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Tora Yid- “This isn’t any secret and can be confirmed by numerous talmidim of theirs first-hand. Btw, who is “AJ”?”
Rav Berel’s son.
BT guy -“Parents want their kids protected, but the fact is, what goes into those syringes is not 100% kosher.
Many things are included, for cost and convenience which are said “the risk of what the vaccine protects outweighs the potential complications “
I can understand parents wanting to take ZERO risk for the healthy development of their babies. Most of us can understand that.”
Tell these parents we don’t live in Utopia. They should grow up and realize -you can’t create a 100% safe drug or vaccine! But it’s still better to vaccinate than Not!
“I can also understand the confusion that there exists viable medical information and studies by professionals supporting any and all views.”
Name one study that says -Not to vaccinate? I don’t know of any. The one that there was -was retracted!
Ok – it’s a Machlokes between the animal in Pa. and the one in SI, NY. The one over in NY says -early spring.
PBA -“Too long. That is why we are bankrupt from supporting people in retirement from 65-85.”
I disagree. Ad Meah V’esrim. They just shouldn’t retire till around 80-85! Boy would we have an unemployment problem! And what would the Pres say then?
cherrybim -“Fine, so where is that again?”
I discuss the Halacha in detail in the topic I started called -“Who wants to be a Tzadeikes like Rus?”. You should find it there.
GAW -“Why not? Mitzva Ba’ah LYadcha Al T’Acher! Al Tomar Ephne V’Eshne Shema Lo Tipane!”
Ok your opinion is – there is nothing wrong with a shotgun wedding?!?!?!
You seem to be the only one with this opinion!
“IMHO of a divorced guy vs. their own Rov. ’nuff said.”
You posted to me, not to a Rov -so I gave you My opinion. Noone told you to take it over a Rov’s opinion. If you wanted a Rov’s opinion -you should have asked one! This is My opinion! Makes No difference to me whether you take it or not!
‘Nuff said!!!!!!!!
DY – “It might only be muktzah because of the issur of amira l’akum.”
I hold like the Shittos -Ameira L’acum B’mokom Tzorech Godol even by a D’oraysa is Mutter!
“How do you get around bishul aku”m? I thought you had conceded that.”
No, I didn’t. What I concided on was that electricity is an Issur D’oraysa. I’ll refresh your memory:
From page #4 -“DaasYochid -“Health,
The Aruch Hashulchan is only matir if it’s an employee, and one of the factors is that a Jew will likely aid in the cooking, which certainly can’t be said in this case.”
My reply:
“The Rishon who this comes from is not Mechalek. Also, the Jew helped by making the Chulent and putting it in the crockpot.
And there is a Kal V’chomer -If an employee is Mutter because you won’t get close to him because he is getting paid, for sure some stranger off the street whom you won’t probably ever see again -you won’t get close to.” (The last reason of course is only talking about cooking in the Jew’s house.)
“I wasn’t bringing a proof from that specific din; I was demonstrating that there is chiluk between tzrochim.”
Ok, so what? What does this have to do my case of the crockpot?
“Because how a situation came about has no bearing on how big the tzorech is; many cases of tzorech gadol are caused by a peshiah, and it has no bearing on possible heter.
The case of the refrigerator, where one neglected to remove the bulb before Shabbos, is clearly a peshiah, yet is considered a tzorech gadol.”
Again, if you want to ask on those Shittos from 253 -go ahead.
But my case -I didn’t Matir in a case of Peshiah. So there is no problem with my case to 253. S’A 253 is a case of Peshiah -they knew from the git go that the fire might go out and therefore they arranged with Goyim to move it -if it does. My case is a total Oiness, no Peshiah!
This Chiddush of his -I actually find very amusing and I don’t know why. Perhaps I have a weird sense of humor?!
coffee addict -I think if the driver said e/o buckle up at the begining and s/o older than Bar/bas Mitzva didn’t listen -they are a Garmi and not a Grama and therefore be Chayav to pay!
