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Abba_SParticipant
Girls should get back as soon as possible so that you can lock down a date otherwise, another shadchun will be proposing another girl and she will lose her chance to go out with him.
August 20, 2015 11:56 pm at 11:56 pm in reply to: Shidduchim – overweight is the new poverty #1097368Abba_SParticipantMost boys would go out with an overweight girl, it’s the boy’s mother that’s the problem. The other problem is that a picture is usually required prior to the first date. This is assuming that she is not over 350 lbs & 5’5″, then there might be a health problem.
Wealth isn’t all it’s cracked up to be. Thirty years ago I knew of a case a couple was about to be engaged the groom’s father wanted the promised 5 years of income @ $30,000.00 per year,so he could learn, which was a lot of money back then, up front. The Bride’s father was agreeable to the 5 years of support, but couldn’t swing it up front, so it was called off.
Abba_SParticipantI am not a Posek, but if he is dyeing his hair to look younger in order to get a wife or for business purposes it may be permissible otherwise not. But ask a posek, he is better informed as to how to answer this question
Abba_SParticipantWhen you buy the building your lawyer should have it written in the contract that all idols and religious items should be removed prior to sale. Prior to closing you should inspect the building to make sure there are no religious objects.
All that is needed is the nullification by a non Jew, of the church. So for example if a non Jewish employee would crack or dent any idol or cross or other religious object prior to taking possession there should be no problem.
Please contact a Posek before purchasing a house of worship as any non Jewish religious object must be destroyed and you can’t get a benefit from it once the Jew takes possession of the building.
Abba_SParticipantZogt_Besser
If she came an hour late would she get her full pay? If the employer dictates the hours she is an employee. If it’s by the job then she is a contractor.
Does she have a MORAL OBLIGATION to fulfill the year? Yes she does, but is she financially obligated, the answer is no.
Please do not rely on me and contact a Posek if this is anything other than in theory.
Abba_SParticipantWhen I was growing up it was assumed that the husband would be supporting his wife. Therefor the boy need to be a little older as he had to have work experience. But now that the wife is supporting it is better if she had some work experience.
Age shouldn’t matter but a 60 year old with a 20 year old is a no no. Sooner or later the attraction will wear off and then there will be trouble
August 18, 2015 10:16 pm at 10:16 pm in reply to: Shidduchim – overweight is the new poverty #1097348Abba_SParticipantBeauty is in the eye of the beholder. Everyone has a mate you just have to find it. It’s just the shadchunim are only looking to setup the ones that are easy.
Abba_SParticipantIs this for real or are you just looking for Walcott the East Ramapo School Monitor.
Abba_SParticipantZogt_Besser
A Morah is no different than any other employee that took a job and left in the middle. His hand is on the bottom. Any additional EXPENSE can be deducted from the worker’s pay. If the employer hired a sub at the same pay rate then there is no monetary claim just a claim that she didn’t honor her word.
I don’t think that you can consider a Morah as an independent contractor (Kablan) the relationship is employee by all standards.
Please note she is not a slave as that was abolished back in the mid 1800s, at least in the US. In the Roman Catholic Church they used to have nuns who swore an oath of poverty and taught in their schools is this what you want?
On the other hand, WOULD YOU ALSO REQUIRE THE PRINCIPAL TO TAKE OUT A LOAN IN ORDER TO PAY THE TEACHING STAFF when there isn’t enough in the yeshiva’s bank account? After all he/she signed the contract too. This is not as rare as you may think, is there a thread about this?
As far as a contractor leaving in the middle of a job it happens all the time. Hopefully you didn’t pay him for the whole job and held back some money. Otherwise you are going to be chasing him forever. Good luck trying to collect even if you win a judgement.
Abba_SParticipantBookworm
You never heard of someone called Abba Eban or Abba Shual.
Abba_SParticipantDash
These teachers are paid between $10,000 – $17,000 per year. At $10,000 for 10 months is $1,000 per month. Four weeks to a month equals $250 per week.
When they sign the contract it’s for the annual amount $10,000 which looks like a lot of money so they sign. You don’t realize until you get your first check how little you are getting after taxes.
