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  • in reply to: opinion about OTD #2470870
    yankel berel
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    Hebrew: פְּלִשְׁתִּים, romanized: Pəlištīm; LXX Koine Greek: Φυλιστιείμ, romanized: Phulistieím; Latin: Philistaei – were ancient people who lived on the south coast of Canaan during the Iron Age in a confederation of city-states generally referred to as Philistia.
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    note : latin – philistaei

    not ‘palestinian’ as AAQ would have us believe

    AAQ is playing loose -again- with the facts
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    this is the second time ….
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    the first time AAQ ‘changed’ it , by his own admission , from ‘plishtim’ to ‘palestinian’

    this is part of an established pattern of inconsistency with fact and reality ….
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    in reply to: Time to make the popcorn #2470824
    yankel berel
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    the question was …. lets remember

    not about russia or china ….

    but specifically about israel and its supreme court

    we do not change the goalposts in the middle of the game – right ?

    whether the SC’s unauthorized [critical fact , not to be ignored] grab of power

    at the expense of the elected representatives

    renders israel into a pseudo democracy or not

    to decide this one should employ HIS OWN critical thinking abilities

    not outsource them to others

    you do not even know who they are in person ….
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    blind cessation of thinking
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    against everything AAQ should stand for …..
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    in reply to: The Steipler Gaon on Zionism and on the Neteurei Karta #2470823
    yankel berel
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    @ujm

    hello how are you.

    nice to hear from you for once

    normally you conveniently disappear and do not answer

    but I will not do the same

    now re your post

    do you know that official weapons embargoes against the medina

    means more sakana for the yehudim on the frontline chvsh

    and more sakana for the yehudim at home

    and means extra hizuk for their enemies to kill them chvsh

    do you know that policymakers in the US and in other countries from where those weapons are sourced

    quote the anti zionist fools/ba’alei ga’ava who are on public record against the medina

    as justification for denying this materiel support

    thus endangering both the yehudim on the front and the yehudim at home

    what I wrote here is only one part

    so yes

    their crooked propaganda is dripping with blood

    its not hyperbole

    its reality
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    in reply to: Three Oaths Essay by Daniel Pinner #2470820
    yankel berel
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    True Torah Jews Org site would even say that the sun is not shining in the middle of the day if that would benefit their ideology.
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    in reply to: Going OTD in the IDF #2470287
    yankel berel
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    AAQ really thinks that the leftist establishment likes the frum settlers who do serve ?

    they are looked at with deep disdain and are considered abominable and hideous

    even serving is not going to get the haredim sympathy

    there is only one thing which will get them sympathy …

    and that that is – joining the multitudes who threw their religion to the wayside

    at the instigation of those very same secularists

    time to open his eyes to …… reality , reality , reality ….

    cannot say this pivotal word often enough ….
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    in reply to: Plan B – An Open Letter to Ultra Orthodox Community Leaders #2470285
    yankel berel
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    @AAQ

    my comment was specifically re the non comparison between the choice then and the choice now

    it almost reminds me of comparing the choice between vanilla and chocolate ice cream vs the choice between literal life and death

    you seem from your answer to have missed my point

    btw – that’s an example of what I mean when I complain that you change topics ….
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    in reply to: Plan B – An Open Letter to Ultra Orthodox Community Leaders #2470284
    yankel berel
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    @AAQ

    there were no trains filled with jews going either way

    not from the soviet side and not from the nazi side

    read and establish the reality
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    in reply to: The Steipler Gaon on Zionism and on the Neteurei Karta #2470283
    yankel berel
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    the torah from the NK is twisted and one sided

    totally ignoring the opinions of the great rabbanim

    and totally ignoring the clear pikuah nefesh danger hanging over masses of our brothers and sisters

    that’s not called torah

    that’s twisted torah used as propaganda

    that’s dangerous propaganda

    recognized as such by 99 % of orthodox jews

    propaganda dripping with blood

    blood from our own brothers and sisters
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    in reply to: Three Oaths Essay by Daniel Pinner #2470279
    yankel berel
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    lol.

    katan is arguing about clear verifiable facts

    avnei nezer does dispute it and points to the list in this essay

    hashmatat haposkim

    katan would even say that the sun is not shining in the middle of the day if that would benefit his ideology
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    in reply to: Tiferes Shlomo and the modern State of Israel #2469956
    yankel berel
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    so many questions ….

    so many questions katan , somejew and ujm are ignoring …

    why are they not answering ….

    does it have anything to do with the possibility that they simply do not have the answers …..

    does it have anything to do with the possibility that they fear that their own answers will incriminate their own shittot …..
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    in reply to: Time to make the popcorn #2469954
    yankel berel
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    Lol.

