suffered encephalitis (swelling of the brain) from measles.”
    2scents, if 1:1000 got encephalitis from wild measles there would have been 3,000 – 4,000 measles encephalitis a year but per CDC there was only 1,000 cases of encephalitis. STOP SPREADING DISINFORMATION PLEASE!
    The encephalitis from wild measles must have been very mild because autism was 1:10,000 but today
    autism is 1:59. The vaccine court compensated children who got encephalitis following vaccines. All those
    children who got encephalitis following vaccines are severely autistic but children did not become severely autistic from wild measles!

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    Doing my best: According to the CDC, 1 in a thousand measles cases die. if there were no vaccines everyone would have gotten the measles. This means that 41,000 of those 41 million would have died. so we have the option of either 10,000 vaccine injuries vs. 41,000 deaths.
    Which do you think is worse? If you do not PROVE this reasoning wrong, you have lost the debate.

    Doomsday: CDC is LYING when it says 1:1,000 die of measles and I will prove it to you. Before measles vaccine was licensed in 1963, the CDC admits there was massive underreporting of measles cases and that β€œbecause virtually all children acquired measles, the number of measles cases probably approached 3.5 million per year . Yet the number of DEATHS from measles was only 400-500 per year. If the Death rate from Measles
    were 1:1,000 as CDC claims, there would have been 3,500 deaths, NOT 400-500 deaths CDC itself says occurred.
    I WON THE DEBATE UNLESS YOU CAN PROVE THAT CDC DIDN’T LIE WHEN IT SAYS 1:1,000 DIE OF MEASLES!

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    Millhouse says I am lying when I say that Amish don’t vaccinate and autism is extremely rare among Amish.
    Millhouse gave two links to prove his point.

    Links removed here too

    In 2005, an article that Amish don’t vaccinate and don’t get autism was published.
    Following that article, the CDC began a very aggressive campaign to vaccinate the Amish, including going
    door to door and scaring the Amish into vaccinating. The Amish were scared to vaccinate and only agreed to
    ONE vaccine! And after the Amish started vaccinating,, voila, NOW the Amish also have autism – but at a much
    lower rate!
    Millhouse – here is an excerpt from the article YOU CITED and Gave the Link:
    “A 2011 study published in the journal Pediatrics surveyed 1,000 Amish parents about their vaccination habits. Of the 359 people who responded:
    68% stated that all of their children had received at least 1 immunization”
    It is safe to assume that the 641 Amish who did NOT respond, do not vaccinate, so the vaccination rate of
    Amish is less then 68%. And the ones who did vaccinate gave ONE immunization, Not the 74 doses given to
    most children.
    “Preliminary data have identified the presence of ASD in the Amish community at a rate of approximately 1 in 271 children ” So the AMISH VACCINATE LESS, AND HAVE LESS AUTISM! The rate of autism in general population is 1:59.
    So Millhouse, the article YOU CITED indicates LESS VACCINATION = LESS AUTISM!
    68% stated that all of their children had received at least 1 immunization

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    Millhouse: All the β€œdoctors” you cite are liars. They all make very good money from gullible people like you. Why should we give them more credibility than you give normal doctors, the CDC, and the vaccine industry?”

    Doomsday: Give me proof that the doctors I cited are “getting rich” by reporting that autism is very rare
    among unvaccinated.
    But CDC and Vaccine Industry ARE making BILLIONS $$$ EVERY YEAR from Vaccines! Are you aware
    that the CDC OWNS 50 VACCINE PATENTS? That is called a CONFLICT OF INTEREST & ANTI SCIENCE!
    Are you aware that HALF of all NEW DRUGS are withdrawn because they cause so much Death and Injury?
    How is that possible if all Drugs are “safety tested” by Pharmaceutical Industry and are approved by FDA???
    As for “normal doctors” – any doctor who refuses to give vaccines because he/she recognizes that the risks outweigh the benefits LOSE THEIR LICENSE! Doctors support vaccines because THEY ARE COERCED!

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    POLIO WAS NOT ERADICATED – IT WAS RENAMED BY THE CDC AFTER POLIO VACCINE INTRODUCED:
    1. Cases of inflammation of the membrane that protects the brain and spinal neuron cells, causing muscular weakness and pain (but not paralysis) were no longer classified as β€œpolio”; they were now to be referred to as aseptic meningitis, even if the polio virus was present.
    Reported cases of aseptic meningitis went from near zero to thousands, and polio cases dropped the same amount.

