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ZG, you are not up to date. Secular liberalism has become a religion complete with burnings of heretics at the (so far only on social media and in some courtrooms) stake.
Maybe it’s a punishment for loving the galut. Rav Teichtal says this about the Holocaust in Em HaBanim Semeicha.
Joseph, we follow them unless there is a clear contradiction to Halacha. for example, if a non-Jewish doctor says that a Jew must eat on Yom kippur he eats. Even where there is a seeming contradiction, such as the setting of the value of pi at 3, attempts are made to resolve the difficulty. Thus we see that their views are taken into consideration. Having written that, I will repeat that economists must also be heard as to the costs. There must also be free academic discourse and not, as some leftists have proposed, silencing anyone who disagrees.
CTL, the fact that the Noahide laws are not applied is a big problem.
Benig, what percentage of gun owners commit crimes with their guns? Moreover, criminals have never had a problem getting guns. Laws only affect law-abiding citizens. Anyway, now it is possible to print out a gun on the Internet.
Dor, there is no comparison. The German and Austrian Jews were exactly the type who could have helped the US economy. They were barred because of antisemitism and the pusillanimity of American Jews in high positions. What do you mean by “100% truthful”? They were not criminals or drug users c”v. Those who lied were Nazis.
Takes, the following article appears in Cross-Currents:
Moonlighting in Halacha
BY YAIR HOFFMAN · PUBLISHED FEBRUARY 6, 2014 · UPDATED FEBRUARY 6, 2014This past week a terrible tragedy occurred in Scotland regarding a medical doctor. It seems a doctor who was moonlighting did not inform his hospital that he was working another job. On account of his over-tiredness, he did not check that a patient was overmedicated. Nor did he check on the patient. The patient died, unfortunately. This incident highlights an important point in halacha.
The Bureau of Labor Statistics informs us that last year seven million American workers were working multiple jobs. Out of a total employed workforce of 144 million in this country that means that one out of 20 people at work are actually working double jobs. The question is: Are there any obligations from a halachic perspective that these workers have to their day-job employers? Indeed, is having the extra job permitted in the first place?
It is also interesting to note what types of jobs most people have as their second job. Some babysit, others bartend. Some cater. And many run an internet website (more on this as the article progresses).
There is a fascinating Tosefta in Bava Metzia (8:2) which tells us that a worker is not permitted to perform his own work at night time and then hire himself out for work in the daytime. The Tosefta thus introduces a fiduciary obligation placed upon the employee to his potential employer to make sure that he is sharp and alert for the work that he is to be hired to do. The Shulchan Aruch (CM 337:19) quantifies this as the halacha.
Rabbi Ben Zion Meir Chai Uzziel, the first Sephardic Chief Rabbi of Israel, writes in his Piskei Uziel (Sheilot HaZman #46) that this same legal theory also obligates the worker must also have a pleasant attitude in demeanor to his employer, fellow employees, and customers or clients.
Dayan Blau zt”l in his work “Pischei Choshen” (chapter seven) discusses a case where a fundraiser for one institution that paid for his travel expenses travels to America to raise funds and he moonlights for another institution. Dayan Blau forbids the practice. He similarly forbids other similar activities as well.
Aside from this, however, most employers nowadays have a published policy or handbook. Some of them do have formal policies on moonlighting. If so, then there is a halachic obligation to abide by this policy in addition to the halachic requirements. This is also prudent in New York State which happens to be an “at will” employment state where employees can be terminated at any time when faced with no employment contract.
There is, of course, an exception to moonlighting,at night when it is clear that the employer is not paying the employee a full-time salary, or when the employee is only part time. Then it would be understood that the employee needs to make another salary in order to pay the bills.
Many of the aforementioned moonlighters have their own business as a second job. There is a huge Yetzer HaRah to use the equipment and supplies of the day-job employer for this purpose – even if one only “moonlights” on the lunch or coffee break. This too is forbidden and is looked upon as theft in the eyes of halacha. If one needs to access the web for something not related to job #1, one should either bring one’s own iPad or ask explicit permission from the employer. Merely assuming that the employer would not mind is not sufficient. Also, the wifi connection itself may be problematic if it is not open to the public.
