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  • in reply to: Becoming More Wealthy, Becoming Less Frum #1486340
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    Here I was rather limited in job choices also. Many treif food places here, cannot work in any …NOT one food place here, as Jews are a bit limited in WHAT we can do for some parnosa. AS a FRUM YID, I feel very uncomfortable calling or answering phones on a mass scale. Many call center jobs here, customer service, etc, Many jobs here do not fit into my lifestyle, so I could not do them at all, this is in addition to not being able to work on Saturdays. Most places are closed, except for a little bit of retail, on Sundays. there is also no public transportation on Sundays here.
    The worst thing, is that I know I am not alone, as I have seen too many former frum yidden give in…but I will NOT….WE do NOT help our OWN to stay frum. Then….we wonder….why and how did they go off the derech? It is very simple….NO support from their own community. Too many jewish groups just send you to the government for their help. It is far from enough and outside of our world. I have seen it up close, luckily I have rejected it to remain who I am…..

    in reply to: Becoming More Wealthy, Becoming Less Frum #1485788
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    I for one, have decided to probably be coming back to Jewish civilization, at long last. I am abandoning everything here where I am and leaving town very early sunday morning. I am very destitute, I have NO place to go in NYC area. b BUT I do not care anymore. I would rather be homeless among MY PEOPLE than with goyim….I may be sleeping in Shomrei Shabbos soon….See everybody in NY soon….. My entire life will be in one suitcase. I have no other choice. I just cannot stand It here at all anymore, and there is nothing for me HERE except homelessness among goyim. I am paying a huge price. I have NO PLACE to go and even less of a place to be able to take anything I own…. I have tried everything I can think of to avoid this. I am getting a car ride to NYC area. I will need parnosa and a place to stay, and everything else also. I am giving up everything to return…. I will no longer be OUT OF TOWN YID anymore… I am lEAVING for NY VERY EARLY sunday morning and will not have internet access. I also do not have a working phone as my government minutes have run out for the month. I am quite destitute,,,,all for SHABBOS….I will NOT work ON Shabbos anytime, and I strongly uphold these principles. I remain a frum YID. It is never easy and our society has only made it harder for us….OUR OWN PEOPLE do not support themselves at all. I have found this out the very hard way. WHERE is our help? if it is there at all It is much too buried for me to find it…. AND…our help is coming with strings attached…..often it is ONLY a referral to goyim… In my case I have been sent to Local area Chabad which is ill equipped to handle anything, and to UNITED WAY and associated groups, which are all goyim here. What would I do with goyishe groups such as Salv army? their buildings are churches, but they call them community centers. Everything at these goyishe places is church related…everywhere…there is NO such thing as secular by them, they always throw in a bit about their goyishe environment….no matter how much it is THERE….A food pantry has a big sign on a wall about a Biblical verse from the NT… It SAYS it is nonsectarian….everybody is welcome, of course. In OUR facilities we do NOT dare to put OUR Biblical quotes on a wall. WE will be violating laws of church and state.
    Many years ago I had cause to visit a well known Jewish Childrens organization. I was shocked at what I saw there. The children had ONLY toys related to fairy tales and TV and the like, I thought that NONE of these toys, or books was appropriate for a Jewish child…..Books were all completely so called secular….There was NOT one Jewish toy or book anywhere, NOTHING from artscroll…. When I asked about this I was told that THEY could NOT have such things there….governmental regulations…..well they are very much in place despite governmental regulations in goyishe places.

    Things have of course never changed from the past at all, probably gotten a bit worse. And, the out of area JEW has it hurting him the MOST when he needs it the MOST support of all. Where I am for another day, I personally know a few Yidden who are now completely blended in with local society here, and have completely lost all ties with Yiddishkheit. ONCE FRUM, they have all but abandoned Yiddishkheit. All goyishe authorities are quite unable to understand US at all. WE MUST take much better care of our OWN FRUM people. Groups like Chabad and others, try to get Jews to return, aka KIRUV… How about trying much better to RETAIN our OWN FRUM people BEFORE a crisis ….I am risking everything to return….. much too many other people will just GIVE IN…..

    I have seen MANY goyim being helped at JEWISH organizations, but are WE very comfortable at goyishe organizations? I certainly feel very ill at ease there.

    Well, I hope that I never have to encounter any goyishe influences ever again. See you all back in FRUM JEWISH CIVILIZATION, where I belong.

    in reply to: Becoming More Wealthy, Becoming Less Frum #1485713
    out of town yid
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    I am facing this problem RIGHT NOW…. I have NOT been able to get any job where I am….as I will NOT work on Shabbos as every job requires here, in a town with very few Jews at all. I am facing HOMELESSNESS within a week, with no place to go to and very little money to go at all. I could have had a job long ago, if I was willing to work on my sabbath, or modify my sabbath somehow. AS a frium Yid I cannot do this at all. So, no work, no money just homelessness. AND….NO support from the frum community either, as NO JEWISH group handles where I am…. Local Chabad is very small and limited and of little help at all… Goyim will help, at the cost of YIDDISHKHEIT. Here I have had no pl,ace to turn to for help as a FRUM YID. I barely have the bus fare out of town, and the bus only allows ONE suitcase, I have to put my entire life into one suitcase….as a FRUM YID, I will need my talleisim, etc which take up much room, leaving little for much else. MUST I have to abandon everything else? How do I save anything? I need to be able to at least be able to put all into storage somewhere, and escape from here.

