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Those who went OTD would have gone OTD anyway. There are also plenty of Chareidi kids who go OTD. In many cases, having no job skills, they turn to crime.
HaKatan,
In Rav Elchonon’s time, the term dati leumi did not exist. It was invented as the name of the new political party formed by the merger of Mizrahi and HaPoel haMizrahi in 1955. BTW, the leader of the Aguda in EY, Rav Y.Y. Levin, signed the Declaration of Independence and ran with both Mizrahi parties in the first Knesset elections as the United Religious Front. And yes, I disagree with those gedolim. There is a long list of gedolim who disagreed with them. As an aside, the Mir yeshiva went to Shanghai against Rav Chaim Ozer’s pesak. When asked about it years later, one of the rabbis quipped that daat torah had not yet been invented.
Tell me, what do your gedolim say about Internet usage?
Ex,Ctl, so far as I know only one Justice cannot define a woman.
UJM, who says that they are learning and not just registered in yeshivot? I suggest testing them. Those who don’t make the cut enlist. That would take care of manpower needs and then some. This would be a leniency as in a milchemet mitzva, everyone will goes (Rambam, Hilchot Melachim 5,1 and 7,4).
HaKatan, the longest rebellion against HaShem is anti-Zionism, which led to a plot to turn Eretz Yisrael over to our enemies so that the lead conspirator could continue his toeva. It is continuing with refusal to do the great mitzva of defending Am Yisrael.
Alwayaskquestions, the Chofetz Chaim moved to Radin in 1869. After WW1, Radin became part of independent Poland. Check your facts before posting.
A goy told his Jewish neighbor how much he enjoyed Shabbat. When the Jew told him that he was not allowed to keep Shabbat, he responded that he carried his siddur to shul. “But there’s an eruv”. “I don’t rely on it”.
When the Reformers sued to prevent an eruv, the non-Jewish judge asked how much it would cost the taxpayers, the lawyer for the eruv committee responded that they would pay a rental fee. The judge told him to put up two.
SomeJewIKnow, if they leave, how will they rule?
FYI, no non-Jewish ruler has done anything except persecute Jews. Mark Twain, in fact, commented that when he visited in 1867 the Land was barren. The Zionists made the desert bloom and created a regional powerhouse.
The State of Israel is a reality. That is why our enemies are going crazy. They realize that the Geula is progressing (See Yerushalmi, Berachot 1,1 that it comes slowly, in stages) and are trying not desperately to stop it. The Turks tried and lost their empire. The British tried and the Sun set on theirs. So too, all our enemies, including the Erev Rav Moshe and gilgulim of Datan and Aviram, will fail.
HaKatan,
1. What about Rav Kook, Rav Shlomo Zalman Auerbach, Rav Mordechai Eliahu, Rav Zevin, Rav Soloveichik, etc,,etc.?
2. Rav Ovadia said that if not for the IDF, there would be no yeshivot (see See Sanhedrin 49a). The IDF s now facing a severe manpower shortage. We cannot afford to exempt more than a very small elite, who can be a branch of the IDF Rabbinate. The rest can be in various types of Chareidi units. Military intelligence is especially suited for those with Gemara heads (there already exists such a unit ) and is also a pathway to good jobs.