Tech. 20
The solution is for the yeshiva to help the newlyweds get a subsidized apartment in the community together with a Kollel where the husband can learn.
Abba_SParticipantIf the girl marries and moves to Lakewood bus fare is $26. per day or $130 per week. Her salary is $250 per week after taxes it’s $175 so she’s working for $9.00 a day? Would you do it ?
Abba_SParticipantReb Yid
Does Flavored Tobacco need a hechsher
Abba_SParticipantLC
Anyone who lives less then 2 miles from school DOES NOT QUALIFY for FREE SCHOOL BUSING both in NY State and NJ. In Lakewood Free Courtesy Busing is provided for those who are between .6 miles and 2 miles from school for this year only. State Law in both NY & NJ require free busing for those who live and go to school within the within the school district but live more than 2 miles from school. You are talking about someone living not only outside the district but outside the country.
Where is the child’s home? In Lebanon, Syria, Jordan, Gaza, or Egypt.
This question should be referred to Eliyahu Hanovi. I thought everyone is going to move into Eretz Yisroel proper when the Moshiach comes. Maybe they got a good deal on their house.
Abba_SParticipantCT Lawyer & Joseph
Yes you are right 50 years ago it was legal to discriminate against women. In fact Blacks were just getting the rights to vote down south back then.
What I meant to say was if it happened today your mother could have sued and won.
Abba_SParticipantIf you can sell enough of their product and make money it’s good. But if all you are doing is getting your friends and relatives evolved it’s a scam.
I tried it with Amway which was a MLM ( Multi Level Mamagement)program about 40 years ago. The only ones who make money are the ones on top.
Abba_SParticipantDouble Payment isn’t relevant today even in cases of theft because the Jewish courts aren’t authorized to collect it. Also double payment can only be imposed by a Jewish court in cases of theft, also in this case since it was returned voluntary ( without it being brought to court) no fine (double payment) is imposed.
I do think that both parties should apologize to each other.
Wishing everyone a Happy & Healthy New Year
Abba_SParticipantJoseph
Look in Sahadrin in chapter Chailik it tells who lost their rights to the world to come
Abba_SParticipantWill they be tumah and need to be sprinkled with the water and ashes of the parah adomah? Will they still be matamah in a tent?
Abba_SParticipantZD
The current East Ramapo school budget which was passed by the voters was for $218 million and calls for a tax increase of 1.3%. I don’t understand why you think the community is not voting for tax increases to fund education.
The school monitor will have to convince the Senate, Assembly & Governor that the state MUST TAKEOVER THE DISTRICT because as long as the current board is in charge there will be no shortfalls. All that will be done is that the board will balance the budget by cutting non-mandatory services and tax increases. But once the state takes over they are not going to get the tax increases so either they kick in more money or cut services.
The services the frum use are busing and special ed both mandatory and can’t be cut. Special ed they can fight the private placement of students but it’s expensive and can cost as much as $70,000 per child to win the case. The rationale is that once the district wins the case the parent will give up and leave the student in the public school. But by law the parent can appeal each year and any saving gotten by having the student in public school is lost in legal fees.
Right now the frum community is not suing the district about special ed. but if they remove students from yeshivas putting them in public school they had better make sure that there is zero tolerance for antisemitism. The first time one of the 9,000 public school student or school employee utters an antisemitic comment every parent is going to request private placement.Getting the comment on video isn’t hard. There are going to be hundreds of Jewish special ed students in public school which means there are going to be hundreds of Jewish shadows everyone has a phone with video and having it on all the time isn’t expensive. Enticing public school employees or students to make the antisemitic comment isn’t hard either.Once you have proof the public school is a hostile environment than the yeshiva is the better placement. This will cost the district tens of millions of dollars because all the Jewish special ed students will request and be granted private placement.
Abba_SParticipantCTLawyer
If your wanted she could have sued the superintendent she would win and the district would have had to pay big time.
Abba_SParticipantWith Universal pre-k the state of New York is paying for all students provided that there is limited religious instruction .