    Where to go to? WHERE is there a FRUM homeless shelter? where can I get KOSHER FOOD? HERE…I will be able to sleep on the floor of a church, and eat only treif food. And I will loose all I own.

    I have tried Jewish organizations all over the place, NONE will help. I must BE in their so called service area. But here is NOT serviced, except by goyim…..and NOBODY will help me to relocate.

    DO I have to loose everything because I am staying FRUM and desire to have a SHABBOS, and not a sabbath or a saturday? MY OWN FRUM community has ignored me so far, I have only a few short days to utter devastation……all because I want to do the correct thing. WHY as a FRUM YID, Do I have to suffer so?

    If I were a goy, or even a frei Yid I would NOT have these problems…I would have a job, NOT need expensive Kosher food, and be able to work any day goyim want me to be able to work….with NO restrictions. Should I have given up any of this to survive normally? Of course goyim think so….and the frum community in its ignorance of helping me is doing the same. Why can I NOT get any support from the frum community to be able to remain FRUM, and NOT loose all and my dignity?

    I will be homeless and or loose everything BEFORE NEXT Shabbos! I only want to be able to live as a frum Yid in a frum community, with something viable. Am I asking too much? OR do the goyim win? For my stand here, by NOT being willing to work on SHABBOS, I am a laughing stock in this town. To the goyim I MUST be flexible, and I am NOT willing to give in one inch! I need to be able to be home before Shabbos begins….and cannot work at all ANY saturday EVER, NO exceptions here….No employer here will allow me to leve early on a friday.

    Where is the frum community in my support? Why am I fighting this battle alone, and failing and falling into a deep abyss? I still have emmunah and bitachon.

    Basically I need a truck to take Me and my belongings elsewhere. away from here to a frum environment.I have no license and have no money to pay for storage or a truck. I need a new start at a new place…I am quite willing to go almost anywhere, preferably EAST of where I am now….. AND, I need THIS before NEXT Shabbos and my pending eviction!

    How would I, a FRUM YID even enter a church….or eat TREIF food?

    I am truly exhausted trying to get help. I have very little strength (KOACH) left anymore. DO I really have to give IN to the wishes of the goyim? Do I have to enter their clutches?

    All of this is to be able to STAY a FRUM YID….I am suffering greatly. And without immediate help, from who knows where, It will only be increasing. To be a frum YID here has been a true challenge.With little Kosher food available and often out of stock for extended periods of time, not to forego the very expensive prices I have had to pay for it…it is very easy to become treif, and not have this problem at all. It is very easy to work on saturdays as everybody else here does, and have a life….and not have to worry about homelessness. MUST I have to give all of this up? To the goyim this means NOTHING. BUT as a frum YID, this is my life! I am poorer than poor….and I will loose even what I have.

    Will someone please reserve a space on a park bench for me? I can probably eat leaves and grass. At least they are kosher and I can still be a frum yid. I may freeze and starve to death from this , but I will remain a frum yid.. Must I lower myself to this?

    I will have to give up everything to be able to stay a frum yid….. No organization will save me as such, they all provide excuses. And, where is there any oysher to help?

    out of town yid
    Participant

    That was my point exactly…..one MUST stay in Yeshiva, too many who have left for some reason fall backwards also. there also must be a strong support system in place. At home, there was nothing to reinforce what was in Yeshiva. Naturally, all went out the window. Of course , there is no guarantee that any Yeshiva graduate will not go off the derech. But…all MUST be given a chance, somehow…. If needed funding is not available then THAT is also a tragedy.

    All Jews need at least one authentic introductory experience with frumkheit so that their neshama will be awakened. Often for some, just experiencing one real shabbos is the key that starts everything. In a school like this something like Jewish outreach is needed. Maybe a spark will be lit. But, unfortunately for some who have a roaring fire, the fire still gets extinguished. We must try to keep all of these fires burning brightly, no matter what. Remember that all fires need FUEL to continue burning.

    Hopefully, lost souls will find that one small spark in the near future, just enough ignition to start them om the correct path.

    out of town yid
    Participant

    I grew up and attended public schools, in the NOW FRUM 5 towns over 50 years ago. I would walk right by a then fledgling Yeshiva each day twice a day for 3 years. Today, that Yeshiva is bursting at the seams and has expanded greatly, since that time.

    Around 1970, I was considered a radical in the public school as I wore a yamulka all day in school. The high school in my day was 97% Jewish. One year, the homeroom containing C students, had 9 kids named COHEN….only one of whom was actually Jewish! Most non Jews were Italian. Even in those days, we had a tragedy in the making as very few of my former classmates are today FRUM. Even then, few cared about Yiddishkheit. At my conservadox temple that I grew up in….in order to be bar mitzvahed, each student of the afternoon Talmud Torah had to promise the rabbi that they would attend a Hebrew High School for a year. Most quit long before then. I was one of only about 6 who actually graduated. AND….very few of my classmates from High school were ever enrolled there at all. I know of some of my fellow public school graduates today, But I am not in touch with any.NONE that I know of ever became Frum. From the Hebrew High School, long since closed, I am also not aware of any who kept their Yiddishkheit. The public school systems of the 5 towns produced many Jewish graduates who have been lost to us today. Today the area is overrun with Yeshivas and Frum Yiddishkheit.