    2. Then, later in 1958, the CDC changed the definition of β€œpolio” again!! All cases with classic polio paralytic symptoms were to be called acute flaccid paralysis. In 1960, the CDC triumphantly declared large parts of the world as β€œpolio free,” while the newly created acute flaccid paralysis β€œmysteriously” became quite common.

    3. Another new name for Polio is Guillian-Barre Syndrome which is defined as a “polio-like” illness
    (but don’t call it Polio!)

    4. Prior to Polio Vaccine, Polio was diagnosed if patient had paralysis for 24 hours. After polio vaccine, CDC CHANGED THE CRITERIA for diagnosing polio – the paralysis now how to last 90 days too be called Polio.
    Since 90% of Polio patients have a complete recovery, people who recovered from Polio were no longer being
    diagnosed as ever having had Polio!

    5. EVERY Year there are 75,000 cases of aseptic meningitis, 6,000 cases of guillian-barre syndrome, 1,400 cases of traverse myletis = 82,400 cases of “POLIO-LIKE” illnesses every year! This is about equal to the PEAK rate of Polio prior to the Polio Vaccine.

    6. All of the above “Polio-Like” illnesses are listed on Vaccine Inserts as a common Adverse Event following
    vaccination. That is, Vaccines may cause “polio-like” illnesses!

    7. In 1977, Jonas Salk, the creator of the polio vaccine, testified before a Senate subcommittee that β€œall polio outbreaks since 1961 were caused by the oral polio vaccine.” In 1985, the CDC reported that 87% of the cases of polio in the USA between 1973 and 1983 were caused by the vaccine and most of the reported cases occurred in fully immunized individuals.

    8. CDC also redefined definition of “Polio Epidemic”. Before vaccines if there were 20 cases of Polio per 100,000 it was a “Polio Epidemic”. AFTER Polio Vaccine, there had to be 35 cases of Polio per 100,000 to be called a
    “Polio Epidemic”. Then CDC Falsely claimed that Polio Vaccines caused drop in “Polio Epidemics” when it was
    the NEW DEFINITION that was responsible for the “drop”! This was reported by Chicago Tribune, 1960.

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    Health, you lack reading comprehension. The Merck Manual says that vaccines can cause encephalitis. And encephalitis can cause autism. AND the Merck Manual also says we don’t know what causes autism, it appears to have a genetic component.
    Don’t you see how Merck is talking out of both sides of their mouth? THEY ADMIT THAT VACCINES CAN CAUSE ENCEPHALITIS (which can cause autism) but then they LIE and say “we don’t know what causes autism”!
    Anyone with good reading comprehension would notice that Merck is contradicting itself!

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    Health: From the CDC:
    β€œThimerosal is a mercury-based preservative that has been used for decades in the United States in multi-dose vials (vials containing more than one dose) of medicines and vaccines. There is no evidence of harm caused by the low doses of thimerosal in vaccines
    Doomsday: There are 90 published peer reviewed studies showing that Thimerosal causes harm.
    Are you aware that the CDC owns 50 vaccine patents? Are you aware that HALF the new drugs are withdrawn within 5 years of release because they cause so much death and injury? And all these drugs underwent “rigorous safety tests” by Big Pharma and were approved by FDA.
    The drug Viox killed 60,000 people – and it was “safety tested” and approved by FDA.
    Still trust “safety tests” and government agencies who have financial ties to Pharmaceutical Companies?
    was “safety tested” and approved by FDA.

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    2Scents: Autism isnt the only thing thats on the rise, obesity, diabetes, asthma, cardiac diseases and strokes. We now see them in younger people. Im sure these are all associated with vaccines (for sure not with the unhealthy life style and genetics). Oh.. but vaccines arent new, so why are these diseases kn the rise?
    Doomsday:
    In 1950, there were 3 childhood vaccines typically given when a child entered school.
    In 1983, there were 10 recommended vaccines by the age of 6 years old (24 doses, 7 injections, 4 oral doses for polio).
    In 2016, the schedule has increased to 74 doses by age 17 with 53 injections and 3 oral doses of rotavirus.
    These rapid increases in the vaccine schedule mean that a 6 month old baby born today would receive over 2.5 times the number of vaccines as the maximum permitted for a 6 year old back in the 1980’s. And, by the time that same baby was 12 years old, he/she would have received over 7X the number of vaccines as a child born 30 years ago.
    Predictably, children today are suffering from autoimmune disorders, behavioral problems, and physical disabilities at a rate growing in lockstep with the skyrocketing number of shots.

