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cherrybim – So give them yours!
GAW & yichusdik –
That’s your mistake -I wasn’t using him to prove anything. This wasn’t the point of his article. I was using him to prove that e/o knows what he posted. The reason you two don’t is because either you don’t want to know the truth or you’re too lazy to do the research. I’m related to a former Kiruv worker at that time and he said the same thing many times, as above, and that’s why they started these Kiruv orgs.!
I’m just not going to actually do the research for you because you two never concede -you two are too Noigeah B’dovor, so why should I waste my time proving it to you?
Denial isn’t just the name of a river in Egypt! People who want to know the truth can easily find out that the Israeli Jewish Agency Shmaded up many Jews; esp. the ones that came from arab lands during that time!
SAM2 -“Health: Niddah isn’t bound by time. Zman Grama implies a set time, meaning a certain day or time of day. Niddah isn’t influenced by that. Rav Schachter has a whole Shiur on this. If I get bored sometime soon maybe I’ll try and find it on YUTorah for you. And like I said at the end, the Chiyuv would be there even when she’s a Niddah, there is just a separate Issur preventing it. That’s not considered Z’man G’rama.”
I could argue with both your Sevaros. But let’s say you’re correct -you could still say this is the Taam Hakra and it isn’t a Chok because the Torah only gave them Mitzvos that apply always.
gavra_at_work –
“?? ??,? ???? ??? ??? ???? ??? ?’ ????? ???? ?’ ????? ??’ ????? ??? ??? (?????? ?) ????? ?? ???? ?????? ??? ???? ???? ???? ??? ???? ????”
I actually was Mechaven to this and was going to post it and I didn’t recall the Gemoroh, but maybe it was buried in my subcon.
cherrybim -“The woman, however, is not m’chuyiv in procreating so there is no obligation of marriage; but she has the option of kiddushin if she wants children and companionship”
Wrong again. She has an obligation to get married!
Repeating the same line is just repeatedly arguing with S’A!
DaasYochid -“And as I wrote -Shvus D’shvus would be Mutter since it’s L’zorech Mitzva (Shabbos).
Not if it was an extra tavshil.”
It’s extra for the day, not for the meal!
“No, he might have a Chulent for one day meal and not for the second (Shalosh Seudas).
You have a good imagination, inventing a minhag and tzorech to have cholent for seudah shlishis.”
Not as good as yours – that you equate Mitzva Gemura and Tzorech Mitzva!
Don’t tell me that you believe that you don’t get a Mitzva for eating Chamin during Shalosh Seudas?
“Prove it.
253.”
Noone, but you, learns up 253 as a Mitzva Gemura!
GAW -“Prove it.”
yichusdik -Your posts are long-winded, but as long as they are -there isn’t a shred of truth in them.
You think you can rewrite history to defend Kofrim?
Anybody involved with Kiruv during the ’50’s will tell you that Tzionim did whatever they could to Shmad up Frum Jews!
Just one example of many:
From Mishpacha mag -J. Rosenblum writes -“No one would wish a return to the circumstances of the rescue work of the 1940s or to the situaton of the 1950s in Israel, when young Peylim activists spirited children from Arab lands out of Jewish Agency absorption camps, where they were being stripped of their Jewish identity.”
Unfortunately you & others aren’t interested in the truth!
Sam2 -“Health: Women are Pattur because it’s a G’zeiras Hakasuv. Yevamos 62b I think.”
I was just saying a Pshat in the Din -so it shouldn’t be a Chok!
I wasn’t sure if you could apply her reason to why they aren’t Mechuyav in Pru OOrevu. You definitely can’t for the other reasons of their Chiyuv.
“Also, not being allowed to be together Mid’rabbanan on Yom Kippur, Tishah B’av, etc. does not make something a Z’man G’rama.”
Whose talking about D’rabbonon? -Nidda is a D’oraysa!