    In my public school days, it was considered the IN THING to send your kids to the prestigious (free) pubic school system, few went to yeshivas. Many became professionals, but today lack Yiddishkheit. In those days, parents looking to move to an area looked speciffically for the success of the local Public schools in the area. A house was bought (then affordable), in a good area with good schools….nobody even had any priority to look for a good Yeshiva. And of course….the family joined the existing local temple or shul. who cared about its affiliation? The PUBLIC SCHOOL ruled above everything else…..Yiddishkheit was relegated to some back burner.

    Thank Hashem that things have severely changed for the better. I feel that I missed out on so much growing up…. All of my children are yeshiva graduates today. I would NEVER consider sending them to any public school. Even though I am FRUM today, I feel something missing about never myself having experienced Yeshiva education. I feel incomplete, even though I have full semicha. My own sister today is very far from Yiddishkheit, and she also had the same education I did, including that Hebrew high school. Anything she had, she completely lost in college….and she went to colleges with large percentages of Jews. Today she calls me an extremist as I am FRUM. She thinks that she is a fine Jew and goes to temple at best a few times a year. She had her husband cremated. Her kids grew up with no Yiddishkheit….but alongside the menorah was a large bush….. Her husbands mother was Jewish, but hated it, and influenced my sister greatly. His father was a goy. Remember….we grew up in the same house….and my sister and I went in completely different directions. I also have a cousin who is actually a graduate of a well known Queens Yeshiva. Today he like all of his brothers is far from Yiddishkheit and is toeva also. He attended Public school after Yeshiva, need I say more.

    NO yidden at all, even from totally nonobservant homes should be in any public school anywhere, it is bad for their neshamas. Even though I, who am quite FRUM, still feel the effects of the public school system more than 50 years later. Most people look at FRANCE as hostile to Jewish education as students have a day in the middle of the week of (Wednesday) and go to school on Saturday. I feel that this is a blessing as most Jewish kids DO NOT go to the public schools because of this.

    in reply to: Trief Recipe #1472431
    out of town yid
    Participant

    The best substitute for chazir I have been told is veal, not beef and certainly not chicken, although you can always try it. NEVER be afraid to take any recipe featuring non kosher ingredients and change them as needed to permissible kosher ones. The ingredients in ANY recipe are NEVER set in stone. WE as Yidden have always done this. If we did not ever do this we would all probably starve, as this has been done all of the time. If we could not do so, ALL kosher cookbooks would have to be banned. Most treif dishes I have encountered can be made KOSHER….either by substitution, or sometimes by just omitting a no good item. It is quite natural to do so, without any worry involved at all. NEVER be afraid to experiment, just keep it kosher, whether by ingredient or by method (such as in very few cookbooks at all, even some kosher ones, does it tell one to BROIL liver before doing anything else to it! ) .
    We are NOT copying the goyim……they probably stole it originally from us, anyway….and adopted it with their wishes! After all, their leaders controlled them for hundreds of years and always told them what to do……and also educated them as they wanted, teaching them only what they wanted them to learn, while often changing the truth. WE WERE and continue to be THE PEOPLE OF THE BOOK…..we are the really educated ones. They are getting rid of books now all of the time, replacing all with the internet. WE as FRUM YIDDEN cannot do so. How would I read anything on the internet on Shabbos or YUNTIFF? WE need the book or hard copy form!
    Also, I have seen much too much of a new disgusting practice…..In a shul, how many people are now….NOT using a siddur…..but davening from a device! Do not be lazy…..go get and use a siddur! WE do not wish to copy the goyim, but here is the best way to stop doing so…..use a SIDDUR! OK, I am at a place where there are no siddurim….then OK, use the device then……BUT NOT when siddurim ARE available! ONLY use the device as a supplement! GO FOR the REAL THING! This time, no substitutes usually allowed! HERE…..they truly affect the taste….not to mention the product!

    in reply to: Problem Being Unable to Consume Much Alcohol – And Can't Get Drunk #1471568
    out of town yid
    Participant

    I have a medical condition called gout. I cannot consume much alcohol at all. For me, it can lead to severe joint pain. I use CONCORD KAL for the seder.(3.5 % alcohol content.) It may have sulfites I just use low sugar grape juice otherwise year round, as I also must watch sugar. To all…..PLEASE be careful on Purim with the drinking. Do not injure yourself or others. Do NOT create any chilul Hashem! Purim is a joyous time, it should NOT have any sadness associated with it. PLEASE be responsible.

    in reply to: Homeschooling #1469646
    out of town yid
    Participant

    Lubavitch offers an online homeschool program, available in either English or Hebrew…. For some, it may be worthwhile exploring the offerings. It is especially good if one is not near a Jewish community. I know some who have used it, but I am not that familiar with it. the English program has US hours, the Hebrew program runs on Israeli time. It may be a viable option for some.

    in reply to: The Meshugas of Sports and Super Bowl #1466620
    out of town yid
    Participant

    Years ago, there was a popular shoe called a hush puppy. I was informed that it was made of pigskin. Many Frum kids wore them. It was not for sports.

    in reply to: Late Weddings: why do they get so late? #1466618
    out of town yid
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    A number of years ago, I was heavily involved with chasunah bands. I would be present at about a 100 a year. I was part of some chasunahs that for reasons unknown to us were delayed quite a bit. At some, there was a wait for some varied people to arrive. In the summer, a wait was common, as they were often waiting for past dark to start a ceremony. Here and there it was reported that a mistake was made on the kesubah, and it had to be rewritten. I was at some events where there were unfortunate medical emergencies that caused delays.

