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Justme22actually in the right circumstances not such a bad thing according to the latest research the whole g*y genetic deviant proclivities is a sum total of 1% difference
therefore if you have the right guy with the right female to put in the effort in many cases
it may work and it has in the past as wellIndoctrinated by the Zeitgeist ?!
For all those who
Selichos is so unmeaningful That we need eg Carlebach,Kumzitz
My Recommendation is abolish The
SelichosPreferable To have 10 minutes of collective
[ with obviously all devices off and out of hands reach ]
silent contemplationPresumably if this presently is too disruptively radical
Hold A Very Abbreviated SelichosJoseph,
” Presumably the naysayers here would advocate that ”
agree that things should be different when a majority Subscribe
to the fact that’s the original paper has veered far from its own original agenda“We find raping an arusa is worst than an eishes ish. An arusa is sekula, but an eishes ish is chenek”.
False
only a na’ara besula is sekilla
& even that’s complexAccording to Research Albeit unofficial
forcing a rapist to marry and then raise children with the victim is a greater deterrent than jail or any other modern punishment psychologically
it does not matterRabbi shraga Fievel mendelowitz would refer to those who Adhere to the legal obligations of Judaism but prefer to glean their mores and mindset from elsewhere as Disciples of Bila’am
referencing Bamidbar 22:18“..When a 23 year old woman was gang raped, tortured and murdered in Delhi, in 2012, this was known worldwide as the “Delhi gang rape case”. The emphasis was on “gang rape”, not on “murder”. This is typical. Why is rape seen a crime worse than torture or murder? .. . Isn’t it possible that traditional societies value a woman’s honor more, just as radical feminists and left-liberals do, their pretensions to the contrary notwithstanding?
Why do criminals who severely mutilate their victims get away with it more easily than convicted rapists? Why are women largely let off the hook?””
“Finally, why do rapist deserve “the harshest of punishments”? Is rape worse than murder? Being beaten within an inch of your life? Suffering lifelong disability after being shot, stabbed or bludgeoned? I think the left with its female-driven agenda has managed to create this special category of sex offenses. Once the public at large buys into the idea that sexual assault is the worst crime you can commit against a fellow citizen, worse even that murder apparently,.”
“Rape is a wild card.
It has no proscribed punishment”
rape is mechuyav in the monetary charges-
nezek tzaar ripui sheves and boshes like any other permanent criminal assault eg chopping of an armdevny,
Sorry no
it just takes you out of your comfort zone and not willing to contemplate” It is a construct that has evolved from a myriad causes, many of which relate ”
So verbose o’dear anything to avoidחובות הלבבותStates
Every step up of technological progress
parallels with it a commensurate decline Of
Human stature And humankindub
if someone rapes An individual And as it happens
she never knows about it and yes it is possible and she remains essentially unaffected by it
that is inherently worse than a case of theft And as it happens
One ruins and wiped out someone’s Financial lifestyle foreverThere’s other things in the algorithm but midrashic statements are not necessarily included
There are more than a few sources that the pyramidal structure of punishment is the Baseline for our faith t that is besides the fact that the higher punishment always overrides the lower punishment
and the fact that when it comes to action and inaction the punishment when it comes to weighing that the Judgment of priority is set is the of the gravityonce more there are other factors And caveats that need to be considered as well
Much the same crowd once again trying to minimize the seriousness of Judaism
I will try to answer some for the momentNow there’s much to be learned from these serious statements made in our texts regarding slander or haughtiness they’re not meant to be taken literal
remarkable or not the same non-literalist on other issues are so literal all of a sudden over here for these
Baseline for Judaism is the pyramidal structure of punishment .however there’s other factors that must be taken into that edifice
eg, Shabbos even though it is more severe than murder which by the way is decapitation. is not one of the three Cardinal precepts For which for which an individual must forfeit their life for
Second one must factor in unintentional act as well for to kill unintentional they have to flee in Exile which is not the case for Shabbos
a kohan who kills unintentionally is not permitted ever more to go up and Duchan“Incidentally do you know of any discussions regarding which is worse intermarriage or marrying someone who won’t keep taharas hamishpacha.