“And even if there are times when it’s Assur to be together, the Mitzvah of P’ru Ur’vu would still be there, only that you are not allowed to perform it at that time.”
So during the Zman of Nidda you can’t do the Mitzva. Prove that this isn’t considered a Zman Gromoh!
Sam2 – And you didn’t answer my question!
“And did they agree with you or hold you are wrong?”
DY -“As I wrote, if there was, even a shvus d’shvus would be assur.”
And as I wrote -Shvus D’shvus would be Mutter since it’s L’zorech Mitzva (Shabbos).
“It’s referring to the Shabbos morning/afternoon meal (second seudah of Shabbos).”
No, he might have a Chulent for one day meal and not for the second (Shalosh Seudas). Reheating would be Mutter by Shvus D’shvus and this is the case of 253. Prove that the case is like you. You saying it is -doesn’t make it so!
“Whatever you call not having a cholent, the R’ma is not being mattir amira l’akum for it (on a d’oraiso).”
Prove it.
besalel -“let hashem get revenge for you.”
That’s exactly what I meant and I get to see it. I wouldn’t take the law into my own hands -then I would get punished by the Goyishe Medina. Btw, one of the parties Hashem has already taken revenge. Even though the person was old, he/she was in very good health and all of a sudden he/she is gone.
oomis1105 -“The mitzvah of pru urvu is incumbent on MEN, not women,”
This is true, but the Halacha is women have to get (are Mechuyav to get) married for other reasons.
“because pregnancy and childbirth are ALWAYS a sakana (hence the making of birchas hagomeil after childbirth), and you cannot force a woman to put her life in jeopardy for the sake of a mitzvah. Obviously the halacha teaches us that skanos nefashos is of prime concern, even when it comes to mitzvos that are clear directives, much less those that are not.”
While this is a nice Shtickle Torah -I’m sure it’s not accurate because we hold there is a Chiyuv to get married -so I doubt this “Sakana” is enough to stop the Chiyuv of getting married for women, but you might say it’s enough to stop the Chiyuv of Pru OOrevu.
Without me doing any research into it – I’d say maybe they aren’t Mechuyav in Pru OOrevu because it’s a Mitzva Shehazman Gromoh. There are times when it’s Ossur to be together.
Sam2 -“PBA: I have spoken personally to many leading Poskim about this.”
And did they agree with you or hold you are wrong?
cherrybim -“But that’s a long way from,”S’A Paskens there is a Chiyuv!”.”
Wrong; that is Poshut Pshat in the Rema. And only the Baer Haytiv changes this Pshat, noone else!
yichusdik – E/o knows that the Zionists took scores and scores of Yemenites and their kids and Shmaded them up, whether they kidnapped them or not. Do you deny this?
greatest -For men. For girls it’s 12.
DaasYochid -“There’s no difference. If you have another cholent, it’s not any sort of mitzvah, it would be like the “peiros” which is not muttar even with a double shvus. If you don’t have another cholent (or, more accurately, no other “tavshil cham”, then it is a “mitzvah gemurah”.”
Again you make assumptions and ask questions based on them. Who told you there wasn’t another Dovor Cham in 253, maybe there is, but you’re eating them at different meals? And your statement -“it’s not any sort of mitzvah, it would be like the “peiros” which is not muttar even with a double shvus.” would not apply because it’s Oneg Shabbos on every meal. You keep equating “Mitzva Gemura” with “Dovor Mitzva”, but you haven’t brought a shred of proof to this.
Common sense dictates there is a difference between Mitzva Gemura and/or Tzorech Godol and L’tzorech Mitzva. This is where me and hello99 agree.
RK -“Question: Is a doctor allowed to tell someone straight out that they have been diagnosed with cancer and have a short time to live? Would you want to know if there was no reasonable hope?”
This is one of the ethical questions that practioners deal with -there is no -yes or no answer. It depends on the situation. Some people should be told and others shouldn’t.
more – A Langa Drosha and what’s the point?
