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  • in reply to: The Shach #1708014

    Rav Hutner response upon being asked how Chabad is so successful in propaganda
    “because they were last ones left in Russia together with the Bolsheviks”

    And This was over 40 years ago

    Compare with The mirth he would have had from Dalfin’s Publications

    in reply to: The Shach #1706338

    RebbetzinG,

    while it is painful and tough to discover you’ve been taught till now to be incorrect
    that’s part of growing up

    R’ zusha When challenged admitted he did not know yerushalmi
    Reb Levi Yitzchok of berditchev who was a scholar of note was still handily defeated in the Pinsk debate of 1784

    But if revisionism suits you And yours better ,Be Our Guest .

    in reply to: The Shach #1706174

    RebbetzinG,
    Just in case you didn’t catch , Neville was being facetious when he called it a minhag
    Second
    this is the best defense you could offer?
    How about hmm..Lev Tahor
    According to you they are as entitled to what they perceive as their minhag!

    in reply to: The Shach #1706091

    RebbetzinG,,
    must I disabuse you of your background education

    firstly a primary role in the whole Hasidic movement was to break rigid hierarchy
    they were opposed to the pyramid of titles
    was supposed to be a common Brotherhood
    cf. comrade after the Russian Revolution
    Second it is of course impolitic to say thus And heresy for ears like yours but many of them while righteous
    were not Scholars of the first rank

    in reply to: intellectual thread #1703022

    Haleivi,
    Can happiness. be other than ephemeral

    in reply to: Halachically okay to be liberal? #1701979

    Moral system Builds steadily National Character

    One Example
    A century previous when America was a relatively morally rigid country
    Height For Men with 3rd highest and women fourth-highest in the world
    A century later No longer even the upper 40 for males and barely hit forty For females

    ‘There was a time when most American children were expected to outgrow their parents.
    Since data on Americans’ average height was first collected in the early 20th century, children and adolescents grew about an inch and a half taller every 20 years. But recent measurements suggest Americans’ average height has more or less hit the ceiling.
    Data collected from the federal Centers for Disease Control show that average height for Americans has stabilized in the past 50 years to about 5 feet 9 inches for men and 5 feet 4 inches for women.
    “We’ve pretty well maxed out in terms of stature. There’s been little change in adult height over last generation,” says William Leonard, an anthropologist at Northwestern’

    “A 2016 study showed that Iranian men have seen the biggest change in height over the last century, gaining about 6.7 inches (17 centimeters)”.

    Further example
    Once Upon..

    on the battlefield
    the German was convinced that their moral probity make them perform better than the relatively looser French . and they were proven absolutely accurate

    Being overly Jewish Centric we have our own compass therefore were not as affected
    & usually miss these
    It is the height of crude ruthless ungraciousness To the host country to uncaringly ignore these

    To Paraphrase the famous quote:
    Men build laws and institutions Then Institution and laws build men

    in reply to: Joining Litvishe #1700919

    RebbetzinG,

    No need to defend R’ Yaakov
    Shulchan Aruch was never the be all and end all for old Litvishe Rabbanim.
    cf. Bach intro.
    Since when has it been
    the be all and end all for Chabad?! irony

    He is content with your intestinal perturbations

    in reply to: Halachically okay to be liberal? #1699926

    “as a society we are better off if we all don’t steal and kill.”
    Propaganda
    Who said so
    Who defines what the terms should mean anyway
    Guaranteed You steal possibly even kill According some esoteric definition

    ‘Tis Literally What the powerbrokers under the guise of democracy Find convenient And can easily brainwash at a given moment

    in reply to: Halachically okay to be liberal? #1699716

    It is A OK Halachically to be liberal for this one & laudable also

    “Sanders: U.S. Must Ban Assault Weapons Like New Zealand
    March 22, 2019

    in reply to: Halachically okay to be liberal? #1699328

    ” I don’t think any significant portion of the goyish world views that issue the same way we do.”
    That’s because we have been sleepwalking
    4 + 1/2 years ago there was had a hearing in Trenton regarding end-of-life .
    presumably based on the polls and what not

    they played up the claim of that the public was on the other side
    According to reports
    among those who showed up it was 9 to 1 non-jews ! against pulling the plug
    Have things changed since then? Probably .and whose fault is it ?