    At one crazy affair, all began about noon…..with a FIRST cocktail hour, then string quartets played for quite a while.Later, about 4 or 5 pm, there was a SECOND cocktail hour, the affair was now on time… .but… after a so called final late dance session, the band was asked to stay and play another two hours. I arrived at noon, left about 1 AM…..

    Back in the day, there was a very strict curfew in Lakewood….and the band was silent at 11 pm. The chasunah broke up shortly thereafter. If there was a mitzvah tantz, it was very short, and quiet.

    Some mitzvah tantzs went on and on…. I remember one that lasted about 4 or more hours. As only close family was there, no one cared. As a few of the band members had to stay, to play a bit here and there, I finally left….after it was already light outside.

    At a large affair once, all was on video and also separately recorded. There were many delays and it ran extremely late. There were multiple video and audio crews everywhere all night, calling the shots.

    But….one affair I was present at, there was a quite short night, all was over well before 10 pm. It was a Russian affair, with a very small crowd attending. There were perhaps 40 guests in attendance.

    Overall, most affairs were in the whole rather on time, maybe a few minutes off the schedule.

    in reply to: The Meshugas of Sports and Super Bowl #1465622
    out of town yid
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    I am in a town where sports are all there is….it is the controlling force of the town. The area surrounding the sport stadium is a complete ghost town when there are no events. when there is a game…..one cannot get a hotel room for a radius of over 40 miles in any direction….they have been long sold out. Traffic near the area, a few days ago a complete ghost town….is everywhere. Once empty restaurants…now have long waiting lists to get in….Bars, all over the place are full. Rowdiness rules. In a day or two…all will return to normal…..a ghost town. Each place of business is now charging premiums for anything. They come here from far and wide….to waste both time and Money. Such complete gashmius!

    Meanwhile….every day….most people are giving not so free advertising and marketing for this nonsense. The clothing they are wearing promotes the local teams, all under license….bringing in huge amounts of money….just to have the team name on the clothing….and in the team colors of course….over inflates the price of the garment. And its not just garments….one can buy anything at all….in the team colors of course….with the team name on it……I even have seen kitchen appliances with this advertising for sale everywhere, in almost every store in town. More gashmius!

    I have a neighbor….just a few houses away….He has this nonsense decorating his house and yard all year long. He is by far not alone. he cannot afford, of course to go to an event with the team he is adverting. They do not give him a red cent….but he has paid for all himself….to promote THEM.

    And….the day of an event….and many hours before its start….local media….radio and TV…covers all. EACH game on broadcast radio is on almost EVERY station in the area….there is almost nothing else to listen to…. only the team propaganda.

    Few residents of the actual town can afford to go to an event….and there are no tickets available…except from scalpers….event and often season was sold out long in advance. But they still support the team….giving all…..A few hours before event, on event day, local buses stop charging fares, all is free, both before and after the event (if buses are still running when game is over)…..Instead of bus sign saying where bus is going…..it now promotes team…..GO TEAM GO!….(all day on a game day)….

    OUTSIDE stadium, long before event, often in the freezing cold, people gather to party all over. they call this tailgating…..aka getting drunk and overeating. Most will n not be attending event…Anywhere else, this would be called LOITERING. This is serious huge business.

    The town pays LOW salaries…but these team members earn huge paychecks. If they do live in the area, they easily afford the most upscale homes. the rest of the town is a poverty pocket. The difference in the incomes is quite evident. The team members have a strong union and a guaranteed salary amount minimum. The minimum they can be paid, is far more than almost anybody in town earns. Most players are easily millionaires. Everybody else is struggling to earn a living.

    BUT….we WORSHIP them all! A new religion, the religion of sport. Completely false, complete avodah Zorrah.

    Rabbi Miller warned us all years ago….stay away! Complete and udder gashmius. No sense or purpose, just a war environment. All means nothing. FRUM YIDDEN should avoid all at any cost.

    AND….what is a SUPER BOWL….only a deeper glorification , fortunately this hyper party will end the nonsense for a few months….until the frenzy starts up again…..AND…if YOUR team is not in the SUPER BOWL…..the party is over….unless you wish to change your belief in another team, be it only temporary….until next season….. Only one false diety is allowed at a ti me to be so fully worshiped. AS a season progresses , each weak diety looses its power to a stronger one, until only one reigns supreme. When the new supreme diety is crowned, the party is over……until next time…..when all of the chaos starts up again…. MORE GASHMIUS!

    in reply to: Struggling with Cholov Yisrael.. #1460931
    out of town yid
    Participant

