December 27, 2018 10:46 am at 10:46 am #1652814
Does any one know how to get this politically trashy news paper from being delivered to my home?
Many friends,neighbors and relatives of mine are fuming that they cant figure out a way to have this piece of propoganda / trashy newspaper from being delivered to thier mail boxes.
Is it the responsibility of the post office, delivery company or publisher?
I told them to just use it as packing material or cat litter until it stops being delivered.December 27, 2018 10:49 am at 10:49 am #1652873OneBigSketchMember
Just do what this guy did. He took them back to the editors house.
Editor of Lehovin. 1750 East 18 Street between Quentin Rd and Ave R at the London Residence.December 27, 2018 11:25 am at 11:25 am #1652883iacisrmmaParticipant
the last time it was dropped in my driveway I left it there for three weeks. Never had another one delivered.December 27, 2018 11:25 am at 11:25 am #16528881Participant
Why are people so bothered by this paper?December 27, 2018 12:02 pm at 12:02 pm #1652897Neville ChaimBerlinParticipant
I don’t know, but I am so jealous. I feel like the only person on the CR that doesn’t have a rant about Lehovin. Why don’t they deliver it to my home?December 27, 2018 12:29 pm at 12:29 pm #1652902MenoParticipant
the last time it was dropped in my driveway I left it there for three weeks
I did the same thing and now there’s a pile of mush in my driveway. That’ll teach ’em not to deliver to me again.December 27, 2018 12:29 pm at 12:29 pm #1652910achdusParticipantDecember 27, 2018 12:37 pm at 12:37 pm #1652920
unless you post a guard at your home 24×7, you cant stop anyone from leaving unwanted material at our door when you are not there. send the publisher a letter stating you do not wish to receive the publication and if he persists (its his business to work it out with his delivery company, not yours) file a complaint with 311.December 27, 2018 1:51 pm at 1:51 pm #1652982
apy: Orthodox Jews don’t engage in mesira. Most here are Orthodox.December 27, 2018 2:00 pm at 2:00 pm #1652989Avi KParticipant
Joseph, that’s very funny but don’t give up your day job. Would you care to guess how the Gra and the Baal haTanya came to thrown in jail?December 27, 2018 2:00 pm at 2:00 pm #1652994
“Just do what this guy did. He took them back to the editors house on 1th Street” .
The newsprint used by the publishers of Lehovin is especially well-suited for wrapping fish (especially prime cuts of Matjes herring etc.) . You will be making a statement of appreciation for their great editorial work by first wrapping some fish in the most recent edition delivered to your door before returning it. If you have a cat, there are some more creative options for gift-giving to the publisher.
On a serious note, its not such a bad idea to scan these rags before trashing them simply to know what some of the nareshkeit that crazies at both ends of the spectrum are spouting.December 27, 2018 2:00 pm at 2:00 pm #1652987613scuttleParticipant
personally…. I would drop them all off at the one who is funding this trash, Rabbi Aaron Schecher 1248 E 12th St Brooklyn NY 11230December 27, 2018 2:01 pm at 2:01 pm #1652992daboorMember
Send them to Be’er Hagola Institute.December 27, 2018 2:06 pm at 2:06 pm #1653014
Looks like ots a peleg based trashy paperDecember 27, 2018 2:10 pm at 2:10 pm #1653023
Wow, HaGaon HaRav Aaron Schecher shlit”a is behind this paper?!
How do I subscribe?? I’d like to send gift subscriptions to everyone I love, if such a Gadol is behind it!December 27, 2018 2:13 pm at 2:13 pm #1653033
True to form. When nothing else to say, he cries Mesira.December 27, 2018 2:14 pm at 2:14 pm #1653025coffee room hockerMember
all the paper writes about is their fake news giyus rants that go on and on and on and on.
they also made sure to put photos of gedolim in one of their issues…and specifically left the gadol hador out. they are an evil band of reshoyim arurim. The same thugs would easily be a part of black lives matters or the resist movement. people like this suffer from borderline personality disorders (see Joseph etc) and never can just be normal and follow accepted hashkafa.
go follow the editor around for a few days. see what your dealing with.December 27, 2018 2:14 pm at 2:14 pm #1653032sugar in coffeeMember
@Joseph – Hashem created chaim berlin for one reason: That whatever the chaim berlin cult does, everyone else should do exactly the opposite and you will be fine.December 27, 2018 2:14 pm at 2:14 pm #1653036
To 1: Because some of the articles cross the line such as a “special edition” some have attributed to the same publisher and distributed to attendees at the agudah convention hotel several weeks ago which was disrespectful to some chashuve rabbonim.December 27, 2018 2:20 pm at 2:20 pm #1653048LOTR92Participant
go to the main publishing site with a few friends, preferably from the bratva, and rip the place up, then threaten to burn it down, unless they stop delivering to you.