    ” that liberal Jews would say that after Rowe V Wade, there is no point in arguing about abortion in the political sense”

    Well if there’s no absolutes and It always just relative well then you might be correct
    some of the plaints against Republicans in the 1950s were They were the original ” me too”
    In other words they held the same just as moderate Democrats, just perhaps little less hasty

    in reply to: How to become a Gadol (not the bar mitzva kind)? #1698988

    The ‘Job’ of Gadol is primarily Carry the world on his shoulders and Pull It Forward

    The job of Rebbe is to carry yidden in the present

    in reply to: How to become a Gadol (not the bar mitzva kind)? #1698987

    Rav Berenbaum was never on the Moetzes
    He kept his distance

    in reply to: Joining Litvishe #1698986

    similar trajectory towards greater Chasidim could also be seen by Nitra, Kashau, Tzehlim, Krasna and Pupa.”

    conversation with a choshuve מרביץ תורה (disseminator of Torah) of Litvishe stock. at some point he remarked to me along the following lines – ‘I agree with you that the Litvishe way (Litvak דרך is the correct way, but it is harder. I have been breaking my head lately over some שווערע ( difficult passages of רמב”ם). It is hard. It is a lot easier to be a Chasid.’

    Rav Moshe Feinstein זצ”ל famously used to say that the saying ‘Es iz shver tzu zein a Yid’ (it is difficult, hard to be a Jew’) did in a generation of Jewish youth. They would hear their father’s, although keeping the tradition, sighing, groaning, about the difficulty involved. The children then, when given the opportunity to live a life that seemed (on the surface) easier, sans the same observance, unsurprisingly grabbed it. No, he counseled, , we need to be very careful about what message we are sending – not ‘עס איז שווער צו זיין א איד’, rather ‘עס איז גוט צו זיין א איד” (it is good, great, enjoyable to be a Jew)!

    I believe the same lesson applies . No, not ‘עס איז שווער צו זיין א ליטוואק’ , but rather ‘עס איז גוט צו זיין א ליטוואק’

    in reply to: Halachically okay to be liberal? #1698548

    Er,

    Reality is past the basic minimum it’s Law of diminishing Returns
    The more

    ‘tolerant’ we try to be and demand the more intolerant they’ll eventually become
    So it was eg Weimar So it will be
    Bereishis 27: 40 comm.
    Second,
    Sure it was easier and Logical to be a knee-jerk paradoxically high-minded liberal in the 19th /beginning of the 20th century
    We ought to have matured since However
    The Impressive legal Moral edifice and structure
    that we were up against was more precarious and fragile in retrospect than we realized. we went Too far in battling to the nth degree blue laws,Economic discrimination laws, and ex fortiori what came after

    Furthermore,worth noting that your position is predicated on Self-centeredness. Thus proving Even to the on the fence straddlers that anti-semites money uber alles to be correct

    in reply to: Halachically okay to be liberal? #1698195

    “For arguments sake, since I know you will never be able to answer, where”
    ספרי n2nd verse of שמע

    ראשוני on Bereishis, chapter 34

    Rabbi Yaakov Kamenetsky-
    we are obligated to support a candidate stands for public morality even if they are anti-Semitic over A candidate who is anti traditional morality-
    as dictated to David Eidensohn (Psychotherapist & Rabbi) of Monsey
    Rabbi Shimon Schwab said similar in 1992 Due to our national and Global responsibility

    הרב אהרונ soloveitchik
    Recent publication from his son

    Rebbe of חבד
    תוספות יום טוב
    אבות
    And
    הלכות מלכים

    Note:Possible also Author of אגרות משה As per his letter We are perforce obligated to Proclaim
    ידוע לכל העמים שעם השם שונאי תועבה’

    in reply to: Joining Litvishe #1697967

    NOT follow this Chazal and have a proper chazoras haShatz?!

    Rabbi Yaakov Kamenetsky, Explained that one already years ago
    He said that always was the custom of full time elevated Scholars
    It wasn’t meant to be imitated by lay people or youth though

    in reply to: Halachically okay to be liberal? #1697914

    “When are you going to stop demanding that American law be in complete agreement with the Torah ?”

    When the Torah tells us to and not a moment sooner.
    “politics is the art of the possible “and while that purports to be our goal and desire,
    obviously pushing too much in one decade or generation will do more damage then positive

    What happened to the classic modern Orthodox premise that they’re here to uplift the world
    ‘ Confrontation’ and all that
    Might we at least have an acknowledgement that it was Largely disingenuous,[ little more than a useful cudgel Viz a Viz those in the black hat insular Communities]Never meant to be actualized in real terms?