“what was the first thing that sparked that turning point on her part? nothing just happens overnight..”
Too long ago to remember.
“What compelled her most to that path? Prehaps this is a particular phase she is going through in her life, and she will come out of it..”
Perhaps, but I doubt it.
“Why don’t you get a REAL competant rav to talk to her…Sometimes when pple don’t have a strong enough foundation in their youth it causes them the instability later on in life, she may need a good rav to guide her through the ropes and come to understand the meaning of life..”
Not my responsibility right now.
“She can overcome this obstacle from the past and present and you two can reunite. if you can show Your real love and real support, You will both come out of this far more stronger than you have ever been before.”
A very, very unlikely scenario, but there is nothing wrong with wishful thinking.
“that’s not going to help you or anyone else, once you have taken revenge you will inevitably become more bitter than you have ever been before, and will only hurt yourself.”
Actually it will help a lot. And I’ll be much less bitter when I see these Reshayim destroyed.
“I’m not saying you are not a good person, but I am saying that everyone has flaws, within those 15 years of you two being together, did she ever point out any particular flaw that bothered her -the best way to take ‘revenge’ would be to work on whatever character flaws you’ve got, & prove to YOURSELF that you don’t have them within you and that these hooligans that steped between the two of you ARE wrong!”
First of all, I do have these flaws, but so what? Do you really think noone has flaws? And I’m not interested in proving to these people anything -I just want revenge on them. If you think people are perfect -think again and wake up to the real world. Oh I know there are lots that think they are better than the next guy, but in reality they are worse because they don’t even begin to see what is wrong with themselves. So these Reshayim who can only see the Shlect in people need to be punished and I’d like to see it -speedily & in my day!
“with her, you havn’t given the entire picture, but from what you have said, it seems to be that the instability in her youth caused the strugle later on in life that compelled her to stray, in more ways than one. She needs guidance, support, and Answers! That turning point, I’m guessing was based on very deep emotion and not logic. She needs someone to talk a strong dose of logic to those emotions, and get them to combine themselves within her and work together.”
She does need all these things, but it’s very unlikely she will ever get them. And actually she needed all these BEFORE she went into a marriage. Trust me, I tried for years while we were married to get her what she needed, but these Reshayim interfered and didn’t let me help her.
Josh31 -So you still didn’t answer my point -people like Meretz are Yad Hashem and not Maaseh Soton, right????
“Maybe if they had been provided vocational training before they turned away from Torah observance they would still be Torah observant.
Denying a Jew vocational training is SHMAD.”
Oh because the Yeshivos don’t offer it -so they are Shmading e/o? Where did they ever deny s/o from going to school? Ya know when I was ready to look for Parnassa -I applied and got into technical school and then college. What prevents any Frum person from doing the same? This logic is totally Krum! This must be the same logic that the Tzionim are using, but they aren’t Masseh Soton, they are the Yad Hashem. Right, whatever you say!
DY -“Not really, he just means as opposed to other types of food for Shabbos which are not necessarily considered a mitzvah.”
Oh, you mean like in 253? If that’s what Mokom Mitzva (Tzorech Shabbos) means you have no Kasha in the first place. 253 is just Mokom Mitzva while everywhere else is Mitzva Gemura. Either way you backed yourself in a corner.
“So you’re conceding that not having cholent is not a tzorech gadol, only a d’var mitzvah, and that it’s therefore assur even according to the R’ma?”
Even if you don’t think my case is a total Oiness, like I explained above, I just explained acc. to you, not having a Cholent would be Tzorech Mitzva Gemura, not like the first part of the Rema in 276 & not like 253 where it is only L’tzorech Mitzva (Shabbos)!
147 -“Are you Health a Kohen?”