If the yeshivas don’t hire the seminary girls they will be hired by the universal pre-k providers. Who will the parent want a middle aged tired teacher who can’t keep up with the toddlers or the teenage teacher who is full of vim & vigor. Some of these pre-k may decide to start a first grade and then a second and since they are the only ones hiring the seminary girls the yeshivas can’t compete and before you know it what started as a pre-k is a full fledged yeshiva.
Supply and demand dictates that the fewer applicants the higher the salary. Likewise once a larger number of girls go into different fields such as programming, medical billing etc… it will open new fields for the middle aged woman and there will be fewer candidates for these morah jobs.
Abba_SParticipantZD
If the Property is income producing such as an apartment building that rents out apartments to the general public for a profit, it is taxable. However the same building used as student housing such as housing for kollel families at cost is non taxable. The key point is income producing, if owner receives $1.00 more than the expenses the building is taxable for property tax purposes.
As far a the NFL, Green Bay Packers & the New York Stock Exchange having non profit status. All of these entities filed papers with the state and federal government in order to be granted nonprofit status.
NYU and the Museum of Natural History got nonprofit status because they are educational institutions and as for nonprofit hospitals they fall under for the “public good” category.
Abba_SParticipantSyag
“the kind of teachers i am looking for for my children will be doing both.”
This type of teacher is hard to find and if this is what you want maybe home schooling or private tutors is the way to go.
Abba_SParticipantIt appears that on one hand you want the Morah to be committed to work a full school year. On the other hand they are hardly paying them anything and there is no incentive to stay.
Let’s face it no Morah no matter how dedicated she is, is not going to turn down a shidduch just so she can finish the school year.
Let’s say there is have a no marrying clause in the Morah’s contract and she finds a boy and gets engaged. The most the Yeshiva can do is fire her and possibly hold back two weeks pay or about $500 – 1,000 gross or $350- $700 net. The Morah has nothing to lose and goes on unemployment and tells them (Dept of Labor) that her employer held back her last check. They will get her, her back pay and the yeshiva will have to hire her back. The Morah is not interested in the job and the Yeshiva will now have to prove that the Morah’s not interested or face fines.
In fact the firing of the Morah maybe in the best interests of the Morah. This way she collects unemployment while planning her wedding . It also doesn’t solve the problem as the yeshiva needs to find a replacement anyway. All it does is increase the unemployment premiums that they have to pay.
A better solution is for the yeshiva to promise at least subsidized housing if she finishes the year. This together with help in finding a kollel for the groom will help the yeshiva retain qualified teachers.
Abba_SParticipantIn NYC any shul that has a stove in their kitchen, is considered a catering establishment and MUST PAY WATER TAXES.
ZD
“Also if the bUdgets were voted down and there is a shortfall, The law allows a tax increase anyway. That is what likely will happen before state aid is given”
You are correct they can increase Property Tax by 2% but you have to understand that it’s limited to 2% of what ever the tax rate is, the most they will get is a few million extra. This increase will only happen if the board passes a budget that has a shortfall What will happen is the board will just cut services in the public school to balance the budget so there wouldn’t be a shortfall and therefor wouldn’t be a need for a tax increase. Unless you are talking about a state takeover of the board in which case the State is setting the budget and the shortfall. In that case they will have to pay for the shortfall they created.
Abba_SParticipantYeshiva Bochur
“show me someone who supports themselves fully solely from learning and then I will consider it a real job. If I was learning full time I’d be broke and my family would starve”.
If you are on govt. programs you wouldn’t starve and as far as being broke many people with good jobs are also broke.
Abba_SParticipantYou do realize that the only reason BMG can enforce the freezer clause is because the guys are getting ready and going on dates during the time he would be normally be learning in yeshiva. The Morah is dating on her own time. Even if the Morah’s contract had a no marring clause, it would be unenforceable both in secular and Jewish court. Most of these girls don’t have any assets nor are they being paid great salaries so you can’t fine them and as far as using the school as a reference, I doubt she will use them.
You also realize that the pay is only $1-2 thousand a month for 10 months. If you want the Morah to wait until after the school yearto get married you will need to bribe them . For example offer to pay for the wedding if she gets married after the school year. ( A small wedding can cost over $10,000 and up , which is almost the annual Morah’s salary) Another alternative, is to have a spare apartment which the newlyweds can live in for free until the end of the school year.
