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Did you hear that story from Rav Belsky? He said it over in a Shiur a few years ago.
I wish I could say names but an aquaintance’s friend was recently in a restaurant and he was shocked to be served a non Jewish wine! He called the Rav Hamachshir and was told, ‘Oh, well you were a Shogeg, y’know’.
Sure, just gimme time to set up the hammers.
Real said that based on the sub-title, which was put there by a moderator who did see the IP.
And again, the IP does not tell you that it is the same person. In my case, I know that anyone using the same service as me will have the same IP. However, it does pass along an HTTP header “forwarded_for” with my own current IP.
Any scenario comes before Chilull Shabbos. In truth, I don’t even get the Taava to post here on Shabbos when there is nobody to converse with, besides the fact that your post doesn’t go up.
Syag, nobody is putting down the moderators or Jothar.
Also, if you really read through this whole conversation you would notice that they are referring to a Frum-content-posting poster, and perhaps a specific one.
Unlike last time, I cannot suggest that the accusation is unfounded. But I do say to learn from experience and be careful not to jump to conclusions because of proofs. Not every anomaly gets understood right away, but not understanding something shouldn’t cause you to pass judgement and embarrass someone.
And, if indeed there would be injustice or bullying going on here then it would, in fact, be everyone’s duty to dispute it. In the past, you expressed a view to the contrary, but I cannot fathom it. If you want, you can start a new conversation about killing a murderer or making a Ganov pay double or yelling at those who talk during Davenning or any such phenomena.
Soliek, you’re right. In reality it is not Kesiva.
Real, you and I have been through this. You had a close up view of the accuracy of the publicized accusations. And yet, you are still willing to jump along and hurt others!?
Stam, the difference would be that it usually stays in the server forever, rendering it a Ksiva that is Kayama.
Smart, I wouldn’t jump on the bandwagon accusing people of wild stuff on someone else’s say-so. Especially since we should know by now not to do that.
One more question: Are you talking about two posts by the same screenname or two different screennames that you are sure belong to one person? An accusation of Chilul Shabbos is no light matter. Don’t base it on piecy evidence. You are actually Mechuyav to try to imagine different scenarios to explain the strange phenomenon.
So far I really don’t believe that there is Chilul Shabbos going on here. I just hope it gets straightened out before it gets even more crooked.
I wasn’t talking about the language. But, you answered my question.
We had a shared account here in the past. That might explain it. There might be more scenarios that we can’t think of. Does this poster post Yiddish content?
I’m glad you are being more discreet and cautious before acting, this time.
Well, I play a mouth harp (harmonica), also a hammer activated, 7 octave, chromatic harp.
Eiruvin 41b
It’s a Machlokes Tana’im.
I wouldn’t put much thought to it, considering the other great detective work we’ve witnessed.
I don’t play the tuba, but I can play in the tuba.
I play the j2me SoundMachine.
To be in your family one would have to pass the ‘bar’ exam.
If it works for Sakana it should work on purpose, too.
If I understand correctly, your other point is that you can’t prove Maamid Har Sinai unless you already believe in it. True, that once you believe the Torah you don’t have to prove every detail in it. But, perhaps there is a proof to Maamid Har Sinai that doesn’t draw on other Emunos. That will be a proof to the Amitus Hatorah.
There are plenty of proofs out there, but you have to care enough to be honest with yourself. Paroh managed to laugh off some pretty solid proof with hair-splitting excuses. Nothing can force someone who refuses to believe, to believe. But, to a believer, many things can offer a boost and protection, or shock absorber.
Don’t fool yourself. Emuna needs constant boosting. On this forum itself you can see how, during a crises, people lose faith or get angry at the One in charge. There is no room to tease yourself for the sake of perhaps getting S’char.
BTW I tested the ip using a dnsquery once I blocked it, and it didn’t work. Also, most CR links refer to http://www.theyeshivaworld.com and would not work once blocked.
Do you mean that your lookup software returned your own IP? I was talking about getting the IP from a website that does that service.
I have a website on my own computer without any network, and I want to use something fancier than ‘localhost’. Also, I have multiple sites running. Using the HOSTS file is definitely the best and easiest way.
I never heard that about malware using it. I guess another benefit of using it myself, is to get to check who else is lurking about. What I did see once was the proxy of the browser set to local IP with some funny port. A friend of mine, after running anti-malware, couldn’t browse anymore. After looking through the settings, I noticed that proxy, a vestige of the virus (I hope).
People have done Aveiros after the greatest revalations. People witnessed real Nevua and yet mocked it. Don’t worry about your Bechira.
It is not your job to make yourself Nisyonos. Hashem made the Yetzer Hara, your job is to fight it. Remember what happened to David Hamelech when he asked for a Nesayon.
