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February 4, 2009 5:51 am at 5:51 am in reply to: The Mods Schedules #831370

flatbush27
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i wonder what they do during their 3 hr breaks

February 4, 2009 5:45 am at 5:45 am in reply to: Jeans #664898

flatbush27
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there are other materials that are suitable for working. denim isnt the only one. my goyish mechanic doesnt always wear jeans and he seems to get things done just fine

February 4, 2009 4:37 am at 4:37 am in reply to: Smoking vs. Bochurim on the Internet #638927

flatbush27
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tt: the rabbonim and gedolim have said that its assur. i do not have their teshovos in front of me to tell you their proofs on why its assur. but if you think its mutar then why just on purim do you say its mutar? everyday should be

February 4, 2009 4:29 am at 4:29 am in reply to: Jeans #664886

flatbush27
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cantor: “I think G-d is glad I came”

so why not on shabbos and yom tov?

February 4, 2009 4:25 am at 4:25 am in reply to: Jeans #664884

flatbush27
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people keep saying not to judge the person on how he dresses. Why not? the reason for this halacha is to distinguish us from the goyim. and everyone judges by the way people dress. if someone sees a teenager wearing dark pants and a white shirt smoking, he’ll say why is this yeshiva bachur smoking? why would someone assume hes a bachur. maybe hes just wearing the same uniform and really works in a supermarket but nobody thinks like that. the fact is we do judge by dress. would you be surprised if you saw your rav wearing jeans and a t shirt? i hope so but why should you be if you dont judge by the way a person dresses. the fact is someone should think before he dresses. we as jews should not wear jeans because its goyish just like goyish music and a million other goyish things. who cares if presidents wear them! its still goyish.

February 4, 2009 3:59 am at 3:59 am in reply to: Smoking vs. Bochurim on the Internet #638922

flatbush27
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its not mutar on purim. its just accepted

February 4, 2009 3:57 am at 3:57 am in reply to: Jeans #664882

flatbush27
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thank you mw13. dd: please read the posts that you are about to attack a little better

February 3, 2009 3:37 am at 3:37 am in reply to: Post Here – So We Know You’re In The CR #903890

flatbush27
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HERE!!!!!!!how do i unregister myself? howd u do that? hes not even a member!! howd he get on?? conspiracy?? ALIENS!!!!

February 3, 2009 3:08 am at 3:08 am in reply to: Jeans #664814

flatbush27
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anon; i agree with you. But where is the line drawn? I think in many communities this ‘line’ is drawn at wearing jeans. i have no idea why. when a teen wears them hes looked at like hes making some sort of a statement. But the people looking down at him for wearing them are wearing the latest suits and ties fresh from italy so what does this halacha mean

February 2, 2009 11:31 pm at 11:31 pm in reply to: Smoking vs. Bochurim on the Internet #638902

flatbush27
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azi: start acting your age and not your IQ. you continue to put people down to promote your opicorsis opinions on Judiasm. You say you have a seder and went to BMG. why should anyone here believe you? you could be a married, retired old bubby. and if its true then your here all day and night minus your 4 hrs.

February 2, 2009 1:29 am at 1:29 am in reply to: Smoking vs. Bochurim on the Internet #638880

flatbush27
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“Your close and personal friend Joseph seems to spend much of his waking hours on YWN”

who you kidding azi. your here plenty. good for you and your 4 hr seder. is that where you think of all your anti-gedolim and anti-torah ideas”.

January 30, 2009 8:56 pm at 8:56 pm in reply to: Smoking vs. Bochurim on the Internet #638858

flatbush27
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mw 13. looking at certain things ( figure it out) IS an issur dioraysa and meeting different ppl in chatrooms can and does lead to the worst aveiros in the torah. if you deny that you are truly naive

January 30, 2009 8:49 pm at 8:49 pm in reply to: Good Shabbos! #1135427

flatbush27
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you 2 teen and everyone else. may it be uplifting spiritually and may everyone have awesome food cause i know i will!!!!

