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One choice is to move, en masse, to a state that does not regulate these types of things. California is a good example. But, there are MANY others.
iacisrmma – That is why the question was made in general. No, we cannot comment on a specific situation. Obviously, the Trump-Kushner heter (if it even exists) prompted the general question.
What is the svora? I know that being beardless was common in Slabodka, Mir, and elsewhere. But, why?
I have seen shuls that have prohibited phones and tablets for use as a siddur, chumash, gemara, etc., because they lack kedusha.
What I have always found strange is that people talk about how little day school/yeshiva rebbes make. I do not know about other places, but where I live, the rebbes make twice as much as public school teachers. Twice. And that is not an exaggeration.
Another way of looking at it is that they make 137% of the average *HOUSEHOLD* income in my city.
We have gotten 3 or 4 leads from friends (as well as the Ner Yisrael suggestion here). One looked promising but it turned out to be a poor fit and would have caused more issues than it would have solved. (Sorry I cannot give details.)
Does anyone know of a list of yeshivas along with contact information, preferably including email? It would be great to have something like that along with a short mission statement describing the kind of boys who go there.
No… No lawsuits. No student loans. No DWI’s. No credit card bills. No monthly savings. No restaurants. No vacations. Used clothes for children. One pair of pants for Dad for work as well as Shabbos.
Yes, you don’t get it. But, don’t worry, you’re not alone by any means. The question is if we can somehow figure out how to make lemonaid from lemons. 🙂
Thank you for the suggestion about not bring up money until after acceptance. That does not work in a locale where people know you beforehand. But, it might work when sending a boy away. Thank you for that suggestion.
Gavra_at_work: Unfortunately, those two options are off of the table. The mortgage debt to equity ratio (LTV) is at the maximum that the banks will allow. The days of 125% home equity loans are gone. — Retirement and college savings are also zero.
I understand the “realities.” And it does no good to whine about falling through the cracks of a system that is made for the top and bottom (but not middle) of the economic spectrum. But, there is always hope that brainstorming together will help identify a solution.
nfgo3: $200K per year as a renter of a small 3 bedroom in Flatbush will enable a person to pay full tuition ($15K) per child as long as there are no luxuries like restaurants, summer camps, and vacations. Depending on the out of town place, the cost could be similar or maybe even more since most out of town communities do not have as many price range choices for housing. You might be able to shave a few thousand off of that in some places. But, a person would be hard pressed to find any place where a family of 6 can rent or own for less than about $1500 per month.
Kapusta: Social is not an issue. But, he does have a slight preference for smaller places like you describe.
So, Ner Yisrael has been suggested. Chabad… There are dozens of Chabad yeshivas with different missions, though. Any particular one? Any other specific suggestions?
Hashgafa is not MO. Other than that, its hard to categorize. I think he would be happy in the right yeshivish or chassidish environment. In or out of town does not matter.
We did not think of Ner Yisrael because we have heard that Baltimore is full of homeschoolers because they are locked out of school money-wise. Who would be a good person to talk to there?
We would be willing to do that. And we would be willing to continue paying after graduation. But, who could we contact for such a deal?
Bored_on_the_Job: We tell them our income and family size and tell them that we realize that “money is an issue.” Nobody ever asks what we can pay…
If they were to ask, the answer is probably about $3000 – $4000 per year. That would include tuition, room, board, books, travel, etc.
Looking for a loving environment where he can grow. Secular or not is not an issue. Secular can be picked up later in community college if needed.