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I still don’t see how going first and holding open a door any different than holding a door while she goes first
It’s just as menchlich to do it that way
Lf,
Maybe it was due to your bracha!
I have some people that need brachos what’s your availability?
Scratch that,
Google is my friend
Does abie rotenberg sing some of the songs (we’re just listening to them on the way home from vacation)
Why doesn’t this mod have a number
They are rules that need to be followed, if they are followed I don’t see why they wouldn’t allow it
You could not put glue on their seats
Or not give them dog food while telling them it’s snacks
Or you could not tell them that you have a surprise for them blind fold them and drive them far away and let them out go back on the car until they realize they are lost. :-]>
She has identity problems and wants to be called mr mehadrin
No, not dominate, just sprinkle for the uninformed
Lilmod,
The mods should answer that question they’re the ones that make subtitles
Joseph, look at all the subtitles of previous posters
Wow!
I was just reading the posts from years past
Maybe Joe should ask for mechila for having so many screen names
Lilmod,
It turns them into zechuyos or shgagos (so they still happened)
It’s better than moderators because you can’t take away actions, if you learn from your mistakes you grow from it and it can make you a better person
Lilmod,
I have no idea. I didn’t have any arguments that I know of.
Then what was this about?
Syag – I have decided that from now on, I am bli neder not responding to any of your attacks against me personally. I don’t know why you persist in attacking me. I have tried discussing your criticisms against me politely, but you insist on ignoring me, so I am ignoring your criticisms that are against ME from now on. I really do not like arguing with people. I would have been happy to have a polite discussion with you, but you have continually refused to do so.
When people feel liked they’re being attacked it’s usually from an argument/ disagreement
29,
If it took place it should’ve occurred (even though it shouldn’t have)
There were two mods responding
Ok,
This is weird!
I’m trying to find the argument that you had and I can’t find it, was there another one besides barryLS1 caution, because all the other threads where you two posted (where I saw) you weren’t arguing with each other, is it because she called you out on hearin L”h?
I’m not trying to start up anything I’m looking for shalom
That unfortunate exchange was part of a conversation which never should have taken place in the first place, and has since been deleted.
Coffee is correct, he cannot find it because i did not occur – 29
I’m sorry I hurt you Lilmod, it’s a lot harder to realize that posters get hurt where you can’t see their facial expressions and cannot tell how sensitive the poster is
One source of national debt is federal budget deficits year after year. Do you know the name of the last president who ran a budget surplus, rather than a deficit? (Hint: Bill
).huju,
I googled this claim and it brought me to polidiotic and your claim is false
everyone is different
give him/her something they will appreciate
Sparkly,
What prompted the question
What I want to know is what prompted this question
Lilmod,
You’re right,
And maybe the reason you never saw this is because of the heter
Lilmod,
You said
I didn’t listen to the shiur on the chabad.org website, but from the quote, it doesn’t sound like it was talking about ladies walking in front of men – it was talking about the general concept of “ladies first”.
So I brought that to show ladies first means walk in front from the inverse relationship n the Torah
Additionally I’m thinking that the reason for the heater is so that people shouldn’t get all upset if a woman is walking in front of him into a bus and cause a scene (something common in Israel)
Lilmod,
Some men are just as sensitive as women (keep that in mind too)
Additionally since you are dating, realize guys don’t like being shlugged up during a conversation with a woman (dating or in marriage)
The chabad.org website brought
Up until that point, the rule was “men first.” Adam, as we all know, was created before Eve. Noah and his sons entered the ark first, followed by their wives — at least that’s the order they’re listed in Genesis 7:13 (a “sinking ship” situation in the reverse, if you will). When Jacob traveled with his family, the males rode up front and the womenfolk behind them (Genesis 31:17) while Esau placed the women before the men.
Understanding it as walking, riding behind vi? a vi? in front
Wow Lilmod,
1) I assumed you to be a man! (A little too lomdish)
2) I’m not saying women aren’t lomdish, just more men are so don’t get upset
3) the chabad.org website isn’t reliable because the Gemara which says men shouldn’t walk behind a woman which came at the same time as Torah shebiksav
4)Google ladies first origin, that will come up but a story will also come up about how it all started (too bad I can’t post links)
5) a Google search brought to this cr topic which is very apropos
http://www.theyeshivaworld.com/coffeeroom/topic/walking-behind-a-woman
I have to go now, and it’s very hard to rebut on my phone so until later
Now I remember why I don’t come to this thread
Same with me
Especially long distance dating
Anyways I did research on it (googled the origin) and you would be upset if you found out the real reason for “ladies first”
My only normal first date (all the others were awkward especially since they were in a hotel lobby)
We went to a park and had a picnic, I bought a bunch of bagels and tuna fish, picked her up and walked there we had a great time!
Sparkly,
Listen to the shiur
And this one is free
I’m also wondering would shake a woman’s hand? Personally when I’m in that situation I say “sorry, religious reasons” and they’re cool with that, my last professor who is also a dean of the college that I went to tried shaking my hand and I told her that and she was surprised because other Jewish men have.
Additionally not everything is black and white so you can’t say the Halacha follows the tzitz eliezer etc, because if I try hard enough I could find someone that assurs
Additionally you’re sidestepping the shiur from rabbi orlofsky
I’m sorry I didn’t see that post (or at least the part with the title) not sure why
Joe you’ve been asking the question, what do you think it is?
Joe,
A neshoma is a part of Hashem
Gehennom is the separation of the neshoma from its source (that could manifest itself in different ways)
I never said guys can’t see girls
Sparkly,
Just because you’re around them doesn’t mean you understand them
I suggest you should also listen to rabbi orlofsky’s shiur on platonic relationships
Listen to r Dovid orlofsky’s shiur on platonic relationships