3. What do your gedolim say about Internet usage? Just curious.
Rambam, Hilchot Melachim 3,2
וְשׁוֹלֵחַ בְּכָל גְּבוּל יִשְׂרָאֵל וְלוֹקֵחַ מִן הָעָם הַגִּבּוֹרִים וְאַנְשֵׁי חַיִל וְעוֹשֶׂה מֵהֶן חַיִל לְמֶרְכַּבְתּוֹ וּבְפָרָשָׁיו וּמַעֲמִיד מֵהֶן עוֹמְדִים לְפָנָיו. וּמַעֲמִיד מֵהֶן אֲנָשִׁים לָרוּץ לְפָנָיו. שֶׁנֶּאֱמַר (שמואל א ח יא) “וְשָׂם לוֹ בְּמֶרְכַּבְתּוֹ וּפָרָשָׁיו וְרָצוּ לִפְנֵי מֶרְכַּבְתּו”ֹ. וְלוֹקֵחַ מִן הַיָּפִים שֶׁבָּהֶם לִהְיוֹת שַׁמָּשִׁים וְעוֹמְדִים לְפָנָיו שֶׁנֶּאֱמַר (שמואל א ח טז) “וְאֶת בַּחוּרֵיכֶם הַטּוֹבִים” (שמואל א ח טז) “יִקָּח וְעָשָׂה לִמְלַאכְתּוֹ”:
Ibid 6,1
וְאֵי זוֹ הִיא מִלְחֶמֶת מִצְוָה זוֹ מִלְחֶמֶת שִׁבְעָה עֲמָמִים. וּמִלְחֶמֶת עֲמָלֵק. וְעֶזְרַת יִשְׂרָאֵל מִיַּד צָר שֶׁבָּא עֲלֵיהֶם.Ibid 7,4
בַּמֶּה דְּבָרִים אֲמוּרִים שֶׁמַּחְזִירִין אֲנָשִׁים אֵלּוּ מֵעוֹרְכֵי הַמִּלְחָמָה בְּמִלְחֶמֶת הָרְשׁוּת. אֲבָל בְּמִלְחֶמֶת מִצְוָה הַכּל יוֹצְאִין וַאֲפִלּוּ חָתָן מֵחַדְרוֹ וְכַלָּה מֵחֻפָּתָהּ:The Netziv (Heemek Devar Devarim 17,15) and Rav Kook (Miushpat Cohen 144) say that any leader chosen by the public has the status of a king for these matters. Rav Schachter quoted Rav Yaakov Kaminetzky as telling his grandson that if lived in Israel, he would be obligated to serve. He hs a shiur on e subject which can be heard online. Rav Zevin also condemned draft dodgers. You can read it (“R. Shelomo Yosef Zevin on the Drafting of Yeshiva Students” (TRADITION, Fall 1985)) online.
The fact is that nobody goes OTD because of the IDF. They would have gone OTD anyway,as anyone who lives in a Chareidi area knows.
Nu, and Rav Schach said similar things about Chabad. The fact is that far greater rabbis, such as Rav Kook, supported Zionism, and particularly Religious Zionism.
Phil Chernofsky, the retired Education Director of the OU Israel Center, gave this mashal:
Three brothers were injured while playing in the street. After a long hospitalization, they were released but needed further treatments. One thought that being released was sufficient. One thought that having to undergo further treatments meant that there was nothing to celebrate. The third thanked Hashem for comin g so far and prayed for a complete recovery.
Why does Malchut Bet David require dismantling Israel c”v? France is now on its fifth republic (constitution) without being dismantled. Satmar, l’havdil, has already been dismantled. There are two rebbes who are at odds with each other. For example, in 2016, one endorsed Hillary Clinton so the other endorsed Trump. They even battled over assets in a secular court.
HaKatan, are you bringing up that canard about the three oaths again? I have already debunked them here several times.
1. Reish Lakish said the opposite *Yoma 9b).
2, Rav Chaim Vital said (Intro. to Sefer Etz Chaim 8) that they were only for 1,000 years.
3. Rambam does not pasken them in Mishna Torah. Neither do any of the Rishonim, Shulchan Aruchm Rema, and Achronim. Ramban (Sefer haMitzvot, Mitzvot that Rambam “forgot” 4) says that it is an obligation in our time to conquer Eretz Yisrael.
4. The other nations broke their vow several times (Crusades, Chmielnitzki massacres, pogroms, Holocaust). Thus, the deal is off.,
5. Rav Meir Simcha said that the San Remo Convention revoked them as it is no longer “rebellion”.
6. Rav Solovichik said (Kol Dodi Dofek) that Hashem has called.They themselves do not believe that they are on that level, If they did, they would not run when there is a siren. In any case, there is an obligation towards one’s fellow Jews (see Rambam, Laws of Kings 7,4).
1. One can also be charged multiple times for one sin. This is discussed in the second perek of Makkot.
2. Free speech is a two-way street. Jews may yell for the expulsion of all Arabs or the total destruction of Gaza. I presume that arrests were made because of the lack of permits.
3. Yes. Otherwise, the government will be able to tell us anything and everything.1. See Yoma 9b that there was tremendous anger at the Babylonian Jews for not making aliya en masse.
2. See Ramban, Sefer haMitzvot, mitzvot that Rambam “forgot” that there is a Torah obligation in our time to conquer and settle Eretz Yisrael.
3. Rav Soloveichik said (Kol Dodi Dofek) that Hashem has knocked. Just look at the Land giving forth its fruits (Sanhedrin 98a with Rashi d”h meguleh mizeh).
