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Mashiach Agent,
That may be in a personal sense ,However in a public sense it’s false
The Yidden in the Midbar had die ,and were refused any possibility of teshuva
There was a famous story from Europe of a great maskil who was told when he came to do teshuva that the only way to undo the impact of his effects would be for him to publicly abandon his Judaism altogether
We are in this world for the purpose of Malchus Shamayim i.e. Bringing moshiach
That is all .
The problem is there are many (mouthing piousness ) whose goals are .. different
There are even more who however well meaning, are cop-outs essentially
[They’ll rationalize that
“they’ll working on themselves” or ” they’re working on they’re families”
but] the net sum is the same
cf. last verse of Psalm 123 comm.
Democracy… while it lasts is more bloody than either aristocracy or monarchy. Remember, democracy never lasts long.. There is never a democracy that did not commit suicide.
John Adams
Our Constitution was made only for a moral and religious people. It is wholly inadequate to the government of any other.
John Adams
The founding fathers were for a Republic.
They were against democracy except in some limited form.
The difference is fundamental .
Today ,they would ruefully remark they were prescient indeed.
The United States was far from a democracy until the 1920s.
They even avoided using the word.
Some of the radicals such as Jefferson did believe in greater element of democracy . but he was strongly opposed even more than many of the others to any inclusion of women, blacks, and .. big cities which he termed “ulcers on the body politic”.
They were also opposed to a “secular” entity.
Cf. Franklin’s quote of psalm 127:1
All of that came of age only in the 1920’s with womens’ vote and Jewish influence.
Furthermore ,they were aware that religion was meaningless unless it was hand in hand with moral character and patriarchal system
huju
What caused the rise of Hitler ? A decadent Weimar Rebublic
Plus,”disasters for the Jews”
This may be a shock to you. There are worse things than a Holocaust
What is being a jewish about?
What do we need it for?
Just assimilate and disappear and we’ll avoid the Hitlers(skip hitler went after assimilated also ,yada yada)
Who was disasterous for malaysians?
RebYidd23,
So you only wish only for a libertarian federal government and States’ rights
[How] Are you different from the antebellum South?
Hate to break it to some of you
However
In the ’50s alot of distinguished men were known as the Rav
R’Silver,
R’ Kalmanovitz,etc.
“Human progress is neither automatic nor inevitable… Every step toward the goal of justice requires sacrifice, suffering, and struggle; the tireless exertions and passionate concern of dedicated individuals.”
Rebyidd23,yehudyona, sparkly,
What is your whole davening on Rosh hashana about?!
Do you ch”v just mouth the words?
Upholding Basic moral Values is a prerequisite for, and comes prior to Malchus Shamayim
cf. Yirmiyahu 2:13 comm.
On Economics as well , Libertarianism is Bad for most:
..
Even as the winner-take-all economy has enriched those at the very top, their tax burden has lightened. Tolerance for high executive compensation has increased, even as the legal powers of unions have been weakened and an intellectual case against them has been relentlessly advanced by plutocrat-financed think tanks. In the 1950s, the marginal income tax rate for those at the top of the distribution soared above 90 percent, a figure that today makes even Democrats flinch. Meanwhile, of the 400 richest taxpayers in 2009, 6 paid no federal income tax at all, and 27 paid 10 percent or less. None paid more than 35 percent.
“Human progress is neither automatic nor inevitable… Every step toward the goal of justice requires sacrifice, suffering, and struggle; the tireless exertions and passionate concern of dedicated individuals.”
“The ultimate tragedy is not the oppression and cruelty by the bad people but the silence over that by the good people.”
yehudayona,
C’mon ,the polls are always like that
If the candidate would switch ,so will the polls
“Our lives begin to end the day we become silent about things that matter.”
“The hottest place in Hell is reserved for those who remain neutral in times of great moral conflict.”
zahavasdad,
your point being?!
They deserve to be stripped of any title ? Then we all could agree
The frum public mocked them and voted otherwise
The dislocation and confusion of 2016 do not rival the turmoil of the inter-war period, when Gramsci wrote, but they are symptoms of a new interregnum.
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Mark Leonard is director of the European Council on Foreign Relations.
True Libertarianism could only happen where people live far away from each other like the Wild West
And it was called ..the Wild West!
How about Global Libertarianism too ?
Like the US Practiced at the end of the ’30s?
How could you be for One but against the Other?
Marcus Lehman (a relative of mine), meant well with his novels for youth.
However,to imply a important Enactment for the Klal was due to personal tribulations is to cast aspersions on the whole Mesorah.
A Defender of Mesorah like him hardly could have had that intent.
What they would ultimately like to do is bring the assault into the kodesh and the kodesh hakodoshim of our society. Soon, any schools that seek government funding and diplomas for their students will be forced to teach about all kinds of abominations as if they are just another alternative and an equally legitimate way of living.