This works for me usually.
PS. use hatchets.December 27, 2018 3:15 pm at 3:15 pm #1653074nishtdayngesheftParticipant
Yet another instance where this forum devolves into an even lower level than VIN. Truly a goal to aspire to. And this is “moderated”. By whom? Sean Yanklowitz?December 27, 2018 3:47 pm at 3:47 pm #1653117zahavasdadParticipant
What is Lehovin ? never heard of itDecember 27, 2018 4:09 pm at 4:09 pm #1653126shualiParticipant
“Hashem created chaim berlin for one reason: That whatever the chaim berlin cult does, everyone else should do exactly the opposite and you will be fine.”
In spite of what The Novominsker Rebbe Shlit”a said on Motza’ai Shabbos at this year’s Agudah Convention, of those who sit on the Moetzes, Rav Aharon Schechter, Rav Malkiel Kotler, Rav Yosef Harari-Raful, Rav Yaakov Horowitz (Telz), Rav Frankel (Vialipole), and others, all believe the mesorah is most accurately represented by Rav Shmuel Auerbach ztzvk”l.
And number two, what is the difference between the brazen lack of kovod ha’Torah, emunas chachomim, and ahavas Yisroel that some of the above posts echo, and that of OO, YCT, MO and some other unaffiliated Jews?December 27, 2018 4:09 pm at 4:09 pm #1653127nishtdayngesheftParticipant
“What is Lehovin?”
You wouldn’t comprehend.December 27, 2018 4:10 pm at 4:10 pm #1653133
What this thread indicates is that Lehovin is making a major impact in the American Chareidi community. No one gets so bent out of shape that The Marketeer is left at his door that he starts a Coffee Room thread complaining about it. Yet we’ve had multiple threads where we see complaints about Lehovin. If it weren’t making any impact, those opposed to the gedolim supporting it wouldn’t complain. They’d treat it like they do The Marketeer. What really bothers them is that people are really reading it and it is having a noticeable impact in the Litvish community.December 27, 2018 4:48 pm at 4:48 pm #1653163zahavasdadParticipant
While I never heard of this newspaper, just put a sign on your front door saying NO NEWSPAPERS, OR FLYERS
It then makes it against the law for anyone to put a newspaper or flyer on your property, I think its a $100 fine per infraction (This is a NYC law)December 27, 2018 6:05 pm at 6:05 pm #1653188
Zdad. Your not missing anything.
The only thing it makes on my block, is a mess.December 27, 2018 6:05 pm at 6:05 pm #1653196
Wow, HaGaon HaRav Aaron Schecher shlit”a is behind this paper?!
How do I subscribe?? I’d like to send gift subscriptions to everyone I love, if such a Gadol is behind it!
It’s not for nothing that chassidim pronounce it “hagoon ” not hagoan!December 27, 2018 6:05 pm at 6:05 pm #1653200
its become fashionable that anyone with an agenda, and a few dollars to pay a printer puts out a paper, a kuntres (call it what you want) hangs flyers or posters to “spread the word”.December 27, 2018 6:05 pm at 6:05 pm #1653204
Interesting, not a single chaim berliner would admit that rav ahron is “behind” the paper.December 27, 2018 6:05 pm at 6:05 pm #1653241nokia301Participant
can I use ur hatchet big boy!!December 27, 2018 6:11 pm at 6:11 pm #1653271FerdParticipant
@Joseph – “What this thread indicates is that Lehovin is making a major impact in the American Chareidi community”
No, you shoita gamur. The Marketeer never attacked rav Shteinman or rav kanievsky, which lehovin is doing. directly. yes, this outrages alot of people. no one reads this piece of garbage pail, and it wont last, i promise.December 27, 2018 8:49 pm at 8:49 pm #1653304ZionGateParticipant
“……It’s not for nothing that chassidim pronounce it “hagoon ” …….