January 30, 2009 8:15 pm at 8:15 pm in reply to: Smoking vs. Bochurim on the Internet #638856

flatbush27
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tentwenty: yes they do need internet with a filter or other method. agreed. but they are not full time yeshiva bochurim. i am talking about bochurim who learn 3 sedarim a day and are not in college

January 30, 2009 7:10 pm at 7:10 pm in reply to: Smoking vs. Bochurim on the Internet #638852

flatbush27
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tentwenty. the internet is defitely too valuable a tool to just throw away but not for yeshiva bochurim. they dont need it at all and shouldnt be on it

January 30, 2009 5:52 pm at 5:52 pm in reply to: Smoking vs. Bochurim on the Internet #638849

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gavra. i dont have an ulterior motive nor am i smoker. i do not condone smoking as i said earlier and agree completely with ssiy that its assur to smoke near ppl. who dont like it. i just feel he and other ppl. who are learning full time should not have internet in their house or be using it. when your learning you need to shut out the outside world and concentrate completely on learning and the internet is the biggest ‘outside’ thing that turns peoples mind away from learning

January 30, 2009 5:01 pm at 5:01 pm in reply to: Smoking vs. Bochurim on the Internet #638844

flatbush27
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and sisy stop trying to save the velts tzaros before you start workng on yourself and the fact that someone who is supposedly learning full time has internet in their home which is the worst thing in todays society as said repeatedly by the gedolim. the reasons you stated for having internet are meaningless. they are just excuses. ask your rosh yeshiva, R Nosson Tzvi Finkel if its ok for you to have internet and come back to me.

January 30, 2009 4:14 pm at 4:14 pm in reply to: Smoking vs. Bochurim on the Internet #638840

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sisy: im not sure why being an avreich learning full time makes a diffrence of you having internet. a bochur and an avreich should both be learning full time but maybe you forgot your makom and the fact that someone (your parents, or your in laws) are supporting you even through these tough times. i think the gedolim have more pressing issues at hand than your problem which is people smoking near people who get bothered by it ( which is a very valid problem). you say that most americans have internet. so what. that reason for you to have internet is ridiculus. boruch Hashem your not from the tri state area. you wouldnt last a day here.

you also say “there are many pitfalls that one can run into on the Internet and I would hope no one ever does, but at least that person has the chance to correct any mistake he did by doing Teshuva”. that is completely anti torah. would you give your teenager son his own laptop with internet and not supervise him at all and say its ok because at least he coul do teshuva. when you do an aveira and say to yourself, i will do teshuva afterwards so its ok, the teshuva does NOT work.

Our Torah is a Toras Chaim you can be the biggest Masmid in the world who unfortunately is using the internet, which the Torah that you are learning says is assur.

January 30, 2009 4:48 am at 4:48 am in reply to: OnlySimchas #1026601

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mazal: as i said b4, most of the simcha listings do not have pics, so the site should cater to the majority of users who obviously do not want to see pics so let OS just cancel the pics

January 30, 2009 4:38 am at 4:38 am in reply to: Share Cholent Recipes? #1038131

flatbush27
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i am eating cholent right now!!! i put it up like 7 hrs ago on the stove then swithched it to the blech. the cr should stand for the cholent room starting thursday till motzai shabbos

January 30, 2009 4:34 am at 4:34 am in reply to: Smoking vs. Bochurim on the Internet #638831

flatbush27
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gavra. i personally know ppl. who have been kicked out of the mirt the mir has mashgicim who check on all the deeras very frequently. it is not nearly as hefker as it used to be. and ppl. will always break the rules in any yeshiva if they want to.

azi and tentwenty. i think the cr is a bit too right wing for you.

January 29, 2009 9:48 pm at 9:48 pm in reply to: OnlySimchas #1026592

flatbush27
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i think its the lax in attitude towards certain aspects of being a Jew that we are seeing more of recently. this chill out and relax attitude i think is coming from the american society. people keep saying here that stop making up chumros while in reality its halacha and telling themselves that its only a chumra and only lakewood does it. just because you feel for whatever reason this and that is not for you doesnt make it a chumra.

January 29, 2009 8:58 pm at 8:58 pm in reply to: OnlySimchas #1026588

flatbush27
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yossiea. your may be right about the papers but i think in todays society to be a little overprotective about this wont kill anyone and if people go off thats their own fault not hamodias and there is usually a deeper reason for them going off

January 29, 2009 8:11 pm at 8:11 pm in reply to: Smoking vs. Bochurim on the Internet #638808

flatbush27
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Editor: how do you know that? no one here is denying smoking is assur and dangerous. as not pashut said before r shmuel said “that the internet is the single greatest destroyer of frum families in our generation”. i dont think R Shmuel said that about smoking which would prove you wrong

January 29, 2009 7:59 pm at 7:59 pm in reply to: OnlySimchas #1026585

flatbush27
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your completely right oomis. i just feel the majority of people who use and visit the site do not post pics so the site should cater to the majority