The Talmud (Bava Basra 88a) cites a debate between Rabbi Yehudah and the Chachamim as to whether one who borrows without permission has the status of a borrower or that of a thief. The Chachamim view him as a thief. The Rif, the Rambam, and the Shulchan Aruch all rule in accordance with the Chachamim.
The language that the Tur Shulchan Aruch uses (C.M. 359:5) is “Nikra gazal—he is termed a thief.” The question is whether this term is referring to a Biblical prohibition or a rabbinic prohibition. The Gemara (Berachos 6b) invokes this same expression to describe someone who doesn’t respond to a “hello”; if someone says hello to the other and the other does not respond, he is called a thief. Clearly in that case, this cannot be a Biblical notion, as there is no actual theft of property. This would indicate that the term only describes a rabbinic prohibition and not a Biblical one.
The Smah, however, one of the foremost commentaries on the Tur Shulchan Aruch, indicates clearly that he views the Tur’s words as indicating a Biblical prohibition (see note 12 on the Tur).
But wait! There is nothing missing here! How could he be considered a thief? He is a thief because he took without permission, even if there is nothing missing. The Rashba (Bava Metzia 41a) states this quite clearly, as does Rashi.
Often an employee may rationalize the amount of time spent on the computer as not being excessive. One must ask oneself the following question, however: Who is more likely to consider something as not being excessive—the employee or the employer? One does not have to be a rocket scientist to realize that the employer would be more likely to consider something as excessive than would the employee. And unfortunately for the employee, the ball is in the court of the employer on this one.
The second factor is the fact that it is being done on company time. In this regard, there are two types of employees: management-level employees and hourly employees. Clearly, an hourly employee would be illicitly taking money from his employer for any minutes beyond excessive that he has spent infosnacking on the Internet. (And no, the non-excessive minutes are not cumulative.)
A management-level employee who receives a set salary to make sure that a department runs efficiently may have more leeway in this regard, but it would still depend upon the employer. It would seem that there is an obligation to find out where one’s employer stands on such issues. [end of article]
Does that answer your question?
CTL, the definition varies from state to state. MN follows the halachic definition at least halfway (it is a question whether a secular law requiring a divorce decree has halachic ramifications for bnei Noach). This is also the Common Law definition. In any case, the sheva mitzvot apply to non-Jews whether they realize it or not. The Rema (Responsa 10) even says that their obligation in dinim requires them to adopt all of Choshen Mishpat (this seems to be Ramban’s opinion in his discussion of Shimon and Levy wiping out Shechem although some say that they can change from our pesak so long as they have some pesak and others say that they can do what they want so long as it is fair and equitable).
Benignuman, who says that these positions are against Torah? The Tanach relates that the Plishtim issued a weapons control law to keep the Israelites in check. We are also told that Hashem also gave certain lands to certain non-Jewish peoples.There is also
גבול שמת בל יעברון בל ישובון לכסות הארץ (Tehillim 104:10). As for climate change, that is a scientific and economic (cost-benefit) issue.correction: whose wife
I know someone whose wife’s name is Dina. He says “Dina d’malchuta dina”.
CTL, good luck on your appeal. You did call Bill Clinton an adulterer. However, so far as I know neither has been with another man’s wife so halachically neither is an adulterer. BTW, Bill’s moll excused his actions.
Akuperma, tzedaka is not the same as charity. A capitalist who starts a business and employs people who were unemployed (or someone who refers them to jobs) is giving the highest form of tzedaka.
Yserbius123, maybe because that party is also pushing social agenda that it anathema to Judaism – and trying to force everyone to adopt it. It has even gotten to the point where the U of Iowa is not allowing religious student groups (e.g. Xtian Fellowship) to restrict leadership positions to adherents of the relevant religions. Of course, just as there are RINOs there are DINOs who represent Orthodox communities on the state and local levels.
