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Halachicly, a child has the right to bring his parents to a Din Torah.
In fact, I forget the Amorah (I believe) who’s father insulted him viciously in public (in Shul) and the son sat there quietly not responding, allowing his father to continue with his false insults in public. Later, he brought his father to a Din Torah. (I hope I recall the details correctly.)
willi – The Coffee Room somehow display the handle differently than the main section. (Here it shows the login name, in the main section you can choose any screen name.)
Yes! Unbelievable, no?!
I really mean it though. If you have idiots with anti-Torah ideas posting, supporters of the Torah MUST rise up and denounce it. But if there is no opportunity for them to post their narishkeit, then it saves a whole lot of time for the fans of the Torah.
BTW its good to know I’m so famous! Why are you talking about YW so much in shul? Shul isn’t a social venue… But what are you saying anyways? 😉July 25, 2008 3:15 am at 3:15 am in reply to: Shiduchim, Is giving perfect information always the best solution?? #620267
Shaila, Shaila, Shaila.July 25, 2008 3:13 am at 3:13 am in reply to: Terrible side effects of the bungalow colony movement #619733
slabodka, You bring up very good points. Please submit your own proposed solution. We would all be very interested in your opinion on this matter, having brought up vital issues.
No. Close the comment sections.
I hadn’t specified the conditions WHEN the Torah requires censorship. But as you enumerated in you preceding comment, there ARE times when the Torah demands censorship.
Yasher Koach for that maaiseh from Rebbe Aaron HaGadol of Karlin!
Do you, per chance, recall how Sarah Umainu acted when Avrohom Avinu had his “guests”?
THAT is the proper definition of tzinius!
oomis – Proper tzinius dress in the summertime is the same as in the wintertime. Additionally, I think you can be very confident that our Emahos covered their legs.
This is what I found; the requirements to give Tochachah are:
1) You have to first assess that there is at least a reasonable possibility of the person listening to you. (Sometimes there are Halachic ways of assessing this.)
2) You have to give the Tochachah in a non-aggressive manner, and never in front of people.
3)You have to make the person understand that the only reason you are giving him the Tochachah is because you care about him, and it is for his good, so that he can get Olam Habah.
It also says in Sefer HaChinuch perek 239 that you should give someone tochacha privately and in a nice way; but if they don’t listen to you, then you should embarrass them in public so that they will do teshuvah.
(Please correct any errors you find from me.)
Are you saying there is a difference between a Taryag mitzva meforesh in the chumash and one that isn’t?
Perhaps you can elaborate on the difference, if so.July 24, 2008 5:21 pm at 5:21 pm in reply to: Shiduchim, Is giving perfect information always the best solution?? #620260
nameless, Beautiful story!
When relating potentially negative information regarding a shidduch, a shaila should always be asked FIRST.
illini – Can’t kiruv be applied to anyone?
Leib5 – The Torah demands a degree of censorship (despite whether liberal America may not like censorship.)
I can double check, but I do believe what I said is correct.
If you get a chance to check first, drop a comment.
True screaming and the like will not accomplish anything. But if someone witnesses or is aware of another Yid doing an aveira, be it tzinius, be it kashrus, or be it chillul shabbos, he has a halachic obligation to inform the violator that they are sinning and should stop. (The only exception would be if the witness knows with 100% certainty that the aveira-doer will refuse to heed his words.)
kitzur_dot_net: Ich farshtay 🙂
Thank You Feivel!
The Reform share the philosophy you espoused. But amongst the Rabbonim, tzinius has and always will be an issue they will publicly address to insure our noshim tzidkonius dress properly and appropriately.July 22, 2008 11:38 pm at 11:38 pm in reply to: The greatest financial supporter of Torah Jewry in the world #634033
Adolf Eichmann himself said that the assistance provided to him by the Zionist Rudolf Kastner was immeasurable in keeping Hungarian Jewry quiet before deporting them to Auswitz.
Kastner hid the Vrba-Wetzler report (which was a report from 2 Auswitz escapees) from Hungarian Jewry, who he helped lead to believe that the death trains were merely taking them to resettle. He knew (unlike the rest of Hungarian Jewry) that they were death trains.
Kastner (to quote a Zionist/Israeli court) “sold his soul to the devil” by selling the lives of half a million Hungarian Jews to Adolf Eichmann in exchange for his crony train.