January 29, 2009 7:12 pm at 7:12 pm in reply to: Smoking vs. Bochurim on the Internet #638801

flatbush27
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i agree with holtz all the way and the lakewood and kollel crowd doesnt really have a problem marrying these types of bochurim who smoke a couple a day or a couple a week. they usually quit before marrige anyway.its a bigger problem if they go on the internet. and all the girls who said on the ssiy thread they and their freinds dont even look into smokers, i think those girls arent looking for a lakewood type guy who will sit in kollel. theyre looking for guys who are in college or working so smokers in that category is alot less than the smokers in lakewood so they are right, why should they take a smoker? the bottom line is a yeshiva bochur has no valid excuse to be on the internet and id rather him smoking occasionaly than being on the internet

January 29, 2009 6:43 pm at 6:43 pm in reply to: OnlySimchas #1026582

flatbush27
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RI- its called hichos shmiras eiynayim. id like to keep it better as its not a chumra. its halacha. personally those pics dont bother me but halachikly it should. that is why hamodia, mishpacha and other like papers dont have any women in it.

January 29, 2009 6:31 pm at 6:31 pm in reply to: Smoking vs. Bochurim on the Internet #638799

flatbush27
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jphone. no one in todays day and age need to go online to find out that smoking kills. if they dont know that they dont dont know obamas prsident. what are you smokin virtually? all i said is a couple cigarettes here and there is not as bad as coming on to the internet because there are so many tests and dangers that bochurm can fall into. if you cant figure out what they are then i guess you need the internet to tell you smoking kills

January 29, 2009 5:56 pm at 5:56 pm in reply to: Smoking vs. Bochurim on the Internet #638794

flatbush27
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gavra: what are you talkin about? the rules of the deera and dorm are the same

daniel breslaur: if you actually believe what you wrote i seriously feel bad for you. the internet is one of the worst tests to teens these days and it could to the worst aveiros. smoking one cigarette never killed anyone. if you want say if somebody smokes one he will become hooked, thats ridiculus because we all know so many people who smoked a couple cigarettes a year.

veryrandom: you make complete sense but only from a bochurs standpoint. im sure you meant that though.

azi: “Students in Harvard rest from their studies, a yehiva bachur is no different and people should stop judging them. The people who stand behind him and whisper in his ear tell him everyone is evel and that the internet is all eveil, so what else would he say? “

yeshiva bochurim are supposed to striving to become bnei torah and talmidei chachamim. any jew, yeshiva bochur or not is 100 percent different from a goy in harvard. there is no comparison. and your “wall” is that you think the ppl whispering in his ear dont know what their talking about so then you dont trust gedolim. do you listen to them about kashrus and other matters but not by things you dont agree with like internet? Judiasm is not pick and choose.

amichai “what are you doing in new york? they need people like you in kiryat sefer!”

they need less people like you in the upper east side and teaneck

January 29, 2009 6:53 am at 6:53 am in reply to: Speaking Out Against Smoking in Yerushalyim #635242

flatbush27
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“turnedoff: maybe ssiy came online JUST for the purpose of making others more aware of the dangerss and insensitivity of smoking (around others) – which IS good reason

It’s actually a very important issue that needs to be addressed. Maybe on this website it can be a waste of time – only cuz the people who read it seem to be more or less uneducated.”

that is not a good enough reason for mir bachur to be on line especially if “on this website it can be a waste of time”. Let the Gedolim and the rebbeim and higher ups continue to work against the smoking issue like they previously have against the internet issue which ssiy apparently ignored

January 29, 2009 6:40 am at 6:40 am in reply to: Speaking Out Against Smoking in Yerushalyim #635241

flatbush27
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if you plan on going up to people and telling them to go away and stop in the mir area or for that matter anywhere in israel i dont think anyone will listen to you and its easiar for you to just keep walking by and not be bitul zman or bitul tora. i agree with you but your plan aint going to work in my opinion but good luck anyway

January 29, 2009 6:31 am at 6:31 am in reply to: Share Cholent Recipes? #1038117

flatbush27
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so where is the next best place in boro park these days. i never go there anymore but i so cant wait for tom nite

January 29, 2009 6:23 am at 6:23 am in reply to: Fired or Laid Off from your Job?? #635133

flatbush27
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thats why we need you qwertyuiop. with your help the coffee room can become like dunkin donuts and 7/11. open 24hrs.