Ubiquitin, do Torah Jews (as opposed to am ha’aretzot – and yes, some who wear the uniform are am ha’aratzot) talk during davening? In any case, a chazaka can be overturned where we know that it is inapplicable. This was Rav Yonatan Eibeschutz’ reply to the Emperor who pointed out that they were the rove.
CTL,
1. You posted on November 27, 2018 at 7:13 am “The national Republican Party is the antipathy of Family Values. It ran a thrice married serial adulterer for President in opposition to a woman who was the victim of a husband who committed adultery.” So you each owe the other half an apology.
2. Your blanket refusal to dialogue with individuals (other than Joseph and Curiosity) is very childish. Would you refuse to rebut an opponent in court?NP, who says that they are entitled? When the limousine liberals will support low-income housing in their suburbs and chic neighborhoods, even if it means tearing down “landmarks” I will take them seriously. According to Halacha the highest form of charity is finding someone a productive job. Food stamps and other forms of aid should only be permanent for the elderly and disabled who cannot work. It does not mean making welfare a family business. I also does not mean trying to make one feel good about oneself. There is a story about a “baal chesed” who told no one about a poor acquaintance’s plight so that he could give him a gift every Purim.
CTL, i was wondering what was taking you so long.
1, The woman in question is his partner in crime – and defended him against very serious charges in this area). She also declared war on traditional religion. A man, BTW, is only an adulterer if his friend (I want this to pass moderation) is a married woman. If she is not Jewish she is not married once she walks out even if there has not yet been a court decree. There is no prohibition for a ben Noach to act like a rooster. I will admit though that I would have preferred Ted Cruz (and voted for him in the primary) but, as we say in Israel, zeh ma sheyeish.
2. Social Security is almost bankrupt because of Democratic largesse. The booming economy of FDR (who interned innocent Japanese, German and Italian Americans against the opinion of none other than J. Edgar Hoover thus freeing up a few hundred thousand jobs) did not start until the US went into a wartime economy.
3. Giuliani (please at least spell his name correctly) is not a typical Republican although he did a great job putting NYC on its feet and bringing crime way down).
4. Saudi Arabia is a bulwark against Iran. Churchill (if I were Scott Kelly I would have told the PC police that if they don’t like what I said they can lump it) said about supporting Stalinj ym”s “If Hitler invaded hell I would make at least a favorable reference to the devil in the House of Commons.”
5. Democratic judges (yes, judges have political viewpoints) would have trampled freedom of religion and speech.
Laskern, they tolerate Jews but not Judaism. In fact, they are enablers of campus hooligans who also do not tolerate Jews. Not to mention now having two supporters of terrorism in the House and another member who is clueless about the Middle East and a few other issues. These three stooges are the future of the Democratic party.
Neville,, on Nov. 22 he wrote “As for setting up a ‘moed’, there’s a long Jewish tradition of doing exactly that. Each community has many days that they celebrate or fast every year to remember this or that thing that happened since the time of Chazal.” This is still up as of this posting.
Apushatayid, what about watching the Macy’s parade on TV?
I would add that the Democrats are not content to trample on traditional values themselves but want to force everyone else to do so. Hillary said this explicitly shortly before the election. Even the Washington Post called her statement an attack on freedom of religion. On the other hand, Republicans and conservatives want to uphold these values, which are common to Jews and Xtians. IMHO this trend will continue as radical leftists take control of the Democratic party .
Neville, Milhouse did not mention a shul. He was obviously referring to commemorations such as as Purim d’Frankfurt)and Charlie was clearly referring to a shul which has been around for over 200 years – and is a very eminent shul with hallowed traditons.
CA, why? So she can decide when she wants to hear from him and when not?
Neville, regarding Tachanun, I am sure that some tzaddik was niftar on that day. Regarding Hallel, I understood that it is only for a miracle for all of Am Yisrael, like Yom haAtzmaut.
Yehudayona, PETA will picket any attempt.
Joseph, if you really want to do kibid em phone her.
Syag, there is a prohibition of establishing a new yom tov. However, a yom tov involves a prohibition of melacha (thus being that Purim was not accepted as a yom tov for later years there is no prohibition of melacha – Megilla 5b). There is no prohibition of melacha on Thanksgiving, just a day off from most jobs.