Even if the Morah signed the contract, if she gets engaged she should tell her employer. If they fire her and hold back pay she can sue them in civil court and/or go to Dept of Labor and get unemployment assuming she worked more than three months on the books. The Dept. of Labor will get her any back pay held by an employer. If she goes to a Jewish court the yeshiva may be forced to pay her for lost wages for the period of time from the date fired until the wedding and any back pay they withheld.
Abba_SParticipantThat is at least the third deleted post you have tried to repost. If you continue to resubmit deleted posts you will be blocked
Abba_SParticipantMA
The community is against it. They packed the zoning board meeting and it had to be canceled. Last meeting they had over 1000 people in a room that is suppose to hold 750, for safety issues they had to cancel the meeting.
Abba_SParticipantIt is a pyramid scheme. It maybe legal but just barely
Abba_SParticipantUnlike a private entity who must answer to shareholders, who may not want to protect board members, the Board of Education can spend their budget anyway they see fit so if they want to spend $2 million on legal fee they can. In theory since the activist are protesting at the board member’s private homes the board can hire private security to protect themselves both at home and at school meetings. Each Board of Education is audited every year by the state, besides last year’s fiscal school monitor’s report in East Ramapo , so if they misused public funds it would have been uncovered and criminal charges should have been brought. The only reason the state couldn’t take over the district is because no criminal charge was made now if you are saying they committed a criminal act why isn’t the state taking over?
As far as the new school monitor, Mr Walcott he has his work cut out for him. He can’t override the board as in Lakewood and he has to fix all the district’s problems. There are only two services that the frum community use, busing & special education both of which are mandatory and difficult to cut.
He must win over both the board and the public school supporters. If he recommends cutting school busing or special education, he will alienate the Board and the frum community and his recommendations wouldn’t be passed. Cut public school services and he alienates the school supporters and they will sue him too. I wonder is Mr Wallcott a district employee or a state employee and who will provide legal protection for him?
Abba_SParticipantAre you talking about it being a Chatziizah when wearing Tefilin or is it just the hair style and you are going in the way of the gentiles?
Abba_SParticipantBlubluh
There are signs in my shul reminding people to deposit used tissues in the wastepaper basket, but when I find a used one where I am sitting before davening, I just take another tissue pick it up and deposit it in it’s proper place.
You can waste a lot of time looking for a sefer but it only takes seconds to throw out a tissue even if it’s not yours.
Please note, if everyone who doesn’t put back a sefer and everyone who doesn’t throw out their used tissues didn’t come to shul,there might not be enough people to make a minyan. I am not complaining about either of these types, I am thankful that they come to shul.
August 12, 2015 10:00 pm at 10:00 pm in reply to: Limited Time Commission Opportunity – Huh? #1095552Abba_SParticipantI hope everyone makes a lot of money on this but I just think it’s a scam.
Abba_SParticipantTry the Sephardic Community Center on Ave S & Ocean Parkway or the JCC on Bay Parkway & Kings Highway.
Abba_SParticipantGavra
The Insurance Co. was not defending the Board the last time so they hired their own lawyers. I tend to doubt they would rely on any insurance company again to defend them in any case. The lawyers get paid by the hour so every time the activists file a suit it will cost the board thousands of dollars. This money is a valid board expense.
By the way the Board is appealing the verdict and is trying to get the insurance company to pay the full $2 million legal bill. What they should do is counter sue these activists for the board’s legal fees. This is the one of the ways to get them to stop. If you garnish their wages they may get the idea and stop filing suit.
Also I just read that the state is assigning a monitor to the school district. Let’s see how that goes.
The Board just has to ask (unofficially nothing in writing) the superintendent to plan cuts of $2 million from the public school’s budget to fund the board’s legal expenses for this year. The activist will file suit trying to block these cuts and depending on where the monitor stands the state could be brought into the case. Once they are involved the formula for funding the district can be challenged. In NYC they won a case and were awarded millions in additional funding.
Abba_SParticipantHappy Birthday
Abba_SParticipantThis is nothing new, when ever I see Siddurium or Chummashim lying on the table around me when I come to shul before davening. I put them back on the shelves. I only do it for the 5-10 tables near my seat.