January 29, 2009 6:21 am at 6:21 am in reply to: Smoking vs. Bochurim on the Internet #638782

flatbush27
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i agree with yankdownunder

January 29, 2009 6:03 am at 6:03 am in reply to: Share Cholent Recipes? #1038114

flatbush27
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is deli52 back open? i love their overnite kugel and cholent

January 29, 2009 6:00 am at 6:00 am in reply to: Fired or Laid Off from your Job?? #635129

flatbush27
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apology accepted. not a problem. if you read hamodia somebody wrote in to mr shmutter that he was very upset that he made fun of ppl out of their job. mr shmutter responded sometimes its good to joke about certain things to take the pressure off. but the thread has also been used seriously if you read through it. and i loved some of your jokes in that other thread. but ‘seriously’ if a PT job opens up here for a new mod i’ll try to keep you posted 😉

January 29, 2009 5:46 am at 5:46 am in reply to: Fired or Laid Off from your Job?? #635126

flatbush27
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we need from 2:30 AM till 7:00 AM. Coffee drinking on the job is mandatory. Can you start tonight?

January 29, 2009 5:31 am at 5:31 am in reply to: Words or Arrows #635147

flatbush27
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myself definitely included, people have no busha of ruining their name or rep because everyone here is annonymous. also i feel if you dont personally know the other person your talking to its easier to get nasty than with a friend per say. i will start trying to be nicer in my posts although usually i am not the first to act

January 29, 2009 5:19 am at 5:19 am in reply to: Fired or Laid Off from your Job?? #635123

flatbush27
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whoa bas yisroel, take a couple jokes. if you want a job here just ask nicely

January 29, 2009 5:10 am at 5:10 am in reply to: Speaking Out Against Smoking in Yerushalyim #635236

flatbush27
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bacci-most yeshivas these days have banned smoking in the bais medrash

January 29, 2009 4:46 am at 4:46 am in reply to: Fired or Laid Off from your Job?? #635121

flatbush27
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rosh hashiva-hey i thought your a rosh hashiva why would you want to be a mod? 🙂

January 29, 2009 4:40 am at 4:40 am in reply to: Speaking Out Against Smoking in Yerushalyim #635234

flatbush27
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mrzee- 2 bad you dont speak english or understand english cause apparently you cant read my posts and understand them and your posts dont make much sense

January 29, 2009 4:24 am at 4:24 am in reply to: Speaking Out Against Smoking in Yerushalyim #635233

flatbush27
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frumgirl ny- all smokers know it kills. your not enlightening anyone. they continue to smoke because they are ADDICTED! me and you dont understand it but obviously nicotine is very hard to quit. i have read alan carrs book, the easy way to quit smoking and would suggest it to smokers out there

January 29, 2009 4:20 am at 4:20 am in reply to: Speaking Out Against Smoking in Yerushalyim #635231

flatbush27
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misterzee. i do not smoke nor did i ever. i am not sure why you think i do. and i just feel all smokers know the dangers so if they do it we cant do anything to stop them. we could tell them to stay away from nonsmokers who dislike it and try to prevent young smokers

January 29, 2009 3:52 am at 3:52 am in reply to: Fired or Laid Off from your Job?? #635116

flatbush27
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rosh yeshiva: sorry you feel left out that your not part of the cr conspiracy. applications can be obtained from mod-25 and mod-72

January 29, 2009 3:32 am at 3:32 am in reply to: OnlySimchas #1026571

flatbush27
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teen. to prevent the plenty of sickos out there, banning pics will solve that problem among others

January 29, 2009 3:30 am at 3:30 am in reply to: Smoking vs. Bochurim on the Internet #638775

flatbush27
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tentwenty: another voice of insanity.

January 29, 2009 2:50 am at 2:50 am in reply to: Smoking vs. Bochurim on the Internet #638773

flatbush27
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yea syrian. if your caught in the mir with a laptop your chucked. why is that? do they not trust their bochurim to check only the news?

January 29, 2009 1:57 am at 1:57 am in reply to: OnlySimchas #1026565

flatbush27
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im going there to see if the random people are engaged. i dont need it for the important people. whats wrong with that?

January 29, 2009 1:54 am at 1:54 am in reply to: Smoking vs. Bochurim on the Internet #638769

flatbush27
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sorry to be so blunt but apparently i put my trust and faith in Gedolei Hador and you dont
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