ZeesKite

Na, MODs,- please erase that last sentence. Too strong.

I agree wholeheartedly.

Someone who cannot discern the type of music he is mired in, means that their senses too have been dulled. It take a lot of chipping away at the inner pintele Yid not the vomit at that disgusting work. When one has goyeshe noise constantly assaulting his neshamah then he’s is able to smirk and say “If you have no more important things .. you need to rethink your priorities.

Yes, to Yiddishe Yidden it is important. As important as it was for the Rabbonim to voice their disapproval. It’s so sad to watch how this individual’s junk has made it into the “normal” simcha. How in the middle of a dance they start some kind of cacophonous – trance – dance, disgusting movements, horrible tunes (chant). They leave the choson, kallah, stand next to the band with the shameless (goyeshe) singer, all join for a revolting “twist”. What a downward spiral of the real stuff. What a way to start a new life?!?

No, when Yuval was inventing instruments, he could not have imagined this.

plonis3141: I believe that is so true. Actually I heard a GREAT rebbe, a phenomenal mechanech say the exact same thing.

btw, about potching, Rabbi Miller was entirely for it. Of course it must be in moderation, without anger. But for a kid to observe the whole world falling to his knees, everyone afraid of approaching him, he says it’s no wonder they grow up to be who they are. No wonder kids bring guns and shoot at their teachers and classmates, they weren’t trained otherwise, they are emboldened by the world’s power afforded them. These are his words. ???? ???? ???? ??? is for real, not some pshat or drush invented by today’s “enlightened” people, smarter the ????? ??? ????.

Yes, it is a holy place. I don’t think anyone disagrees with that. If someone is able to live a holy, fulfilling, happy life there, kol hakovod, ashrecha. But sometimes their government gets in the way (to put it mildly) of Shmiras Torah uMitzvhos. If someone is able overcome these issues, he should definitely should live there.

One must be able to differentiate between Eretz Yisroel and ‘Israel’.

Another sign of the Propoganda Mission: they keep saying the same things, over and over again.

FYI, AviK, yes – your ‘Medina’ is established. Nothing to do with our Mashiach. He doesn’t need your bareheaded interference. Doesn’t need your kidnapping of so many Taimanim. Or the systematic attempt to wean the youth from HaShem’s Torah way. He doesn’t even need the ‘one cow in Palestine..’. No, to him European Jewery, even those unable to work for the ‘medina’, is valuable. So maybe these Rabbis you keep trumpeting thought so, K’lal Yisroel, following its’ leaders think otherwise. OK?

And mind you, participating is NOT acceptance. And you know it. It’s just that you’ve been indoctrinated, you’ve been preprogrammed and nothing of sense will stop you.

Participating means one has to own up the the situation. There is a medina now. So we gotta play it’s games. No, we wouldn’t have attended the ‘asifa’ erev shabbos minutes to shkia. (or maybe it was afterwards)

.. and sometimes they bring in their “deyos”. They think the little they’ve learned, heard is authoritative. Some have a need to make a mark..

Avi K

You seem to be possessed with your two “Rav Kook and the Imrei Emet”, over and over again. “Erev Rav”, too. etc. I think you’re just doing it to call me out.

OK So here I am. Together with THE VAST MAJORITY of K’lal Yisroel and it’s leaders. Real ones. OK?

I for one won’t take that your “atchalta dgeula” or whatever is accomplished though a bunch of bareheaded, as an afterthought (first choice was somewhere else). OK? Sure, they were makpid to do it (the chalot) bein hashmashot because ?????? ???? ???? ?????? ????. Sure, with the argeement of “all” of your Rabbis. Conscription of females in the army – at the behest of “All” the gedolim. Abortions, autopsies etc. Sure. All litveshe Gedolim and Chasidishe Rebbes.

Please.

Do a little honest homework. A bit of history will suffice. Honest history. Not the propaganda they inoculate. (Rav Weissmandel – Min Hametzar, Rav Miller to name a few, and I haven’t yet mentioned the Satmar Rav)

They’re following David HaMelech. When his clothing got in the way, he did away with it. Only difference is he did it l’chvod Shamayim, for HaShem’s honor. Why these people do it? Maybe they’re trying to concentrate on a hard piece of rashba or k’tzos, they need all the ventilation they can get.

As I think I mentioned on the previous one, there are sites you could subscribe to, that deal with your situation, anonymously.

I don’t know.

Maybe one of two reasons. Either it’s more dignified. Or more tzniusdig.

We all feel for you. As on the other thread, about four month ago. My advice – stay connected to a Rav, kehillah. Or initiate connections. Rabbi Miller ??”? says in his works, it is one of the utmost important things in marriage.

I hate having the last word, so I’ll write something nasty and the Mods would res{No, we’re not falling for it. We’re not editing this time.}

I think a hat is made just to make a person look dignified. (I think there’s a brocha instituted for this) So naturally it should fit the bill. To wear one in an undignified manner defeats its whole purpose.

As to what looks dignified, that is dependent on every community.

OOOOOOO!!!!!!!!

<Blush> * (9/10)

GOSH!! Thanks. Tons!!!

But I don’t think so. As most will agree, {Silly} {Immature} {Carefree} {Loud} {Boisterous}. I’ve even been labeled worse.

But what’s you’re point. I’ll be back even without those compliments. (I’m STUCK here)

I know my comments were not Zees. Sometimes truth hurts. Yiddishkeit it not about anyone walking in and wreaking havoc on centuries of minhagim at random. That’s all I’m writing. One must follow a mesorah, not become an “oiber chacham” and believe himself above (or at the level) of the previous giants.

If there’s an accepted mesorah one’s following – by all means. But to take matter’s into one’s own hand, and act upon one’s diminutive comprehension – that is (as the mishna says) ???? ??? ??? ???.

So it’s more like a child who knows how his little toy works, poking his head into a complicated machine and discarding “meaningless” wires, switches, motors. “I’m an experienced mechanic”, he says. He’s a “daya zoger”. He “really knows”. He becomes the machria.

BaalHabooze:

I didn’t see your post

I also saw it and left it w/o commenting

I forgot, I’m too busy to post

I’m just wondering, are my posts from the half that you do open?

If that is how you’d like to phrase it, by all means. I just didn’t like the tone used (4 times) to downplay the hilchos bdikas tolaim – I think there’s a portion of shulchan aruch on that. If you didn’t intend to, then I beg your pardon.

Now why it’s “very low .. of importance”, I think that being that not everyone is in position of power, know-how, courage, not everyone is suited for that job. That’s a job for people of stature – sanhedrin are commanded to root out and rid out evil doers, not anyone and everyone can take the law into one’s own hands.

However EVERYONE is commanded not to eat forbidden foods.

And as you can see, I haven’t made it to the little leagues yet.

Are you going to revive every old NK and Zionist thread to post this newest? (you’ll be at it for a long time)