    AAQ is looking down on haredim for their ‘groupthink’ and lack of independent thought

    all the while

    AAQ’s comments reveal astonishing groupthink and lack of independent thought

    as is obvious in his blind adherence to ‘indexes’ and ‘scores’ , compiled by ….
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    in reply to: New book – “HaChareidim V’Haaretz” #2469953
    yankel berel
    Participant

    AAQ needs to be interrogated stasi like

    that’s the only way to keep him in some connection with reality

    otherwise he ‘ll keep on suggesting totally disconnected suggestions and inferring that the haredim are to blame for rejecting his fantasies

    that’s besides his habitual changing of the goalposts smack in the middle of the game

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    in reply to: Going OTD in the IDF #2469952
    yankel berel
    Participant

    Naive AAQ

    Unelected SC [illegally] appropriated for themselves the right to cancel laws passed by the elected MK’s if they deem it ‘unreasonable’ .

    Obviously SC deems refraining from gender folly ‘unreasonable’ ,

    so there is no use in passing such a law ….
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    in reply to: Million Man March #2469877
    yankel berel
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    btw steinzalts was controversial

    I myself remember many prominent rabanim coming out publicly against his bonafides

    on thev other hands many prominent rabanim did defend him

    so in other words – he was controversial ….
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    in reply to: Plan B – An Open Letter to Ultra Orthodox Community Leaders #2469863
    yankel berel
    Participant

    @AAQ

    bet that occupants of BOTH trains in your mashal of 1939

    would literally give away everything they owned to be able to be on either plane , no difference whether to JFK or to Israel ….

    BH that the dilemma today is between JFK and Israel and not between the Soviets and the Nazis …..
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    in reply to: The Steipler Gaon on Zionism and on the Neteurei Karta #2469862
    yankel berel
    Participant

    if somejew’s INTENT is to get jews to reject normative judaism as accepted by the gdolei yisrael ,
    and/or adopt the false kana’ut of NK , does that turn somejew into a meisit umadiach ??

    at least when we use somejew’s reasoning ….

    food for thought ….
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    in reply to: Three Oaths Essay by Daniel Pinner #2469860
    yankel berel
    Participant

    @ pure yiddishkeit

    you omit the holy avnei nezer who was holek on the holy satmar rav

    in other words it is a mahloket rabanim whether the 3 oaths are at all halachically applicable ….
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    in reply to: Time to make the popcorn #2469859
    yankel berel
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    Israeli democracy does not merely ‘have weak points’

    It is being hijacked ,even as we speak.

    By unelected crooks in an illegal way , aided and abetted by collaborators and useful idiots.

    It will not be restored until the downfall of those crooks.

    the above is a reflection of plain unadorned reality .

    ignore it at your own peril .
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    in reply to: opinion about OTD #2469858
    yankel berel
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    AAQ

    gerar is NOT a ‘palestinian’ city

    it is a pelishtim city

    substantial difference

    another example of AAQ playing loose with reality ….
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    in reply to: Tiferes Shlomo and the modern State of Israel #2469777
    yankel berel
    Participant

    Thought that somejew went on an extended holiday

    but then he popped up on one of the other threads ….

    so mr somejew …

    we were in the middle of a conversation …

    you were going to prove that zionism is a contradiction to the ikarei emuna ….

    you were even going to pinpoint which of the ikarei emuna it contradicts and why …

    you were going to prove that it is impossible to be a religious zionist , because those two terms have to contradict each other …

    am still waiting ….

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    in reply to: Time to make the popcorn #2469774
    yankel berel
    Participant

    AAQ :
    … German Jews in British internment camps – they were learning about wars of Talmudic times, but totally ignored Normandy and such …
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    Another example of AAQ’s tenuous grasp on reality .