Joseph, of which spy are you a gilgul?
Akuperma,
1. So you believe in lifelong shnorring passed as an inheritance? Rabbenu Bachia and the Gra say that one cannot be called wise if one does not know the seven secular fields of wisdom.
2. Even if it is some nut shooting randomly the people are dead.
3. So come and vote for change.Takes. what about “hagaon”? They say that a Gaon is someone who never heard of Rashi or Tosafot.
Knaidlach, do you make them on Purim or Chanukah?
Mentsch, if Hashem exposed you to it it is for a reason. Perhaps you are supposed to uplift sparks of kedusha.
As a matter of fact, the Pilgrims considered themselves the new Israel, the King of England Pharoah and America the Promised Land. They emphasized the Tanach over the NT and even gave their children Tanachic names although sometimes translated into English and sometimes not (e.g. Increase and Cotton Mather were Yosef and Katan). The also stressed the idea of covenant and the autonomy of local congregations.
Maybe Hashem is telling you to make aliya.
Laskern, first of all it’s קשים not קשי. various other commentators say that it is a sin of the intellect, which is the tzelem Elokim. See “פרשת צו: מדוע הרהורי עבירה קשים מעבירה?” on hidabroot.org.
BTW, the ליצני הדור say about אם ראית תלמיד חכם שעבר עבירה בלילה – אל תהרהר אחריו ביום, שמא עשה תשובה that he wrote a teshuva proving that he was right.
Rav Soloveichik had a seuda himself. For a general discussion see Thanksgiving:Harmless Holdiay or Chukos HaGoyim on the Oht Sameach website.
Laskern, every aveira has an excuse. Those who do not keep Shabbat say that their careers require it. Those who eat prohibited foods say that they are cheaper and/or taste great. What is even worse is that some people find rationalizations in Torah. For example, I heard of an insurance company employee who filed false documents so that people he knew could get compensation even though they were not covered. He considered himself to be a big baal chesed.
Laskern, not i he hasa shetar. In any case, I was referring to falsifying requests for aid, cheating on taxes, etc.
Laskern, then you are saying that honesty is only an option? The Torah calls dishonesty in business a toeva (Devarim 25:13-16). What about chillul Hashem?
Laskern, Rambam also says that he will be a military man and arise in EY.
Ran, Rav Soloveichik said that this is the lesson of the Holocaust. In fact, every group of Jews were sure that the Nazis meant some other group, perhaps because they did not consider them to be “real” Jews. Many of the German Jews i, for example, thought that the Nazis only meant the Ostjuden, whom they also held in contempt.
Laskern, so why do you hate secular Jews? You are from Hungary. Did the Arrow Cross ym”s differentiate? How, just out of curiosity, do you define “frum”? What about someone who rips off the government and/or other people?
Laskern, did you inform them that they are adopted? Are they biological siblings? If not a rav should be consulted regarding issues such as yichud.
Neville,
1. The Yiddishists were even worse.
2. Actually there was a big debate among the Zionists between Yiddish and Hebrew. Hebrew won out because it is the common language of all Jews.
3. It seems to me that you are being loud. Did I touch a nerve? I just cannot understand this phenomenon. I do admit that I am annoyed by maggidei shiurim who assume that everyone understands their Yiddish phrases.Laskern, what about ראשי תיבות?
Mobico, I also heard that. I also heard that some do not like the idea of a child saying it for that reason. BTW, the Gra did not sing ברכוני לשלום because we do not make requests of angels and the Chatam Sofer did not sing צאתכם לשלום because we should not throw them out.
Smerel (were you demoted from your chieftainship?), forthat matter some tunes come from Russian and Polish folk songs and marches of Napoleon’s army.
DY, I am not a hater c”v. You are over on hotzaat shem ra (although of course I forgive you). I simply think that it is a shtut and that we should move on. We certainly should not have nostalgia for one of the worst periods in our history.