Hermione -“I was just given prednisone”
Oh it will work, but I would not take it only if I tried everything else first. It’s a last resort medication. Did you try all the drugs I mentioned?
Prednisone is a steroid which Has side effects. Look it up online -Rxlist -is a good place to look it up. It’s so powerful- to stop it -it has to be titered down.
Zdad -“Rav Yaakov Kammentzky according to his son wanted to see the moon landing see if the Rambam was false. So he watched the landing on TV and saw the moon landing.”
Are you trying to say R. Yaakov held the Rambam was wrong?
I’d like to say I have No controversial opinions. All my opinions are 100% Emes! 😉
netazar -“health- “lifnei michshol”? Do you mean “lifnei iver”?”
I stand corrected. Thanks.
frumnotyeshivish – Do you really believe that smokers have the same chance of coming down with heart disease as Non-smokers???
AbA -“The Chovos Halevavos in Shaar HaBitachon says that there is only a chiyuv hishtadlus for shmira for a hezek matzui. And getting into an accident where someone gets hurt is not a hezek matzui.”
I consider it Motzui. Motzui doesn’t mean it happens every day to every other car. Motzui means it’s common. And yes it’s pretty common for car accidents to have injuries involved!
Tora Yid -“and the chofezt chaim came in and said, “kook Shmook!” and then he left.” (As related by Rav Berel Sooveitchik zt’l.)”
I heard B’shem AJ – that he is going around saying the story with
“Kook, Shmook, Book”! Did you hear it directly from Rav Berel?
AOM -“When it “hits the fan” here in the “medina shel chesed” as r’l I’m afraid it is soon going to do,”
First of all, the third world war will probably start there, esp. since they want to attack Iran. It will most probably be safer in this Golus till Moshiach comes.
Second of all, if the Jews here are so scared about this Medina -why do they keep voting lib/democrat? Even though everything is in Hashem’s hand – we are Mechuyav to make Hishtadlus. And right now the candidate who likes Jews the most is N. Gingrich!
So I’m sure you will vote for him, right?
skiaddict -“There is a lot of evidence proving that many seemingly innocent vaccinations are in fact a risk, and can cause serious conditions,including autism, even death although that is rare.”
Most of your statement is blatanly false.
“A doctor i know personally is extremely against giving children these routine vaccinations, because of the amount she herself has seen occurring from them.”
She is incompetent. No normal medical professional holds this way.
I do believe you said you live in the UK. So wake up people -keep Mr. B. Obama in office next year and we will have socialized medicine. No more immunizations -our socialist gov. can’t afford it – just like they do in England.
“Besides for the fact that very often these vaccinations do not help, as there are so many strains of every disease and its practically impossible to be vaccinated against them all, and very often children who have been immunized against a disease will get it anyway.”
So do you think more people will come down with these illnesses or less if they bother to get vaccinated??
“Most of these diseases are unpleasant but harmless, and getting them gives a much better lifelong immunity than a shot does.
I personally had all these diseases when i was a kid, as did many of my cousins and siblings, and honestly, we are all totally fine, the only effects are a much stronger immune system bh.
Like i said, its unpleasant, but not dangerous, and the risks of the vaccines are very real, and many ppl just do not want to take risks with their kids.”
And again your statement is false! The risk of contracting the disease outweighs the risk of the immunization. This is basic medical theory. In other words, there is a bigger chance of dying from the disease than from the shot! This is why the gov. pushes people to get vaccinated!
Red nails -“Like Whooping Cough/Pertusis,”
This epidemic isn’t really due to the fact of Non-vaccinating parents as opposed to the other epidemics.
I’m jealous. When I was a kid there was no such thing as Mid-winter vacation! It’s a new invention. We also, at least in 7 & 8th grades, had less than 4 weeks of summer vacation. (I don’t remember earlier.)
yichusdik -“Health says “if they aren’t frum, who cares?”…”And now I understand your posts and your perspective on a whole range of issues much better.”
