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DY: No, I think it’s them telling us it’s someone talking to himself under multiple account names.
Either way the point would be not to take him seriously
Sam2ParticipantTeaching kids precise matter-of-fact Haskafos is the easiest way to make them entirely intolerant towards other valid beliefs.
Teaching kids different Shittos in Hashkafa is the easiest way to accidentally make people Apikorsim.
Sam2ParticipantPBA: Interesting. I probably believe (depending on where someone’s opinion came from) that one can be pro-Palestinian without being an anti-Semite. By all accounts (that I’ve heard) Mandela treated the Jews in his country entirely fairly. So he wasn’t a Sonei Yisrael. He just had an unfortunate opinion on Israel. That doesn’t make him someone we can’t respect. We just need a caveat with that respect.
Sam2Participant147: So having done something wrong means he can’t be right on anything ever for the rest of his life?
Sam2ParticipantMods: Not that I generally believe in censoring people’s opinions (where they are allowed to be said), but can we tone down Popa’s? It won’t look good to people reading.
Sam2ParticipantI think Newt Gingrich said it best.
Sam2ParticipantDY: I don’t know the Siman offhand. It’s by where he says what to do if one is Boel Ishto Niddah B’shogeg. And then see what the Achronim (I think quoted in the Pischei T’shuvah) say there.
Sam2ParticipantDY: It’s a Rama in Hilchos Niddah. 🙂
Sam2ParticipantDY: How far do we take that when it conflicts with Bechira? That’s always bothered me. I don’t have any good answer.
Sam2ParticipantLF: On the day we Leined “Ka’asher Yeireid HaGeshem V’hasheleg”
Sam2ParticipantWell, one of them is. 😉
Sam2ParticipantDY: Nah. It’s probably a Chumra that a total of 2 people on earth keep. It is interesting, though.
Sam2ParticipantWho here was Machmir not to eat meat (or drink wine) last night because it’s a Leil before a Ta’anis?
Sam2ParticipantDY: Yeah, been busy. Just check in once every few days and haven’t really been following any full threads. I’m a bit overworked ATM.
Sam2ParticipantDY: It said “Beiah” at first. I was making a joke.
EDIT: And now it’s Hebrew. Someone’s having a laugh and I’m very much appreciating it.
You’re welcome.
Sam2ParticipantPBA: ROFL. Amazing move by whatever mod edited that. Well done.
December 10, 2013 7:22 pm at 7:22 pm in reply to: Traumatizing Children with Horrific Tales #1006147Sam2ParticipantWIY: Most early folk tales (that modern “fairy tales” are based off of) are quite gruesome. That was normal in peasant life. It represented taking down the establishment. French and German folk tales are the most gruesome, with English and Italian being tamer. Hans Christian Anderson tales are most similar to our Disney-fied fairy tales today.
rebyidd: That’s okay. In the original French folk tale (“La Belle.. La Monster, if I recall the title correctly), he married a dozen women then ate them after the wedding, which is why he was cursed to be the Beast.
Sam2ParticipantPBA: You misspelled the name of the Masechta. 😛
Sam2ParticipantMy Rav Paskens that it’s Assur to get genetic testing (Bimchilas K’vodo, it’s the only ridiculous Shittah that I’ve heard from him). The first thing I did when my Rav told me I can Pasken most Shailahs for myself is get tested.
December 6, 2013 3:57 am at 3:57 am in reply to: Your Teachers Were Also Wrong About Other Stuff #991319Sam2ParticipantSaying the words “Hashem S’fasai Siftach Ufi Yagid T’hilasecha” while taking 3 steps back and 3 steps forward.
Sam2ParticipantJewish Source: See the Rambam Hilchos Krias Shma Perek 2.
Sam2ParticipantWIY: I think it’s a nice idea, but T’fillah is the wrong example of it.
December 4, 2013 6:24 pm at 6:24 pm in reply to: Tal Umatar will never fall on Zos Chanuka ever again – by a drunken popa #991336Sam2ParticipantSF: See T’shuvos HaRashba 1:9 (maybe 1:10). It seems to argue on Rambam Hilchos T’shuvah at the end of Perek 9, if I recall correctly (maybe Perek 10?).
