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February 18, 2018 11:11 pm at 11:11 pm in reply to: @Chabad Shluchah Please Explain Why Davening To/Betten a Rebbe is Okay #1471591
this is the problem of people being taught these matter when they are deeper than we think. this could be the reason why they were against chasidim then and now .these inyanim were not revealed by chasidim they were around beforehand yet they were careful with them because god and his torah is very serious its our lives.please dont start qouting nefesh hachaim because there are numerous things mentioned in this chat that he is specifically worried about .February 12, 2018 8:20 pm at 8:20 pm in reply to: @Chabad Shluchah Please Explain Why Davening To/Betten a Rebbe is Okay #1467508
why is it called gezeira maybe takana a gezeira is a term by chazal back in the day, now we dont have that level of ruach kodesh even the gedolim previously didnt have this level so of course the lubavitcher rebbe ,unless it means like by a king and this also he wasnt a king he didnt have all the halachik dinim he wasnt the leader for all of klal yisrael,everyone had and still have their own leaders ayn melech blo am.February 1, 2018 8:16 pm at 8:16 pm in reply to: @Chabad Shluchah Please Explain Why Davening To/Betten a Rebbe is Okay #1461366
Where is the source in the Torah for hiskashrus,and where do we find it by Torah Jews before Chasidus
Moshe rabeinu said to 2 types of speeches one was mitoch groinoy and one wasn’t.one was called sichos moshe rabeinu ,the other was called maamar dmoshe.I think the possuk says he had a mateh (handkerchief)by his maamarim.Also any quote from the rebbe before he came rebbe isn’t mitoch gronoy it’s like an ordinary rabbi.After he came rebbe it’s the position that gave him nevuah in general and a level of mitoch gronoy!! Positions don’t give you madreigos in nevuah like that from no nevuah to mitoch gronoy ,anyway he wasnt a navi.
I read a Rashi today and there is a big rebbe who never learned this rashi so he will be jealous of me,There was a bochur in ponovezh who learned a shtikel in rav chaim,and there was a bochur in 770 who didn’t learn it so he is jealous of him. The rebbe was from the Dor after the chazon ish and since the Doros get weaker the chazon ish was bigger than the rebbe in learning so he is jealous of whatever he knew more,how ever you use the term jealous.There is no jealousy from the chazon ish to a little boy learning chasidus .
Raboisa keep protecting hashems Torah from this….what rav belsky call it.A little bit of light could push away alot of darkness(No it’s not a Chabad concept).The Tanya is like other Seforim ,it may have his own chidushim ,it may have things that are agreed about it may have things that are argued about, who knows if the gra and other agrees all that is written in it.Remember the alter rebbe wanted to convince the gadol hador.There were things that made the gra sign charamim to ,yet the lubavitchers know exactly mammash what went on ,the problem is ,it’s all from their side of the story sorry Rav solovotchiks story isnt our mesorah like all you chabadskes dream it is.
A pushatayid your going strong there,I’m still waiting from the chabadskes why isn’t daniel moshiach, Rav thought he was ?Also Daniel was from a totally different generation from Rav ,So let Yehuda or Dovid hamelech or Rav shach ?
Im sorry but it’s not called my “own pleitzes” and “arguing with Rav solovetchik” Chas vshalom it’s called seichel ,seichel hayashar,the bais harav wasn’t only Rav solovetchik noone else said this story not family members not talmidim it’s a good kashe to ask Rav solovetchik and certain details of the story just make it more shverr
IT Could be problematic lahalacha to hear and say such a story about the gra it’s a bizayon hatorah Careful Don’t have double standards
Rav solovetchik could also be a descendant from the gra but he is for sure a descendant of Rav Chaim volozhiner which where he was sourcing it from.THIS IS NOT THE MESORAH not in brisk not Telshe not in baranavitch ,not ponovezh not in slabodka not in mir NOT ANYWHERE.The gra was against chasidim and the alter rebbe understood if the gadol hador wasn’t happy it meant something big so he went to discuss it with him but they didn’t meet .The talmidim who knew the gra didn’t pass it down to us such a maaseh it’s not accepted sorry.
According to the Gemara in Sanhedrin why don’t we say that DANIEL is Moshiach today You see from the Gemara you can be from a totally different generation?