3. BTW, the Jewish National home was supposed to include both banks of the Jordan River as well as Gaza. Jordan is the real Palestinian state as it was part of the Ottoman province of that name.
Aira, please cite where Rav Moshe’s alleged teshuva appears. I find it very difficult to believe that he would write something like that. Besides, doctors and nurses can certainly find professions that pay at least equally well, without the crazy hours and astronomical malpractice insurance premiums caused by juries who think that they are doing chesed by giving out huge awards.
In any case, Chazal say that it is a mitzva (Sukka 25a). See Nishmat Avraham, OC 38,6 in the name of Rav Yitzchak Zilberstein that this is even if they are paid.
Pappas ben Yehuda kept his wife, Miriam Magdalei Neshaya (the Hairstylist), locked up at home. That is why she went OTD. – Gittin 90a
Hakatan, how is it more frum not to mention women? One newspaper printed Caroline Glick’s column under the byline C. Glick ( wonder if their Tanachs refer to Devorah as D. and their gemarot refer to Beruria and B).. That is not frum. It is silly and a chillul Hashem as it makes Judaism look ridiculous.
Aseh, actually Jewish men have had to listen to their wives since Hashem told Avraham to listen to Sarah. In some cases, aman who wants to change his trade (e.g. become a tanner) needs his wife’s permission.
Mazal tov.
The subject is RFK, Jr. Besides continuing his family tradition regarding women, he is a conspiracy theorist and anti-vaxxer who has made antisemitic claims. Apparently, he is still suffering from the traumas of his father’s assassination, being packed off to a surrogate family due to his mother’s inability to run the family and years of drug abuse.
From the Merriam-Webster dictionary:
The word itself was adopted into English (via Latin) from Greek Exodos, which literally means “the road out.” The Greek word was formed by combining the prefix ex- (meaning “out of”) and hodos, “road” or “way.” Other descendants of the prolific hodos in English include episode, method, odometer, and period.
The maamin knows that we are obligated to do hushtadlut. Chazal call looking for a miracle where we can do this troubling Hashem.
The idea is to show them that Judaism is the root. Moreover, it’s allowed to teach them the details of the sheva mitzvot. According to some, a mitzzva. While not all agree, the Rema says (Responsum 10) that the mitzva of dinim includes all of Choshen Mishpat. A goy who learns Torah is like the Cohen Gadol 9Avoda Zara 3a). The Meiri differentiates between a goy whose interest is purely academic and one who seeks the truth.
You really started off Elul on the right foot with your hotzaat shem ra.
At one time, Jew” was considered pejorative. The polite words were “Hebrew” and “Israelite”. I guess that going back to the latter is not politically correct in some circles.
Are the haskamot really haskamot or just berachot? In any case, I do not interpret aggadatot literally (see Rambam’s intreduction to Perek Chelek). It is very dangerous to apply this practically. This is how a certain other religion started.
Avira, as with everything else, a person must use the fifth section of the Shulchan Aruch. If the victim does not know about it (e.g. someone said lashon hara about him), forgot about it, or would be embarrassed by it being recalled, one should not talk about it. The idea is to fix the harm that was done to him.
Avura, according to Ramban, conquering EY is a Torah mitzva. Rambam. Even according to those who only look at security, we cannot give up land. Look at what happened when we gave up Gush Katif. Obviously, war overrides pikuach nefesh of individuals.
So far as the O.P.’s question is concerned, there are a number of rabbis who alternated between the Mir and YU. I would imagine that the same is true of other Lithuanian yeshivot. Orthodoxy is represented by, to borrow a mathematical term, a continuous distribution, not a discreet distribution.
Akuperma, do they really? A certain financial criminal is not only unrepentant but is being lionized as a miracle worker. Many others who are not caught are proud of fooling the government. They think that they are really smart.
Avira, there are two types: one who only has SSA and another who also has a normal side. In fact, a certain religious Israeli singer announced that he has SSA but is married, has children and is completely loyal to his wife. Rav Shmuel Eliahu said that he should be given full shul honors. See Pirkei Avot 4,1.
A frum Jew in orbit would have to constantly daven as it is always the zeman below him. The big problem would be saying Kiddush Levana on the Moon. How can he say that he cannot reach it even if he would jump?
Reagan said that the scariest words in the English language are “I’m from the government and I’m here to help you”. On the hand, Chazal saay that if not for fear of the government, people would swallow each other alive. It depends on how much government.
BTW, it’s “or whom is my government working?”
