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oh scratch that. i got into will hill. and i got to see joseph’s profile. had to go backwards for both of them.
btw there are a few that i can’t get on to. like WILL HILL, for example. AHEM!
lol really! ok so moderators 1, 2, and 3 and their boss. who taught you how to count?!
so who else? i checked on a couple of others. so far joseph is the most suspicious. how DID he get in and clear his profile?!
so what did i say about joseph?!? i’m so brilliant i could probably learn gemara! (i’m JOKING! and if a wasn’t i would save it for another thread :-))
except for one thing. will hill, i got into joseph’s and he’s been on here for two years and he posts on every thread. you’d think his profile would be full, no? well it’s EMPTY! what does that mean???
will hill
beautiful hack. how’d you find it?
“I don’t know anyone who knows. Anyone who does know doesn’t say, and anyone who says doesn’t know.”
just heard it at a class. if anyone knows if it’s a real quote or if there’s a source, let me know.
see what i mean? joseph’s trying too hard to get us to think he’s a moderator. he’s either and idiot or he’s brilliant. so, joseph, which are you?!
i have a sneaking suspicion that NEITHER Joseph OR Rabbi of Berlin are really moderators. i may be wrong but they’re probably friends from before and made a deal not to tell anyone that they’re just regular mambers on this site… especially since people are always hinting that they think they’re moderators…
what do you think? i could be totally off… but for some reason i think not…
what happened to “nashim daasan kalos”? (don’t attack me! this is a VERY strong-minded thread!)
oh my bad! must’ve miss-read it! thanks for the clarification.
now that makes more sense. but how do you explain the hidur mitzva in marrying a pretty girl?!?!
anyone notice that we hear mostly from moderators 72 and 99? are there really that many or is that a fancy way of saying “moderators 1 and 2”?!?!?!
could you clarify? kollel wives outlearn men in what? gemara or secular studies?
(i’ve refrained from posting on this thread cuz i don’t know enough about this issue. but i’ve been following and i just had a question. so no one attack me, please!)
KolMevaser
Don’t kid yourself. You think people care about beauty in a marriage cuz it’s a better way to do the mitzva?!?! I find that VERY hard to believe. I never heard the shiur you’re talking about, but I can imagine that sentence was taken out of contex. Or maybe he was trying to tell people how to elevate the mundane. If not, I think that comment need major clarification.
Or was that some random comment that had nothing to do with shidduchim???
you think rabbi of berlin is one? seems like he’s joseph’s best friend!
joseph
why? i mean, i see a little bit of what you’re saying but you probably can explain it better.
i guess they’re petrified cuz they controlled the situation and are responsible for this marriage… if it doesn’t work they got their daughters into hot water so they’re begging for rachamim from hashem…
000646
it’s not that they don’t know. le’havdil, the reform movement was run by brilliant men. they knew torah cold. that’s the only way they were able to thrive. would you call them gedolim?! no way! but no one ever said they were amei ha’aretz!
le’havdil, any modern orthodox rabbi might be brilliant. and he might even know shas. but he’s still not on the same level.
notice one thing. who are usually the ones arguing with gedolim? very often it’s the small-time rabbis. the other gedolim (who are far more competent) accept a gadol’s p’sak more easily. not that they never argue. but at least they’re better equipped.
not necessarily. a rav doesn’t always know you like you know yourself.
I never said it was “right” or that we should encourage it. But you don’t have to kill yourself over something you have absolutely zero control! The kid is gonna do it with or without your concent. The only difference will be is how much he hides it from you.
And like a said, it does really depend what it is that they’re smoking. Two of my brothers smoke cigars on a regular basis and they claim it does no damage to the human body.
And I know this is so Brooklyn to say but at least it’s doing it in class!
personally, i think smoking is the most disgusting thing on the planet. but madshtark’s right. i think cigars and not really harmful. and a few cigarettes (i can’t even SPELL it!) a year won’t do any harm.
kitzur.net
what’s the diff. between “entitled” and “titled”?!?!
…when you read this thread and say to yourself “this is the best one I’ve read so far.”