Actually, you probably haven’t read too many of my posts -I’ve been very open about my Shittos all the time!
“sums up the weakness of too large a proportion of the chareidi velt. The gemoro tells us kol yisroel areivim ze bazeh.It didn’t specify only the frum.”
What you call weakness – I call Halacha! It actually does only apply to Frum Jews. But to know this – you have had to learn a lot. Halacha says many places that Not-Frum Jews aren’t considered part of Klal Yisroel. I’ve discussed this many times here in the CR. I’ve posted there is No Chiyuv to make anybody Frum and even by Tinok Shenishbas it’s only an Inyan (or Mitzva), No Chiyuv, to be Mekarev them! (See Rambam.)
GAW -“OK, why haven’t you done so?”
Oh – you got me here on this one. Now let me think -Ok I got it – because I don’t believe in a shotgun wedding.
“As long as their Rov tells them not to settle.”
Well if the Rov is telling them not to settle in their twenties -Ok. If the Rov is telling them not to settle in their thirties -Ok in very extenuating circumstances. If they hit 40 already, unless there are other issues besides settling, and the Rov still says not to settle, then IMHO he is Oiver L’fnei Michshol!
cherrybim -“There is no chiyuv for a female to marry.”
I think you posted this already. I’ll repeat also:
S’A argues on you and says there is a Chiyuv!
(S’A -stands for Shulchan Aruch -this is our code of laws for those that believe in Torah and Halacha!)
DY -“Even if you’re not allowed to use it, and your plan was based on an error in thinking you were?”
I don’t know what you’re saying here -in my case there is No Issur -not Ameira L’acum, not Bishul A’cum and definitely not Muktza.
If you did have a case of some cooking that is Ossur to eat -then the Muktza should fall into the category of Kli Shmelachto L’issur.
“I’ll grant you that problem, (and I’ve already demonstrated that there’s a sevara to be mechalek between ,food and other items)”
So you aren’t really granting me anything because you still think your Sevaros apply in this case.
“but there’s another problem as well; not every tzorech is the same. See M”B 307:23 where the distinction is not in the issur, but in the tzorech (which mitzvah).”
Why must you grasp at straws? This is Not the way to prove s/o else wrong!
#23 is going on the Mechaber of “V’yesh Oisrin”. The very next line – the Rema argues. So you’re trying to “prove” me wrong by a Shitta that argues on the Shitta I’m Soimeach on. I think I’m a little, tiny bit smarter than that.
“Go ahead.”
I’d go ahead if you explain me why you don’t understand. To me it’s very clear cut!
DY -“I don’t understand your point; are you claiming that raw, inedible food is not muktzeh?”
When you plan on using this raw food -it’s not Muktza.
Did you ever learn Hilchos Muktza?
“Then you have no right to extrapolate to your case, as per the M”A I quoted earlier.”
I have every right.
“one still cannot extrapolate from one case to another. The Mogen Avraham says this regarding a shvus (307:7) and it would certainly apply to a d’oraiso.”
Another misinterpretation on your part! I’ll even explain why! What’s the problem with learning one Shvus to another? Simple because not every Shvus has the same reason why it’s Ossur -so you can’t learn one from another. On the other hand -if something is a D’oraysa and the Goy can do this D’oraysa for a Jew on Shabbos, then they can do any D’oraysa for the Jew as long as the circumstances didn’t change.
“That doesn’t answer my question.”
And I thought I did! If You Want to Clearly Elaborate what you mean -I’ll try to explain it better.
cherrybim -“There is no chiyuv for a female to marry.”
oomis1105 -“Check your halachic facts first. Only GUYS have a chiyuv to get married.”
Halacha News Flash:
Check your facts – Women have a Chiyuv to get married!
I discuss the Halacha in detail in the topic I started called -“Who wants to be a Tzadeikes like Rus?”.