Nope and neither am I close to 147 years old! (:p
more -“do you still love her? Is there anyway of making amends and getting married again…-I know pple who have gotten remarried with each other, and the relationship was much stronger than it had been the first time round.. Is there any hope for this. maybe if these pple are crazy enough to convince her in regards to her personal life maybe someone can talk to her now, if it will benifit both of you. It sounds like you are really strong on the issue, when there’s a will theres a way..-if there’s no anger and resentment on both ends, maybe theres nothing wrong with trying each other out for a second round.. pple change. maybe she has too??”
Ya know Mr. More -I used to do a lot of wishful thinking, but after a few years it basically fades. She is OTD and took most of the kids with her. Anybody can do Teshuva and perhaps she will, but it doesn’t look very promising. I personally hope she will, not necessarily for my sake, even if we don’t get remarried, but for the kids sake.
Think first -“Health- revenge will eat you up alive,”
No it won’t -V’shame Reshaim Yirkav!
“if you accept that it was Hashems will you’ll feel mucher better about it.”
I do accept it and I still want revenge!
“I could too blame many people for withholding information from me beforehand which would have prevented the our marriage, and someone who guided me incorectly during the engagement when I should of broke it off. However I realize that it was Hashems will thay we were to be married for some time and that’s what happended. It may seem that if so and so didn’t do this and this things would be different but Hashem has his ways of orchastrating his will. Be well.”
Oh the same thing happenned to me, but the Shaddchan I’m still friendly with -they meant well. Lies happen with almost every Shidduch. These aren’t the ones I want revenge on. I want revenge on the people who from basically day one poisoned my wife against me and didn’t stop until 15+ years later when they were successful.
Josh31 – So I guess Meretz’s law that they want to pass to help out Jews who turn away from Yiddishkeit is “the Hand of G-d, not some dark force”. It must be my “intense hatred of Zionism has blinded” me and therefore I think this is a Maaseh Soton!
hello99 -“DY: “See M”B in 325:60 who equates “d’var mitzvah gemurah” (including hot food) with tzorech gadol”
Isn’t it obvious that the unusual term “d’var mitzvah gemurah” is different than “makom mitzva”???”
I was going to answer him the same way and I also was going to say (without this obvious Chiluk) in the M’B he says “OH”, since when does “OH” -“either” equate two things? It could be Mutter in a case of Tzorech Godol and it could be Mutter even in a case of Tzorech Mitzva.
And I went back and checked S’A 253 and I didn’t find once the Loshon, even in the Nosai Keilim, of Tzorech Godol, just Tzorech Mitzva (Shabbos).
This would make sense acc. to the Rema in 276 #2 where he first says Ameira L’acum is Mutter even by a Melacha Gemura B’mokom Mitzva and then says be Machmir unless it’s a case of Tzorech Godol. You see clearly he differentiated between the two!
cinderella -“I get that Health, but why is it considered so wrong to lie? If it doesn’t harm anyone, why can’t you?”
Obviously you don’t get what I’m saying. Let’s say a friend asks you what your living room has in it? And you answer a beautiful leather couch. Now this didn’t harm your friend, but you manipulated her. I just posted what is wrong with manipulating others!
But you are allowed to lie for Sholom.
Nechomah – “I don’t think there is anything such as a “hypoallergenic” formula.”
Absolutely false.
“Some kids are allergic to milk products and proteins, so you might try avoiding the dairy,”
The reason they have soy based formulas -now it’s called Enfamil sensitive – is for kids who are lactose intolerant, not for food allergies.
From About.com:
“Overview:
Hypoallergenic infant formulas are used to help prevent and treat allergic diseases in babies and, occasionally, in children. They are usually derived from cow’s milk, but because of the way their proteins have been broken down, they are well-tolerated by most infants.
Using Hypoallergenic Formulas:
Hypoallergenic formulas are commonly recommended in three situations: for babies born into highly atopic families (those with a high number of allergic conditions like asthma, eczema, hay fever, or food allergies) who won’t be breastfed or who need a supplementary formula; for babies who are allergic to or intolerant of proteins in formula or breast milk; or for nutrition in people with eosinophilic esophagitis who are allergic to a great many foods.