    ?

    in reply to: Halachically okay to be liberal? #1697897

    CTL,
    come out and admit that you like the present social status quo & skip political roundabouts

    How about right to Kill/ euphemism right to die

    in reply to: Joining Litvishe #1697361

    RebbitzinGolden,
    probably intentionally mixing him up with his son R Yitzchak

    in reply to: Joining Litvishe #1697360

    “stopped sleeping in Sukkah”
    total fabrication
    “wearing tefillin on Ch”H”
    Almost all wore it on Chol Ha’meod many with a bracha

    that said, each locale had on its own tradition

    in reply to: Joining Litvishe #1697357

    Joseph,
    “The cherem is meaningless”.
    My grandfather went to verify that in 1946
    And it’s not completely simple as that.
    As R’Chaim kreiswirth who was of Polish origin said in 1975 he has a tradition it applicable to a certain well-known grouping[ we will not mention by name]still

    in reply to: Joining Litvishe #1697354

    Joseph,
    Check out the old lithographs even before the Russian decrees they dressed somewhat differently

    in reply to: Halachically okay to be liberal? #1697353

    Fiscally conservative socially left liberal
    Zu midas Sodom
    cf.Avos 5:13;Bereishis 13:13
    Fiscally big government socialist socially left hippie liberal
    Zu midas am ha’aretz Or midas Cana’an

    cf. ibid.; Medrash acc.to
    R’Dovid Kronglass

    in reply to: Halachically okay to be liberal? #1696676

    Tanchuma RE’eh

    Some drowned in the flood even if they themselves weren’t degenerate for their disinterest in the moral degeneracy

    in reply to: Halachically okay to be liberal? #1696674

    chiefshmerel,

    Read it again
    Later Nach especially

    Discover Our obligation to the world and our Purpose

    ,Amil Zola,

    Tikkun Olam Is part of our ethos and therefore no

    Not we should allow ourselves to be too closely Affiliated with
    Any political affiliation
    We ought to be & are much bigger than

    in reply to: Halachically okay to be liberal? #1696177

    Halachically okay to be Socially liberal?
    Halachically okay to be observant ,but support others chillul shabbos?
    Halachically okay to be pro mafial?

    in reply to: Is Yiddish Holy? #1687735

    “Although I’m a Sephardi, I love Yiddish! It’s a soul language that basically defies all principles of what an official language should be. It’s musical and can convey feelings no other language can. I remember that the Roshei Yeshiva called me Lapes Cardeizei, because Lithuanian Jews can’t pronounce

    in reply to: Why Are Torah Observant Jews Overwhelmingly Republican/Conservative? #1630751

    Yserb,
    For the urban Northeast it largely seems to be that way Still the statement is a stretch

    The majority of people act inappropriately ?yes
    Do they realign the whole world to fit with their indiscretions,promote, and flaunt it ?!
    Or do they prefer to realign their indiscretions or at least their childrens for a better world?
    Hypocrisy?
    As the old french proverb goes
    ” hypocrisy is the tribute that Vice pays to virtue”

    in reply to: Why Are Torah Observant Jews Overwhelmingly Republican/Conservative? #1630679

    laskern,etc.
    “caring for” Is Worthy for a means But that’s where it stops
    Eastern peoples are”caring”too
    cf.Avos1:14
    comm.

    in reply to: Why Are Torah Observant Jews Overwhelmingly Republican/Conservative? #1630676

    Ain’t much of a choice
    Since we are of the persuasion That there is a purpose To this world

    Silly op-ed question

    in reply to: The world is in a state of Geula- and don’t misunderstand us! #1629259

    ” shleimus haaretz was one of the biggest proofs of the Rebbe’s”
    Is that so?

    Predicting boldly

    the Gaza settlements will never be abandoned?

    in reply to: The world is in a state of Geula- and don’t misunderstand us! #1629255

    ” a certain person decided were all kofrim BEFORE gimmel tammuz ”

    As if he was the only one?

    HaRav Yaakov Kamenetsky Predicted these developments & condemned

    laskern,

    The Chazon Ish said also that a proper BALANCE between positive hatred of evil and love of goodness in tandem would bring redemption from golus

    laskern

    in reply to: What Chabad Meshichism and Anti-Vaxxism Have in Common #1628355

    apushatayid ,ubiquitin,
    of course those who appear “logical”, articulate ,and master the medium and will always be more influential, “intelligent” and convincing than decent people who don’t

    in reply to: Lev Tahor’s donors – Which rock could they be living under? #1625774

    ZionGate,
    Harel implied that they were on the verge of catching Mengele And where pushed off &
    ordered to put All available resources Towards finding Yossele…

    in reply to: The world is in a state of Geula- and don’t misunderstand us! #1625076

    “I am well aware that Chabbad had a Yeshiva, Rav Gustman had a position there.”
    He was advised to leave in the late ’40s. Which he did.

    ” he supported all Torah institutions and launched programs for even frum kids…”
    The Vaad Hatzoloh rescue during the war was cross political and cross ideological. The only grouping
    that gave them difficulty working with was Chabad.

    in reply to: The world is in a state of Geula- and don’t misunderstand us! #1625074

    “In fact the only known Yeshiva that predated the Frierdiker Rebbe that I am aware of is Torah Vodaas.”