Once one person does a few, others will follow and soon they are all back on their shelf. The problem is that it may be hard to find the right place, so if they are labeled with a shelf number or color coded it increases the possibility of it getting done. I have seen custodial staff putting them back.
You can either complain about the problem or do something about it. If you put just a “Few Seforuim” back others will see and follow suit. But if you do not put any back, nobody else will.
You are either part of the solution or part of the problem.
Abba_SParticipantShouldn’t the title be Accident in Arizona?
Abba_SParticipantJoseph
This is another impossible dream. The Government even under Obama has been deporting illegal aliens. The problems are:
A) Unless they are in jail even if they (illegal aliens)are caught they are usually let go and told to come back for their hearing, which most of them never show up for. The only way to show you really mean it is to keep them jailed until the hearing.
B) There is no real solid wall or fence dividing the US from Mexico or Canada so you can just walk across or swim in some places. A solid wall with trip wires are needed to prevent the illegals from entering the US. So even if you deport a few they just keep coming back. They have been talking about building a fence for years but nothing has been done.
Likewise, better control over people who remain after their visa expired is needed so that they can be rounded up and deported.
You are going to need a new police force and prisons just to handle this. But can we afford this?
August 10, 2015 10:35 pm at 10:35 pm in reply to: Limited Time Commission Opportunity – Huh? #1095548Abba_SParticipantThis is a marketing gimmick. They are encouraging people to buy the coins but at some point the bubble will burst and people will be left with over priced coins. As a general rule if you buy a coin from the US Mint you wouldn’t make money (the coins will not appreciate) unless you hold it for 10 years.
This also may not be the US Mint but a company that calls itself US Min, you have to look carefully and there are just getting people to buy their coins and once they are all sold out they will declare bankruptcy. In that case some of the people who sold the coins back to them are out not only their money but also the coins as they are unsecured creditors.
August 10, 2015 9:50 pm at 9:50 pm in reply to: But people don't get to choose their own schools in America #1097684Abba_SParticipantJoseph
I agree with most of what you said but using current law, a private school that is fully funded by public funds is labeled as a public school which is governed by the board of education or in NYC the Dept. of Education.
As I said before a tax credit program witch the yeshiva tuition is paid back to the parent as a tax refund is the way to go. But although Dov Hikind and Simcha Felder fought to have it included in this year’s NY State budget for a mere $500.00 per student it didn’t pass.
You say “The government cannot interfere with parents schooling choices or methodologies.” The state has the right to regulate that secular studies that are taught in yeshivas. This is the purpose of this thread.
I also disagree with your comments “All Taxpayers” are you saying non-taxpayer children are not entitled to an education or not entitled to school choice?
As far as getting the government out of the education business it is not going to happen, The unions are too strong to get this passed at least not in NY State.
August 10, 2015 9:08 am at 9:08 am in reply to: Shmuly Yanklowitz, Novominsker and OO theology #1095316Abba_SParticipantMy comment wasn’t meant to say people should buy at Amazon, it was merely telling people that in this day and age you are not locked into one source for your groceries. Sure you should support your local frum store but if you are unhappy with the quality or prices you are free to go elsewhere.
My interpretation was the writer was complaining about the cost of the extra hosgochia on Twizzlers. I believe someone else wrote that they could shop at Shoprite and their answer was they were a one stop shopper. I was merely stating that they could shop online too.
Once the Frum store owner realizes that he has competition he will try to find cheaper alternatives.
August 10, 2015 8:33 am at 8:33 am in reply to: But people don't get to choose their own schools in America #1097671Abba_SParticipantLess Chumras
You are correct that for the 2015 term they won enough seats to control the senate but just barely. They won 32 out of 63 seats and currently have 31 seats so they need the Democrats. Even with the one vote majority it’s hard to pass anything without Democratic support. The Democrats are controlled by the unions who are against any support for non-public education, that is basically what is blocking it.
