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You can rely on a non-rabbi Shomer Shabbos Jew who testifies that a food is kosher.May 21, 2010 5:20 pm at 5:20 pm in reply to: What Helps You Learn Better On Shavuos, With A Chavrusa, Or By Yourself ? #1155028
IMHO a chavrusa is unquestionably better.
As far as squeak’s second question, Gedolim themselves were wont to attribute powers to other Gedolim — both of their and previous generations — that those Gedolim themselves never openly claimed.
squeak: I take it you disagree with my description of the upper bound?
WolfishMusings: You are always welcome to rejoin it. JK
Perhaps you hadn’t realized beforehand that you should have asked. If someone was an onus, I can’t imagine they are chutz lamachne or cannot rectify it (even without moving again.)
Additionally, it seems to me that Rav Moshe’s statement focused on what Gedolei Yisroel already advised, moreso than on what you should be asking of them.
squeak: With the provisio that the advice is binding.
And even then it is certainly possible (if not even likely) that they do possess the ability to divine and identify the underlying causes and nature of the tevva.
[Again, this is my understanding of Rav Moshe’s statement.]
If they are moving within the same general area, I’m not sure how necessary it is to ask if I should move from Avenue R to Avenue S.
WolfishMusings: I think it is common sense that you should ask an Adom Gadol if such and such neighborhood (or city) is appropriate for your family.
TMB, I have a question about the reach of the statement you quoted. Do you think that daas torah means instant understanding of all issues in this world and their causes?
squeak: I don’t think so, but that is only my humble opinion. Nevertheless the statement I quoted didn’t address this point, as it only (seemingly to me) addressed following advice already offered. So if Gedolei Yisroel offered the advice, they clearly did so with “understanding” of the issue in question, and did so with superior wisdom.
I’m not sufficiently knowledgeable to answer the specific question you posed about the shidduch issue.
I have to ask a gadol before I buy a house? (Assuming, of course, I intend to live in it and it’s not for investment.)
WolfishMusings: *Where* to live, I meant as in neighborhood or city, etc.
BTW, as far as voting, Rav Moshe’s quote specifically used that example as you must listen to Gedolei Yisroel if they advise you on political matters.
Sorry, I don’t know how to elaborate on common sense more that as such.
Breakfast is not included. Where to live is.
Then I return to my previous answer. Common sense.
That is situational dependent.
Let’s simplify what Rav Moshe said, a bit.
If Gedolei Yisroel *did* offer advice (with the intention it be binding), follow it.
The above applies even if the aforementioned advice was *not* quote “in their field of expertise.”
Rav Moshe did not mean to ask what you should eat for breakfast in the morning.
ROTFL! If common sense needs elaboration…
Where have I made a contention? I quoted Rav Moshe’s contention.
Feif Un: And how are you privy to all the facts? More likely you are going on third hand information from interested parties, and you are not knowledgeable of all the pertinent background details. Even what you do know may well be half baked information.
Feif Un: Is he of the stature of Rav Moshe?
WolfishMusings: Clearly politics is an example.
WolfishMusings: I think the quote speaks for itself. Do you disagree with Rav Moshe? Or can you quote someone of equal stature of Rav Moshe who disagreed with him on this matter?
Feif Un: IMHO what Reb Moshe said above was referring to people who say things like you just said.
How can someone issue a “psak” if one party wasn’t present?
P.S. I would strongly advise all parties to omit any names or references that would make it obvious to whom they refer — if your point is anything other than theoretical — since you probably know less than half the facts.
yitayningwut: The Torah.org article you cited actually demonstrates Rav Henkin ztv’l agreeing with Reb Moshe ztv’l’s 66″ height (which as mentioned previously is itself a lenient position.)
And WADR to Rabbi Doniel Neustadt shlita, a Young Israel Rov in Ohio, his utilizing Bnei Banim (and irregardless if he is published in Yated or no Yated) as a source provides no additional creditability to R.Y.H. Henkin (the grandson). I actually fully agree with “qa”‘s comment about him. If you would like, check out his seforim, inclding his Teshuva on mixed dancing, see what he says and decide if this is a person you want to quote. Or the funniest Teshuvah he has is about – and I promise I am not making this up – whether you are permitted (yes, permitted!) to say “Zatzal” on the Satmar Rebbe ztv’l, or is it prohibited to say Zatzal on him, since Zatzal would imply that he was a Tzadik. I am not kidding. He really has a lengthy discussion about this.
charliehall: Rav Soloveitchik agreed with Rav Moshe’s psak on the size of the mechitza (i.e. 66″, which is a lenient opinion.) Rav Henkin never published a psak on the minimum size.
