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I told you that the article was not my source; it merely observed a somewhat similar phenomenon so I referenced it even though my point remains even without that article’s existence.

That’s why we’re here talking about the crooks.

I’m yellow (Chinese).

Darchei Torah offers 2 and half hours, four days a week, of secular studies. And their students achieve among the highest Regents exam marks in NYS.

Yet according to the NYSED, Darchei Torah students are truants. Since they don’t have 17.5 hours a week.

Avi, multiple top Israeli generals have clearly stated on the record that the Israeli military has more than enough soldiers and personnel as is, and does not need as many draftees at they’re already receiving — let alone to draft additional people who were heretofore exempt.

NCB: Among otd people, there’s a notably greater proportional representation of children of bt’s. (In fact, there’s a recent article in Tablet called Baal Teshuvah: The Next Generation that makes this same point, which is not where I noticed this phenomenon, but may have some [definitely not completely] accurate points.) But that wasn’t my main point, only a side point making the original point that even among observant/Orthodox bt’s — and their children, to a lesser extent but still greater extent than overall — you’ll find a proportionally greater acceptance of certain/specific more liberal positions (that are fully accepted/standard beliefs among general secular society) than you’ll find elsewhere in the Orthodox community.

And, again, not by all or even most bt’s. But it is proportionally more likely than by other Orthodox folks.

I think it is hard to fully give up an entire mindset when becoming frum. And if one didn’t fully give it up they’ll likely transmit some form of it to their children. To again stress, it may be a minority but it is still a greater proportion of that community than you’ll find in the overall Orthodox, especially Chareidim.

NCB — I hear your criticism and you have a point. Nevertheless, I do think that with that demographic there is a greater protensity to have some opinions that are off the grid compared to the mainstream positions of the Torah community, as compared to people who hail from a strong unbroken mesorah. Again, propensity not likelihood. Even within that demographic they mostly do not suffer from this type of malaise.

Similarly, you’ll also notice this phenomenon in that among otd groups there’s a greater propensity (not likelihood) that those from a less stronger Orthodox mesorah are more likely to fall into compared to those from families with an unbroken Orthodox chain.

So I agree with your overall point but think my point has validity as well. Perhaps I put it too starkly.

So what? Felder is no worse off now than had he officially been a Republican all along. The Republicans will be giving him minority chairs, as they do for other Republican senators.

Felder smartly milked his power for all it was worth when he was THE ONE deciding member. And he’s lost nothing now as a result.

gg: There’s a silly comment. An illegal curb cut is unavailable to the public for parking 24/7 even if the homeowner only uses it a few hours a day for himself. So it remains empty and unused whereas had there been no curb cut other people could park there when the homeowner wasn’t parked there.

Gamanit: A tell-tell of illegal driveways is when you see two driveways right next to each other. Regulations prohibit two driveways from being too close. And the old houses virtually never had two driveways close to each other, as the old house were more spaced out than the new homes. Another tell-tell, as mentioned earlier, is when the curb cut leads to a spot in front of the home, rather than to the side or a backyard garage. And another is when the curb isn’t cut but there’s still signs in front of the house saying Do Not Block Driveway or something of the like. Or when there’s yellow paint in front of a non-driveway.

The newly clarified state educational requirements of 17.5 hours a week is far more than even the Litvish yeshivos give at 12 hours a week.

The more Chasidish schools generally give 2 hours a day/4 days a week of secular studies while the Litvish yeshivos (and some Chasidish yeshivos) generally give 3 hours a day/4 days a week. There isn’t a major difference between them; and that is wholly sufficient.

Moster is an apikorus. According to the Chofetz Chaim it is a mitzvah to speak against him in any and every way.

Completely OT, CS, but now that you mention your family background I better understand your strong headed feminism and your incongruous attempts to reconcile it with Judaism.

Sigh; again? No one will actually send their kids to PS. It’s only a matter of registering without sending.

Amil: The New York Council of Catholic School Superintendents is the official arm of the Catholic Diocese that controls all 500 Catholic schools in New York State.

The superintendents have rejected the state’s guidelines and directed all of the state’s Catholic schools not to participate in “any review carried out by local public school officials.” Thus they will not allow NYS DOE evaluators entry into any of New York’s 500 Catholic schools to even make an evaluation.

The official website of the Archdiocese of New York put on a statement Friday reiterating their opposition, supporting the Catholic Superintendents announcement that they will refuse to participate in this state evaluation and even specifically lauding and backing Rabbi Brudny’s and Rabbi Reisman’s editorial in the Wall Street Journal announcing the Yeshiva’s oppose the state initiative as well.

I thought only old ladies play Bingo!

The Blaine Amendment is patently unconstitutional. It specifically targets schools that are run by religious institutions while not targeting other private schools. It is waiting for a court challenge to overturn it.

The president will give it in the Senate, in such an event.

Brisker mathematics — Eating your cake.

If you are going to tell me that soldiers protect the country — I am willing to accept that if — you sign a pledge not to go to a doctor if you are ill.

The Chareidi boys serve in the Yeshiva. The soldiers should be grateful for them.

Welcome back!

We haven’t had a Motzei Shabbos troll thread in years…

Hatzalah doesn’t hire members. They’re unpaid volunteers. Hatzalah is permitted to discriminate in whom they choose as non-paid volunteers.

They also discriminate on the basis of religion.

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Stay safe.

Vote Republican.