Once the government starts paying for the children’s education they will want to micro managing what is taught and how much is taught. This is already happening in regards to pre-k. We don’t need it. A better solution is to grant tax credits for education. The parent or relative will get a tax credit on their income tax for tuition payments. The taxpayer will be subsidizing yeshiva education indirectly and not have the power to micro manage the yeshivas, just like than any other tax credit program.
August 9, 2015 9:50 pm at 9:50 pm in reply to: But people don't get to choose their own schools in America #1097668Abba_SParticipantJoseph
Back in the 1800 when the Irish who were mostly Roman Catholic, were coming over to NY, the Protestants who were the majority wrote in to the state constitution stronger language to separate church and state. So basically the state constitution has to be changed. The teachers union and other union whose member work in the schools know if school choices was ever available,it would be the end of public schools,their member’s job and their job at the union too. So they fight any type of funding for private education.
Right now the Democrats control both the assembly, the senate (all though some of the Democrats voted for a Republican leadership so technically the Republicans are in charge)and the governor is a Democrat. Nothing is going to be passed by all three bodies without the teacher’s union approval.
August 9, 2015 8:56 pm at 8:56 pm in reply to: But people don't get to choose their own schools in America #1097666Abba_SParticipantWriter
The government getting involved is just complicating the matter. I realize there is peer pressure on the parents to send their child to a certain type of yeshiva. But are you saying that all these people are in a cult and randomly give up their children’s future just so they will fit in.
I think they need to have a kiruv program. Just like there is a kiruv program for the non Orthodox. There should be a kiruv program where say on Shobbos or Sunday. Students from traditional yeshivas with a secular department learn with the students that don’t have secular education. Maybe even having learning contests with the parent attending. This will expose both the students and the parents to the concept that you can have a secular education and still be a Talmud Chocham. May of today’s Gedolim had secular education. I believe even the Satmar Rav, R’ Ahron had it.
The problem is the welfare state that we live in doesn’t really encourage productivity. In minority neighborhoods you have generation after generation on the dole. This is happening in our community too. It has to be, that going on government programs is look down upon. Otherwise why learn secular studies they are never going to have a job.
Abba_SParticipantThe Property has a certificate of occupancy as both a yeshiva and a dorm for up to 36 high school students ages 13-18. The new yeshiva wants to increase the number of student to 96 and the age to 18-26. So how can they say no dorm on Logan Road when the property already has a certificate of occupancy as a dorm.
One of the claims is there will be “96 undocumented students wandering the neighborhood and their daughters wouldn’t be safe”:
A)The students will be restricted to the yeshiva property
B)I have never heard a case of Yeshiva student abusing a non-Jewish females.
C) All the student are either Americans or have documents.
D) Questions as to safety should be referred to the Police Dept. not a Zoning Board.
If the Yeshiva goes to Federal Court using the Religious Land Use and Institutionalized Persons Act they will win. People’s environmental concerns will lose even though they are valid claims, because they are being lumped into with safety claims and using the zoning laws to restrict a religious organization as shown above is illegal.
August 9, 2015 7:20 pm at 7:20 pm in reply to: Shmuly Yanklowitz, Novominsker and OO theology #1095313Abba_SParticipantIf you only do one stop shopping and aren’t happy with the hemish hecsher or don’t like the price for Twizzlers try Amazon. I am sure they have them and they do sell many of the same groceries at a lower price and it’s shipped directly to you. I don’t know about their meats but for example many of the BJ’s are kosher on the eastern seaboard so it never hurts to ask. Amazon customer service is great so maybe they will get into the kosher food business. So you can order your groceries on Amazon and just do one stop shopping for meat, dairy and baked goods, less to carry home.
August 9, 2015 5:39 pm at 5:39 pm in reply to: But people don't get to choose their own schools in America #1097663Abba_SParticipantwritersoul
The point I am trying to make is it’s the parent’s job to choose a yeshiva for their child that will provide him with the skills to succeed in life. I made it my business to meet the teachers both in Hebrew & English to see how my kids were doing each and every time there was a parent teacher meeting. I also saw every report card and test, so I was able to judge if he was learning at grade level.
I don’t want the yeshivas to get additional aid, rather give the parents a tax deduction or maybe a tax credit for tuition paid to yeshivas for elementary & mesivtas.
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