000646
THAT was actually an opinion. You know what? I take it back. Let whoever wants to argue with Rav Moshe. I just hope no one gets offended when they realize they’re not taken seriously. That’s all.
but what does “trying to be a better jew mean?” it means being a torah jew! and a torah jew keeps mitzvos to the BEST OF HIS/HER ABILITY!
no i wasn’t officially engaged so i believe i didn’t have to. anyway now that he’s married i’m POSITIVE i made the right decision.
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how many people are on the level to argue with a someone like rav moshe? intellectually? not so many, but you might find a select few. however, to argue with a man like that you can’t just be a genius. you have to be a gadol.
maybe i’m being closed minded but i’m gonna say this anyway: i don’t believe there are any modern orthodox rabbis that are up to disagreeing with rav moshe. not that they aren’t smart or knowledgeable, but they’re definately missing something. you can’t even compare.
and besides, i said if someone’s gonna try to argue, at least bring a source. cuz no one on this site is great enough for their personal opinion, that’s for sure.
Gila, read through Rav Hirsh’s work on tzaros.
You can find it in Horeb titled “Training Through Suffering”
Am I too late?!?! Looks like I’m always late in posting. I guess that’s what I get for being YW’s newest member… anyway I’m obviously from Brooklyn and no I’m not 19. Just don’t tell my students that – they waste their lives trying to figure out my birthday and year… anyway… I’m kinda in denial so I’ll be brooklyn19 till I’m married. And then hopefully I’ll be “yerushalayim__”
mrs. beautiful:
first of all, rav wolbe says that there is one thing in life that no one can tell you what to do. parents or rabbis can not instuct anyone on who they should marry. so that whole bit about listening to parents doesn’t apply when it comes to marriage.
now, i understand that parents can help guide their children. but i must say they are not always right. and i respect rabbonim greatly but they don’t always know YOU. i broke off a shidduch on my own despite the fact that my mother thought i was insane. and i spoke to a very chashuv rav (widely known but i think i shouldn’t post his name) three times. all three times he disregarded my concerns and told me to go ahead with the shidduch. should i have listened? maybe. i would’ve had a good marriage. but i know myself well (maybe too well!) and i felt it wasn’t right. besides, how much responsibility do you actually want to hold for your children’s marriages?!
hey for all you femenists:
A femenist is speaking to a group of women about the importance of signing prenuptials. After half an hour one women says, “ok you have me convinced. Let me just double check with my husband…)
I just got on here and I know I’m cropping up in middle of an (obviously!) animated discussion. But one quick question. (even though I have a million comments and questions)
What genius has the chutzpa to argue a Rav Moshe?!?!?! It’s not like it’s even in the name of another gadol. At least name a source if you want to be taken seriously!
intellegent – easy. the more healthy a food is, the more it will cost you. i guess junk doesn’t cost much because in case you haven’t noticed, they throw it in for free! so when you’re standing on line at the supermarket just take a quick glance and make sure you only have junk in your cart. but like everything else, there are costs and benefits. chances are your doctor visits will go up…
This one’s pretty recent: “can we do it?” “yes we can!”
~Barak Obama
~Bob the Builder! 🙂
I know. That’s why I specified that I’m not compromising on that either. But what do parents want? Middos. Someone who will take care of their daughter. Any normal person wants that. And yes, parent can sometimes see things young girls can’t. But realistically speaking: who goes on the date? who REALLY gets to know the guy? and whose life is it anyway?
I don’t think there’s a right and wrong. It’s natural for a guy (or his parents) to lean towards the prettier/easier picture. But just realize that it doesn’t necessarily mean life will be easier.
Hey if a girl is mature enough to be married, she’s mature enough to have say in who she marries. True, not all girls are old enough to get married, but that’s a seperate issue. And yes, all parents want good husbands for their daughters. But there’s more to life than middos and learning (and no, I’m not compromising on that either!)
All this is very nice except there are still a million (well maybe not a MILLION!) guys out there who won’t consider a shidduch before knowing how much support they’ll get. And they sincerely believe it’s coming to them. My brother even told me that Rabanim tell the “best boys” to marry rich girls so they could stay in learning. That’s beautiful, but they forget the fact that rich girls are not necessarily the ones who help their husbands learn in torah. Sometimes (NOT ALWAYS!) they are spoiled and their husbands end up going to work faster than girls who were raised more simply. But realistically speaking, money IS usually a big deal. And it’s kind of nausiating.