Sam2 -“Health: What Chiyuv does a girl have to get married?”
S’A Paskens there is a Chiyuv!
“Also, if she doesn’t find the right one then are you saying that she should just marry someone anyway?”
Eventually they have to. As long as the person meets the criteria defined in S’A!
GAW – “Waiting for the right one.”
Sorry, I agree you could wait a little bit, but for how loooong?
They are supposed to get married at 12. They wait to 18 for maturity. Some will wait for a college degree till 22 or a little older. That’s why I posted -“Nowadays that point would be sometime in their twenties.”
“IIRC you have mentioned you are divorced. Why do you not pick the first girl out there as well?”
And who says I wouldn’t????
DY -“Excellent! You were m’chavein to the Chazon Ish’s question (59:4).”
So what’s his answer?
“What was so unique about your case that it was more of a tzorech than any other case of not having a cholent, in which all the poskim are only mattir a shvus d’shvus?”
I already answered you that the cases I’ve seen in S’A are talking about a Peshiah -so you can’t use the excuse of Tzorech Godol. If it’s a 100% Oiness then you could use the excuse of Tzorech Godol. (Like in my case.)
Maybe you could ask on the Rema’s case of lighting where R. Moshe learns that they had the Goy come in to light the Shul and this was planned. How does R. Moshe’s Pshat agree with S’A 253?
DY -“Are any of them to cook a cholent?”
I dunno. I haven’t seen every one of his Teshuvos.
DY -“The food was put on the fire before Shabbos, so it’s not muktzah. In your case, since food was not on a fire, and it’s assur to ask a nochri to cook it, it’s muktzah.”
Ah- please, we are talking about Muktza here – nothing to do with a fire. At the time Shabbos came in was the food raw or not? Yes it was -so why isn’t it Muktza acc. to you?
The only P’shat that makes sense is like me!
yitayningwut -“What about the appalling attitude of overly obese people?”
This is what happens when they have too many Kosher Dunkin Donuts, even now in Lakewood. [:)}
Maybe I should become Cholov Yisroel?
GAW -“I hope you practice what you preach, even if it isn’t totally correct halachicly. She can wait for the right one, like Benos Tzelafchad (who were praised for not marrying less than 40, since their motives were good).”
I wrote in my topic of “Who wants to be a Tzadeikes like Rus” -you can wait up to a point. Nowadays that point would be sometime in their twenties. There is No Raya from Bnos Tzelofchod because they had an opposing Mitzva -so there had to be a compromise. What Mitzva does a regular girl have which would be in opposition to the Chiyuv of getting married?
Hey e/o -What’s the big DEAL????
BTGuy -“The good thing about Deal is it’s not too far from Lakewood.”
I agree.
“Milchig-wise, Circa (Clifton Ave South) and Pizza Place (in West Gate) cannot be beat!”
And the reason I agree is because the Deal food places are so much better than the Lakewood ones!
Go to JSOR web page/site for all the kosher eateries in Deal and surrounding areas.
bochuratheart -“Smokers smoke so that for each puff they take, they can be Mevatel a Mitzvah Aseh de’Oraisso of “veNishmartem Me’od leNafshoseichem
147.. y dont u tell this to rav kaduri,rav shach,reb moshe”
As far as the OP -it depends. If the guy is blowing his smoke right onto s/o else then it’s disgusting. If he is a few steps away -then I don’t see the problem. If it bothers you that much – move out of his area.
As far as the Gedolim Matiring smoking -I doubt they would Matir it nowadays. At that time noone knew about second-hand smoke. But nowadays we know there is such a thing and unless the guy Never (impossible) smokes next to s/o else -he is a Mazik. To be Matir smoking because of Hakol Doshin Bo is one thing (regarding V’neshmartem), but there is No Heter to be Mazik anyone!
DY -“the MB says the Mechaber doesn’t hold of this Taam.