Sam2ParticipantPBA: S’char Mitzvos B’hai Alma Leika isn’t Apikorsus.
Sam2ParticipantHaLeiVi: Right, I read that line to exclude a Ger Toshav, who the Rambam says can’t exist nowadays. Anyway, we should see what it says in the SH”A. (L’ma’aseh, if the seller is a Christian there’s no issue either.)
Sam2Participantscroller: Whoa! You added a period in the Gemara there. I think it reads that the person is a Tzurva Mei’rabannan and is known to never lie. Or, at least, it can be read that way. Anyway, it’s very unclear why that is a necessity in that case anyway. We could easily say that it’s just an Orcha D’milsa that someone so honest would have to be a Yeshivah student.
Sam2Participant42: There is a famous Tosfos (I think in Niddah) that, in response to the possibility of saying Cherev Harei Hu K’chalal by Tumas Kohanim, R’ Chaim HaKohen says, “Eizeh Hu Bayis Asher Tivnu Li”. Any metal utensil that was in an Ohel HaMeis would then be Assur for a Kohen to be in an Ohel with. This is brought down in the Nosei Keilim in Hilchos Aveilus (don’t remember exactly where).
HaLeiVi: The Rambam says any Goy can be M’vatel an A”Z. The word “Ovdeha” (which is what I assume you are referring to) does not appear in most Girsaos of the Rambam and doesn’t make sense because it contradicts what the Rambam says a few Perakim later. I guess it would be very Achronish to try and be M’chalek between a Goy Oved Avodah Zarah and a Stam Goy, but that’s untenable because the Rambam holds that, from our perspective, all Goyim are Ovdei Avodah Zarah (because he says we can’t be M’kabel Ger Toshav anymore so there is no way for an AKU”M to get rid of his Chezkas Oveid Avodah Zarah).
Sam2Participantcoffee addict: You said that Goyim don’t have Tumah because Tumah is the absence of Kedushah, which they don’t have. That’s what I said was horribly incorrect.
Sam2ParticipantA voice of reason: It’s a fairly good Makor. It’s talking about paying a tax to the non-Jewish king’s army. All Yeshivah students (I believe the Lashon is Tzurva MeiRabannan, not Talmid Chacham) are Pattur from the tax. You can argue about whether or not a tax is equivalent to fighting in the army. But the source is a good Makor.
Simcha: I thought so. I looked it up and it’s actually 7b-8a. Sorry.
Sam2ParticipantCoffee addict: It’s not at all Pashut why those are Muttar. But even if you hold that Meisi Akum aren’t M’tamei B’ohel (P’shat in the Mechaber seems to be that we are Machmir L’chatchilah but it’s just a Chumra), everyone agrees that Min HaTorah they are still M’tamei B’maga Uv’masa. So your logic was incredibly flawed.
Not to pick on you personally, but this is why it’s bad when people who don’t know the Halachos try to give S’varos. The S’vara might make sense. But it’s completely K’negged Halachah. (Similar to the Chabad reason not to sleep in Sukkah.)
Sam2ParticipantHaLeiVi: I’m pretty sure the Rambam in A”Z (Perek 6 or 7 or so) says that a non-Jew selling another non-Jew’s A”Z is an automatic Bittul.
Coffee addict: Your second point is absolutely wrong and your first point makes an assumption that you don’t know is true.
Sam2ParticipantBava Basra 7a says they don’t have to pay a tax that goes to fund the army. People make the extension from there, though it’s very unclear that all Rishonim would agree to that.
Sam2ParticipantThere should be no Issur whatsoever here. Another non-Jew selling them constitutes Bittul. Meisi Akum aren’t Tofeis things with them as Issurei Hana’ah. There is no issue of Tumas Kohanim because we aren’t Machmir for a Cherev Harei Hu K’chalal by Kohanim (Eizeh Bayis Asher Tivnu Li). Buying these should be completely Muttar.
Sam2ParticipantB”N I’ll answer after Shabbos.