Types of Hypoallergenic Formulas:
Hypoallergenic formulas come in three main varieties: partially hydrolyzed, extensively hydrolyzed, and free amino acid-based. Hydrolyzed formulas have had the larger protein chains broken down into shorter, easy-to-digest proteins, while free amino acid-based formulas do not include protein chains at all but rather contain all the basic amino acids. Partially hydrolyzed formulas differ from extensively hydrolyzed formulas in that their protein chains can be longer. Alimentum, Nutramigen, and Pregestimil are among brands of hydrolyzed formulas, while Neocate, Elecare, and Nutramigen AA are amino acid formulas.”
yoyo56 -cinderella-
The Torah says Everybody lies. It’s in Hallel. Now why is there such a big desire to lie? Simple because this is one of the easiest forms of manipulation. The other person wants you to think or do something that you wouldn’t have done without their lie(s)! Now why do people want to manipulate? This answer isn’t simple, but I’ll give a simple answer anyway. Because it feeds their Gaiva to control or be superior to others.
hello99 -“A general rule in learning my Rebbeim taught me way back when is: when you have a problem based on a Hanacha, throw out the Hanacha!!!”
I agree. If you have to change Poshut Pshat in the Hagohos Maimonius or erase it -it’s better to throw out the Hanacha.
And the Hanacha is – Only Vaday Yoshon is Mutter!
bpt – While I agree that there is a big difference between no kids and one or two kids -I disagree that they aren’t going through any Tzaar. E/o’s Tefillos should be answered for what they feel in their life is lacking.
As a side note -I once heard about s/o who said after she stopped having kids that she feels like an Akarah. This person has 14 kids. I don’t understand how s/o could make such a comment!
jewishness – There are ways to get around paying for Dinei Torah. If it’s a question like you want money out of s/o -you can ask a Poisek in your town who deals with Money questions or you can ask your own Rov. It’s better to ask the former because let’s say you’re right -it’s unlikely the other guy will concede because of what your Rov says. On the other hand if you ask a top guy in your town (you won’t be able to say the name of the other guy to him) and if he says you’re right -you might be able to convince your adversary that he should pay up and save the Tzar of going to a Din Torah. And if you ask and the Rabbonim say you’re wrong -you just saved yourself the cost of a Din Torah.
Just a note – sometimes you could be 100% right acc. to Din, but you might not win in a Din Torah, either because not all Botay Dinim are honest and even if the Bais Din you get is honest -they might find a loophole that noone could have dreamed about and you lose. This happens all the time in Bottay Din and in Goyishe courts. There is a reason that they always recommend trying to come to some agreement or Hapsharah first.
The Great Bear of Creedmoor -What about 800 kilobears?
Bored214 – Be more specific. What’s the name of the formula?
Of course certain babies can’t tolerate even certain types of hypo-allergenic formula -that’s why they make more than one.
This is a no brainer.
If you want more info -a little background and name of formula the kid is on.
HolyMoe -“It is no muitzva for a girl to get married. It’s only a mitzva for the boy.”
Actually it’s a Chiyuv for both, not just a Mitzva!
From Shulchan Aruch.
I don’t need support – I need revenge! Oh and btw, not on my ex -I don’t hate her. On all the people who caused the divorce -I want revenge.
CA -“If the passenger said “no I’m not” and the driver started driving anyway then its for sure the driver’s fault for being posheia”
That’s exactly what I’m saying, but only in this case is the driver Chaiyuv.
If the driver tells e/o to buckle up and they don’t listen, unless the driver knows that they didn’t listen -then they are Mechuyav to pay, not the driver; if they are Gedolim, not Ketanim.
cherrybim -“No, I didn’t.”
Of course you didn’t. Whatever you say. At least you believe You are always right.