Not editorializing, since I have no clue what this paper is all about, but just based on dialects/ pronunciations ,
which I’m very familiar with, I’ll say 2-2tango isn’t taking any prisoners tonight.December 27, 2018 8:50 pm at 8:50 pm #1653314YesOrNoParticipant
Simple. Have you tried contacting the publisher and respectfully stating, “I do not wish to have Lehovin delivered to my address. I request you remove me from your list.”?December 27, 2018 8:50 pm at 8:50 pm #1653315YesOrNoParticipant
If you try that approach. Feedback would be appreciated.December 27, 2018 8:53 pm at 8:53 pm #1653321The little I knowParticipant
Jo: You believe that reporting to 311 is mesira? Do you know anything at all about the halacha?
Multiple choice question:
How do I get Lehovin to stop delivering their trashy paper to me?
A. Collect a pile, and dump it on the doorstep of the publisher.
B. Use it for cat litter, etc.
C. Place a sign about no unsolicited literature on your door, and then report to 311.
D. Make a video of A, B, or C, and upload on the internet.
E. All of the above.December 27, 2018 9:14 pm at 9:14 pm #1653337
Yes, it certainly is, TLIK, as the purpose of reporting is a fine by the non-Jewish authorities.December 27, 2018 9:41 pm at 9:41 pm #1653342
BH it doesn’t come to Far RockawayDecember 27, 2018 10:15 pm at 10:15 pm #1653360
In any event, my friends, NY law only prohibits unsolicited advertising materials. The law specifically (due to constitutional issues) exempts periodicals, newspapers and opinion pieces from the law.
How do you guys think the Flatbush Jewish Journal is legally able to dump their paper on every door stop, unsolicited? I don’t hear APY & Co. complaining about that. Because it, also, is legal.December 27, 2018 11:04 pm at 11:04 pm #1653368
It is delivered to mail boxes weekly in the tristate areas, including monsey area brooklyn queens staten island areas, lakewood,toms river area.December 27, 2018 11:04 pm at 11:04 pm #1653377STAYCALMANDGROWUPParticipant
This should be your worst problem. Sounds something like some people in the nursing home fighting over the seat near the window.
#seegoodanddogoodDecember 28, 2018 1:03 am at 1:03 am #1653419👑RebYidd23Participant
StayCalm, people often focus on small problems because they are easier to solve.December 28, 2018 1:03 am at 1:03 am #1653417
I’ve never seen itDecember 29, 2018 10:01 pm at 10:01 pm #1653745
Bh there was no lehavin trashy paper this week in my mail box. Halevy vyter!December 29, 2018 10:49 pm at 10:49 pm #1653782HealthParticipant
T2-2T – I just found out this Shabbos – I’m friends with the editor.
But I’m more right that Rav S. Auerbach Ztl.December 30, 2018 9:49 am at 9:49 am #1653860mentsch1Participant
From what I can tell you took a bloggers “interpretation “ and applied it to the navominsker. The navominsker talks with very refined speech and after watching his speech all I can say is that his disagreement with Rav Malkiel was done in the most subtle and mentchlich way.
You are an illustration of the problem and the main problem , as it always is throughout our history, is that any machlokes lshem shemayim between gedolim only becomes machlokes once talmidim get involved .December 30, 2018 10:58 am at 10:58 am #1653868
is that any machlokes lshem shemayim between gedolim only becomes machlokes once talmidim get involved .
בית הלל & בית שמאי wasn’t לשם שמים?December 30, 2018 7:53 pm at 7:53 pm #1654069Neville ChaimBerlinParticipant
You guys are making it really hard to me to not pull for lehovin and “peleg”…December 30, 2018 8:47 pm at 8:47 pm #1654088
Neville: They offer subscriptions.December 30, 2018 11:10 pm at 11:10 pm #1654097
If the Peleg hoodlums were disrupting rush hour traffic, throwing garbage and starting dumpster fires in BP and Willy, I suspect that all the admiration and support for Rav Auerbach’s Z’tl shitah would disappear quicker than a copy of Lehovin on T22T’s doorstep.
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