    Yeshivas Chafetz Chaim
    Chaim Berlin
    New Haven, after a couple of metamorphoses presently Ner Israel
    Skokie
    MTJ
    RJJ
    Chafetz Chaim TA of Baltimore
    There was also something of the sort in Toronto

    in reply to: The world is in a state of Geula- and don’t misunderstand us! #1624952

    “In fact the only …”
    Making up your own false facts . figures

    Furthermore a certain RY

    in reply to: Is the Yeshiva Community Wrong? #1624760

    Those who For Whom The State- D’etat More so the people
    become their raison d’etre in sincerity fine there’s what to work with
    Wouldn’t it however a tragedy of global dimensions if we exchange the Ends for the means ?

    raison d’tat

    in reply to: Is the Yeshiva Community Wrong? #1624726

    Isn’t it a tragedy to reduced to be subservient to a state ?!
    Should we have more to offer For the world?!
    It’s not overly parochial?(Many secular used to claim this as well )
    that’s all we are?!

    in reply to: The world is in a state of Geula- and don’t misunderstand us! #1624659

    CS,

    It was an understatement

    in reply to: The world is in a state of Geula- and don’t misunderstand us! #1624327

    “For now I can refer you to R Aharon Soloveitchik who wrote a letter in response to those who denounced meshichistim ”

    Taken out of context
    In other statements he had some cold things to say about it

    ‘ What does exist is that numerous Gedolim who were contemporaries of the Lubavitcher Rebbe did hold him in very high esteem and regarded him as a Gadol B’Yisroel. This is a matter of record and is undisputable.’

    Tall statement
    Although they considered him talented and of the potential

    in reply to: Is the Yeshiva Community Wrong? #1624267

    the maskilim made a play in which a Proto Jewish Army was waiting to fight
    kohen Announced out the verses To all those Fall within the rubric of the categories [ including fear of sin] to go home
    eventually There’s only two or four [depends on your version] left

    guess The sequel

    in reply to: Is the Yeshiva Community Wrong? #1624261

    sarahLevin,
    There an estimated 14 million Jews in the world with plenty of financial resources bl”‘h
    how many Charedim are there ? a few hundred thousand bl”‘h?
    there’s so much That ought to be accomplished
    to paraphrase AJ heschel: many are messengers who are being sidetracked from their message

    in reply to: Is the Yeshiva Community Wrong? #1624256

    SarahLevin,

    REITS leans Center/ Right-of-center
    That is why much of left of center MO disparage it As little than ‘an orthodox Day School’

    in reply to: The world is in a state of Geula- and don’t misunderstand us! #1623460

    “is that numerous Gedolim who were contemporaries of the Lubavitcher Rebbe did hold him in very high esteem and regarded him as a Gadol B’Yisroel.”
    And also Delusional
    A message was sent to him Saying As much from his former Close Associate

    in reply to: The world is in a state of Geula- and don’t misunderstand us! #1623112

    Two points(Unable to address everything ):
    As CS willing to admit Others from previous generations May have exceeded the Rebbe Proves
    she’s already more moderate and and Mild than Avg.

    Go to your local fellow without a filter & ask

    2: “Shofech Domim” probably referring to Muhammad

    in reply to: Election Results 2018 — Republicans Do Better Than Expected #1621319

    laskern

    There are two answers
    1 no party can do everything and therefore they need to
    concentrate on they consider primary and if this gets too far & if the other party shows certain basic restraints, they can as many Republicans in ’08 Half stated,punt over to the other side To let them take care of it
    most of Democratic party however cannot be trusted with the reins of the country in our times
    2 It is indeed is also correct much of the Republican party has gone too far from early 20th century progressivism
    Now there are some who are trying to walk it back

    The GOP primaries in 2016 was about this In part

    Those who have shown much care for the poor prior
    eg Pat Buchanan haven’t been your cup of tea

    this challenge is really is Strawman Because it’s not as if you would change if they
    did take care of the poor

    in reply to: Halachic question #1620950

    R’Henoch Leibowitz was of the view it only applied towards עשו

    Some however contend these are characteristics
    ISIS Fighters and their supporters Show traits Of cool Sadism
    May have mixed in( arguably a reason Older Arab states are so concerned about them]
    The rubric of עשו

    in reply to: Some topics are just too controversial for the coffee room moderators. #1620944

    YW Moderator-29,
    ’tis convenient Putting the onus on the
    chofetz chaim
    But the moderation is too erratic to be inclined to believe it

    well then feel free not to

    StuartW,
    Postmodernism?

    in reply to: The world is in a state of Geula- and don’t misunderstand us! #1620933

    CS,
    come now
    Are you really willing to pretend
    any single lubavitcher that you are familiar with is going to entertain a semblance of possibility Of any of the Rebbes That they weren’t born with your category of tzaddik?

    Other Chassidus’ may wish that to be true, may even wish to believe it to be true however they Won’t actually believe it

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