There are seven generations from the gra until moshiach the seventh generation comes out to be Rav shneur kotler even though he was niftar on gimmel tammuz my mashpia told me nothing changed lo haya histaklos.rabosai let us all do teshuva there are no misnagdim there are no chasidim only briskers moshe rabeinu will lead us once again
You are correct it’s moshiach Ben Dovid may he come speedily in our days.The gedolim guide us,not chabad chasidim on who’s qualified to be moshiach.Gedolim like the rebbes caliber
Moshe rabeinu halevi himself take us out of golus as moshiach ,I guess there is a reason why you call yourself daas yachid you gotta get out there you don’t know everything Moses knows everything look for example ohr hachaim vayechi 49 11.The gedolim didn’t consider the Lubavitcher to be moshiach Moshiach is seven generations from the gra ,moshe rabeinu redeem us!
There are seven generations from the gra until moshiach,our times are ikvesa dmishicha.There are no more chasidim no more misnagdim just do teshuva and become briskers and moshe rabeinu halevi himself will take us out of golus
This is halachachik qualifications either you fit it or you don’t the gedolim decide this not minhag .I love you all it’s not good for me continue I already made mistakes the rabeinu Yona and Rav Chaim volozhiner and Chofetz Chaim discuss the seriousness of being mvazeh a Talmud chacham gadol batOrah.The Lubavitcher rebbe was, not is (I was by his levaya) an unbelievable leader unique in his,our generation who brought thousands closer to hashem he was a Goan in all areas of Torah, he loved all the jewish people cared worried for them like a father creating generations of leaders it goes on but it would be better for to stop at least for now so I don’t make anymore mistakes this is my Chinuch from the yeshiva world.
Chas vshalom I didn’t mean what you thought I meant I was just trying to defend these rabbonim that these rabbonim had yearning for moshiach I was trying to protect their honor
These aren’t responses to my points of Emes ,we all don’t have opinions ,our physical leaders do.The rebbe was mocking rabbonim in an direct way about something they were correct about and saying they don’t yearn for moshiach Chas vshalom
There is no my opinion or my husbands opinion on this topic it’s something for our physical leaders to guide us about.The leaders say he doesn’t qualify according to halacha to be moshiach,we don’t accept wrong mistaken views it’s a serious halachik matter.We are nice accepting people but we are firm in what’s Emes and this isnt
There is no custom, minhag it’s total nonsense ,you are following a minhag shtus. Halacha dictates who is moshiach the person has to meet the qualifications like this chat went through before the rebbe didn’t meet it 100%.The previous rebbe also wasn’t qualified to be moshiach so why would the rebbe defend him? The rambam gave us Halachas ,the gemaras in Sanhedrin isn’t making the rebbe qualify to be moshiach in the rambam These rabbonim were right there is no gemara that says the rebbe qualifies to be moshiach. Mocking people in an indirect way by a frabrengen isn’t right ecspecially rabbonim who were right and a chutzpah to say that they aren’t yearning for moshiach
We all are waiting for moshiach to come ,he isn’t the Lubavitcher rebbe , rebbi akiva chacham gadol mchachmei Mishna thought someone was moshiach and he wasn’t,we only seek counsel on who is moshiach from gedolim not chasidim of the lubavitcher rebbe , gedolim like the rebbi Akivas of our time.Wether he hinted or he told clearly the gedolim didn’t and wouldnt accept him he wasn’t qualified to be in the running
The rebbe is not moshiach the Lubavitcher chasidim made a mistake they should all come back this is called seichel hayashar
the Lubavitcher rebbe isn’t moshiach ,he hinted ,he said clearly makes no difference Klal yisroel is run by live physical people, there is no concept of seven generations it’s wrong Sheker the gedolim of last generation were against the Lubavitcher rebbe on many topics he wasn’t accepted,just like you have a nasi ,melech,moshiach, the Torah gave us the 70 elders,the Sanhedrin not Lubavitcher chasidim not Elter Lubavitcher chasidim real gedolim people who were actually bigger than the rebbe in learning yiras shamayim who worried more for klal yisroel than he did he wasn’t the Neshama klaliyus he wasn’t accepted melech by sefardim or other chasidim or misnagdim only by his chasidim,Ain melech blo am.