By Rabbi Yair Hoffman for 5tjt.com
This year, Rav Chaim zatzal’s eldest son, Reb Shaya Kanievsky shlita, will be making the Siyum on Shas at the Lederman Shul in lieu of his father zatzal.
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Since there will be numerous siyumim this Friday, it is worthwhile to see what Maran Rav Chaim zatzal said about Siyumim, in general.
- Can a siyum be made – just on Gemorah – without Rashi?
If he understands what he learned it is a siyum. Abaya himself who (Shabbos 119a) said, regarding a siyum that he would make a “Yom Tov celebration for someone who makes a siyum” learned without Rashi.
- If a person just says over the shakal v’tarya of the Gemorah, but does so very precisely – is this enough for a siyum?
Not for Erev Pesach (and presumably not for the 9 days)
- If a child makes a siyum is it effective?
Why not? This is a complete siyum! – Even for the Nine Days!
- If a person skipped a few lines is it still effective for a Siyum?
It is not like a sefer Torah. As long as one did not skip an entire Sugya.
- What about Meseches Sanhedrin, where the censor [in Europe] took out entire sections?
Ideally, he should learn the section that were censored. This is what I do. But bdieved, we can assume that since that is the form in which [mishamayim] it worked out that way, it would be okay.
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6 Responses
Do I need a Minyan to make a siyum erev Pesach?
Is mesechta Hurios enough to make a siyum on erev pesach?
Can a mesechta of mishnayos be enough for a siyum erev pesach?
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No
Yes
Yes (b’shas hadchak)
Minyan not needed for a siyum, just Kaddish isn’t said w\o minyan
Huriyos is a full mesechta and valid for a siyum
Siyum on Mishnayos has to be on a full Seder
R Asher Weiss rules that the long and difficult masechtos of mishnayos, such as Kelim, Aholos, and Negaim, count as full masectos and you can make a siyum on them.
I am the biggest chosid of Maran z”l, as much as anyone. However, you do not have to believe everything you read.
1. Hard to believe.
Abayye’s learning, and presumably the Tzurva Merabbanan he was speaking of, of course included all the deepness of the future peirush Rashi and the Roishonin etc…
4. Hard to believe.
Perhaps not understanding fully (arois) a few lines here or there is OK. (Maran Harav Shach z”l said that this is normal, even adding up to 2 blatt a mesechta. Rav Shach z”l said it is a siyum, and you should go vaiter further, you will know it next time.) But skipping lines completely? Maybe the meaning here was not really understanding, but not skipping the reading.
Millhouse:
Since there is no Gemara on those, that is the Mesechta. I would think on any such Mesechta, even “easier.”