Because we don’t have to assume it was raw, but raw, inedible foods are muktzah.
Because who is doing the cooking? The goy is. In my case it’s the Jew.”
What – you don’t know basic Halachos of Muktza? When the Goy is cooking the food it’s not on your mind so it’s Muktza. If you cook it (even through a goy) then it’s on your mind and it’s not Muktza. Just as a Raya that your writing Shtus -the PHS writes Vol. 3 Chap.6 #18 (E) -“The food in the crock pot must be completely cooked or completely raw -i.e. -the raw food should be placed in the pot as close as possible to Shabbos.”
What happened to Muktza? How can you eat this food?
“I misunderstood your case; if you did the cooking, then I guess you were oiver an issur d’oraiso.”
Ha Ha -You’re a stand up comic. ROTFL! Then again all your “Halacha” posts are very funny/amusing.
“But he says/brings many cases of Ameira L’acum that he is Matir in situations of Tzorech Godol. Check it out!”
“As I said, there was no answer.”
The Debrecener brings other cases of Tzorech Godol which pushes off Ameira L’acum even where the Melecha is D’oraysa! Not just by Kovod Habrious!
“If the R’ma were mattir a d’oraiso for the mitzvah of oneg Shabbos, this would be true even for a healthy adult.”
It is true in a case of Tzorech Godol, but the case of the Koton is just a Tzorech, not a Tzorech Godol. If the case was what you are presuming that the Koton is starving -then this would be – Sakana Nefoshos. A little kid can’t fast a whole day. The case is talking about the kid is being picky – even so Ameira L’acum is Mutter because a kid has a Din of a Choleh Shain Bo Sakana. The way you learn up S’A is amazing. You put in Pshat into cases that it doesn’t say and then you use them as Rayos to say I’m wrong.
How could you say that the Koton really has nothing else to eat, but this isn’t considered Pikuach Nefesh?
“Tzorech Shabbos is Not Tzorech Godol!
Then I guess you didn’t have a tzorech gadol.”
Sometimes Tzorech Shabbos can be Tzorech Godol -like in my case, but not all the time!
adams – And I don’t want to keep Kosher!
If this person is Frum -then they have to get married whether they want to or not. It’s a Halacha. If they aren’t Frum -so who cares?
Sam2 – Sorry taking on s/o’s Shitta about one thing doesn’t make you a Talmid. I forgot what it is , but a poster asked s/o here if they did some Chumra that R. Kook had and he didn’t answer. If you’re a Talmid -you follow all his Shittos, not pick & choose!
Sam2 -“Health: I don’t recall seeing any mention of a Sha’as Had’chak, but I will admit that I haven’t looked at it in years. It could be he thinks it’s Muttar even when easily avoidable. In fact, that makes the most sense. Negiyah Derech Chibah is Yeihareg V’al Ya’avor. We wouldn’t be Mattir it just for convenience. This is a case where it’s either Muttar Lechatchilah or Assur B’dieved and there can’t be a middle ground.”
I’m pretty sure R. Moshe only Matirs B’shas Hadchak. I don’t think anyone holds it’s Mutter L’chatchilla!
“And some of us follow the Torah because it’s what HKBH wants from us, not to get a reward in an afterlife.”
Most don’t! You have to be on a very high Madreiga to do it totally L’shishma.
Josh31 -“The reality is that you cannot force someone else to move to the back of the bus,”
Noone is forcing anybody -they are asking!
“but:
You can avoid sitting next to them if you move and sit in the back of the bus.”
They can do this, but it brings up other Halacha problems. So it’s easier if the women move to the back.
zahavasdad -“So in the first statment you said its Not the Halacha and in the second paragraph you said it WAS the Halacha
You cant have it both ways. Either its not the halacha or it is the Halacha.”
I thought I was pretty clear. The Halacha is you can’t sit next to women on a bus, unless it’s unavoidable. You can avoid sitting next to them if they move and sit in the back of the bus.