SL or is Always here? -Let’s say I’m not a doctor -so what? That doesn’t answer the question. She could go to s/o who will give her a script for these drugs instead of taking steroids. And you don’t need a doc to take Benadryl, it’s OTC. Or are you saying you must blindly follow your doctor and take whatever they say, even if it’s possibly dangerous, even if the pt. hasn’t tried much safer medications?
Hermione -“so she put me on a low dose – 40 for 5 days but she said she doubts that will do the job so I will probably land up on another 20 for five days…”
It’s funny that you’re willing to take steroids, but not take the drugs I suggested. Is it because the “Top” doctor told you to take them? If you think she’s so great -why come here seeking for help -you’re being “helped” by her?
Incompetence is Not only a Machla by men!
cherrybim -“It is not a halacha for a Jewish woman to marry. At best, it is an eitza tova, good advice.”
Look I just posted that noone holds of the Baer Haytiv and you go and say we hold like him. No, we Pasken L’halacha that a woman has a Chiyuv to get married. We don’t Pasken like a Daas Yochid!
I gave you the Daas Yochid above and now you turn it around and say we Pasken like him. Sorry we don’t, no matter what you say!
“Health – “You argue on almost all my posts”
“No, I don’t.”
Of course you do -you just argued on me now!
frumnotyeshivish – For this I don’t need any study -I’ve seen this with my own eyes!
Avi K – And whom was Shmook?
BTGuy -“I am surprised that you purport to be in the health care business and seem to be oblivious that there are respected physicians and clinics and studies that both support standardized medicine and pharmaceuticals, and those equally respected who condemn them.
You really cannot accept that fact??”
You didn’t answer the question!!!!
“Name one study that says -Not to vaccinate?”
PBA – Actually the original research was independent.
cherrybim -“but of course, it was no where to be found. So where is the source in the Shulchan Aruch as you claimed?”
Look I’m not your Rebbe. You argue on almost all my posts -why don’t you ask your Rabbi(s)?
But just so you don’t think I’m lying -here it is:
Even Hazer -Simon 1 Halacha 13.
And noone agrees with the Baer Haytive’s Pshat.
GAW – And I got it from Gedolim who said the story is True!
frumnotyeshivish -“Health – It is an undisputed fact that smokers have a higher incidence of heart disease. The question is A – How much higher, and B – How much of that is from the act of smoking and not an underlying cause of both. Either way, to make a statement that “x” amount of people die from “smoking-related” diseases when the majority of those are not smokers, is technically true but very tricky.”
Whether you have a point or not is irrevelant. The fact is smoking alone causes heart disease. So stop with the “SMOKEscreen” and admit to the facts. People should not smoke because it’s dangerous to their health! One of the dangers is Heart disease which can be caused just from Smoking alone!
coffee addict -“Health,anyway the driver started driving he wasn’t gorem the driver driving”
He’s not Mechuyav to check. If the guy says -“No, I’m not.” -then the he would be Putter. If he didn’t say anything after the driver said -“Put on seatbelts” -then he is Chaiyuv, not the driver. Adults have to take responsibilty for their own actions. Goyim don’t believe in this concept -that’s why they ticket the driver. The Goyishe laws are full of this Naarishkeit -that they pass the buck. The most blatant example is the winning of a lawsuit because the person got burnt because they didn’t know coffee was hot.
Avi K -“Really, anybody who is familiar with Sefer Chafetz Chaim 7:4 and 8:6 knows that the Chafetz Chaim could not possibly have made such a statement. Certainly not on the strength of something written in a newspaper. Or he meant that he did not believe that the quote was accurate (Kook shmook – Rav Kook did not say exactly what was quoted).”
I don’t know what the son-in-law was refering to. Perhaps s/o was Mevazeh R. Kook and he was making a Mechoh, not the Chofetz Chaim’s story?
The story from the Chofetz Chaim saying “Kook, Shmook, Book, is true; whether you and others are in denial or Not!