I can quote you from Jews directly involved in the rescue efforts that will testify that the Zionists were working in cahoots with the Nazi’s ym’s against the rescue and helping the Nazis keep the Jews on the way to the camps quiet. [i.e. Rabbi Chaim Michael Dov Weissmandl and others.]
I can quote you from Nazis directly involved working with the Zionists that will testify that the Zionists were working in cahoots with them (the Nazi’s ym’s) and were immeasurable in the assistance provided. [i.e. Adolf Eichmann]
I can quote you from other Zionists that will testify that the Zionists were working in cahoots with the Nazi’s ym’s. [i.e. Ben Hecht and the Zionist Judge who tried Kastner]
And after the war, Kastner testified in Nuremberg in SUPPORT of several Nazis, in their war crimes trial. He got some Nazi’s ACQUITTED.
And of course the Zionists derailed the trucks for Jewish lives deal by tipping off the British authorities to arrest the Jewish emissary sent from Europe to the middle east to facilitate the deal.
The Zionists have millions of Jews blood on their hands in their efforts to establish their State.
I for one appreciate Feivel’s approach.
The important thing is that we all help each other reach higher levels of kedusha. And one of the most important barometers of such kedusha, is maintaining the highest degrees of tzinius. And we should all encourage each other to reach such madreigas.
What I really don’t understand, and if anyone does please help me on this, is how ANYONE could even question that Yidden are holier than anyone else and on a FAR higher madreiga than anyone else?!
You’ve more than made clear with your various comments that if halacha is not to your liking, well by golly, “reform halacha” (without as much so saying.) The “if there is a Rabbinic will, there is a halachic way” attitude.
A woman who violates hilchos tzinius causes men to sin, in addition to the sins she is doing. The Rabbonim have rightfully taken responsibility to insure that women do dress tziniusdikly.July 22, 2008 5:02 pm at 5:02 pm in reply to: The greatest financial supporter of Torah Jewry in the world #634032
Your whitewash of history hardly excuses the Zionists collaboration with the Nazi’s ym’s in exterminating European Jewry to furtherance their goal of a State.
If a woman dresses like a provocative zoineh, that is not someone “proud” of herself.
illini, Reenmasheen is on the ball. Only someone of your anti-halacha ilk could think it sarcastic and tell him to get “head checked.” I confidently submit that it is you who needs a physician.
That 0.2% of the world population is on a FAR higher madreiga than the remaining 99.8& of the world population.
Now of course we Yidden have always (unfortunately) experienced our own “deviants” throughout our long exile – be they the Tzedukim, Karaites, Reform or Zionists.
Seth the Israeli Yid,
I don’t think your evaluation of Touro failing to teach business etiquette is correct.
A Torah Yid
Yes, how dare someone obsess over Shomer Shabbos, eating kosher, or maintaing tzinius?
If thats your view of halacha, the Reform share your philosophy. ALL halachas, tzinius and otherwise, are the responsibility of every Jew, man and woman.
feivel, Thanks for your point. My understanding is that the obligation to inform the person that they are sinning (i.e. by violating tzinius) is incumbant on you unless you are certain that the person doing the aveira will not listen (and will continue doing their aveira.) If there is even a slight possibility they will heed your advise, I understand that you are obligated to point out what they are doing wrong.
While the point may be a good one, it must also be recognized it is not for everyone.
If someone is mechallel tzinius, the obligation on her fellow Yid to inform her of her errant ways, is no less than if she were to be mechallel Shabbos. One must inform her.
tvt – Klal Yisroel, individually AND as a whole, ARE innately superior. We all indeed must work to improve ourselves, but a Jewish baby, the moment he or she is born, is on a far higher level than any nochri will ever be.
Pashuteh – We are comparing ourselves to the Umas Haolam, and the tumah that permeates those nations, not between ourselves.July 21, 2008 1:27 pm at 1:27 pm in reply to: The greatest financial supporter of Torah Jewry in the world #634030
Hakatan’s points are self-explanatory common sense. (An d obviously correct.)
Tzinius, like Shabbos, is a HALACHIC issue. If someone violates tzinius, EVERY person, man or woman, has a HALACHIC OBLIGATION to kindly inform the perpetrator that they are in violation of halacha (unless they know with absolute certainty that the tzinius violator will refuse to listen and continue violating the Torah.)