Actually remarkably was discussed it was actually rather topical in the later 70s
and it was addressed in an article published in the Jewish Observer 1977 from none other than Rabbi Yaakov Kamenetskyub,etc
When you lack knowledge of the entire gamut of our teachings you have to go based on the pyramid
even if it’s not politically correct
and not based on some spliced statement taken out of contextDevny
Some analogy
more proof to what was written above how Warped it is it is making people
no one’s debating the fact that this is a reality And needs to be navigated
Many of us actually feel a sense of relief when my net is down for a day or two And disconnect from the world for a bitcontemplate any of your ancestors and tell me if you really believe they would have better off rather than how you know them if they live d in the internet age
it didn’t take us long not even a full generation to start rationalizing . that quick.
throughout the duration of the past were many developments that were unequivocally negative and yet could be a trace Wow it didn’t lower it didn’t even take us this long not even a full generation to start right or generation to start rationalizing directions that was quick throughout the duration of the past you were many movements and developments that were unequivocally negative and yet y could be a trace of silver lining after the fact
and people have come and try to rationalize why it’s not so negative
the internet on the balance of it is bad
let’s stop trying to rationalize to ourselves
many of us find many uses for it .Presently it’s the reality & is not going awaynevertheless some of us are honest enough to admit the world was a better place beforehand prior to it’s advent
Attempt to
look back at some of your ancestors and try to Envision with relief that they’re fortunate they didn’t have to live in the internet age
that should say enough‘האומר לרע טוב ולטוב רע’
האומר לרע טוב ולטוב רע
DrYdd et al
The left offered charedm better deals in
1990
1994
2009
Charedm turned them down
with the one exception of 1999 & they walked out pretty fast over desecration of Shabbathogwash and dishonest as most of these polemics invariably are even if well-intentioned
my grandfather studied in he Telz (Telshe) Yeshiva,
growing a beard was essentially verboten there [he had a mustache it was recommended to grow aby a member of the hanhala)” Rabbi Chaim Ozer [Grodzenski, Rov of Vilna], of blessed memory. He demanded that they place a prohibition on Rabbonim against granting [students who cut their beards] Rabbinic ordination [semichah], on Shochtim against teaching them the skill of ritual slaughtering [shechitah], and on Jewish communities against employing them in any religious position” (Kovetz Yagdil Torah 7:5). ”
Unlikely. If proof is needed read the episode with the shochet In the Autobiography Of
Lieutenant Birnbaum“Rav Kalmanowitz therefore refused to shave, and the Roshei Yeshiva and his friends respected him for it.”
This is accurate indeed only because of who he was and his personalityhe himself didn’t approve Or at least never expressed disapproval of the shita against beards of the
Mirrer Yeshiva Except for those on a much higher levelrav Rabbi Elya Sve his son-in-law reportedly expounded that a bochur with a beard is like a monkey in pajamas
A.Where Are All The Commentators About The Ethiopian Protests
B.’ prominent recent event contributing to the reviving of the white supremacy fear took place in Charlottesville, Virginia in early August 2017. Perhaps, some ill-received statements by Pres. Trump brought to the events a prominence they would not otherwise have gained.
To make a long story short: An ad hoc group convened what was billed as a national meeting to “unite the right.” They also wanted to protest the forthcoming removal of a statue of a Confederate general. They requested and obtained a permit from the city. Some of the protesters wore Klan paraphernalia; some wore Nazi insignia. I think that most did neither. Given the theme of the meeting – “unite…”- it’s very unlikely that most or many did either. It’s hard to tell from the TV footage. Cameras targeted over and over the same handful of colorful and vividly signaling demonstrators. As usual, the reporters on the scene did not try to draw a random (representative) sample of the demonstrators. I don’t expect them to, of course.
There was a physical confrontation with counter-protesters who showed up without a permit (therefore, acting technically unlawfully) and ready for street battle. Some of those called themselves “antifa” (“anti-fascist,” of all things).’..