What is transpiring may be a transition from the best golus experience the Jewish nation has had since the churban to a more classic mode of golus where, as frum Jews, we somehow walked between the raindrops of hostility, avoiding the pitfalls with a combination of shrewdness and shtadlanus.
It would appear that these kinds of outside government interventions in our education and other areas of life will increase and become more pervasive. We, as a community, must therefore fortify ourselves and prepare for the ensuing legal battles and to eventually make the sacrifices to be able to live as Yidden according to our Torah, even if the battles are lost.
It is difficult to say this, but perhaps the first seedlings of the recession of the benevolent American experience are being seen. We have been seeing small signs in many areas.
CTL,
“are already the law of the land”
That is probably we’re in this world for !
To change it!
And if it comes to it,
Ever heard of civil Disobedience?!
What did the refuseniks do?
Might it be conceivable that some take Judaism as seriously as it is intended?
Perhaps try a different milieu,you will be somewhat less to accost with as great frequency.
CTL,
What about their threatening of the COR and the STAR K to certify “events”?
What about the public muzzling and destroying of any celebrity who even vaguely slightly insinuates that they might like traditional values?
The CEO. of Mozilla was forced to step down,because he had supported prop 8?!
What about their forcing curriculum changes on countless many states?
You all heard about the bakery in Oregon that is was fined $135,000 for refusing to bake a cake for a lesbian ‘event
And Then gofundme shut down the crowdfunding, and demanded the bakery pay it themselves?!
“The change of President will have no affect on your religious rights..they are granted by the Constitution and the courts, not the Executive Branch.”
Addition to 2016 Democratic Platform: supporting the removal of (gender,etc.)
exemptions for religious and any other institutions
Really?! Are you trying to mislead?
CTL,
Putting aside the concept of Ohr lagoyim?
Are you so deluged by the zeitgeist?!
what about
the abandonment our role as descendants of Avraham Avinu who taught all the people of the world and preferring to follow the role of Lot ?
Should we file Chap 11 on our national mission?
cf. Seforno Genesis 6:8
Avos 5:13 ??? ??? ???? ??? on Libertarianism
Remember a short six years ago only (astonishing ), States that previously held referenda on marriage had the record then in favor of Retaining Traditional marriage 31-0 !!
The non-jews, in their guts sense that , as VP Joe Biden proclaimed, it is primarily jewish influence[media,etc.] who are responsible for the seismic social quake
R’ Avigdor Miller wrote in a full page editorial in 1980 excoriating Democratic President Carter and demanded that all orthodox vote AND actively work for his defeat
In the editorial he wrote voting for the Libertarian candidate is much worse than voting Jimmy Carter
CTL,
What about their threatening of the COR and the STAR K to certify “events”?
What about the public muzzling and destroying of any celebrity who even vaguely slightly insinuates that they might like traditional values?
The CEO. of Mozilla was forced to step down,because he had supported prop 8?!
What about their forcing curriculum changes on countless many states?
Presumably you heard about the bakery in Oregon that is was fined $135,000 for refusing to bake a cake for a lesbian ‘event
Then gofundme shut down the crowdfunding, and demanded the bakery pay it themselves?!
The evils of Libertarianism
“The sure cause for evil to flourish, is for good men to do nothing”
And:
Because I was not a ..
Because I was not a …
Because I was not a ….
“A nation, as a society, forms a moral person, and every member of it is personally responsible for his society.”
-Thomas Jefferson
“100% Agree with Health
Said this already a couple months ago”
that they should switch Top of Ticket
CTLAWYER,
Lord Jakubowitz a”h stated there were four philosophy based revolutions in
in the past several centuries
1.The British Puritan Civil War 1640s
(and a continuation)
2.The american
3. The french
(and a continuation)
4.The russian
The first two were based on the bible ,and though there was bloodshed,brought greater human dignity and progress .
The latter two were based on other sources and and have brought ……..
“I admit to being socially Liberal. I don’t live in a self imposed Ghetto. I live in the real America with people of all backgrounds.”?!
So you you admit that your religion is nothing more than your kitchen and maybe your synagogue ?!
which denomination do really you practice?!
What will happen [and it already is]when people switch gender and choose to switch to the other side of the mechitzah?
Most importantly
4) It was originally meant to be temporary
Adam Garfinkle, editor of The American Interest
Abortion is only one of the dangers
CTLAWYER,
Everything you said regarding the election has some merit.EXcept it is much more the an election.
The president elect will nominate Scotus for generations.
Plus , a Hillary win will make everything from Obama irrevocable
100% Agree with Health
Said this already a couple months ago
The sites and blogs who take apart everything else in Judaism could start with this
Here the Rub:For all their sauve talk ,this one would hardly be PC?
The Cherem
1)Post talmudic
2)It was arguably a response to sociogeographical realities of the era
3)It was never accepted by all
He wrote many,many piyyutim.
He died in 1028 or was it 1040?
Abolishing the the Marriage Cherem was ,albeit with limits, alleviate many present day problems
Who needs a president ?!
Who here would make the best or worst dictator/tyrant?