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yitayningwut: If you’re going to argue against the Pri Megadim and the Mishna Berura, you’re going to need support from other Achronim rather than arguing against them yourself.
I would like to echo everything Toi has written above (that’s a +1, for the Gen X crowd) and add that, in fact, the lishmo drunk crowd vastly outnumber the lo lishmo drunk crowd.
There are two critical points:
1. We killed our mortal enemies and need not apologize. We did so under the color of the law as decreed by the King.
2. In Shushan we asked for an additional day so that we can finish off those we didn’t have time to finish on the first day. This fact disproves that we only killed those who were going to kill us first due to the King’s original decree against the Jews.
I think we should all respect those who don’t get slammed ad dlo yoda on Purim in accordance with the minority opinions while we insist they too respect us who do take ad dlo yoda… arrur haman baruch mordechai literally per the peak of the SA and rov Rishonim.
om: You’re mistaken, though I am curious how you see holding your wife’s hand in the street any differently than hugging her (or more) in the street.
Most of the posters here are missing two critical points:
1. Hatzalah does not often take pregnant women to the hospital, as they usually go with their husband or by car service.
2. Women across America (Jews and Gentiles) use standard 911 EMS service that has a chance that the paramedic and ambulance crew will be male or female. The patient rarely ever knows in advance. Yet there is no major outcry by American women to institute a “female ambulance service” due to “women’s special needs” only addressable by “other women”.
So, frankly, this whole hubabaloo is much ado about nothing, regarding an unneeded service being promoted for feministic reasons that will rarely be called.
Does anyone really think frum women are going to call this newfangled women’s ambulance service instead of calling Hatzalah when they are in midst of a medical emergency??
yitayningwut: are you suggesting they might be allowed to go in public with erva uncovered?
Your “disagreement” with the “concept” doesn’t override the psak of the relevant poskim who ruled it necessary.
Also, it is impermissible to show chiba in public (i.e. holding hands on the street.)
The overwhelming majority of Rishonim and Achronim pasken that there is a chiyuv to get drunk on Purim. Most of the discussion is only how drunk it is required to become. Some (a minority) of rabbonim today speak of alternatives due to their understanding of some youth of this generation’s abuse of it. Though that is not affecting the requirements of (non-driver) adults.
Many tzadikim were (and are) against being photographed.
Sam2: You provided a memory on the chiyuv to drink on Purim night. Is there any mekor not to drink Purim night? And what leads you to think “we” pasken which way?
And, is not the basic halacha in S’A that the chiyuv on Purim is to get drunk, not simply to drink more than usual? (Granting the other opinions that are more lenient in allowing one not to get drunk.)
” The common denominators throughout the bais yaakov system are their rule books and their ideal end products. Uniform, no talking to boys, tznius, good middos, and being taught the majority of your school subjects by Rabbis and rebbitzins.”
Other than uniforms, how is this any different than a MO school?
” it was the samething at the high schooli wentto,but they werealso rebbitzins, rebbitzins can do whatever career they wantprovided thatit is acceptable within the frameworkofhalacha.They couldeven be doctors.”
What, exactly, makes them a “rebbitzen”? Your description makes them a Mrs.
old man: That wasn’t the custom in the TIDE Kehila of RSRH, and I question whether that is a legitimate “minhag”.
As akuperma mentioned, this is an an ancient minhag. It is brought down in Machzor Vitri (circa ~ 11th century CE). Further, by the end of tantz, which is when the chosson and kallah are the final participants and is typically quite late into the night, ONLY immediate family should be there. Also, the minhag by even many who do not have a mitzva tantz (i.e. Chaim Berlin’s minhag) is that the choson and kallah hold hands in public from the end of the chupa into the yichud room.
benignuman: That is a misquote of Rav Yaakov. He disagreed with the SR, but he certainly did not say what you quoted.