What however should be derived from these protests ?
that there is a time And place for protesting
it’s all about will
even when it blocks driveways and even without permitsOp Ed etcetera
sorry
Charedm are expected to be on a higher level than Ethiopians and usually are treated that way
“defining deviancy down” is not a resolution!
making these parallels score quick political points but are poor & not healthy long termBeing willfully naive .
no matter how much some want to try to claim otherwise how much the public opinion are behind or firmly resist long runa demonstration will certainly determine the long-run whether or
not they get a permit
Take a Civil disobedience page from Martin Luther King jr. and bro’s
(That is notwithstanding the 1977 the Supreme Court ruling in Skokie Nazi March)And all the more so in Israel
cf.My comment above
YO
Correct and he was in the minority
it is a prime reason besides the more obvious ones As to how come Ethiopians are more affiliated with the sfardim
In bnei Brak There is a Scholar
Who goes through
Dissects and tears apart most of His sources” Ethiopians are any more or less Jewish than Ashkenazim”
Rabbi SZ Auerbach Dismissed that assertion Out of hand
for that matter most leading Authorities agreedJustice Thurgood Marshall once described his philosophy as this: “You do what you think is right and let the law catch up”
KJ
obviously less likely to give permits for these protest
if it was important enough we would manage to get them somehow& What of the must’arabim?
” there is no difference in opinion in the original sources”?
There is an explicit Mishna for one
Milhouse
Though in the original sources there was differences in opinion
The preponderance of tradition Through the Ages with very few discrepancies is remarkably consistent
That is they will eventually went into Exile they are still in Exile and they will eventually returnQuebec Secularism -more accurately Neutralism law
Can’t bring myself to call it a good Law because Some will have to take it off the yamulka
and possibly snoods
How could we deem it however a bad law?That the secular And non-orthodox organizations Were militantly opposing this from the beginning
– and they’re not fools, must be something good coming out of itcoffee,
isn’t difficult
he has a major ax to grind
Rationalize lower level of observance And propagandizeYO,
Swings & misses again
There are a couple of sources That German Jews are from the shevet Binyamin
cf. Migaleh AmukosYO,
If the Sephardic methodology of psak works for you and yours, go for it!
Although those who comprehend understand it to be Less than Optimum it is good enough
This shall not expounded upon as
a. The Forum is not appropriate
b. it is for those who are worthyYO,
Besod,
Sephardic Middle Eastern Jews Pronounce five different vowel sounds which is Babylonian Origin
ashkenazic non Hasidic Jews make 7 different vowel sounds which was of Galilean origin
Yemenite make six different vowel sounds which seems to have been of Judean originAs They were by and large contemporaneous there’s no proof one is better than the other Though there is sourced basis that the Sephardic pronunciation has more flaws
YO,
For Shema and Krias Hatorah, we do.twisted,
one of the options Ben-Gurion and Co rejected was..Yehuda/Judea
” It is not correct to call a state as the Land of ——. ”
Land of( Germanic) Land of( Latin)
England Bulgaria
Scotland Latvia
Poland Romania
Finland Italia= Italy
Deutschland= GermanyEtc. Etc.
how many other states in existence in 1948 didn’t have ‘Land Of ‘in title [Putting aside Latin America With Borders largely artificial And arbitrary] ?
Lbrite,
Absolutely there are
First Mishna in taharos just to
startSo Dr. Gra”ch is Da’at Torah for you [ as he is for many others who stridently deny their belief in the concept]?
The Dr. is full of preconceived notions and has been before he proved it with Rupture and Reconstruction in ’94.
a study of Bavli vs Yerushalmi for anyone who is open-minded ought to lean towards the Ashkenazi
Land of Israel contention.
Jews have been living in Cologne since 321 ce the latest, with customs far predating Rabbenu Gershom.Yabia,et al
Doros harishonim And the traditions of the Jews of Italy would be a good place to startRational,
It’s bias
Israel has been the leading theory since before Halevi
more importantly DNA is leading in that direction eg yemenite Jews and Palestinian Arabs
more closely related to Ashkenazi than BabylonianYabia,
Both of my grandmothers Ironically were German Jews and their families were Western German for centuries
Both of their families largely or partly originated from Spain or for one the Balearic Islands Prior to expulsionYabia,
In case you were out to lunch DNA has disproven that one thoroughly
though Ukrainian, Carpathian ,bukharian Jews may have an admixture of bloodYabia=Arthur koestler
Hungarian Jews were generally considered less scholarly than their polish Or Lithuanian Coreligionists
Hungarian Jews did a better job in keeping their communities and baale batim religious however