    So that we all know WHERE cholov Yisroel is coming from….where are the products being processed and packaged? WE SHOULD be able to go directly to where products come from, so that if NOT available in OUR area, we might be able to go to the source to obtain the products directly. Where are the farms and the processing facilities? Some farms nay be in certain locations in upstate NY, or in some place in another state producing dairy products such as Wisconsin or California. No local stores in these areas may carry anything, but we should have some sort of directory of where to go to get product direct from processing or production facility…..and when to go, as may not be available every day. I wish that the Kashrus agencies would publicize this information. WHERE are products from various companies actually being packaged? We should be able to go there and directly get products. Products may be processed and packaged somewhere in upstate NY, or another area….but not being SOLD nearby, is a big problem for the few Cholov Yisroel customers who might live somewhere near that area. They may have to travel far away to get their products, yet the products are actually produced near them.The problem is that no local store will get the product. In Wisconsin, for example, much cheese may be produced or packaged there, but where. It might be somewhat near somebody who might use that product, but the nearest stores where it might be available might be hundreds of miles away.
    Cholov Yisroel information should be much more available. ONE company that I know of, makes a few cheeses under STAR K is on the internet and will ship the cheese to you. the varied selection is mostly cholov Yisroel. The location is probably reasonable driving distance from Milwaukee, Postville, or Minnesota. The company is called HARMONY CHEESE. But products are not currently available in their own local cheese store. BUT you can place an order for pick up. Cheese is not sliced but is in one or 5 lb blocks or larger. This cheese is often sold wholesale to stores. Invest in a good cheese cutter! Check the website carefully for the kosher cheeses as most of their products are not kosher. A few cheeses may also be kosher for Pesach. I have had a few of their products. They were shipped to me. They are located in central rural Wisconsin, nowhere near any established Jewish community I am aware of at this time. I would hope that other companies would also be able and willing to ship their products directly to you. I understand that SHTARK cheeses may also be produced in Wisconsin, but of course would not be sold in local stores in the area….and there are probably very few Yidden around in Wisconsin anyway. I have no idea of availability of many of these items in other areas. Our cholov Yisroel dairy product companies are all producing and packaging their products in remote areas, probably not anywhere near where MOST Yidden live. BUT, it would be nice to sometimes be able to do a pickup rather than have to travel far to a store to obtain them. There are, surprisingly Yidden in some remote areas far from established Jewish communities. Not many, only a few, here and there. AND…if one was travelling in one of these areas……

    And…milk….In the EAST we have the familiar Golden Flow, and other brands in NY area….Pride of the Farm in NJ and Baltimore, etc. I understand that in the midwest, probably somewhere in Wisconsin there is a company with a name something like Lammer. I saw this company when I was in a store in Chicago.. I am not aware of the hashgacha. We should know the actual location of their bottling facilities and be able to pick up milk directly from all of these places. AS milk must be available fast, and is not able to be transported very long distances, most of these companies are quite regional.

    in reply to: Chabad Shlichus – Risk of Sacrificing Own Family’s Ruchniyos? #1460806
    out of town yid
    Participant

    A while ago, I attempted to try to buy a white shirt, and a decent pair of black dress pants here where I am…I went to quite a few stores, nothing to be found. I was told that nobody uses such clothes anymore, especially here. I am too formal in dress. And what they did have I would not be caught in at all. I was told that there was no market for what I wanted to buy. Only for the trash they were selling.

    in reply to: Applying for a job that’s not you #1460270
    out of town yid
    Participant

    I did try for quite a while to job search long distance. First, I had left my location on resume, got very little interest at all.I was NOT in area, so why bother. After I removed location from my resume, I started to get responses, but few wanted to do an interview long distance and I do not have the funds to travel, especially back and forth. When I was getting unemployment here is was very little, certainly not enough to be able to travel. But, on so called local advise here, I stopped applying for jobs i n NY area, and concentrated on where I was. The unemployment authorities had objected to my out of area searching for jobs. They would monitor my searches closely, and challenged quite a few out of town job searches and applications. I was audited several times during my unemployment and had to prove everything or I would have benefits taken away. Now..I have fully decided to give up HERE. I am trying to get back to ny area. I HAVE been listening to peoples advise . Ironically….I got a phone call, just a short time ago, from a former coworker here who had relocated a while ago…..quite suddenly. He told me that HE had encountered the exact same bias I have found here. Had I been aware of this before…I also would have left here….long ago….without wasting my time here. People here have encouraged me to stay….but now I am ignoring them. I have NO other choice. Originally I had thought that I was the only one with this Shabbos bias, now I know I was not alone. And….now I have it confirmed that the bias is REAL.

    in reply to: Chabad Shlichus – Risk of Sacrificing Own Family’s Ruchniyos? #1460257
    out of town yid
    Participant

    As I have lived out in hick towns for a few years, I have been able to observe quite a number of Chabad shlaich families, in action. I have seen both well adjusted families, with well adjusted children, and complete disasters. It all depends on the parents being able to adjust their children to a non Jewish environment, and also themselves. Lubavitch has a strong support system in place, with online schooling for the children. Although intended for shluchim children, it is open to all. There are two different programs at different hours of operation. One in ENGLISH, geared to the US….and one in Hebrew, geared to Israelis, on Israel time. I have come across Israeli children, who do not know much English, but are located in the US, rising at night, to study on Israeli time! They must sleep during the day!
    Nevertheless, it might be easier for CHABAD outside of an established Jewish community as there have been programs started to help them, at their location. Some of these programs can and should be used by Chabad outsiders also, especially in rather remote areas. But for adults, maintaining ruchniyos is more difficult. We can keep our children a bit sheltered from outside gashmiyos, but we as adults must face the otherwise rather corrupt non Jewish gashmiyos world often on a daily basis, while still guarding our own ruchniyos in an otherwise hostile setting. The beginnings of the colder seasons in much of the US, can be a real challenge as colors change all over. When all becomes orange and black, there is turmoil everywhere. The entire scene is very much anti Jewish in nature. Sometimes I have a sigh of relief when red and green start replacing those colors. But no for long…as red and green are not silent, and one can hear such all over…in addition to seeing such everywhere. And HERE…I can still in now February, find lights all over, months after the actual seasonal dates. At least the stuff is long gone from stores. I try my best to avoid all stores in gashmiyosville during that time of complete gashmiyos. It is not easy as one must buy as much as they will need before that time sets in. A plain season where there is little or nothing around, is getting very rare. Now there are red, once again all over, in the form of red and pink hearts…..more gashmiyos THEY have one special day a year…..we have a special night period each week, EISHES CHAYIL. AND….we do not make such a fuss over it!
    There is much gashmiyos all over.We are the only ones who merit ruchniyos. Without a Jewish atmosphere to provide ruchniyos, gashmiyos will reign supreme…as that is ALL goyim j]have. Goyim have no clue at all of what they are lacking, but we as FRUM YIDDEN cannot let their influences spoil us in any way.