Do you really don’t understand this or you just feel to pick and choose what Halacha to listen to & what not to?
Sam2 -“Health: A Talmid of Rav Kook’s can hold like him, even against the Rov.”
So are there any posters here that learnt by him? C’mon gimme a break!
Sam -the only type of doc that will give you info on alternative medicine -is one who practices alternative medicine.
So what do you mean by -“But Not without guidance of a doctor.”?
Ctrl Alt Del -See that? -Jews have more that binds them together than that which breaks them apart.
DY -“Do you really expect anybody to take your words seriously?
No, but at least take the words of the Mishna Berurah seriously.
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Maybe your potatoes, beans and barley are edible raw?”
Please, I really shouldn’t have to explain this to you, but the MB says the Mechaber doesn’t hold of this Taam. But I can even say Pshat acc. to those that do. Because who is doing the cooking? The goy is. In my case it’s the Jew. I think you can figure out the rest. If not, post this and I’ll go into the basic details of Muktzah.
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Oh? I really like when you write in Hebrew and your point is????
Like I said there is no Tzorech Godol here and that’s why they are Goizer whether the Goy cooked it for you or he cooked it for himself. They don’t want you getting around the Melechas Shabbos of cooking. But this Sevara doesn’t apply in my case.
“Yup, you are right -that’s exactly what I hold; NOT!
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I love the Hebrew again. Look up -I said “NOT!”
“Who said it wasn’t secured in the outlet? Or you thought you plugged it in, but you didn’t?
You.”
Let me explain -Secured means I put it in tightly. Where I said it was Mutter was either it wasn’t plugged in at all or s/o tripped over it and pulled it out. This is an Oiness. The only case I could see that would be similar to 253 – would be if s/o put the plug in very loosely and it fell out.
“Are you sponsoring?”
Why don’t you go to a Yeshiva or neighbor and try and borrow one? I’m not in the business of getting people Seforim. I don’t have too many myself.
“No answer there. If you think there was, please quote or link to the post.”
Here it is again from two pages ago –
“Health, You can’t extrapolate oneg Shabbos (cholent) from kavod habrios.”
I didn’t. You didn’t read my whole post:
“But he says/brings many cases of Ameira L’acum that he is Matir in situations of Tzorech Godol. Check it out!”
“I think it’s there also, but I’m like you -I don’t want to go searching for it.
The difference is, you claim you saw it there.”
I never said I saw it there. The PHS brings it down. What he says over there I don’t really know. He just says look up the Baer Moshe -Kuntrus Electric.
“I was; I’ll repeat:
The R’ma in 328 allows bishul al y’dei aku”m for a child who has no other food, because a child has a din of a choleh. If the R’ma were mattir a d’oraiso for the mitzvah of oneg Shabbos, this would be true even for a healthy adult.”
Tzorech Shabbos is Not Tzorech Godol!
“Look it up. My point is that 253 is the same “tzorech gadol” you had.”
Wrong again! 253 is a case of Peshiah.
“At least you’re Modeh B’miksas!
???”
That you argue semantics!
“How many times are you going to say that?”
As long as it takes -as long as it takes.
hello99 -Thank you, except for some of it -where we disagree.
Sam2 -“Health: That’s the way that sectarians like the Essenes viewed Judaism. We hold of Eilu V’eilu Divrei Elokim Chayim. So long as someone is Oved Hashem B’chol Kocho and does what he thinks is what Hashem wants through his Mesorah and his understanding of Torah Sheba’al Peh then HKBH views it as if he did everything right, regardless of what will be Paskened in Yemos Hamashiach.”
I’m actually surprised at you for such a comment. We don’t always say Eilu V’eilu etc. and you know it! Maybe R. Kook himself can say that about why he held the way he held, but noone else! Anybody following his Shitta is going against the Rov and you can’t give an excuse -I listened to the Miyut because of Eilu V’eilu etc.!