Let us not fear the truth. And the truth be told Yidden are superior to all.
Yes, in politically correct America such truths hurt the liberal ear. But the truth shall prevail.July 17, 2008 2:13 pm at 2:13 pm in reply to: Out Of The Mailbag: (Bungalow Colony Binge Drinking) #619590
“You would think that it is a nice Yeshivish crowd with responsible adults playing with their kids. It truly is one of the nicest bungalow colony scenes that I have ever seen (and I have seen many). From the time the men start rolling in on Thursday evening until they are all out on Monday afternoon, all but one hour are a true Kiddush Hashem and I am proud to be a part of it.”
Baloney. Obviously from what follows in your article, this deceptive description of the colony being “a true Kiddush Hashem”, etc. is plain hogwash.
Tsiz gut tzi zan ah Yid, tsiz gut tzi zan ah Yid!
Laws relating to hitchhiking or pedestrian travel on highways in New York are similar to the Uniform Vehicle Code (UVC), except where it comes to the New York State Thruway.
What this means is: It is technically legal to hitchhike from the shoulder of a road or an on-ramp if no sign is posted prohibiting pedestrians. When it comes to the Thruway- which includes the major highways of I-87, I-90 and I-95- it is not only illegal to hitchhike the shoulder, but also near the entrance to these highways. A hitchhiker must stand outside of the Thruway property.
Read the exact wording of related laws below…
New York State Vehicle and Traffic Law:
Sec. 1156. Pedestrians on roadways.
(a) Where sidewalks are provided and they may be used with safety it shall be unlawful for any pedestrian to walk along and upon an adjacent roadway.
(b) Where sidewalks are not provided any pedestrian walking along and upon a highway shall when practicable walk only on the left side of the roadway or its shoulder facing traffic which may approach from the opposite direction. Upon the approach of any vehicle from the opposite direction, such pedestrian shall move as far to the left as is practicable.
Sec. 1157. Pedestrians soliciting rides, or business.
(a) No person shall stand in a roadway for the purpose of soliciting a ride, or to solicit from or sell to an occupant of any vehicle.
(c) No person shall occupy any part of a state highway, except in a city or village, in any manner for the purpose of selling or soliciting.
(Legal definition of roadway below)
Part 102. LIMITATIONS ON USE OF THRUWAY SYSTEM
The solicitation of a ride, commonly known as hitchhiking, or stopping any vehicle for the purpose of picking up or discharging a hitchhiker, on any portion of the Thruway system, including toll plazas, is prohibited. Loitering in or about the toll plazas or any other portion of the Thruway system, for the purpose of hitchhiking or for any other purpose, is prohibited.
jphone – The reward you’ll get for that one ride is immeasurable!
BTW afaik, in most areas it is NOT illegal to hitchike.
the SAFARI in Mogadishu, Somalia
nice african cuisineJuly 8, 2008 3:50 pm at 3:50 pm in reply to: Out Of The Mailbag: (Cautionary Story About Hotels) #650056
The perils of going to a “frum hotel.” Oy. The perils of going to a “frum hotel.” When will people learn?
Mine is home sweet home.
How does your home compare to ANY restaurant?
why not find another position?
mdlevine – Save your time and disregard it. The Journal (lohud) clearly supports these rabid anti-semites and any effort you expend is bound to be futile.
Secondly, who cares? There are many anti-semitic websites out there, lohud is just one of them.
kitzur_dot_net – Just a technical note: its not yet in our hands.
chesedname – What I think you are referring to, is that such a “sold on condition not to copy” is a contract. So if the media buyer breaks the contract and copies it, the only recourse available al pi din to the seller/producer (i.e. the other side of the contract holder), is to demand the contract be reversed (i.e. the buyer returns the media and the seller/producer provides a refund for the purchase price.)
WolfishMusings – There may be other reasons that prohibit such activity. As I keep saying, ask a shaila.
WolfishMusings – As I said, it differs amongst poiskim. Some poiskim may rule that based on “taking away business” from the content creator (i.e. you would’ve purchased the product if you hadn’t copied it), that it should not be done.
Rav Eliyashev holds that dina dmalchusa dina does not apply on issues of ben adam lchaveiroi (between two Jewish people); its applicable on issues between man and government (i.e. taxes.)