What about someone who wears the uniform but is a baal lashon hara and hotzaat shem ra, especially about Eretz Yisrael (the Ben Ish Hai says that this includes the residents), or who commits financial crimes and not only does not do teshuva but is lionized and held up as a miracle worker?
Rav Kook said that we should also love non-Jews (Middot haRaya, Ahava). Rav Ovadia permitted saying a “mi sheberach” for a ‘םומגקג Druze soldier and a hashkava for the Druze police officer killed in the Har Nof massacre as they do not worship idolsץ Rav Moshe allowed honoring a non-Jew who benefited the Jewish community. Chazal instructed us to give tzedaka to non-Jews, to visit their sick, and to comfort their mourners as the Torah’s ways are ways of peace. This would seem to be in line with the comment seen by the O.P.
Of course, As Rav Tzvi Yehuda (Kook) said, this does not obviate the halachot regarding distancing ourselves. This is a dichotomy of Judaism. On the one hand, we are universalists, and on the other hand, we are particularists.
The Gaonim never heard of Rasho o rTosafot.
I do not believe all he scare stories bandied about by leftists. In fact, several investors expressed interest in investing in Israel and did not even mention the reforms. However, if a consensus can be reached, it will be better. If we can finally have a constitution, it will be even better. The problem is that Lapid, Gantz & Co. want to oust Netanyahu more than anything.
The Knesset reconvenes after Yom haAtrzmaut. The reforms are already tabled and ready for enactment. If there is no progress, Netanyahu can pass them and blame the Opposition.
Avira, did you ever hear of “eilu v’eilu”? Full disclosure: I do not go up on Har haBayit but those who rabbanim allow it should be allowed to do so. This ship sailed ninety years ago. The Mufti ym”s threatened dire consequences if the Jews would not admit that the Kotel is theirs. The Breitish and certain ghetto Jews pressured Rav Kook and Rav Sonnenfeld to agree. Both steadfastly refused and the threat dissipated.
Avira,
1. DeHaan was writing libelous articles in gentile European newspapers. Being that I want my response to be published, I will not denote his motives. They are well-known. Rav Sonnenfeld wanted unlimited Jewish emigration and thought that he could get it by giving up on the idea of statehood. However, the Arabs knew that at some point they would not be able to hold onto control. They never would have agreed. Thus, the Faisal-Weizman Agreement also failed.
2. If frum Jews had come to EY en masse as Rav Kook urged, Israel would have been a Torah state from the beginning. Instead, it is taking longer.
3. The rest of your post is nonsense. Shuls in America have police guards. A frum Jew who works in the general job market just might be fired for speaking against toeva. The media constantly attacks Orthodox Judaism. Assimilation is rampant and also affects the frum community.Historian,
1. The State of Israel is a Torah commandment (see Ramban, Mitzvot that Rambam “Forgot”).
2. As for the hareidן community, Rav Kook explains that this approach made them unable to start the Geula rolling. They were passively waiting for Mashiach to fall from heaven. However, we must do hishtadlut as in everything else. They did not want to revach v’hatzala came from others.
3.Tell me, would you have advised Yehoshua bןn Nin to try to make peace with the Canaanites? Would you have advised David haMelech to take peaceful steps to avoid the Plishtim’s hatred?correction: Rav Sonnenfeld wanted unrestricted Jewish immigration.
What does DeHaan’s killing have to do with the IDF? The O.P. has an emuna issue. DeHaan would have failed even if he had lived because he was trying to stop the Geula (for ulterior motives, which are well known). Similarly, the Hashgacha put Rav Kook, who had the right citizenship, in London to lobby for the Balfour Declaration and kept the anti-Zionist German rabbis, who had the wrong citizenship, from going there
The author was a prominent talmid chacham who founded the Michlalah in Jerusalem. I someone disagrees, so he can also write a sefer. Notthat I am comparing, c”v, but Moreh Nevuchim was burned and all of Ramchal’s books were banned.
As for haskamot, please cite where Ramban says this. It would apply to all sefarim today as no one gives a real haskama. They give berachot. BTW, the mekubbalim starting with the Zohar say that Hashem runs the world through intermediaries. The Jewish people in Eretz Yisrael are an exception. The Rivash objected to the idea of sefirot (Responsa 157) but there are other legitimate opinions.
I also have my doubts about this story. The father and uncles did not do a melacha themselves. Even if they did, it would at least be permitted בכדי שיעשה .