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A place to share information rather than quibble over Ezras Nashim. Tips, Facts, stories, good news, etc.
Let me be perfectly honest. I’m not such a schmoozer or coffee room person, but I do enjoy learning new things from others as well as sharing my own thoughts. In the coffee room, once you state your opinion, it gets lost among a million other pieces of information.
A bulletin board would allow YWN participants an independent space to voice their opinion or information about a subject they know about. It would remain on indefinitely, though it would move down as new entries are added to the board.
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Would YWN be open to it?
The last few days the Coffee Room has been busy with the Ezras Nashim story in Boro Park….but today, I got an email about another story.
Can anyone confirm or add any input?
Due to the nature of it I was very hesitant to share this story with the public, but after a young woman was niftar this week, I decided that the time has come for me to speak up.
A while ago my sister was unfortunate to have a miscarriage. When she realized what’s happening she called her Doula for advice. She said that she’ll be over soon. Before long, she started bleeding very heavily and realized that this is a true emergency. Thinking that shes being frum she decided to call on Ezras Nashim for help.
A short while later a EN volunteer arrived. At that time she started to feel dizzy and had to lay down on the floor, while still bleeding heavy. Then another lady arrived. They both tried calming her down, my sister kept asking where the ambulance is? They kept on reassuring her that their ambulance is on its way and will be here momentarily. All this time they did not call for paramedics although fluids were clearly needed as she was bleeding out fast.
After 20 minutes or so the doula walked into the house. She could not believe her eyes, there My sister was laying, In a pool of blood, and two nice ladies each holding one hand were standing there helplessly (there was nothing more they could have done for her at this point besides transporting) at this point she was extremely pale, dizzy and weak. The doula also inquired right away where the ambulance was. When she was given the same answer that my sister was given 10 minutes earlier that they were waiting for a ambulance she took out her phone and called hatzola. Needless to say in under a minute a hatzola member was at the door, he right away realized the critical state she was in, he called in for Paramedics. In no time she had 2 paramedics at her side starting IV lines on both of her arms and forcing fluids in to keep the blood pressure from going even lower, and trying to raise it a bit. They quickly whisked her out, called the hospital ahead to notify that they are coming in with a critical patient. The doctor in the hospital later explained to her the grave condition she was in. Her blood pressure was less than 60. He was of the opinion that had it gone a little lower it would be at the point of going into shock where there is no return ר״ל. A Neighbor told me 911 pulled up a few minutes after Hatzolah left. All in all she needed a lot of blood and transfusions but BH she survived to tell the tale.
I want to be very clear that I am not here to bad mouth people. But my sister, like many people, naively believed that Ezras Nashim is the same exact as Hatzolah except in a womens version, –a real win-win situation.
The fact is however that in order to provide the care that we became used to, you need to have years of experience and a network that can be activated at a moments notice. Paramedics, ambulances, extra members in case of a heavy patient, connections with doctors etc.
What bothers me most is its unconscionable how EN advertises that they are highly trained….and mislead the public by giving the impression that they can handle emergencies???
Moreover, when the EN ladies realized that it was truly like threatening, why didn’t they then call Hatzlola??
To me this is Retzicha in its purest form.
The only conclusion I can reach is that the founding motives for Ezras Nashim were not for the right reasons. It was not about savings lives. That’s why they failed my sister and failed the woman from yesterday. The only difference is my sister survived and the other woman tragically was niftar.
We as a community need to stop being so gullible, especially when it comes to life and death.
This is going around. I didn’t write it. Can anyone offer any insight?
This is important for you to know…. This is what happened last night in the heart of Boro Park at about 2 AM. I heard it from the family.
A husband came up from his office to his house and found his wife laying unconscious, he ran to the get Hatazalas number… several months earlier his wife put an Ezras Nushim magnet on the fridge, so he called that
number thinking he is calling hatzala…. he told them that his wife is laying unconscious… after 10 minutes he saw that no one is arriving.. so he realized that he called Ezras Nushim, so he quickly called hatzala. As he
called Hatzala, Ezras nushim arrived… Hatzala was there in less than a minute, to find the patient in cardiac arrest while the 2 members from ezras nushim were standing and looking at the patient (One of them was in a wedding dress) hatzala immediately started CPR and Needless to say within moments hatzala had Medics and multiple members on the scene.
10 minutes after hatzala showed up, 911 showed up.
R’L the women was niftar.
The reason 911 showed up is because Ezras Nushim when they got the call that a patient is unconscious, they called 911 to come help them.
Now don’t put up an ezras nushim sticker before you analyze last night’s story…because chas v’shulem if you are in a real emergency
you will not have time to analyze… you will just dial the number that’s on the sticker of your fridge or phone
Question 1: Why did it take 10 minutes for ezras Nushim to arrive?
Question 2: Why did the ezras nushim first responders not start CPR immediately?
Question 3: When the EN dispatchers got the call and knew this is a serious emergency, why did they call 911 as their backup and not call hatzala? They
knew pretty well that Hatzala has members awake sitting in a car 2 blocks away? We all know that
when a patient is in Cardiac Arrest every split second counts, the earlier you start cpr and AED the better chance of survival there is
Question 4: When the EN members got to the scene and saw that the patient is
in cardiac arrest, why at that point did they not call Hatzala to help them
Question 5: Why is hatzala not making a fuss??? Why is hatzala not notifying the public about this? Is this the time for them to be political correct?
This is literally coming down to life and death situations?
I am writing this because I myself when I had a certain medical emergency called Ezras Nushim and they nearly killed me. I cannot go into details…
But at the time I reached out to Hatzala and they said it is up to the patient to decide whom they want to care for them.