Neville, I even gave it three days. I never said “Death to Ashkenaz”. In fact, my nusach Ashkenaz (of EY). I just think that creole German should be allowed to pass into history. I really do not understand this tendency to hold on to a remnant of a dismal past. Someone should do a doctorate on it. BTW, other posters here have started threads with names like “The Casualties of Yiddish in Litvishe Chadorim”and”Down with Yiddish” so I do have like-minded participants.
What about Ladino converts? Even better Hebrew converts. Rav Ovadia says that anyone who converts in EY must become Sephardic.
The big problem is inadvertently saying apikorsut. For example, in keriat shema saying that Hashem נשבה לאבותינו instead of נשבע. Those who have trouble with the “ch” sound say מקלקל עולם בהסד. See also Megilla 24b.
Laskern, in order to want to be POTUS it is almost necessary to have a big ego. Why else would one want the enormous headaches. If the leftists get their way no one else will want any public service job. people can’t eat in restaurants in peace without these hooligans harassing them. Trump is indeed very problematic personally but he is our problematic person. The Dems will force everyone to bow down to their idols. Hilary Clinton said so explicitly.
Adocs, the Iranians are from Yephet. They are part of the Indo-European peoples and their language is related to European languages. In any case, Eisav and Yishmael could be ideological groups. Rav chaim Brisker says this about Amalek.
Dor, you are half correct. Rambam says at the end of Hilchot Melachim that we have no desire to rule others. However we were not chosen merely to serve Hashem. Every creature was created for that purpose. We were chosen to bring ethical monotheism to the world. How is another question. Rav Hirsch says by being part of their societies. Rav Kook says by building a state in EY. The YU sheeta is two centers. The US and Israel. There is also a discussion as to whether we should actively missionize for the sheva mitzvot.
Laskern, the best way to support the poor is to give them productive jobs. This is done by the free enterprise system deregulation and tax cuts that encourage investment. The Democratic welfare state has not only made welfare a permanent “profession” passed down from generation to generation but has destroyed low-income families.
Jackk, FYI three Senate races are still undecided. AZ and FL are very close although the Democrats are trying very hard to steal them. MS is going into a runoff.
Adocs, the Iranians are from Yaphet. Both anthropologically and linguistically they are related to the Europeans.
Dor, it could be that Eisav is not an ethnic group but an ideological group. Rav Chaim Brisker said this about Amalek. Really, it is very difficult to claim that the Europeans are literally descended from the Edomites. According to Kabbala Eisav is the perversion of din (kelipat hasmole) so any group that uses Law to oppress us would be Eisav (e.g. the Nazis ym”s who first made laws before taking official antisemitic measures). Yishmael is the perversion of chesed (kelipat hayamin) so any group that fights us by doing chesed with our enemies would be Yishmael.
FM,
A syllogism reaches a conclusion. It does not pose a question. One of the valid forms is: All P are M. Some S are not M. Therefore, Some S are not P. In the terms of this discussion, All of Hashem’s creatures are recipients of Hashem’s goodness. Some people are not recipients of Hashem’s goodness. Therefor some people are not Hashem’s creatures. This, in fact, is the root of theological dualism.
You are √2 contends that being that the conclusion is incorrect something other than the major premise is incorrect, which is not logical. It is also not what √2 is contending. Rather √2 contends that we cannot know why Hashem created the world and thus sidesteps the question.
However, the answer is that we do not know what is ultimate good. For example, if a rasha dies young he does not further dirty his soul. It may even be an atonement. Moreover, if a person dies before his time because of some decree on the public or misuse of free choice he might get another chance by coming back.
Jackk, recognizing jerusalem as Israel’s capital, shutting down the Fakestinian office in DC, scotching the Iran deal and turning the screws tighter, pushing UNRWA, which supports terrorism, to the brink of bankruptcy. getting Abbas to reject the “deal of the century” before the details are already announced, a booming economy, appointing two defenders of religious freedom to SCOTUS and dozens of conservatives to lower courts (ken yirbu).
CTL, that is also an accomplishment. It means no delays for the conservative judicial train.
Laskern, then you will vote for Trump in 2020 bli neder?
Rabbi Steve, I take it it was permitted to clap because it was for a mitzva.