Once again, extremists dressed as chareidim, decided one may attack IDF soldiers at will. The most recent two cases occurred on Sunday and Monday evening – both in the Beis Yisrael neighborhood in Yerushalayim.
On Sunday night a soldier came under attach by a group of zealots, as they objected to seeing him in IDF uniform in the area. The religious soldier was simply looking for a minyan and went into the Bais Yisroel Shteeblach. He ran outside the Shul, but they followed and gathered around him. An MDA ambulance team was nearby, and they used their emergency vehicle to extricate the soldier from the fanatics before they had a chance to injure him.
On Monday evening another soldier was attacked as he was eating in Miros Falafel – just a few buildings away from the Mir Yerushalayim. The soldier was reportedly eating with his family when he was first attacked with verbal slurs which soon escalated into items being thrown at him.
Thankfully the entire family was able to get into a car and leave before being hurt.
(YWN Israel Desk – Jerusalem)
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i like how you ywn call people of your type “extremists” what are you also chassidish you hold of yourself better. are you college educated? What type of degree? which school? your the same no diffrent. and another thing whats that guy doing in a a uniform eating in miros with his family? he knows he shouldnt walk into that area dressed in his uniform. and yes it is offensive even if he didnt know they have every right to protest . remember its the same people that would invite you to eat at their house on shabbos. they have every valid reason dont show up dressed in your army uniform. adn he pmost likely did it on purpose there is substantial evidence indicating that the govt send in people to that area on purpose
The men and women of the IDF should be authorized to defend themselves against these animals by ANY means necessary. I’ll avoid getting into specifics but hamayvin yavin. We wouldn’t have a second thought if the terrorists were Palestinians but somehow wearing yeshivish lvush changes the rules of enagement.
I take exception to the opening line, “extremists dressed as chareidim.” How long are we going to pretend that we don’t have a large-scale problem of chareidi communities teaching these anti-IDF to their children. Are we all supposed to pretend that these kids and young adults learn these ideas from the internet they don’t have? We have to acknowledge the sad fact that chareidi parents are teaching their kids that beating up soldiers is as important as limud hatorah is, and until we acknowledge this problem, we can’t expect things to get any better.
Maybe if a soldier feels that his life is in danger, he should be allowed to use his gun. Once these fanatics know that soldiers can use their weapons to protect themselves (by wounding, not, chas v’shalom more seriously hurting) the fanatics, it might make them think twice about their actions.
“Once again, extremists dressed as chareidim, decided one may attack IDF soldiers at will.”
Please remove the commas.
So proud to be jewish.
Daasyeshara, these are indeed “extremists dressed as chareidim” – or, if you prefer the long way, “extremist fringe elements that are not at all representative of the chareidi community.”
To say that “chareidi parents are teaching their kids that beating up soldiers is as important as limud hatorah” is no less a canard than the slurs against the chareidi men in IDF uniform. I have lived in a very chareidi community for over 20 years and I don’t know one person who teaches their children that it’s okay to beat up soldiers – or, for that matter, who teach their children that people who beat up soldiers have a legitimate worldview.
And no, I’m not part of an insulated American kehillah.
Is it a travesty and a tragedy every time one of these incidents happen? Absolutely.
Are these incidents representative of the chareidi community and what the vast majority of its adherents believe? Absolutely not.
This story makes me sick to my stomach
When these young attackers with the same mindset grow older,what more violence will they do???
Nothing good will come out of baseless and misguided hatred.,
And when we pray three times a day to Hashem ,that Hashem should give us knowledge and wisdom,try to have this young dangerous group in mind,for if left unchecked, I am afraid to think what can happen.
If they are attack in other Jews they aren’t חרדי. Just because the slider is doing something wrong, doesn’t give them the right to attack him. If I atacked every Jewish doing something wrong (including myself – I also do aveiros), my hand would be raw and bloodied from use.
Perhaps I should be beaten for washing my time on reading the news as much as him for being in the army. Both are a was the of time!
MIR BOCHURIM — YOU SHOULD PROTECT THESE SOLDIERS
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So you agree that Jews should not walk around the goyishe world anywhere dressed in “Jewish” clothing, wearing Jewish peyos or Jewish tsistis? And, for that matter, Jews should not be allowed in the goyishe world JKewish (kosher) food and shechita should not be allowed (it all follows from the same argument). So you agree with the goyishe countries that ban shechita and bris milah?
The argument is exactly the same. If these people should not be walking around in “that area’, then Jews (dressed and acting as Jews) should not be allowed to walk around “that goyishe country”. Thank you for your input.
Since the vast majority of charedi Jews do not belive that violence against these IDF soldiers is ok, could some of the Roshei Yeshiva, around these “flashpoint” areas (ie Geulah) give a shmuez to their bochurim saying that if they see fanatics surrounding and threatening such soldiers, that the bochurim should come to the soldiers defense? After all the soldier is also a Jew and if the soldier were surrounded by a group of arabs, chas v’shalom, and a group of bocurim saw this and they outnumbered the arabs greatly, wouldnt the bochurim feel compelled to surround the soldier to try to help him. Think what a positive message (ie Kiddush Hashem) such action would send to all frum IDF soldiers (and all IDF soldiers), namely, that most charedi Jews value you as a Jew and that your life and safety also matter to us.
@Momof9 you took what i said a little too literally, which is more my fault than yours. what I was referring to is the awful disregard that charedi families have towards other sects of Judaism. Condescending remarks about the government and IDF imbue impressionable children with the idea that anyone in the army is as bad as a goy, or even a meisis. while it is important to teach our children that shmiras hamitzvos is of the utmost importance, it should not be done in a way that gives the impression that hating any Jew is ever allowed, especially those that are shomer torah u’mitzvos but happen to have different ideologies. BECAUSE the chareidi community at large doesn’t preach the idea of v’ohavta lirei’acho kamocha applying to all Jews, I do not think it is fair to say, “extremists dressed as chareidim,” as all Chareidim hold these views to an extent. Therefore, a more accurate phraseology would be “extreme-chareidim.”
@besafe, I think I have answered your question as well. How could the chareidi community possible suggest that bochurim should stand by soldiers and defend them. This would indicate that they tolerate their ideologies. should they chas veshalom seem to respect other Jews with differing opinions? Any honest Jew knows that Hashem wants us to love all of his children (with the exception of a meisis), even if they are more “modern” or want to defend the medinah harishaah. The chareidi roshei Yeshiva are afraid of the slippery slope and are tolerating this terrible behavior, and this leads to the stereotype of chareidim being intolerant.
Perhaps there is someone who is well respected, by at least some people, who is not afraid to speak out on the topic of respecting all Jews, regardless of their dress. Even if it would only have a minimal impact, perhaps someone like a Rav Yitzchok Dovid Grossman, could somehow help bridge the gap.
I know this is idealistic, yet most of us realize that we have to try everything to calm the situation down, for we know the consequences of Jews hating and fighting with each other, Hashem yerachem. “lech knos es kol hayehudim……”