    We, as FRUM YIDDEN, must stick together. We need to keep together as a whole. Look at our concept of a minyan. A community, in order to daven correctly, needs a minyan on shul. Otherwise, one may withdraw to ones home, alone. I was once here in a group of men in a shul…..19 men….but no minyan….as 10 or more did not qualify for the minyan. Of course I was a bit embarrassed to be there. WE just breezed through davenning as there was so much we could not do. Of course the Torah sat in the ARON untouched that morning. It was a relief that the unaccountables, had no idea of what we were actually doing and what the group was missing. It was all very strange. But as they were either complete non JEWS or people who could not be included in a minyan for other reasons, they still had no clues to what was missing, nor did they care. I for one was a bit devastated at the whole episode. Nineteen men…..normally much more than needed for a minyan….and still no minyan! No opportunity to read the Torah….a loss for Ruchniyos….and a victory for gashmiyos. But, we as FRUN YIDDEN have strict rules to guide us, halacha, and it must be upheld. No matter the actual numbers of outsiders, true Jews are ONLY a community if there is a minyan or more present. And that community is the only way we are able to have ruchniyos.
    We are all at risk away from our own people. Chabad is only strong TOGETHER. If they are in close contact with others, they are stronger. OTHER Jews MUST also be connected to other JEWS. A Jew alone, is very weak and little challenge for the satan. the satan has a much harder time with a minyan or more. The Torah, and all it stands for, is RUCHNIYOS….BUT, gashmiyos and its kind is the satan. BEWARE!

    in reply to: Applying for a job that’s not you #1460231
    out of town yid
    Participant

    I have now run out of options here. I have a court date next week for eviction, in a hick town. Here, in order to survive, I would have to work on SHABBOS without any doubt. How these companies, in a whole tnts have forced them into much smaller quarters, with my wife already sleeping on a sfa due to lack of space.own can get away with this form of discrimination is far beyond me. But they do. When evicted I will loose everything I own. I am trying to get back to NY metro area, but it has not been easy at all. I will most likely be giving up all of my sefforim, etc to goyim who will just trash all as worthless. WHAT a sorry waste! I simply may not be able to rescue anything, but a very limited amount of anything. Shabbos SHOULD be a BRACHA….but for me, HERE it has been a complete failure. I really do hope that Hashem is watching carefully and will replace my huge losses. I have family in Brooklyn, but recently my wife has had to move to a much smaller place where she is vastly overcrowded already. She sleeps on a sofa. I will just have to find room on the floor. I will have no room for my clothes so I will live out of a suitcase. The place is already much too small for the people there now, but I will have to squeeze in somehow. My wife was compelled to move as her past landlord wanted her old place back.She had quite a bit of trouble finding a new place as rents are sky high in Brooklyn. She had to settle on this place, even though there was not enough room. She also had to discard must of her belongings as there was no room for them in her new place. .My adult daughters, who are unmarried, are still living at home. cannot afford to move out. They also trimmed down considerably. They are quite overcrowded in the bedrooms. My own stuff, left there, was shipped to me with a considerable expense. NOW my stuff will most probably be going also. I will have less than them….basically just what would fit in one suitcase is all I would have left. The bedrooms are tiny, as are the living room and also the kitchen, only the RENT is big. In moving, she is paying more for a much smaller place. The kitchen only holds a table for two. The living room is very small I have been told. This is what I will be reduced to. At best, I will be able to save one set of weekday clothes and a set of Shabbos clothes. And the two small closets are already packed for those now in the apartment. As my wife works in one place and my kids in another direction, moving is not much of an option…if we could afford it. And we as parents are no longer young. The apartment is already on the very fringes of the Jewish community, with little nearby. I would love to be able to move elsewhere, but my wife has a license for her job only good for NY. She is also trying to stay where she is so she can get a pension in a few years. AND….our kids are also struggling. I myself…was hoping to be able to relocate to another area, such as LAKEWOOD, or upstate ny, , with my wife joining me at a later time, when she could. Now, we all will be trapped in much too expensive Brooklyn. Our life savings are completely used up.

    in reply to: Chabad Shlichus – Risk of Sacrificing Own Family’s Ruchniyos? #1458811
    out of town yid
    Participant

