Everyone give up? You’ve almost got it.

Just to clarify….I never meant to SKIP zero. The two options I was thinking of were either to have zero only count as the low end of the string, because zero is actually the smallest value digit, so the only options would be numbers that contain 0-1-2-3, 1-2-3-4, 2-3-4-5, 3-4-5-6, 4-5-6-7, 5-6-7-8, and 6-7-8-9, OR to allow zero to connect the lowest digits to highest digits (kind of like an ace connects the lows and the highs in the card game spit), which would also allow 7-8-9-0, 8-9-0-1, and 9-0-1-2. There are 24 possible orders for any four unique digits, so that would be 168 possibilities if zero only counts low, 240 possibilities if zero can “string”. There are 9,000 positive integers that contain 4 digits, so that’s 168/9000 or 1.8667% if zero is low, 240/9000 or 2.6667% if zero strings. To have two such numbers independently, you just square the odds, so 0.0348% if zero is low, 0.0711% if zero strings.

My sentence “The year 2,013 is the first year since 1,987 to have all unique digits, and when rearranged they are also consecutive” was admittedly confusing lol. ‘They are also consecutive’ was not referring to the 1,987; following either of the two possibilities, 1987 would not be consecutive (and I think just deciding to “ignore” zero wouldn’t be a very fair move, saysme, but thanks for the thought). The only commonality between 1987 and 2013 is the uniqueness of digits, which none of the years between them have.

midwesterner – 1987 is NOT consecutive, it’s just all unique digits like 2013, which none of the years in between share with them. 2013 and 2543 are both consecutive and unique.

That’s actually really funny – he now has 2,543 posts, a number in which all the digits are different and when rearranged are consecutive. The year 2,013 is the first year since 1,987 to have all unique digits, and when rearranged they are also consecutive. The chances of two numbers having that characteristic is 0.07%, even if you include numbers like 1,809 which string from “below” zero to above zero. If you only count above zero, e.g. 3,201, it’s a 0.035% chance. (yes, the odds of SOME numerically significant similarity between the two numbers occurring is a lot higher, but it’s still neat :P)

1) Is it manmade? Yes

2) Does it use electricity? No

3) Is it metal? It contains metal.

4) Is it colorful (3 or more colors)? It can be (usually not really)

5) is it bigger then a computer screen/monitor? (Since that can vary, I’ll assume you meant an average size of about 20″) Yes

6) Is it a household object? I’m gonna go with Yes (It’s not a chair)

7) Does it have legs? No

8) Is it partially ceramic? No

9) is it movable? Yes

10) Does it hold other stuff in it? No

11) Does it have wheels? No

12) Is its primary use outdoors? No

13) Is it used for recreational purposes (as opposed to something used to accomplish something necessary/boring)? Yes!

14) Is it primarily used by children (under 10 years)? No

1) Is it manmade? Yes

2) Does it use electricity? No

3) Is it metal? It contains metal.

4) Is it colorful (3 or more colors)? It can be (usually not really)

5) is it bigger then a computer screen/monitor? (Since that can vary, I’ll assume you meant an average size of about 20″) Yes

6) Is it a household object? I’m gonna go with Yes (It’s not a chair)

7) Does it have legs? No

8) Is it partially ceramic? No

9) is it movable? Yes

10) Does it hold other stuff in it? No

11) Does it have wheels? No

12) Is its primary use outdoors? No

1) Is it manmade? Yes

2) Does it use electricity? No

3) Is it metal? It contains metal.

4) Is it colorful (3 or more colors)? It can be (usually not really)

5) is it bigger then a computer screen/monitor? (Since that can vary, I’ll assume you meant an average size of about 20″) Yes

6) Is it a household object? I’m gonna go with Yes (It’s not a chair)

7) Does it have legs? No

8) Is it partially ceramic? No

9) is it movable? Yes

10) Does it hold other stuff in it? No

11) Does it have wheels? No

Soccer is boring. The end.