    There were no German jews in British internment camps at the time of Normandy , in the summer of 1944 ….
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    in reply to: Time to make the popcorn #2469773
    yankel berel
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    AAQ :
    …. But, as the numbers I quoted above show, Israeli democracy is in a reasonable state overall and is improving over time ….
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    an excellent example of obstinate adherence to the religion of useful idiocy …..
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    in reply to: The Fourth Reich of “Israel” #2469771
    yankel berel
    Participant

    AAQ

    I rather think that the problem with our arguments is

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    that we lack a common starting point

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    that the arguments are not being conducted in good faith [changing subjects and ignoring reality]

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    both
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    in reply to: New book – “HaChareidim V’Haaretz” #2469770
    yankel berel
    Participant

    Yaakov yosefs posts are refreshing ….
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    in reply to: The Steipler Gaon on Zionism and on the Neteurei Karta #2469390
    yankel berel
    Participant

    lol.

    99.99% of orthodox jews reject NK ‘s dangerous folly …

    according to somejews crooked reasoning , 99.99% of orthodox jews are mu’m ….

    if someone wants to know the definition of lunacy , he should read somejew’s posts ….
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    in reply to: Three Oaths Essay by Daniel Pinner #2469391
    yankel berel
    Participant

    most of square’s comments above have merit …

    but the heading does not

    there are many non zionists who do not hold the oaths as halachically applicable

    and nevertheless are not zionists

    for many good and valid reasons
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    in reply to: Time to make the popcorn #2469389
    yankel berel
    Participant

    AAQ is repeating his folly by proving his point by …. repeating his folly ….

    if AAQ would bother to read and internalize my [repeated] post[s] regarding the idiocy of outsourcing your own critical thinking abilities to others

    then he would not repeat his reliance on other people judgements re the ‘score’ of countries in their self designed ‘indexes’.

    he would use HIS OWN sound judgement and stop being the useful idiot he is making himself into

    his blind reliance on these brainwashers [and brainwashed] is fatally detrimental to his discovery of reality as it is

    which is the first prerequisite in formulating sound solutions for the problems facing us.

    instead he is , by his willful blindness, perpetuating the very problems he claims to address ….
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    in reply to: New book – “HaChareidim V’Haaretz” #2469387
    yankel berel
    Participant

    Yaakov yosef to AAQ :

    …. now do you begin to understand what is going on? ….

    it seems that there is an inner , unexplained resistance in AAQ’s psyche , blocking him from ‘understanding what is going on’ …

    AAQ prides himself on his openmindedness and preparedness to hear

    from people from other and different persuasions and their arguments

    why is he closed minded when it comes to establishing what reality really is ????
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    in reply to: Plan B – An Open Letter to Ultra Orthodox Community Leaders #2469385
    yankel berel
    Participant

    Community Leaders. Please implement common sense. It would be really sad to see Jewish Americans losing their yiddishkeit because of an ill advised and unprepared move. When your leaders lose their minds and see you as an extension of the state of Israel, it wont help to convince them otherwise. It is a sure call for hizuk in torah and ma’asim tovim !! If you all go to Florida or to Israel – it could happen there too. Hashem is calling his children home , back to Him and they refuse to listen, instead they speak about Aliyah ! Thats ridiculous! Strengthen your selves with Emunah and come HOME , back to your loving Father in heaven ! Anywhere on the globe ! Do not move without consulting a Rav who knows you , your family and your situation .
    Otherwise , you are foolishly endangering your own and your children’s yahadut !

    in reply to: Tiferes Shlomo and the modern State of Israel #2469122
    yankel berel
    Participant

    hello mr somejew

    this is not a competition in intellect at all

    this is a conversation re the proof that , zionism nowadays, is against any ikarei emuna

    where we are still waiting for somejew to substantiate this claim

    we are waiting along time already …..

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    in reply to: Going OTD in the IDF #2469119
    yankel berel
    Participant

    AAQ

    you are totally misunderstanding the essence of the IDF and the leftist establishment in the legal system and the MSM

    so much so , that your suggestions sound like applicable for the moon …

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    you really think that the leftist establishment likes the frum settlers who do serve ?

    they are looked at with deep disdain and are considered abominable and hideous

    time to open your eyes to …… reality , reality , reality ….

    cannot say this pivotal word often enough

    this word should lodge itself in your skull and not move until it enters your brain …..
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    in reply to: The Fourth Reich of “Israel” #2469118
    yankel berel
    Participant

    @AAQ

    you left out part of my post

    seems that this rov knows you well …

    or is zocheh that shamayim put the right words in his mouth ….

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    that was the correct guess , it definitely is one of those two.

