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☕️coffee addictParticipantoomis, may i counter that i wouldn’t be suprised if the women had a hand in the men’s bittul torah (or really lack of kavod torah), if the women were mechashev it the men would follow ☕️coffee addictParticipantwellinformedyid, there is a well known halacha called mechitzos in a shul. The reason being is because of the sensitivities of the people davening, because Halacha knows that men will get distracted if they are around women. I wouldn’t be suprised that the reason there is no halacha about women congregating the streets is because they didn’t if they did then there would be one, taking into account mens sensitivities. ☕️coffee addictParticipantexactly smile66 (chachmas eesha bansah baysah) you should have this bracha ☕️coffee addictParticipantwell informed yid, you bring up a good point that he has this problem but you realize tanaim and amoraim had this taavah too case 1) the grandson of choni hamagel case 2,3,4) (sorry i’m horrible at remembering names or where it is in the gemara)when the satan comes dressed as a woman either they would’ve been nichshol not for their torah or one bored his eyes out definitely the solution isn’t that he shouldn’t go outside b/c he has to (daven, learn etc.) the answer to women being untzniusdik (out in the open) shouldn’t be that it’s your fault for loking at them ☕️coffee addictParticipantSJSinNYC correct, but a chatzer was an enclosed area unlike a front yard ☕️coffee addictParticipantsjsinnyc, the gemara says Kol kvodah bas melech PENIMAH that means inside the house as opposed to outside the house (including chatzer) In my community actually, there is a weekly shiur that the wives go to and they congregate and shmuz over there, i think it’s the best idea ☕️coffee addictParticipantthe prophecies im talking about are like something from the talmidim of the talmidim of the gra that moshiach is supposed to come before this past rosh chodesh av, or that the thing with birchas hachama being rosh chodesh nisan only happened 3 times once by yetzias mitzraim (not true btw), there are countless others and if you want i can say them too. I hear what your saying kapusta ☕️coffee addictParticipantoomis, i’ve realized men and women have different definitions for communication. men communicate to give information women communicate because they need to talk ☕️coffee addictParticipantHaqer, why couldn’t they ask their uncle aries, that’s a good idea but what yb613 is talking about is girls congregating in the streets I totally agree they should congregate at someone’s house (preferrably one that has no yeshiva aged boys) ☕️coffee addictParticipantkasha, just on the 24th line it’s interesting to note that bnos tzelofchad went to beis din and their is a whole perek on this ☕️coffee addictParticipantYechezkel, it for sure depends how they socialize ☕️coffee addictParticipantI know i’m going to be pounced on but im going to say it anyway Asara kavim sicha yordim l’olam tisha natal nashim (ten measures of speech came down to the world. women took 9 women need to talk, just like fish need to swim ☕️coffee addictParticipantmbachur: A “frum” person cant go to the beach by definition. (Unless its some unknown separate gender beach where it is completely invisible AND inaccessible to the opposite gender.) exactly!!! a person who portrays himself as frum in NY but in FL away from everyone else he goes to the beach (hence frum in quotations) ☕️coffee addictParticipanti just heard it means someone who is “frum” but goes to the beach ☕️coffee addictParticipantmissme how do you know maybe it was dressed up and you couldn’t see it’s feet June 23, 2010 4:18 pm at 4:18 pm in reply to: Should Some People Be Considered "Unmarriable"? #687240☕️coffee addictParticipantI think they should be tested, and then they can marry other people that are like that. ☕️coffee addictParticipantI’ve heard it’s a lubavitcher minhag. I don’t follow it ☕️coffee addictParticipantI think its perfectly fine. A lot of times it’s in the kallah’s city, so technically biyah reshonah is supposed to be in his rishus and her parent’s house doesn’t qualify (this is also true by his parents) and they’re planning on living somewhere else so i think it’s fine. ☕️coffee addictParticipantI like Dr. Pepper’s idea LOL ☕️coffee addictParticipantI agree it took a while (about a few seconds) to get used to but i like the order ☕️coffee addictParticipantthe roman noblelady preceded you! she had 1,000 man slaves and 1,000 female slaves and said this one should marry that one and everybody got all bruised so I don’t think it will work sorry November 10, 2009 6:25 pm at 6:25 pm in reply to: Anyone Else Worried About Today’s Frum Music? #793064☕️coffee addictParticipantI think it’s fine, being a BT I was used to goyishe music and believe me as long as the tune isn’t from a goyishe song I’m happy with it b/c really it’s mostly the words. 
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