How did 90% of the posters completely miss the point of the OP’s question? Admittedly, the title is a bit misleading, but the OP’s actual question has nothing to do with the issur of kol isha; it has to do with an issue facing vocally talented men and women alike, the issue of sincerity in music, which is no small matter for those concerned with connecting to G-d (for themselves and others) through music. Music is extremely powerful, and the feelings a performer has when performing are often felt by the listeners and can make a huge impact on them, as well.

There is a certain awesome connection one can attain with G-d through music which this girl has likely experienced in the past. Music can be a form of tefillah, and some people connect to G-d through music as some do through limud Torah and as others do through gemilas chesed.

It is natural that while performing for others it is much harder to attain this connection, as it is almost impossible not to think about how others hear your music, and you are also much more focused on playing/singing everything correctly than you would be at say, a kumzitz.

That being said, if the music itself is music that is spiritual and meaningful, and has a good message, imho if you are AWARE of that and would like the positive message to come across and to inspire people, then it WILL come across (regardless of your exact thoughts DURING the performance). Thoughts of ga’avah are natural, but your awareness of and concern about them in and of themselves in a way prove that showing off is NOT your intent. It is highly important to keep that awareness, but as long as the thing you WANT to come across is that feeling of inspiration and spirituality, imho that is what will come across.

ICOT – Haha, yeah, no harm. I still know you’re smart (just like the mensa dude).

1) Is it manmade? Yes

2) Does it use electricity? No

3) Is it metal? It contains metal.

4) Is it colorful (3 or more colors)? It can be (usually not really)

5) is it bigger then a computer screen/monitor? (Since that can vary, I’ll assume you meant an average size of about 20″) Yes

6) Is it a household object? I’m gonna go with Yes (It’s not a chair)

7) Does it have legs? No

8) Is it partially ceramic? No

9) is it movable? Yes

1) Is it manmade? Yes

2) Does it use electricity? No

3) Is it metal? It contains metal.

4) Is it colorful (3 or more colors)? It can be (usually not really)

5) is it bigger then a computer screen/monitor? (Since that can vary, I’ll assume you meant an average size of about 20″) Yes

6) Is it a household object? I’m gonna go with Yes (It’s not a chair)

7) Does it have legs? No

8) Is it partially ceramic? No

The two ropes hang two feet away from each other.

Btw I suggest ignoring the household object question, because it’s not so obviously a ‘yes’, so it might throw you off.

1) Is it manmade? Yes

2) Does it use electricity? No

3) Is it metal? It contains metal.

4) Is it colorful (3 or more colors)? It can be (usually not really)

5) is it bigger then a computer screen/monitor? (Since that can vary, I’ll assume you meant an average size of about 20″) Yes

6) Is it a household object? I’m gonna go with Yes (It’s not a chair)

Heilige – I need you! If this is really just based on CR trivia, I’m not gonna be much help (although I WILL be waving our beautiful green flag and screaming in the background, “Red Fish, Blue Fish, We’ll beat You Fish!”)

1) Is it manmade? Yes

2) Does it use electricity? No

Seriously, golfer and squeak? I’m assuming both of you are guys, as am I, but I don’t feel a need to rub it in the face of the opposite gender that I have an easier time finding dates because I was born with a Y chromosome; it’s actually a real issue. And I’m not saying there’s no room for levity in the matter, but I think your posts were in poor taste.

Do they have to all be trivia questions? I’m not good at trivia, but I’m good at logic games/puzzles.

cantgetit – wow, this sounds really similar to the argument of another “occupied” people in Israel…

You know it’s really not that hard to be a part of a functioning society; sometimes it’s not worth starting a war over less-important ideals.

As long as someone is the kind of person who won’t be distracted by other apps on the device while davening, why does it matter? Does technology bother you? Most electronic devices are easier to hold than siddurim.