    I am in a non Jewish hick town at this time. here everything is very anti Jewish. If I want a job…I MUST be willing and able to work on Saturday, aka SHABBOS, for me, NO exceptions. I will NOT give in to temptation and therefore remain out of work and facing very probable homelessness here in a town with no Jewish support. Local Chabad shliach has been of no help. All here is complete gashmiyos. If and WHEN evicted to the street, I will loose all ruchniyos. Because I am so stubborn, I have no place to turn to for any help here. I steadfastly will not be available to work on FRIDAY afternoon or on Saturday. Ignorant goyim…have told me to just change my sabbath to a day later. then I can work, avoid pending homelessness, and still have a sabbath. To them, if I do not do so…I am committing suicide. Due to my complete stubbornness in not working on Shabbos i already have a court date very shortly, with no support, to be evicted to the street.Gashmiyos, already quite in control here will virtually eliminate all ruchniyos then. In addition….obtaining any kosher food here is both scarce and very over expensive. i have had to do without constantly, even basic items. There is very severe risk in such a place for ones neshama and ruchniyos. For me it appears that without immediate outside help, that gashmiyos will reign supreme. We are all at high risk in such an environment, JEWS, especially FRUM YIDDEN, need support to be strong in riuchniyos, as gashmiyos is present all over. We cannot forsake our own people, FRUM YIDDEN, who are very isolated in a gashmiyos environment. The Chabad Shliach CANNOT do it alone, he needs strong support from the entire Chabad community. And, of course, HIS ruchniyos must be like iron. It is a true sacrifice to live outside of any established FRUM community. I have personally known much too many formerly FRUM people who, after moving to a non Jewish area, have given into gashmiyos, and developed severe problems with ruchniyos. I am desperately trying NOT to succumb to this at all, ever. It is much too easy to do so. And, all that is for adults…..for children it is even easier to falter. All FRUM YIDDEN MUST have a strong support system and be united, apart they are naturally weak. I know that I have gotten weaker here, I only can daven alone, there is no shul here. There is no group to be part of….only goyim. Weeks can go by and I do not meet even another fellow Yid. A Frum Yid cannot be alone, we all need each other to help with the strength of ruchniyos, as gashmiyos is all around us. A huge challenge for Chabad is that they can be virtually alone, the adults have a hard time…but it us much more difficult for children. So, NOT only is it a problem for CHABAD, it is a huge problem and a huge sacrifice for ANY of us. As there is a CRISIS in NYC with the price of housing, too many FRUM Yidden are trying to flee….where will they go….will some wind up like me, in a totally Jewish desert? It is and has been a big problem in our community which only seems to be escalating. Chabad has paved the way in some areas, but they are often unprepared to take in FRUM outsiders.ANYONE….by moving away from an established FRUM community, is at very severe risk. Chabad must be linked together to survive, once the Rebbe was in touch with each shliach. Today they have the shliach office, and often more than one shliach is sent to a given place. Unless a shliach has been able to establish a school for his kids in his area at their level, they may still have to send their =children elsewhere for school. Once again, a sacrifice, for both parent and child. Chabad has developed a homeschool network that helps both shluchim and others. This has greatly improved and strengthened ruchniyos. But… living away from ones own people will still be quite a sacrifice and take quite a toll on ANYONE….no matter how strong they appear to be. I personally have suffered a great deal here and have had to sacrifice much. I was unable, for example to even get Chanukah candles, so I used tealights instead. Not the real thing….but all I had. Of course Chanukah oil is not here. Another sacrifice. YES, I could today ORDER such things on the internet, BUT I could not afford to. HERE, I have all too much experiences in doing without. A true sacrifice. Gashmiyos 1, Ruchniyos 0. WE NEED STRONG FRUM COMMUNITIES! With no one just having to look in….Ruchniyos cannot be winning!As a popular saying from long ago went…..UNITED WE STAND…..DIVIDED WE FALL……. The FrUM community needs to stick together.
    Without support….we will have many of the conditions faced with all too many of our people when they were immigrants, newly arrived to these shores. The pressure was too great on most…and they had to survive in an alien land. That meant working on Shabbos for most, as too many Jews demanded of their employees. It was very hard then to have ruchniyos, and gashmiyos ruled. Ultimately we lost too many Yidden to gashmiyos. We cannot let that happen again. WE, as FRUM Yidden MUST strengthen our ruchniyos over the gashmiyos. NOT just ONE of us but ALL< of us, and together, not apart. ONLY Torah true environments will keep us strong and together. EACH new and isolated community MUST have outside continuous support to survive the Ruchniyos over the gashmiyos. AND….any leaders, especially the organizers, kiruv or Chabad, cannot do it alone. It is not only a sacrifice for them…but for the established FRUM community as well. A person needs their family and its support system to remain strong. And that family needs ruchniyos to keep strong as gasmiyos weakens everything. Once again a true sacrifice. Torah is our guide, without a strong Torah true community we are all in trouble. Until such can reasonably be established, WE ARE ALL AT SEVERE RISK. And, gashmiyos is the winner until then. RUCHNIYOS IS TORAH! Help us all….we all need it in this increasingly
    .gashmiyos environment we all live in!

    With the odds stacked completely against me here, I have so far endured. Without outside help, I am in deeper trouble than I can even imagine here. I know I am weakening. FOR ME….Shabbos is the strengthening glue factor If I were to loose or even change it in some minor way, all would be lost. HERE, in GASHMIYOUSVILLE, the SATAN is well at work. ONLY in RUCHNIYOUSVILLE is he defeated, and cannot enter our lives. WE all must be in RUCHNIYOUSVILLE to survive! Trying to survive ALONE in a goyishe gasnhmiyous Torah lacking community puts us all….including our families in grave danger. The faster such can be FIXED the better! WE are all dependent on it for our true survival. Without it, we are very much like the goyim and will not have the guidance to keep us the way we are and NOT follow their ways. One is usually very influenced by their environment.

    in reply to: Problem to Look at X-Mas Lights? #1428234
    out of town yid
    Participant

