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It’s an amazing spiritual experience. To go to shul and learn by yourself, or with a chavrusa, or listen to a shiur, and then daven vasikin to me felt mamesh like Yom Kippur. Ok It’s not always easy, but I felt it paid off.
@Defend Chabad:”whose job it is to censor and fact check opinions that are submitted.” So know we’re going to start “Fact Checking Opinions”?! That’s a new one….
@Joseph, “MM: That’s incorrect both historically and factually. The rabbinical establishment didn’t oppose their founding. Decades later the establishment in Lithuania came out opposed. But that was long after the Chasidim were already established and were effectively already part of the rabbinical establishment.” Right. There were put in Cherem AFTER they were firmly grounded. Right, right…
@TheWizard: “As such, it would appear to be quite difficult for anyone to rise against the rabbinical establishment”. Actually, the Chasidim did so quite successfully.
“Why was it so important to have Moshe Rabbeinu?” Because he was a Navi who spoke directly to Hashem. He went to Shomayim and came back. do you know anyone who could do that in 2019? There’s a ‘Hester Panim’, if you didn’t get the memo.
@RebbitzenGoldenpickanicerscreenname, “But the Chofetz Chaim is only followed when it fits with our lifestyle!”
Just in case you don’t know, that’s not how Halacha works. There’s no “Supreme Authority” that decides all the Halachos. They’re all up for debate, and have been for Millenia. Klal Yisrael is not a Hasidic Dynasty with a “Supreme Leader” over it, that decides all the aspects of daily living. We go from Tanach, on to Mishna, then to Talmud, Then to meforshim and poskim, e.g. Rabbeinu Tam, Rambam, Tur, Etc. And FYI, Reb Moshe was Mattir Electric Shavers, and so was Rav Belsky. Furthermore, in Shulchan Halevi, page 127, Rav Belsky argues that had the Chofetz Chaim seen our Shavers, he would be Mattir it.Rebbetzin, that’s because the Yeshiva\Litvish world as we know it today was formulated by the “Avi HaYeshivos”, Reb Chaim of Volozhin.
“Teffilin on Chol Hamoed”. Actually, Rebbetzin, The G”RA held NOT to put on teffilin on Chol Hamoed.
@TheFakeMaven, correct, but Bar Yochai and The Ari weren’t put under Cherem. Also, you seem to be unfamiliar with the history behind Nefesh HaChaim. Reb Chaim saw that the Tanya misconstrued a lot of ideas, which is why he wrote a N. H. Which is basically a refutation of the Tanya. And on his deathbed, he said that it should be the first Sefer to be published, so that people should know the truth of the Torah.
@Anyusernameopen?, actually, the name Misnagdim came from you guys, And, “no Ruach Hakodesh these days”, BTW, THE GAON lived like 220 years ago. Also, I’m not Mizrachi’s biggest fan either, but it’s the content, don’t shoot the messenger.
“Just be a simple Jew, you have one G-D, you have the Shulchan Aruch, you have all the laws. You learn Chumash, you learn Gemara, you learn Rambam, you learn Shulchan Aruch, you learn Mussar. This is what you do. Why do you want to be all the time unique and special? why to invent new things, because you’re bored? What is this? There was no Judaism 3,100 years before this nonsense started? Rabbi Akiva didn’t have him (a Rebbe), so he couldn’t connect to Hashem? The Ari HaKadosh couldn’t connect to Hashem? There were all born in the wrong generation? For 3,100 years, all these holy people, they couldn’t connect to Hashem because there was no rabbi Ploney Almony? Do you really believe this nonsense?” – Rabbi Yosef Mizrachi (exerpted from 7:56 Do NOT idol worship any rabbi)
@Anyusernameopen?, “why the Vilna Gaon put them in cherem….him being told lashon horo”, don’t you think that maybe, just maybe, THE GAON had Ruach Hakodesh? “Anyone who is Mevazeh Talmidei Chachaimim. When did this happen?” Uh, like right when you guys started. Read any literature on this matter, and you will see that they belittled Torah Scholars and Scholarship. It was written in the Vilna Cherem (1772), and I quote “They belittle the study of the Torah, and repeatedly claim that one should not study much, nor deeply regret one’s transgressions.” Also, “Chabad may not learn Mussar as a subject but Chassidus is full of mussar albeit a diff. style then what you’re used to.” Mesorah, much?
@TheFakeMaven, I actually have read it, and do bring it up, so…..
“Lo Sochlu Al HaDam”-Parshas Kedoshim 19:26. The Gemara in Berachos 10a and Sanhedrin 63a interpret this to mean not to eat before Davening. And yes, @Anyusernameopen?, while there is a heter Beshaas Hatchak, aren’t you the ones who are supposed to go “Beyond the letter of the law”? A.K.A. “Chassidim”? Also, I didn’t mean that you don’t learn ANYTHING besides Chassidus, but rather that you have COMPLETELY done away with any Mussar whatsoever. And you’re right, Doing away with Sof Zman Tefilla isn’t exclusive to Chabad, but rather Chassidus as a whole. (And then you still wonder why you were put under Cherem, when the Rambam clearly Paskens in Hilchos Talmud Torah, that anyone who is Mevazeh Talmidei Chachamim needs to be put under Cherem.)
@LerntminTayrah, actually, the reason that the GR”A didn’t want to meet with the Ba’al Ha’Tanya is that he put them under Cherem, why would he violate is own Cherem?
“Lo sochlu al hadom”- Parshas Kedoshim 19:26. The Gemara in Berachos 10a and Sanhedrin 63a interprets this to mean not to eat before Davening. @anyusernameopen?, While there is a heter to eat before davening Beshaas Hatchak, aren’t you supposed to be the ones to go “Beyond the letter of the law”, A.K.A. Chassidim? Also, you’re right. Davening late is not just Chabad, but rather Chassidus as a whole has done away with Sof Zman Tefilla, as even Young Israel has an earlier Minyan than the Chassidim. Also, I didn’t say that you don’t learn other things, but rather that you don’t learn Mussar.
“If you don’t like the way you grew up, you could tweak it a little, as long as you stay faithful to Halakha.” – Rabbi Benzion Klatzko / Good examples of Halakhos that they don’t follow would be: Not eating before Davening, caring about Sof Zman Tefilla, Learning Mussar- or ANYTHING that isn’t Chassidus (and yes I know that’s a minority, but they’re very vocal, just like Meshichists), and being careful with the learning and teaching of Kabbalah. If you follow Halakha, you should be fine.
This question has bothered me for YEARS, which is why I have scoured Tanach, Shas, Rambam, Tur, Beis Yosef, Rema, G’ra, Chaye Adam, Aruch Hashulchan, Mishna Berurah, and Igros Moshe, and I have come up with NOTHING!
@Joseph, good point, but wouldn’t that go for literally any other food that is TECHNICALLY kosher, yet doesn’t have a hechsher, e.g. dried fruit?
@Talmidchochom, I absolutely agree. Some people speak of Reb Moshe zt’l as a rav in a small town that came up with a heter. He was THE GADOL HADOR in America! And the Igros Moshe is a masterpiece! Have some respect!
@bk613, cholov stam is not a Modern Orthodox Thing, plenty of litvishe people eat it.
@Gadolhadorah, FYI, The OU has an article on this question, in which Rav Belsky CLEARLY PASKENS that the heter still applies today! if you want to see it for yourself, it’s called: Rav Moshe’s heter of cholov stam revisited.