DY -“Read the M”B; someone who pakens shailos by himself surely can read and understand a M”B.”
Oh, I read it and he is explaining why it’s Ossur to eat a Goy’s food even if he cooked it for himself. I was wondering what this had to do with Ameira L’acum by Tzorech Godol. I guess nothing – that’s why you answered the way you did. Pulling rabbits out of hats is not going to Prove me wrong.
“I did not follow the Yoshon discussion, but I’m not sure if you’re making a basic mistake in assuming Yoshon was assered by Chaza”l; it is in fact, d’oraiso.”
Yup, you are right -that’s exactly what I hold; NOT!
Funny you didn’t read my posts over there, but you are telling me what I hold! Are you a Novi or something? Bezman Shchorov Bais Hamikdash -Nitnoh Nevious etc.
“They did set it up to last; occasionally (as the Darchei Moshe says), it would go out.”
It has to be set up that Al Pi Teva it will always last, not sometimes the fire will go out or sometimes the gas will go out. This is putting yourself into a Matzif of Tzorech Godol -which Chazal would never Matir! Such a simple concept, but either you aren’t grasping it or you don’t want to grasp it.
“You should have plugged it in and made sure the plug was secure. Big peshia! (I’m arguing l’shitoscha; your whole point is irrelevant and invented.)”
Who said it wasn’t secured in the outlet? Or you thought you plugged it in, but you didn’t?
“I don’t have access to that sefer,”
That’s not my problem. I’m sure you could order it.
“and even so, kavod habrios is bigger than your cholent; if you disagree, you’ll need to bring a raya”
We actually had this discussion on the previous page. And I answered you over there. Check it out!
“You also claimed that he addresses it in B’er Moshe, which I do have access to, but for some reason you have not been able to provide that source.”
I think it’s there also, but I’m like you -I don’t want to go searching for it. I already see he is Matir in the PHS!
“I have brought several; even if you erroneously think there’s a difference between your case and 253, you need to explain the R’ma in 328.”
Look not one of your so-called “Rayos” is even remotely Oisgehalten. As far as 328, you gotta be a little specific on what your Raya is!
“You should also check out Aruch Hashulchan 34 – 36, who learns the R’ma distiction between a food which had cooled and one still warm, as applying to kavod Shabbos, and a mitzvah which would be muttar in a case of shvus d’shvus, but NOT a d’oraiso.”
Now which case are you talking about – the case of Tzorech Godol or 253?
“Hello99 and I are mostly arguing semantics (the term tzorech gadol vs. tzorech Shabbos), and whether one, in theory one would have to protest.”
At least you’re Modeh B’miksas!
“We agree, however, that what you did was clearly assur according to all shittos we follow (and I think even according to the shittos we don’t follow).”
What’s the Chiddush here? This I know from the beginning that you both disagree -I’m still waiting for a Raya! Just because you both say you’re right -doesn’t make you right -only in your minds!
DY – “That being the case, besides for the issurim of amira l’aku”m and bishul aku”m, I think there’s a third issur of muktzeh (unless in your 150 pages of mareh m’komos on muktzeh someone holds that if you thought food was cooked, it’s not muktzeh even though it was actually raw). Only the meat might not be a problem (I think some contemporary poskim hold raw meat is muktzeh because it’s no longer common to eat raw meat).”
Even though this post isn’t addressed to me -I had to comment.
Your posts are getting funnier and funnier. Now Muktzeh and soon you will telling me what I did was Chillul Shabbos D’oraysa.
Do you really expect anybody to take your words seriously?
Did you ever learn the Halachos of Muktzeh?
I won’t even answer this because it’s too amusing.
Avi K – “Health, even their proponents call these buses “mehadrin”. This means more than what the Halacha requires.”
A Kaska Oif Ah Meisah!
The Halacha is – It depends on the situation -if it’s easily avoidable -you can’t sit next to a woman. If it’s unavoidable -then you can. Don’t make blanket Heterim!