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Can boiling newspapers separate the ink from the paper?
not sure, but boiling angry hillary has definitely separated herself from comey & many of her old supporters
waiting for her to be locked behind bars
You do realize that when the ink is removed from the paper and is now transfer to the water you have created a toxic brew. What are you going to do with the water? Pollute our water ways.
“It would be painted onto paper.”
Is there something special about newspaper ink that you would want to use it?
Or is this more of an artistic, symbolic thing?
What are you going to do with the residue after you finish painting and what are you going to do with the pot? This is a very expensive and hazardous way of making paint.
“What are you going to do with the residue after you finish painting and what are you going to do with the pot? This is a very expensive and hazardous way of making paint.”
Why is it dangerous? What can happen? How is ink dangerous?
The ink contains heavy metals which can cause cancer as stated below:
“Exposure to a class of organic chemicals called arylamines, such as benzidine, 2-Naphthylamine and 4-Aminobiphenyl, is associated with high risks of bladder and lung cancer. Apart from these, printing inks also contain colorants, pigments, binders, additives and photo-initiators (used for speeding up the drying process of the ink), which have harmful effects.
There are literally thousands of ink chemicals and a majority of them can be dangerous for consumers. Newspapers are usually produced by a system called offset-web printing, which requires a certain consistency of the ink (it needs to be very thick) and a particular means of drying. For the former, mineral oils (petroleum-based) and solvents such as methanol, benzene and toluene are used; and for the latter, heavy metal (Cobalt)-based drying agents are used.”
I don’t mean to scare you but it also contain Dioxin which is one of the most toxic chemical on earth. It should be noted that some newspaper ink are made from vegetable based which is a lot safer but still poses risks.
I think your information is outdated. Today, virtually all newspapers use soy-based inks because they’re cheaper. This is from a 2001 article:
Erroneous warnings about toxic heavy metals in ink, especially color ink, date from decades ago, back when lead type was used in printing. Since then, the technology of printing newspapers has completely changed, the EPA has imposed regulations on waste and all newspaper ink manufacturers have altered their formulas to exclude heavy metals, says Brad Evans, an ink specialist with the Graphic Arts Technical Foundation in Pittsburgh.
Most pigments used today–such as the carbon black in black ink–are organic materials, says Evans. A few are minerals, such as iron oxide–rust–for red. Any pigment residue left on a printed page would be “minute” and quite safe, says Jacobson.
Newspaper is actually recommended for cheap “organic” mulching. But it must be topped with something else so it shouldn’t blow away.
At least newspapers are kosher for Pesach.
yehudayona My quote was from the organic gardening blog dated March 2, 2011. I would give you the web page but YWN doesn’t allow it. The blog is talking about the toxicity to the vegetables grown in the garden which was filtered twice once by the earth and then by the plant so the degree of toxicity is lessened. Boiling generates a much higher level of toxicity. As far as it being Kosher for Passover as previously stated the newspaper inks are toxic and Should Not be in Contact with Food as the ink will be absorbed in the food nor should newspaper be eaten seperately.
My quote was from the organic gardening blog
Maybe that’s why people who insist organic produce get a bad reputation.
I couldn’t find that blog but I traced your quote back to a Pakistani article. While I can’t vouch for the inks used in Pakistan, the inks used in the USA are safe to compost.
I couldn’t find that blog but I traced your quote back to a Pakistani article. While I can’t vouch for the inks used in Pakistan, the inks used in the USA are safe to compost.
The blog is from Cityfood Growers and they are from Austalia. As far as ink being safe in the US. The federal government namely the EPA considers it toxic and requires and issues permits for it’s disposal. The newspapers are losing money and will buy it from the cheapest supplier. Who maybe getting it from China or Pakistan where there are less safety regulations. Do you require a hechsher for vegetable oil or do you just rely on the manufacturer?
If we use vegetable oil to fuel our cars, does it need a hescher?
What if we sometimes dip our celery sticks in the car’s oil tank, does it need a hescher then?
nauseous! Since you would probably throw up before it’s digested, I would posken that it doesn’t need a hashgacha.
Abba_S, what’s your source for saying the EPA considers the type of ink used by newspapers toxic?
I found a recent (2016) article entitled “Is newspaper safe for your garden?” on the website of the Permaculture Research Institute. Their conclusion is that there may (or may not) be problems with glossy paper or color inks, that perhaps the pulp is bleached with chlorine which leaves a residue of dioxin (but more likely it’s bleached with hydrogen peroxide), and that if you’re concerned about GMO soybeans, you may (or may not) have a concern.
I find a lot of misinformation among people who are advocates of organic food, so I’m not surprised that some random organic blog says ink will kill you.
Do you require a hechsher for vegetable oil or do you just rely on the manufacturer?
The point I was trying to make is that you are accepting as a fact that the newsprint ink is nontoxic here in the US because it is soy or vegetable based . All I am saying is that there is no way for the publisher to know if the ink is or isn’t soy or vegetable based. The only one who knows is the manufacturer and the publisher doesn’t buy it directly from them.
What if we sometimes dip our celery sticks in the car’s oil tank, does it need a hescher then?
Dipping food in the fuel tank is highly toxic as it probably was used with gasoline which is highly toxic. You do not need a hechsher on fuel if you are not eating it.
nauseous! Since you would probably throw up before it’s digested, I would posken that it doesn’t need a hashgacha.
I agree that it doesn’t require a hecsher but disagree with the idea that you would probably throw up before it’s digested. It’s no different than lead based paint chips which children like to eat.
Depending on the volume and person, yes consuming oil straight up can cause vomiting…
Reddit: *What would happen if I drank a cup of vegetable oil?*
“A cup? That’d go right through ya, provided you didn’t promptly throw it back up. Your body can’t process much of the fat (though yes, it would process some) and much like how Olestra works in fat free chips, the oils got to go somewhere and there’s only two ways out.”
In regards to a not-quite-human animal throwing up after drinking oil:
“Cooking oil as you have found out can indeed cause vomiting and diarrhea. You may want to try some burnt toast and see if it absorbs some of the excess oil. However, greasy, fatty foods can cause pancreatitis. Symptoms of pancreatitis vary but include vomiting, diarrhea, anorexia, weakness or collapse, dehydration, shock, fever, depression, and upper abdominal pain.” (Jane Lefler, former Vet. Asst)
Also, lead-based paint chips are totally different. They settle in the stomach. From what I’ve learned, children would gnaw or suck on them more than eat them like a bag of Lay’s.“All I am saying is that there is no way for the publisher to know if the ink is or isn’t soy or vegetable based. The only one who knows is the manufacturer and the publisher doesn’t buy it directly from them.”
Printers and newspaper publishers, like other businesses, list requirements for products they purchase. If they require soy-based ink and a manufacturer lies and sells them petroleum-based ink, the manufacturer can get sued. Also, it seems that soy-based inks are cheaper. So why would a manufacturer risk a lawsuit and his reputation so he could make less money?
If the New York Times (for example) doesn’t buy their tankers full of ink directly from the ink manufacturer, whom do they buy from? Staples?
All I am saying is that there is no way for the publisher to know if the ink is or isn’t soy or vegetable based. The only one who knows is the manufacturer and the publisher doesn’t buy it directly from them.
Even if the publishers buy ink through a middleman they still know who the manufacturer is and have the necessary SDSs, not having SDSs is an OSHA (and possibly fire code) violation.
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