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    Syog Lchochma: Do you know why these statements are just plain silly? because directly correlating means nothing.
    Doomsday: Do you know who else said that correlation means nothing?
    For Decades the TOBACCO INDUSTRY LIED and DENIED that cigarettes cause cancer!
    Tobacco Industry hired scientists to chant “correlation does not mean causation”.
    Do you know what PROVED that smoking causes cancer?
    A study comparing cancer rates of smokers vs non-smokers.
    Do you know what study CDC refuses to do? A study comparing vaccinated to unvaccinated!!!
    WHY DO YOU SUPPOSE CDC REFUSES TO DO THAT STUDY???

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    twocents: A. No one admitted that vaccines trigger autism only that the age when autism is detected happens to correlate with the age we give vaccines.
    Doomsday: YOU are lying. Neither vaccine court nor merck “admitted that autism happens to correlate with age we give vaccines” as you falsely stated.
    Vaccine Court has paid out Millions for encephalitis which was caused by vaccines. This was confirmed in the MERCK Manual that vaccines can cause encephalitis. Encephalitis is inflamation/swelling of the brain which can cause PERMANENT BRAIN DAMAGE i.e. Autism.

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    @doingmybest: So if we don’t take vaccines, 1 in a thousand die. if we do take vaccines 1 in a million gets damaged.
    Answer: Today’s children are the SICKEST GENERATION EVER!
    1:6 children are learning disabled
    1:6 children are allergic
    1:13 children have asthma
    1:15 children have ADHD
    1:5 teens had episode of mental illness
    1:8 children have IBS
    1:59 children have autism
    1:100 children have epilepsy
    1:250 children have tourettes syndrome
    1:400 children have diabetes
    1:775 babies die of SIDS
    1:1,000 children have Celiac Disease
    1:5,560 children have CANCER
    168 Deaths following vaccines reported to VAERS every year. ZERO deaths from Measles.
    TELL ME HOW ALL THE ABOVE IS BETTER THEN MEASLES?

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    Vaccine Court has paid out large awards to autistic children recognizing that they are VACCINE INJURED.
    But the diagnosis Vaccine Court recognizes is Encephalitis (brain damage caused by inflamation, swelling).
    Children who get Encephalitis often have PERMANENT Brain Damage diagnosed as “autism”.
    The Merck Manual explains the causes of encephalitis as:
    β€œA virus directly infects the brain.
    A virus that caused an infection in the past becomes reactivated and directly damages the brain.
    A virus or vaccine triggers a reaction that makes the immune system attack brain tissue (an autoimmune reaction).”
    So Merck, biggest Vaccine Manufacturer, acknowledges that Vaccines cause Brain Damage. And that is
    what Autism is – Brain Damage. And Autistic Children have received Millions $$$ from Vaccine Court.

    in reply to: Why Are Torah Observant Jews Overwhelmingly Republican/Conservative? #1630998
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    Today’s Democrat Party does NOT “live and let live”. That would be the Republican Party.
    Today’s Democrat Party says if you don’t want to service homosexual weddings we will persecute you
    and bankrupt you.
    Today’s Democrat Party says if you are opposed to homosexuality and transgender you are a “Hater”
    and “Homophobe”.
    Today’s Democrat party says if you “misgender” someone (call a man…a man) you should GO TO JAIL!
    This is an actual law proposed by Democrats.
    Today’s Democrats use violence to silence all opposition and is ANTI FREE SPEECH and ANTI FREEDOM OF RELIGION. And ANTI ISRAEL. Don’t know how any frum Jew can vote Democrat for National Office.

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    If autism is “genetic” how did the autism rate go from 1:10,000 in 1970s to 1:59 today???

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    Reb Yid: Why are anti-vaxxers obsessed with Autism?
    Answer: Because Autism has gone from 1:10,000 in 1970s to 1:58 today. Autism rise directly correlates to
    increase in vaccinations.
    But it’s not just autism. 1:6 children are learning disabled. Many have ADHD. Also diabetes, cancer, epilepsy, mental illness, allergies, asthma, sids, chrohns disease, IBS is skyrocketing in children!

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    There are many toxins in vaccines but the ones likely to cause brain damage (autism) are
    Thimerosal (Mercury) and Aluminum. These are known neurotoxins.

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    Most alternative therapy is FREE or LOW COST. The main therapy is to eat a healthy organic diet and avoid
    exposure to chemicals. Next is to take vitamin supplements which cost pennies. People have used nutrition and supplements to cure cancer and other diseases and NOBODY is profiting over this information which is available for FREE on the internet. The only companies making HUGE PROFITS off sickness is BIG PHARMA!

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    You admit that vaccines triggered autism, then claim without any evidence that these children would have developed autism anyway. Parents who had a child develop autism after vaccines, usually refuse to vaccinate their younger children who DON’T develop autism. Autism is extremely rare among unvaccinated children.
    That is why CDC refuses to do a study comparing Vaccinated children to Unvaccinated Children.