WolfishMusings: Like “says who” said, if someone b’shitto says I fully keep 612 Mitzvos with all chumros, but there is one Mitzvah I don’t agree with, he is a rasha and apikorus who has forfeited his chelek in Olam Haboah plain and simple.
If someone fails to keep Shabbos because he was never educated and doesn’t know Shabbos, or if someone doesn’t act as halacha requires during Chazaras HaShatz as a result of not being educated on what halacha requires during Chazaras HaShatz, they are both a tinok shenishba in each of those areas respectively.
As far as the label “frum”, it is just a label. Discard it, as it has no intrinsic value.
SJSinNYC: I believe it has to do with the quantity of available Mitzvos to each.
yitayningwut: I like that answer. And to add to it, you need the person who *can* fulfill the Mitzvah in order for those who cannot to get the schar. (As I seem to recall the concept.)
WolfishMusings: Now edit again to include my edit.
SJSinNYC: Hashem can verify. That’s all that counts.
WolfishMusings: The post in question wasn’t intended to “answer” your philosophical statement (it wasn’t even in the form of a question.)
WolfishMusings: You are expert at misunderstanding other posters.
SJSinNYC: That works for both genders. I don’t have the answer to your question, but perhaps another poster here does.
WolfishMusings: Instead of being so philosophical, start educating your mistaken brethren. 🙂
Either you misunderstood me or I wasn’t clear. I didn’t intend to imply a Mechallel Shabbos is considered Frum, just that he may be a Tinok Shenishba.
WolfishMusings: Tinok Shenishba.
SJSinNYC: You most certainly do get credit for Mitzvos you wish to fulfill but are unable to due to circumstances beyond your control. A Yisroel can get the Mitzvos that only a Kohen can fulfill.
Who said they’re right? Perhaps they are ignorant of the halacha, and are not knowingly sinful. You should educate them.
SJSinNYC: What I mean by all you need is the will to, is that Hashem credits you for every mitzvah you willed to do, even if you are incapable of doing it.
SJSinNYC: Arguably all topics are better left between each gender separately.
anon for this: Your concern expressed can apply to any discussion here between the genders.
All you need is the will to.
I agree with “says who”.
Talking about the halachas and concepts of tznius doesn’t cause anymore impropriety thinking of erva than if a man were to learn these in the Torah or halacha seforim (Shulchan Aruch, Mishna Berura, and many more) that are very specific in discussing these things, and were written for men and mostly learnt by men.
tomim tihye, koma was saying that the Bayur Halacha was chiding the women of even his time for buying challa in the bakery instead of baking it — and the Bayur Halacha attributed it even then to a spiritual decline.
According to Reb Moshe the minimum height for a mechitzah is 66 inches. Many other Gedolim, including Rav Hutner, paskened it must be higher.
Perhaps the difference is one (milk) has a gezeira from Chazal while the other (other food) doesn’t. Just saying, since you asked for the “difference”.
Let this topic rest. Yidden don’t get numbered or known by a number.May 18, 2010 2:22 am at 2:22 am in reply to: Breach in Tznius: Recent affliction attacking Klal Yisroel #1025066
“First, who says these types of issues weren’t addressed?”
It is patently obvious that tznius needs as much contemporary addressing as loshon hora does.May 18, 2010 2:21 am at 2:21 am in reply to: Breach in Tznius: Recent affliction attacking Klal Yisroel #1025065
The Chofetz Chaim also wrote a Sefer called Mishna Berura. The MB takes some rather clear positions on tznius. Just as you point out the CCHF uses what the CC wrote about LH as its basis, the proposed CCTF would use what the CC wrote about tznius as its basis. And since LH easily has so many gray areas (moreso than even tznius), the CCTF would work on the same basis as the CCHF.
I see Gut Yom Tov & Hag Sameah… What about for those of us who it is a Git Yom Tov? 😉May 18, 2010 12:09 am at 12:09 am in reply to: Breach in Tznius: Recent affliction attacking Klal Yisroel #1025063
Your LOR. Public awareness campaigns can focus on the straightforward areas.