By Avraham Avinu it says Vehe’emin Bashem Vayachshive’ha Lo Tzedaka, although he just heard the Havtacha from Hashem. Emuna is a Midda that doesn’t depend on blindness. It has to do with steadfastness. Surely you should have Emuna with or without any proofs, but why shouldn’t you build on it? Emuna is the unmoving loyalty and bond. That comes after knowledge. It is partly based on what you know but is mainly a Midda.
I’m not advocating pilosophical discussion or even scientific, necessarily. Build on your Emuna with stories or with Torah or once in a while some proofs that are out there.
The point of your second paragraph still evades me.
Herr Gavra, is that supposed to be a response?
You wrote two conflicting paragraphs. The first one seems to say that you won’t even pay attention to a proof because you have a Nesayon, or want one (?). Then you seem to be saying that it is too obvious to need proof. So, um, where’s your much needed Nesayon!?
I didn’t say anything about you. I am merely walking your point to the end to point out what is wrong with it. The Navi told him to ask for a Ness to cause him to believe in Hashem. His response was that he doesn’t want to ‘bother’ Hashem. He was feigning Emuna Pshuta.
Emuna means to believe. Seeing is believing, too. If you have a chance to strengthen your Emuna with stories of Gedolim and Nissim, or with proofs, how can you turn it down!?
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I cannot prove Maamad Har Sinai but if I could prove it, than it wouldn’t be Emunah.
This reminds me of Achaz, who responded to Yeshaya’s request that he pick any miracle, that he doesn’t want to, Chas V’shalom, bother Hashem.
That’s because the sax has a fuller sound, closer to brass. The clarinet is a thin sound that has to be backed up, with other instruments or electronic echo.
Why should I be explaining why Christians are wrong? They are not the current threat.
How about getting a tuba that’s in move in condition? If you wear a skirt, why don’t you play bagpipe? (Not when I’m around, though.)
On a more serioso notation, a clarinet has more room for expression of feeling. A saxiphone is easier to blow.
I once wrote a script to give the results how many times it would give you that sentence depending on any given dimensions.
If the sound bothers you, you can move under the tracks. That’ll take care of it.
About u’vchukoseihem, we’re not talking about drashos. The p’shat, according to everyone, is an issur based in an avodah zarah concern.
I’m not speaking Drashos, either. I’m talking about ramifications. It is put there as an introduction to arayos, which were common in the nations with which we had contact. However, the meaning of the words itself are not lost on us, and it means not to follow their customs. If not for Arayos the Torah would say it anyhow but not there. This is very common in the Torah.
Otherwise we wouldn’t be able to limit the issur. Because the other consideration would still apply.
The Torah says, Toeva. That is where Chazal learn it. In fact, perhaps it can be a Raya to the Rambam. If it were simply a Lav to prevent mingling and Arayos we wouldn’t need a Pasuk to tell us that it doesn’t apply to that which doesn’t promote mingling.
I implied this in my first post, and I agree.
I read your complete comment but wrote this too, because of a slight difference. You were saying that they in general they worshipped idols so that they can do as they please — no idol cares about your behaviour towards anyone. I was adding that the rites themselves were very often made of lust.
It depends on the hour of the day. Sure there’s a way to calculate it but first get me the calculations from the zmanim sites.
It is clear that he holds that the main reason is that it was a pagan rite. He only added that he has another reason. The fact that the Gemara mentions Toeva as the confines of the Issur doesn’t necessarily put it in that category. The Rambam happens to say that many pagan rites were made up to satisfy lust, and therefore often contain very undesirable details. This might help put the Hagdara in perspective. The Chinuch mentions the two reasons for the Issur.
Regarding Uvchukoseihem, this is not the only place in the Torah where you will find this concept of a phrase that teaches us a Halacha put somewhere because of its Pshat connotation. We learn Davar Hanikna Miyad Leyad from a Pasuk that’s actually referring to Karka. Over here, the Pasuk says not to follow the nations. This in itself is a Halacha, that is related to Avoda Zara, and it is also put there as a Hakdama to the Parsha of Orayos. It has no practical purpose concerning Arayos.
I use my HOST file for all my local sites. Why would you call it a relic? Anyhow, it wouldn’t help for me. I would go to dnsquery and get Yeshiva World’s IP and use that. But you can use a proxy and have it block the CR while letting the news page.
Sof Davar, many peole believe the history in the Torah and dismiss any reference to Hashem and Nevua. You’d have to fight that issue first. The common attitude is to lump everything into one pot: Amalek, Islam killings, Crusades and Inquisition. To us, the main difference is between truth and falseness, but to those who don’t believe it has to be explained.
It is important to make the distinction clear. Amalek was always our enemy, and a barbaric on at that. Take a look at what Shmuel told Agag.