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    re this rav ‘s reaction to your query ….

    hazon ish writes in letter that if there is no common starting point between two divergent opinions , then arguments are futile

    it seems that this rave sized you up – even without reading your posts – as someone with whom he has no common starting points

    thats why he withdrew from the argument …..

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    in reply to: Million Man March #2469117
    yankel berel
    Participant

    @AAQ

    I will repeat :

    you change the subject of the argument

    the original statement was re comparing : enemy civilians’ life vs own soldiers life

    so you changed that to : own soldiers life vs other political or personal objectives

    like getting to berlin before the US or a competing soviet general ….

    was the conversation changed in your post ? yes or no ?
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    in reply to: Time to make the popcorn #2469116
    yankel berel
    Participant

    @AAQ

    @yaakov
    yosef

    as introduction :

    we have to use our own sechel rather than outsource our own critical thinking to others ,

    especially when we outsource it to those , either less qualified , or more biased than us , or both …

    therefore we will have to reexamine all information we take from the outside world , check the facts and reality and thereafter

    employ a thorough and critical spotlight to determine what we do or do not accept

    otherwise we will fall into the same trap millions of useful idiots fell into.

    now re the supreme court ….

    there are two terms which are very important : de facto and de jure

    the reality is that the supreme court calls the shots in ey

    so I agree that de facto the supreme courts decisions are binding

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    the enabling act of 1933 was passed in berlin with over two thirds of the votes

    and was de facto law in germany for the next 12 years

    but de jure was not the law of the land

    thus illegal

    therefore all subsequent decrees and regulations which derived their power from this enabling law

    were as illegal dejure as their source

    same with supreme court in israel

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    in reply to: New book – “HaChareidim V’Haaretz” #2468703
    yankel berel
    Participant

    @yaakov yosef

    I could kiss each and every word you wrote in your post to AAQ

    it is time AAQ opens up to reality …

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    in reply to: The Steipler Gaon on Zionism and on the Neteurei Karta #2468648
    yankel berel
    Participant

    @ujm

    my cousin in Belgium tells me that there is one of the nturei karta there – originally from Manchester England

    who travelled to Iran to participate in the holocaust denying conference there

    according to ujm

    he is covered by the staiplers so called ‘love and respect’ letter ….

    ma la’asot …

    this very same neturei karta person continued with his nefarious activities ….

    and initiated legal action against shechita and mila claiming that they are against animal and human rights

    my question to ujm – is that ok ?

    maybe we should use the staiplers letter

    after all the staipler is referring to neturei karta ? !

    who bizhut the letter , enjoy blanket immunity for all their future actions …… ????

    ujm ‘s position is plain ridiculous .

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    in reply to: Going OTD in the IDF #2468647
    yankel berel
    Participant

    – form a cybersecurity unit from the computer-educated charedim
    – pass army tests or equivalent
    – propose to the army to deploy you as a unit
    – bonus: include farsi-speaking sefardi charedim
    – extra bonus: perform some action against sonei yisroel on your own to demonstrate your capabilities. There are plenty of hackers who do that.
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    NAIVE .

    in reply to: The Fourth Reich of “Israel” #2468646
    yankel berel
    Participant

    aaq:

    rav to aaq : we can’t fully understand politics of another country
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    if the nail could talk , he would say: oh , my head hurts , someone banged it so hard …

    seems that this rov knows you well …

    or is zocheh that shamayim put the right words in his mouth ….

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    baruch shekivanti – aaq is not sufficiently acquainted with reality in ey .

    it shows in nearly every second comment he makes about the situation there
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    in reply to: Million Man March #2468644
    yankel berel
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    @AAQ

    aaq, I am disappointed that you repeatedly non-respond to me. ignoring the issue raised is NOT an acceptable response to a clear fact . If you have an answer , gezunte heit, let us know what your answer is. Simple ignoring or change of subject might work when you talk to your close friends, but it is not bringing any clarity to an online argument with people you do not know. Try harder.

    in reply to: Plan B – An Open Letter to Ultra Orthodox Community Leaders #2468643
    yankel berel
    Participant

    square seems as brainwashed and closed to facts and reason as somejew and katan ….

    seems that I have to ask mehila from all three …..
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    in reply to: Time to make the popcorn #2468642
    yankel berel
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    @yaakov yosef

    as you rightly point out , many of the activities of the supreme court in Israel are plainly illegal , as is obvious to any astute and objective observer
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    to use their illegal judgement to label non enlistees as criminals

    is the moral equivalent of thieves sending innocent lifesaving ambulance drivers to jail

    not only are they thieves who ought to pay for their thievery

    they also are committing a terrible injustice by jailing innocents and hampering the ambulance drivers’ vital vocation

    and to top it all off – the crooked thieves end up giving a mussar derasha to the lifesavers of the ambulance service

    if this sounds surreal … that’s because it really is ….