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    1. Autism is extremely rare in unvaccinated children. From AgeofAutism Website:

    Homefirst Medical Services provides medical care for families who choose to have home births and avoid vaccines in the Chicago area. They have treated around 35,000 of these children over the years. Homefirst’s medical director, the late Dr. Mayer Eisenstein, said in an interview a few years ago β€œβ€¦ I don’t think we have a single case of autism in children delivered by us who never received vaccines.”

    Let’s try Amish children. They are mostly unvaccinated. Dr. Frank Noonan is a doctor who treats Amish children in Lancaster County, Pennsylvania. He has said that he has seen no cases of autism in the thousands of Amish children he has treated over 25 years. β€œYou’ll find all the other stuff, but we don’t find the autism. We’re right in the heart of Amish country and seeing none, and that’s just the way it is.” Dr. Heng Wang is a neurologist and the director of the Clinic for Special Needs Children in Ohio, another area where there is a large Amish population. He has estimated the rate of autism in the Amish community to be 1 in 15,000.

    Dr. Jeff Bradstreet, a Florida family doctor who died mysteriously recently, proposed a study of unvaccinated children. He said β€œI know I can tap into this community and find you large numbers of unvaccinated homeschooled children. We can do simple prevalence and incidence studies in them. My gut reaction is that you’re going to find no autism in this group.”

    Rather than being very easy, finding unvaccinated children with autism seems to be downright difficult. Doctors Eisenstein, Noonan, Wang, and Bradstreet have been out there on the front lines actually treating unvaccinated children. Their assessment that autism is quite rare in these children is valid.

    Conclusion: Autism is common in fully vaccinated children but rare in unvaccinated children.
    2. There are 24 Peer Reviewed Studies linking Autism to Vaccines
    3. AUTISM IS LISTED ON THE VACCINE INSERT AS A KNOWN ADVERSE ADVENT TO VACCINES.
    4. Vaccine Court has paid out millions to children who became autistic following vaccination.

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    I would wait at least FIVE YEARS before taking any new vaccine or drug.
    Do you know that HALF of all drugs are WITHDRAWN within 5 years of release because
    the new drugs kill and injure so many people?
    And these are all drugs that are supposedly “safety-tested” and approved by CDC.
    Which goes to show that you cannot trust “safety studies” or CDC!

    in reply to: Why Are Torah Observant Jews Overwhelmingly Republican/Conservative? #1630674
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    1. Democrat Party embraces Islam and is Anti Israel and is pro BDS movement.
    2. Democrat Party is ANTI RELIGION and uses the LGBQT Agenda to persecute Religion.
    In England the Leftists are using LGBQT as excuse to shut down yeshivas and beis yakovs.
    And this is what Leftist Democrats want to do here.
    3. Democrats are Pro Socialism which brings Tyranny, Persecution of Religion and Poverty.

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    There are thousands of parents of parents who say their children had reaction to vaccines (hi fever, seizures, hours of screaming) and then REGRESSED into autism. There are befire/after VIDEOS of children who stopped talking and/or stopped walking after vaccines.
    There are ADULTS who became vaccine injured after flu shot and gardasil shot – there is no doubt that their injuries were caused by the vaccines.
    Vaccine Court has paid 4 BILLION for vaccine injuries, including for autistic children and deaths!

    doomsday
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    Folks, when a Pro-Vaxxer tells me not to respond to them anymore it means they can’t refute my argument!
    As for the claim that Autistic children existed in the past, they were just called “mentally retarded”
    Per a 1982 GOVERNMENT report titled “Prevalence of Mentally Retarded” in 1980 the prevalence of
    severely retarded was 1:250. Today NON VERBAL Autism is 1:140 – that is almost DOUBLE!
    1:6 children have a learning disability today!!!

    doomsday
    Participant

    “Even after thimerosal was removed from almost all childhood vaccines, autism rates continued to increase, which is the opposite of what would be expected if thimerosal caused autism.”
    Health, I answered that. At the same time thimerosal was removed from child vaccines, CDC began recommending FLU vaccines for pregnant women and babies/children. THese flu shot contain
    25 mcg Thimerosal! And the so called “thimerosal-free” vaccines still contain so-called “trace amounts” of
    Thimerosal. So Thimerosal was not really removed, it was SHUFFLED Around. That is why Autism rates continued to rise.