We are not merely saying that anything immoral becomes moral if Hashem tells you to do it. On the contrary, Hit can’t be that Hashem will command something immoral. We are saying that in the justified war against Amalek, who was always our bitter enemy, we were told by the One who knows them best not to leave anyone alive.
Health brings up another great point: Judge people on their actions, not their books. When we complain of anti-Semetism it is about killings, beatings and discrimination, not about liturature. We don’t complain about Islam because of what is written. We talk about what they do.
We don’t kill people, and haven’t done so for thousands of years. Before discussing our liturature (which we already did, above) look at actions. Which European nation didn’t engage in mass murder in the last millenia, or even century?
If someone is ashamed of our heritage, who are they trying to measure it against, the Cossaks of the east or the many Crusaders of the west? How did the early colonists react when they met the Native Americans? (The first Spanish settlers — in their prime cultural moment — wrote back to their king that the Indians are so nice that it would be very easy to take them as slaves.) How did the Brits treat the Irish or all of their colonies, besides for pillaging national treasures and displaying them at home as a sign of western culture? The list goes on.
The only time I heard of ABBA was from LatmaTV. T’was very funny.
Feif, how does it go again?
As for being chosen, that is one great misconception. Anyone who believes he found the true path to eternity will therefore come to the conclusion that everyone else is wrong. That is why other religions always try to force or convince the world to join.
We never did that, for the simple reason that we look at it very differently. We were chosen to be Hashem’s servants. Technically, anyone who feels that it is a good thing can join. If not, how can they be insulted for not being included in something they don’t want. It’s like Esav complaining about the Bechora being taken, although he didn’t want it.
You say:
You seem to think that the fact that it is not juxtaposed together with Arayos is proof that the Rambam held this is some kind of chok.
But I said:
I think I saw the Rambam say explicitly that the reason for the Issur is that the early Ovdei Avodas Kochavim used to mix the clothing purposely.
What I was referring to is: http://hebrewbooks.org/pdfpager.aspx?req=9463&st=&pgnum=91
What you ask about Bechukoseihem is actually the Torah’s preface to Arayos all the time — not to follow the actions we’ve witnessed in Mitzraim and Kenaan.
Favor: Most often, I view the CR with my phone and can therefore not read the Hebrew characters. When addressing me, please try to transliterate.
What bothers many people is the issue of Amalek. There are two things to keep in mind. First of all, if their maker tells us to kill them there shouldd be nothing at all wrong with that. Morality dictates the value of life. Life is sanctified by the One who embued it. He tells us to kill them so it is perfectly moral to do so.
It becomes confusing when you are asked, well everybody kills in the name of G-d. The answer is simple: they are all liars. I know that I won’t convince you that we are saying the truth and the others are making it up, but you can agree that if you would know that G-d said to do it, it would be a moral thing to do.
The reason we all want freedom of religion to exist is because no religion is obvious, and history shows that anyone can do whatever he wants in the name of religion. However, in times of open Nissim and Nevua and in the days of Moshiach, when it will be a matter of fact that Hashem rules the world, freedom of religion would make no more sense than freedom of your neighbor’s posessions. Until then, rest assured, we aren’t killing any Amaleikim. Therefore, we will never be violating morality.
The second thing to keep in mind is that in early times a war wasn’t a hired or drafted army fighting its leader’s politics. Everybody, young and old, men and women alike, fought however they can. We see this somewhat in the Palistinian Arabs. The Sefer Hayashar describes how the women of the 7 nations would stand on the roofs and throw things down.
This is besides the fact that one side of the city would be left open for those who wish to escape.
In summary, these things were never carried out when it was not moral to do so.
How do you explain them to yourself?
When spinning it upside down, I spin it counter-clockwise. In general I am counter-clockwise.
It’s not an offshoot of Klaim.
It is not a paranormal concept. It is based on psychology. However, many of those that are into it are also into palm reading, which is a paranormal concept.
The idea behind it is that your personality shows out in all your actions. The way you walk says a lot about you, as does the door, coat hanger, pen color, paper size or seat row, that you choose. Something as open as a handwriting has so much room for your personality to make its path.
Bizet’s Carmen, Swan Lake, Nutcracker, Beethoven’s 7th symphony and many more.
The secret to happiness: Whenever a Bochur feels like it is too long, just take another coffee. If you are in 9th grade and they don’t let, then it becomes an adventure so it is even more fun and a greater boost to continue learning Geshmak.
Thanks, Choc. That’s my first point! Hhow do I add that to my profile?
Luckily, I don’t need my shirt color to make me an individual. I don’t feel like a sheep in the herd. I have and voice opinions based on what I decided and how I judged.
Actually, the OP sounds so familiar and cliche-ish that it makes me wonder how common actual individualism is in the first place.
I’m pretty sure many more people read than post. I don’t think the ads on this page were meant just for these few common posters. The actual number are easily retrieved by the site owner. Maybe the editor can fill us in.