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    in reply to: The Fourth Reich of “Israel” #2468048
    yankel berel
    Participant

    Oh hello mr somejew …

    have not seen you for a long time …..
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    in reply to: The Fourth Reich of “Israel” #2468052
    yankel berel
    Participant

    @AAQ

    …. yb quotes chazal and his rebeim in a way that sometimes run against my preconceived ideas and I disagree with his logic because of those ideas and I am looking for the logical argument to present.

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    the above would be an accurate self description of AAQ ….
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    in reply to: Million Man March #2468047
    yankel berel
    Participant

    AAQ changes the subject of the argument

    original statement was re comparing enemy civilians’ life vs own soldiers life

    so AAQ changes that to own soldiers life vs other political or personal objectives

    like getting to berlin before the US or a competing soviet general ….

    this is happening too often …
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    in reply to: Time to make the popcorn #2468040
    yankel berel
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    @AAQ

    … this is “nullification of democracy” when both sides reject the others as legitimate. This is not a good siman.
    [aaq]

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    this a very good siman

    this is a siman of honesty and calling things as they are

    instead of politically correct hiding behind feel good slogans

    which have no resemblance to reality

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    this is not a nullification of democracy at all

    this the exact opposite ,

    this the DEFENSE of democracy
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    democracy is translated as ‘will of the people’

    whenever nazi’s , communists or crooks masquerading as judges and attorneys, subvert the will of the people

    then democracy is in mortal danger
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    to reject the abovementioned nazi’s , communists or crooks as illegitimate

    is absolutely life saving for democracy

    your whitewashing of those crooks is the ultimate death knell to democracy !

    you should stop your insidious attacks on democracy
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    in reply to: Time to make the popcorn #2468026
    yankel berel
    Participant

    @ujm
    @non political

    the concept of zayin tuvei ha’ir is similar to the concept of democracy
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    in reply to: Time to make the popcorn #2468025
    yankel berel
    Participant

    @AAQ

    … could you in return ask people to stop saying “arrested for learning Torah”? [aaq]
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    suggestion accepted.

    we will stop saying that .

    We will rather say the following true and correct statement : “arrested for dedicating their life for Torah”.

    those blatant illegal summonses [or rather kidnapping threats] are the diametric opposite to a life of dedication to torah

    at least in the opinion of 99 % of all torah scholars on this planet , as measured in quantity and quality
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    in reply to: The Steipler Gaon on Zionism and on the Neteurei Karta #2468021
    yankel berel
    Participant

    seems I am winning my bet here

    ujm is not responding to the clear objective understanding that staipler is not referring to the neture karta as we call them

    not those from once , not those from now

    he is referring to the edah people

    that much is clear from the context

    otherwise mr ujm , WHY IS HE SUDDENLY ADDRESSING THEM in the middle of the letter about voting ?

    WHY IS HE NOT ADDRESSING THE EDAH PEOPLE ??

    who are the ones who are on record to prohibit voting , and who the staipler mentions specifically in his letter ?

    any answer to those questions – mr ujm ??

    or are you made out of the same materiel as your compatriots katan and somejew

    who only speak when their automated answering machine is working and properly preprogrammed ???
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    in reply to: Million Man March #2467548
    yankel berel
    Participant

    @AAQ

    its not a cute proof at all …

    its a gross distortion and no proof whatsoever …

    it sounds more like willful blindness ….
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    in reply to: Time to make the popcorn #2467517
    yankel berel
    Participant

    those so called self appointed ‘guardians of the law’ are nothing more than corrupt and self serving ‘distorters of the law’
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    the reason why so many are still falling for their charade

    is that the so called ‘guards of democracy’ , the ‘free’ press , are

    as corrupted as their brothers in crime on the plum comfortable chairs in the courtrooms and legal offices
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    hope that their downfall is imminent

    and will signify the restoration of power to where it legally belongs …. the innocent citizens of this country .
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