    doomsday
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    YOUR ARE WRONG! According to CDC and FDA government organizations Thimerosal contains Mercury (50%)
    CDC quote: “Thimerosal is a mercur y-containing compound ”
    FDA quote: “Thimerosal, which is approximately 50% mercury by weight”
    Per the FDA, Thimerosal was Removed because babies were getting More Mercury then EPA says was safe:
    FDA quote: infants could have been exposed to cumulative levels of mercury during the first six months of life that exceeded Environmental Protection Agency (EPA) recommended guidelines for safe intake of methylmercury.
    At the same time Thimerosal was removed from vaccines, CDC began recommending Thimerosal containing FLU Shots for Pregnant women and Babies. So Thimerosal exposure was not reduced – it was just SHUFFLED around. That is why Autism rates did not go down. Then CDC LIED and said “See, we removed Thimerosal and autism rates went up”. CDC did not remove Thimerosal – they ADDED Thimerosal FLU SHOTS at the same time as they removed Thimerosal from other vaccines. And even Thimerosal-Free Vaccines CONTAIN “trace amounts” of Thimerosal. So why do they LIE and write Thimerosal Free on the vaccine?

    doomsday
    Participant

    Thank you. We are living in an OLAM HASHEKER and it takes RESEARCH to uncover the Truth.

    doomsday
    Participant

    “furthermore, as I have mentioned multiple times, the doctors and other providers have no monetary gain to follow the latest recommendations and evidence. ”
    Doctors are FORCED to follow protocol or risk losing their license and being sued.
    If a doctor follows protocol and the patient dies or is injured, the doctor is immune from prosecution.
    If a doctor refuses to do vaccines he/she WILL lose his/her medical license. So doctors are NOT FREE to
    do what they think is best for the patient but must FOLLOW ORDERS.

    in reply to: Election Results 2018 — Republicans Do Better Than Expected #1621725
    doomsday
    Participant

    Letting people buy insurance AFTER they get sick (pre-existing condition) is like letting people buy
    fire insurance AFTER their house burns down! Why would anybody buy health insurance when they
    are healthy if they can wait until AFTER they’re sick to buy insurance? This condition is designed to
    destroy Insurance and force us into Government Health Care which will Cost You MORE in higher taxes
    then paying for insurance and you will get LESS and Worse Health Care.

    in reply to: Vitamins: Ever noticed a difference? #1532806
    doomsday
    Participant

    Deaths from Prescription Drugs: Over 100,000 per year (one of the leading causes of death)
    Deaths from Vitamins: Zero
    So vitamins are waaaaay safer then drugs. Are they effective? Some studies say yes,
    some say no. Remember, Big Pharma funds studies “proving” vitamins don’t work.
    And all vitamin companies are not the same – natural vitamins vs synthetic.

    in reply to: Gee thanks, anti-vaxxers #1500182
    doomsday
    Participant

    The Pregnant Mother was Vaccinated against Chicken Pox as a Child but the immunity wore off – it’s only Temporary immunity. Had the mother gotten harmless Chicken Pox as a child she would have had Permanent Lifetime immunity. Understand?

    in reply to: Gee thanks, anti-vaxxers #1500103
    doomsday
    Participant

    There are thousands of mothers who report that their healthy children had seizures after vaccines and were severely brain damaged permanently! Big Pharma got protection from malpractice suits (why is that necessary if vaccines are so safe?) but US “vaccine court” paid out nearly 4 Billion in compensation to vaccine injured children – even with denying 2/3 of claims to cover-up how many are really injured. And most injured don’t even make claims. On the Vaccine Inserts (which no parent is ever shown) it says can cause Death, Seizures, Encephalitis, AUTISM, etc.
    American Children: 1:6 learning disabled 1:9 asthma 1:10 mental disorder 1:13 severely allergic 1:20 epileptic 1:50 autistic, 1:400 diabeticβ€’ childhood cancer skyrocketing, SIDS skyrocketing
    ARE VACCINES WORTH THE RISK??? Big Pharma makes Billions on Vaccines and TRILLIONS are sick children!

    in reply to: Gee thanks, anti-vaxxers #1500097
    doomsday
    Participant

    If the mothers got chicken pox while pregnant its because they got the chicken pox vaccine which is TEMPORARY IMMUNITY while getting chicken pox give you LIFETIME IMMUNITY and nursing mothers can pass the antibodies to their babies (but not vaccinated mothers).

    in reply to: Who's Worse – Trump or Clinton? #1190345
    doomsday
    Participant

    Clinton is worse. Democrats and Establishment Republicans want to establish tyranny in the US. Google and YouTube: Agenda 21 (UN Proposal). Since both Democrats and Establishment Republicans HATE Trump he gets my vote -enemy of my enemy is my friend (usually).

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