Sam2ParticipantJewish source: That’s a Machlokes Rishonim.
November 22, 2013 7:20 am at 7:20 am in reply to: Withholding a get vs. Withholding children #988334Sam2ParticipantDY: I don’t disagree. But we can’t say that. Because once we legitimize that as a possibility, it will become the standard fallback for everyone who capriciously denies visitation. So we must say that everyone allows visitation and that we need to trust the legal system.
November 22, 2013 4:05 am at 4:05 am in reply to: Withholding a get vs. Withholding children #988331Sam2ParticipantIf they’re actually being abused, you have a friend/neighbor/someone there with him. Everything, especially in these situations, is subjective. Everyone thinks they’re right. So, while in theory some of these things might be viable in extreme situations, we certainly have no right to condone any such action. If she can’t stop it legally, it’s probably because the kids aren’t actually being abused. If they are, Children’s Services gets them away from him very, very quickly.
November 22, 2013 3:23 am at 3:23 am in reply to: Withholding a get vs. Withholding children #988329Sam2ParticipantDY: Exactly. Who would defend perpetrating one of the worst possible Avlas that can be done against another human being as “leverage”? Give the Get. Let him see his kids.
LAB: No. If he’s abusive, you call the police and have visitation rights rescinded legally. You don’t do it yourself. You have no right.
Sam2ParticipantDY: Don’t some read Rashi as saying that it allows you to enjoy the food more?
Sam2ParticipantM’shatkin Oso?
November 22, 2013 1:08 am at 1:08 am in reply to: Withholding a get vs. Withholding children #988323Sam2ParticipantRefusing to give a Get is a horrible Avla and one of the worst forms of abuse that can be perpetrated.
Withholding a person’s right and ability to see their children is a horrible Avla and one of the worst forms of abuse that can be perpetrated.
I honestly tremble that one can use either to justify the other. Give the Get. Let the person see his children. I don’t see any overlap.
Sam2ParticipantNot that I’m complaining, but aren’t movie references technically against the CR’s rules?
Sam2ParticipantJfem: It’s a G’zeiras Hakasuv that the Chodesh is whatever Beis Din says, even in error.
Sam2ParticipantWell played, DY.
Sam2ParticipantNechomah: The Chumras HaRama of Mesorah is Davka by birds, not animals.
Twisted: I think everyone holds nowadays that had they discovered that the zebu can cross-breed with a cow before the Chazon Ish was Niftar, that he would have been Modeh that it was 100% Kosher.
Sam2ParticipantHaLeiVi: If we combined 2 of the answers (that it has to be inside a separate Guf and that it is invisible to the naked eye) maybe we have a strong Teretz.
Sam2ParticipantIt should be Kosher as long as it has the Simanim. Can it cross-breed with a cow or a bison? If so, then it’s clear that it’s Kosher.
Sam2ParticipantDY: Whoever wrote that answer will have a serious Din V’cheshbon to give for his unfounded and false attack on the Pachad Yitzchak, even if he didn’t mean it.
I always thought that P’shat in the Gemara is like he said, though (based on Rashi) that it is Nivra B’guf Ha’adam and therefore isn’t P’reh Ur’veh. That raises more questions, though, for example could you then kill a wasp inside a fruit that has never left the fruit, etc.? His second answer also is obviously wrong because based on that it should be Muttar to kill any bird on Shabbos (and a Par’ush as well, which is also false). His third answer is the common one from R’ Shlomo Zalman and the Michtav Mei’Eliyah.
Sam2ParticipantDY: I have heard R’ Schachter and several others quote it from him. I haven’t seen it inside.
Sam2ParticipantDY: That’s interesting. How do you respond to killing a louse, then? Because microscopic eggs don’t count as being Pareh V’ravei? Some other Teretz?
I don’t know if I really have a Shittah in this Inyanim. I don’t think I have to. R’ Schachter and R’ Shlomo Zalman hold that Chazal relied on their sceintists, so I do get upset when people call that Shittah K’firah. But I don’t know if I subscribe to any particular one.
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