    They, the lights are everywhere where I am. First, since sometime in AUGUST, orange and black were everywhere. Around Rosh Hashanah, red and green started, in addition. After a while the orange and black started to be phased out,( a few days or more after their purpose was done), and red and green increased all over. Red and green and their associated lights continue here for quite a while. Last year I was still seeing a few displays as late as Purim! I personally call the lights GOYIM LIGHTS. (this year I actually saw orange lights for a time, before they may have been changed to red and green).
    December 25 was a Roman holiday to observe the birthday of their avodah zarah sun g-d. (also was part of many other cultures such as Norse legends) The most common theory is that the one whom they revere, was born sometime in the Spring, probably around Pesach. How did we get such a change in dates? Very simple. The original calendar in use by the Romans at that time, had only 300 days, of which the Roman aristocracy celebrated about 270 of them as holidays. Regular people, plebians as they were called, worked on these days. Around the time of Julius and Augustus Caesar, the calendar had 60 days added to it as an adjustment to better equate it with the seasons. The two new added months were called JULY and AUGUST, after these two. In Latin….Sept is 7, Oct is 8, Nov is 9 and lastly, Dec is 10, reflecting the original calendar in Roman times. Now….if a year lasts only 300 days…..imagine what would happen…..that is exactly WHAT DID happen in the earlier days…..resulting in complete confusion as to dates. That is why the goyim adopted their own official religious calendars which were much more standardized and accurate. Religious goyim were usually the most learned people. So, they were much aware of what was realty. But, It still took quite a long time to fully adjust a solar based calendar to 365 days. The Romans were somewhat closer when they added the two extra months, increasing the year to 360 days, they were still sort….by 5 or so days. Only us Yidden, had an accurate calendar, and we could NOT care less about the actual birthday of the one whom the goyim look up to.

    in reply to: Applying for a job that’s not you #1392809
    out of town yid
    Participant

    I would love to be able to relocate to Lakewood Ir Hakodesh…if only I could… As I stated above already, I totally lack the resources to go anywhere as I am almost completely destitute. Where can I at least get some sort of a loan to enable me to relocate? I would also need to be able to rent some place and have no funds to do so. I also need some sort of parnosa. How does one apply for a position long distance? My resume has my local address here where I currently am, I do not have a local Lakewood address. When I apply from here, to a job in local NYC area, I am ignored. I understand that in order to get a job somewhere, one must have a local address, but in order to get a local address, one needs a job. Is there any local Lakewood organization that could and would help me to relocate? Without outside aid, I am stuck here. Does anyone know where to turn for such help? Or, once again, do I have to take a position here, unsuitable of course, which would require me to have to work on Shabbos. That is at present my only outlet. One I really hope to be able to avoid.

    in reply to: Applying for a job that’s not you #1392712
    out of town yid
    Participant

    I am currently living in a small city where there are only very low level jobs which almost always require work on Shabbos as there are few if any FRUM Yidden here. Salaries here are very low, and are supplemented by forced overtime on Shabbos, which to locals (goyim) is an ordinary workday. I am in management, but cannot find a local job in such. I do not have the resources to be able to relocate AND my unemployment is almost over. When it is, I would be forced to go to a homeless shelter as I would have no income, and would be evicted for not paying rent. Needless to say, these shelters are in church related facilities, also Kosher food is totally unavailable here (except my own kitchen). What do I do…I am perplexed as I have no idea. I cannot work on Shabbos, but on the other hand, how would I survive as homeless with no available food. There is no Jewish community here to turn to for help. I only have a short time left until I will be out on the street here. I will loose all of my belongings here to the goyim, including sefforim. I know that I should relocate, but how, as I require assistance to do so. I feel that there is no future for me here as a frum Yid. I am aware of a few formerly frum Jews in the area who have dropped Yiddishkheit here, that is how they survive. Must I join them also? I hope not! Does anyone know of any help I can get from the Frum community to relocate to a much more suitable environment, before all is lost? I need help now! Do I have to apply for and take an unsuitable job in order to survive? Is it pekuach nefesh?

    in reply to: Struggling with Cholov Yisrael.. #1390949
    out of town yid
    Participant

    local chabad shul is very weak, Rabbi does get milk from a dairy in vicinity….but charges $7.00 a gallon, not available in smaller. No other cy products available there. He goes there, about 50 or more miles each way or more, once a week. A gallon is too much for me and I also cannot afford it….I use almond milk instead. (parve) A store nearby (300 miles away) has some cholov Yisroel available ($6.59 for J & J 8 oz cream cheese, if even in stock. A package of muenster cheese 6 oz is about $7.00) Both I cannot even begin to afford. I do not have a car, so I depend on someone to get these and other thins for me…if I can find anyone going there. I use Toffuti products when available locally instead….also not cheap at $4.29 a package or more. Harmony cheese has cholov yisroel star k available, see web site, carefully, kosher is a bit hidden there.. They will ship to you, but have a minimum order, shipping is expensive, cheese comes in blocks, not sliced. Sometimes they may have one pounders available, but usually 5 pound blocks or more needs to be ordered. Has a few varieties available. One need a good cheese slicer. I would love to move to a much more viable Jewish community but I lack needed resources to do so, does anyone have any ideas about this….how and where to relocate?

    in reply to: Struggling with Cholov Yisrael.. #1389907
    out of town yid
    Participant

    I am stuck in a small city in the Midwest, without a Jewish community. All Kosher food here is tough to get and very expensive , if I can get it at all. Cholov Yisroel is but a dream here, although the local Walmart DOES have one item, a gluten free wafer from Israel. So, I have had to do away with no dairy products at all, except the possible wafers, I used them as my DAIRY on Shavuous! Needless to say, my diet here is extremely limited.

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